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“AIDS crisis was not just a tragedy, but an appalling behavior on the part of the federal government at the time. In this case, this affects everyone across the country. And not that they shouldn't have been paying attention to AIDS. They absolutely should have, but were you surprised by the lack of interest in dealing with it by the government, the federal government?”
2020-04-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Mayor London Breed · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I think it probably has a lot to do with our history. We are on the West Coast and in particular in San Francisco, you probably remember during the AIDS crisis that hit San Francisco really hard, the public health professionals here in San Francisco led the way. The federal government, and because we've been there before”
2020-04-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Mayor London Breed · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We're here with San Francisco Mayor London Breed. Mayor Breed, one of the things when you did a lot of this early, I know a lot of other municipalities, including the president, didn't want it, didn't talk about it like it was serious. How did you look at that? Because you and others in California and Mayor Governor Newsom were early to this. How do you look at the impact of that? I mean, it's obvious in the numbers that California is doing a lot better.”
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“By that time, they were fine with it. They were fine. They were fine with it. I think they knew it was coming because of everything we were doing before. I mean, we were like, prepare for this, prepare for disruptions in service. Prepare, work at home and companies were already telling people to work at home. Conventions were being canceled. Events were being canceled. Things were changing. And also, I think that people who realize that it was important to stay at home were already doing it for the most part, especially people in vulnerable populations.”
2020-04-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Mayor London Breed · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We should have already done this, but we need to do this now because look at Santa Claus County, it's getting out of control and we don't want that to happen in our cities and our counties. So we need to move faster. And so this is basically what happened and announcement happened on Monday and we move forward.”
2020-04-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Mayor London Breed · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Was a, I remember this on Sunday, I got the call late Sunday that the county health officers had decided that this is what we're going to do and they would announce it the next day. And I basically said, okay, well, I'm going to announce it tomorrow. Like I'm going to announce it tomorrow. They wanted to announce it. And I said, you have to work with the mayors on announcing this because people don't know who the county health officers are and we need to do this as a partner so that people understand that this is your city elected leaders who are held accountable to all of these decisions to implementing all these decisions. And it's our public health professionals who have this strong recommendation. And so I immediately notified all the mayors of the 13 largest cities to tell them this was happening. It moved pretty fast. Some people wanted to hold off and slow down. I said, no, we can't slow down. We need to do this.”
2020-04-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Mayor London Breed · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah. So we were already limiting the events. The schools were shutting down. We asked the vulnerable populations to stay in. We told people to prepare for school closures and to get your medications. And we were already doing a lot of things. And I think the Friday before the Monday that I declared the shelter in place, I had a talk with our Department of Public Health Director, Dr. Grant Coufax, about what was going on and we were looking at charts and looking at data and looking at the challenges. And I remember this clearly where I said, well, why don't we just, we're already pretty much there. Why don't we just do a stay-at-home order? And we talked specifically about what that would look like. And he said, yes, we're headed in that direction. I said, well, we need to head, I basically said that. We need to do that like yesterday. And so then there.”
2020-04-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Mayor London Breed · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Absolutely. So then you moved from the state of emergency to shuttering in place, which was also very early. People were slower at other cities and municipalities to do that. Talk about that. And then I want to get into some of the things you're doing now to mitigate what's happened and why you think you have a flatter curve. So one of the earliest things you did was keeping people in their homes, which was at the time a dramatic Thing to do”
2020-04-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Mayor London Breed · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, actually, I will say that I think in comparison to other mayors, like for example, because again, we're a city and a county and the mayor of Oakland in terms of being, we basically, through the emergency declaration and through my directive, I was able to put a moratorium on residential evictions right away. But unfortunately, the mayor of Oakland had to go through a different process with her city council and it took longer. So what happens when I issue a declaration of emergency, it also has to be, I could do it immediately and start to exercise my authority, but then it also has to be approved by the board of supervisors. So, and then as I make amendments to that order, it has to be approved. So that's really kind of the checks and balances of how this stuff works. And for the most part, it's been supported.”
2020-04-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Mayor London Breed · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You did. Yeah, but I want to get into the homeless separately in a second. But working with this city, the board of supervisors, when you were declaring these things, you have a certain level of power that you don't have as much as other mayors. How did you navigate that?”
2020-04-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Mayor London Breed · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Of course, I lived there. Yeah. So people always find that interesting because we don't have a city council. We have the board of supervisors. They have the legislative branch for the city. I served previously on the board of supervisors. And so based on like, for example, the number of votes that they put together, if it's more than eight, then that basically overrides my veto power as mayor. But for the most part, I've been working very closely with many of them to propose policies that have been very helpful. And so oftentimes when we have disagreements, that's kind of highlighted more than some of the great work we've been able to do together. But this has been really tough for all of us because, again, this is something that not only can impact the people of our city that we represent, it can impact us at any given time. So when doing this work, we have to also be mindful of that. So we have to be.”
2020-04-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Mayor London Breed · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, and so here in San Francisco, we don't have a city council, we have the board of supervisors. I'm sorry, sorry, border supervisor.”
2020-04-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Mayor London Breed · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Talk about working with the city council now. People don't realize in San Francisco they have a lot more power than mayors. You have power as a mayor, but there's a lot of shared power. How do you negotiate that?”
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“Of public health because people's lives were at stake. I mean, all I can think about is what if, you know, because my grandmother raised me and my grandmother, I was thinking, well, what if my grandmother, who was in a very vulnerable population, what if all of a sudden she got sick and I showed up to the hospital and they turned us away because they didn't have enough beds? And that's all I can think about for people who have elderly parents and folks who we were heading down a path of being in that sort of situation. So that was really what was going on in my head as I was making these decisions and I had to do what I felt was the right thing to do.”
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“And so they just thought that this declaration of emergency would kill their business. And unfortunately, that was definitely a reality and something that I had to consider what it would do to tourism, what it would do to our economy as a whole. But I felt like unfortunately what choice do we have? I mean, public health has to be a priority. If you have people dying on a regular basis and scared to come here anyway, what difference is it going to make? So it was really about, unfortunately, making the hard decision to put San Francisco in that place where people will then not come here, where businesses will suffer, where our economy will just be in a really terrible place. And there was definitely pushback. And unfortunately, I felt like I had no choice. I had to do what was in the best interest.”
2020-04-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Mayor London Breed · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, so what's Well, there was definitely, I know small businesses and our hotels and our restaurants and so many people were very concerned. I mean, already Chinatown and Chinese businesses were suffering.”
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“Yeah, 999. Yeah, what's the difference? So what's the political pressure that's brought to bear when you're too early? Because one of the things I remember like everyone's like, oh, we're not in New York. We're not going to do that. You know, that's not where we're going.”
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“Numbers because the fact is, we want to, you know, basically prevent people from connecting to one another in this way. We should not be having any events. We were getting people ready. And so when we first started to talk about reducing them to no more than 1,000 people, people started really paying attention. Already in many of our Chinese community, especially in Chinatown and places, they were already paying attention because they were being hit the hardest, their businesses. There was some real financial challenges there. In other parts of the city, I think when I started to limit the number of events and the large-scale events and we started to talk about what people should be prepared for, I think folks started to really get the message that, wait a minute, this is more serious than we probably thought it was. And so I really wanted to get probably a little bit more aggressive, more so because I just felt like what difference does a thousand person event make because that's the possibility of there being a nine night.”
2020-04-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Mayor London Breed · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, we were the first city to declare a state of emergency, but we also didn't have any cases in San Francisco at the time when we first declared the state of emergency because at that time we knew it was definitely going to hit our city. It wasn't even a question. And we also knew that we weren't able to move as quickly as we needed to get ready for that, to increase our hospital capacity to address what we think could be seriously problematic. So we declared a state of emergency. And then over time, the county health officers started to make recommendations about the number of events, large-scale events and other things that should not be happening. So they brought those things to our attention. So then I started to limit large-scale events. First, we went down to 1,000. Then there were other recommended numbers. And I honestly will tell you, I got frustrated by those recommended numbers because I felt like they were arbitrary. Why are we just recommending?”
2020-04-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Mayor London Breed · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“From everywhere. From down south, from north, from Marin County. So It was the first, from my understanding. We started off February 25th when we declared a state of emergency. Right. Which was the first.”
2020-04-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Mayor London Breed · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, because Oakland, it's people come in from Oakland, from Berkeley. Yes, from everywhere, from down south, from north, from Marin County. So it's much more coordinated. It has to be a much more coordinated approach. So when you decided to shut down, it was really early. It was at the earliest or one of the earliest in this country, correct?”
2020-04-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Mayor London Breed · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Received it as a way for us to coordinate our responses and how we communicate with the public and how we really make sure that we show a joint effort because San Francisco could not do this alone.”
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“So I think part of, again, our early on conversations were more within San Francisco, but our county health officers here in San Francisco and other Bay Area counties were in constant conversations about what was going on. They were paying very close attention and making recommendations to us as leaders of what to do as we move forward. So a lot of the information was being coordinated through our county health officers. And that information is what myself and other mayors talked about and what this could mean for our cities. And in fact, San Francisco is a city and a county whereas Oakland and San Jose and others, they're part of other counties. And I basically was getting a lot of information a lot faster than some of the other mayors. And my, you know, I shared this information with them as quickly as I.”
2020-04-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Mayor London Breed · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, we're going to get to that in a second. But so one of the things when you're starting this, you have to coordinate with other mayors in the area, other mayors, other public officials, talk a little bit about how that works, because San Francisco, very small, even though it's a small city, a relatively small city, it's connected to the whole Bay Area. Something you have to cooperate with Bart, you have to cooperate with all kinds of things.”
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“Soon as that occurred, we definitely were paying close attention to what was happening there. You know, the connection, there's more of a direct connection to China and different regions in China than there is maybe to Seattle as it relates to San Francisco, but that was very close to home because it was just right over very close on the west coast. So we definitely were keeping a close eye on that. But a lot of what factored into our decision had everything to do with our concern for public health and being able to identify if someone was infected and identify that quickly and identify”
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“In brain surgeries and all these incredible things, biotechnology, everything, what do you mean we don't have enough? And so when they started to explain exactly what this means in terms of ICUs, in terms of respirators and how to care for patients and how this stuff works not only in San Francisco, but throughout the country, then that really basically forced me to pay even more attention to what was going on and the need to take action and the need to try and help the people of San Francisco understand how significant this really is. One of the things in the other parts of the Bay Area were doing that also down in San Mateo and all kinds of areas were super paying attention, largely, again, because of the Asian population, the large Asian population. Had you been looking at Seattle, was that part of the equation? Because that's where it really first started to strike. Well, yeah.”
2020-04-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Mayor London Breed · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Management, sit down with me and specifically, I said, well, why are we activating the emergency operations center to prepare, explain to me step by step? The explanation is what really like basically set off a light bulb in my head. They basically said that if this were to happen in San Francisco, we would not have enough beds. We would not have enough medical support. We would not be able to contain it or to stop the impacts of the virus and the number of deaths would surge out of control. And I said, what do you mean? We have UCSF. We have CPMC. We have Kaiser. We have General Hospital. We are like the research institution of the world that everyone looks at. I mean, we are renowned for our research, for the work we've done around the AIDS crisis, our medical team.”
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“Our large Chinese population here and the tides that people still have to their family members and visits that take place to certain regions. Right. But others didn't pay as much attention. So I want to get sort of what goes in your head when you decide what to focus on. So what goes on in my head, first of all, I have a lot of department heads who bring a lot of things to my attention. And I will tell you that probably in January, when we activated the emergency operations center to pay very close attention to this, we were concerned about ramping up. And so that was the first sign that I knew that this was going to potentially be a real problem for us, even though we were monitoring it. We knew it was getting out of control in other places. But when I had the Department of Public Health Director, the Department of Emergency,”
2020-04-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Mayor London Breed · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, it happens. We're given information. We're given information sometimes from the federal government, sometimes from national entities. We have a Department of Emergency Management. They facilitate all emergencies, whether they are forcing or not. So, for example, a terrorist attack that could be possible in San Francisco, an earthquake that happens unexpectedly. So we do simulations to prepare for emergencies on a regular basis. And it has more to do with our close contact with federal and state agencies, making us aware of things, different organizations like the World Health Organization and others. So we get updates and information on things happening all over the world on a regular basis. And so this was one that we paid close attention to again because of”
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“And other places started to diagnose other cases. So we were, of course, very concerned. We were preparing the city and we had to really understand whether or not people who were in Wuhan or in other places that were infected, they were probably coming back to San Francisco. So we had to act quickly.”
2020-04-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Mayor London Breed · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So in early December, the Department of Emergency Management, the Department of Public Health, we were having conversations about what was happening in Wuhan with an outbreak of the coronavirus and what that could potentially mean if we had a similar outbreak and we started to have conversations around San Francisco and whether or not it could reach San Francisco. And I think that it probably started here early, the conversations because we have a large Chinese population and people who are still connected to family members throughout China and in particular Wuhan. And so it was put on our radar. We were monitoring the situation very closely. And in January, we activated our emergency operations center. And we did that because we started to see, of course, a surge in places like all over China and then things started to somewhat take off in Italy.”
2020-04-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Mayor London Breed · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Thrilled that you're here. And just so you know, Mayor Breed is drinking green juice. Trying to keep healthy, but let's talk a little bit about what you've been doing. You've been getting a lot of kudos for very early. I want to sort of get into your mind of what you decided to do, what you did.”
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“Hi, I am Kara Swisher, editor at large of Recode. You may know me as someone who left her heart in San Francisco along with my Fitbit and three pairs of AirPods. In my spare time, I'm just a reporter, and you're listening to Rico Deco, a podcast about power change and the people you need to know. We're part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Today in the red chair, I am honored to have London Breed, the mayor of San Francisco. She's been one of the most visible local leaders during the coronavirus crisis because San Francisco seems to be flattening the curve in a way that other cities have not. We'll talk about why that is, what long-term recovery looks like, and how the tech community can be part of the solution. Mayor Breed, who I've interviewed before, welcome back to Reco.”
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