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Louise Casey

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first: 2023-06-09
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“I don't know, perhaps Chilsome Rose. Line up a few novels. I don't know. I'm trying to tell myself, Nick, there's more to life than work, but I've not worked that one out in 58 years. You said...”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well sadly, though I am in the House of Lords, I've not been to the House of Lords because I was made appear right in the middle of COVID and I got sort of special dispensation to be doing the homelessness work. Then I moved into food banks, King's Freezers and the Met. I've been caught up, but I'm now feeling terrible about it. And I hope now to make my maiden speech and start making a contribution from that chamber as well.”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Accept you can't change it. So most other things, I was relieved that Mark Rowling organisation didn't say, oh no, we don't recognize any of it. I mean, it would be pretty hard not to. It's 382 pages of evidence. And it's recent evidence as well. So it's not historic, it's current.”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's too early to tell, and I have a huge amount of time for Mark Rowley and for Lin Owens, the Deputy Commissioner, and I have a lot of time for a lot of people in the Met. I'm disappointed that they decided to argue over one particular word because in almost in a way that made it political. So for me, if 81%, if you are a person who has black skin and you work in the metropolitan police, you are 81% more likely to be in the misconduct system than if you have white skin. The issues of institutional systemic, organizational, whichever word you choose to use, it isn't necessarily just individuals being racist. It is within their systems they are blind to race. And in a way, accept it because, you know, it is what it is. And I view you don't...”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Attempt, obviously, I wanted us to be in agreement with the key findings of the review and I wanted us actually to be in agreement over the recommendations. But I think as it got closer, Mark Rowley found it more difficult. I was struck that morning that he came into the studio and sat down next to me uninvited. And I thought at the time, if anybody thinks that's going to stop me saying whatever it is I've got to say, then they misjudge me. You quoted...”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“One particular example, and this is not five years ago, it is 12 months ago. It meant all of those kits had to be thrown away, which means we discontinue with those rapes. So it was much more serious. So I had this sort of sense really, and I still do, that almost people drink the house met. It's like I don't know what happens. They go into New Scotland Yard and by the time they get into the lift, it's almost like fluoride in the water that suddenly they go from people that say to you before, God, you know, it's all pretty tricky, isn't it, Louise? You know, we got a long way to go to then feeling they have to be defensive and in denial. And they don't. The most important thing, and I know this myself, you know, it's a lesson I've had to learn myself, is that if you can see what you're not getting right or when you look in the mirror, you have to see the truth. And accepting that truth is really hard.”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, but they do it all the time. It's so interesting, this sort of hubris, really, this sort of sense really, you know, trust us, and it'll all be all right. And I'm thinking, dear God alive, you know, this is terrible. And so this guy stuck his head around the door within the first three days. He said, you know, I know we're getting hard pressed and all that sort of stuff. But if you come in the back of my car and I'll show you around on a ride-along, you will be so impressed. Everybody gets out of the car and says how brilliant it is. Meanwhile, I'm in a police station and some of the officers who were desperate to talk about how tough their lives were and what we are not helping the front line. That's the end of the day. Nobody's doing any favours to the people on the front dine pretending everything's okay, where I literally have broken freezers with rape kits in them, i.e. specimens taken from women like me who have been raped, put into broken fridges and freezers where”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Totally. I mean, you always get, even when in any job where you're looking at things, people often show you around and take you to things and they think if they show you enough, this was the interesting thing about the Met, it's almost the more I think the leaders thought they showed me, the more I would think, well, this happy days, this is all okay. But I suppose they didn't stop access. And the thing is that I am pretty relentless. So, you know, there wasn't a day or a week that went by when I wasn't nosing about the place or going to places or asking for details. You thought they were complacent.”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Misconduct in a police officer is totally undermining of the fact then they can arrest me, Nick. They can cuff me, they can strip search me, they can literally take my clothes off and strip search me. They can put me in a police cell for 24 hours, all on the basis of that officer's word. Well, if that's consent, then I need that officer to be beyond reproach in terms of particularly issues around violence against women and so on and so forth. So it was all a bit shocking.”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It was just not good enough. So the actual day to day you were ring 999, does anybody come not good enough, nowhere near good enough? The people doing it dilapidated, tired, people who've been raped, the service that they got. You've got kids who are 21 years of age as detectives with 31 live rape victims. I didn't expect to find all of that. And then on top of it, the thing that I still feel is fairly unforgivable is that...”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I didn't on both those fronts. So obviously, like everybody, Abduction rape, torture and murder and I was also aware of how grave the response was from the metropolitan police in the sort of Aftermath of that, the way they policed the vigil was short sighted and they were overly defensive about everything. It's almost this kind of, and then the sort of sense really that her murderer wasn't one of them and telling women to stand at bus stops and wave. It's just they were reeling. They obviously didn't know how to handle it at all. And to be fair to Cressida Dick, she said to me that she thought that we would find issues around culture, such as misogyny. What I didn't expect to find and what took me, therefore, much longer was actually a sense really that when it came to actual policing of London,”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think there is something really interesting about the fact a lot of the time he starts off very quiet, Nick. There's not a big, people say, oh, you know, he does all of this. Some of the things he's been involved with, he just does quietly behind the scenes and he doesn't need a lot of credit for it. And I think we could all take a leaf out of that book.”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Amount of money it spends on its weekly bill goes down because it can buy in bulk and it can freeze waste and then of course it reduces food waste which means the footprint is lower and so very quietly he didn't want anybody to know at that point he was involved we got the ball rolling because I said let's buy a thousand freezers and give them to food banks and and we did and we want to do more he wants us to do more to try and deal with sort of food waste and food poverty”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't know. I mean, I was involved with the Prince's Trust when I was about 25, 26, and I've on and off sort of been in and around his charity work for a long time. And I have just a huge amount of time for his utter determination. And normally he's right. So what's very interesting is like he was ahead of anybody on loads of stuff to do with the environment. I've obviously had more of an involvement in things to do with social exclusion and homelessness. And like last year we came together again because he wanted to see if there was anything he could do in an apolitical way, which is always tricky, particularly when you're the king, to ease in some way the cost of living. And of course we came up with an idea of freezers. This sounds bonkers, Nick, but bear with me on it, that basically if a household has a freezer, it's”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Then you would expect Baroness Hallett to operate at the highest integrity possible. That's what people like that do. They don't set out to be political and they don't set out to go for individuals in departments.”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I honestly think people need to get over it. It's like Baroness Hallett has been employed to do a job. She will rule what's relevant and not relevant. What everybody's worried about, I think, is all of these old ministers can't have thoughts and discussions with their advisors. She'll know the difference between ministers throwing about ideas and people doing wrong things. And so if they weren't afraid, you'd hand it over.”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't in that way. I think the people that use those expressions are giving themselves excuses for not being good politicians and good governors. And I think at the moment we've had an awful lot of civil service bashing, which honestly needs to stop. At the end of the day, a minister is responsible for the policy on his or her department, and a good minister should know how to get things done.”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I doubt that's going to happen. But were that to happen, and it was a brief where I could get something done, then yes I would. I mean, you know, I'm frustrated that the country is, we need good governance and we need good government and good government gets things done. And whether you employ people like me to be a sort of czar figure or whether you get administer to do the job they're doing, what we need is high quality people. And there are plenty of people younger than me that could do it as well.”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh, okay, the same way when Blair went back into Downing Street in 2005. He said I've detected on the doorsteps a lack of respect. And I thought, I'll have that. I'll have that one. I'll go.”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“People say to me, Why on earth did you go in and work with these people? You know, they'll never build enough had a nothing like government. It really frustrates me. Let's take water right now. We've got sewage going into water. I'm no eco-warrior. It's not my specialism. The government could tomorrow say within six months there will be no more sewage going into water. And I listened to him in your chair, as it were, in this chair, the same way that if the government decides that no child is going to go hungry, it can do it. That is what democracy is all about. And that's why people like me serve those democracies. I don't make this stuff up. I wait for a government to get into power. I wait for them to say, I want to turn around the lives of 120,000 families. And I go,”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I do take sides and I will take sides. And right now we need a change of government. And, you know, I don't think anybody's going to be shocked to hear that I actually fully support what Keir Stalmer is saying with his five missions. I just want five evils to run alongside the five missions where we essentially accept responsibility for the humanity and the human beings in our society. So when people are talking about in cutting waiting lists, great, great. That's what Blair did. It's what hopefully a next Labour government will do. But within that, there has to be something around the humanity of people as they get old and a bit more than a 15-minute person bless them coming in from a care home.”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Literally, why can't we make getting old easier? It's like we all know it's going to happen, and yet it's more than dill-not, it's more”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What would you do? I wonder whether actually it's obvious that we've got, we're not in a post war situation and we do have an NHS and we do have a free education system. So it's not like the giants that were there now. But we do have, in my mind, you know, I feel there are evils is my only way of describing it because I think the damage that they do to society is a bit more than the individual. So the very fact we've got too many people homeless, we're spending too much money on the failure of people's homelessness. We have children that are hungry. I mean, Nick, you and I both live in a similar source of area. We have both seen the growth of food banks in our own area, which there weren't before the pandemic. Why are children hungry in this country? And that isn't as straightforward as just handing out more money. The same way I also come to why God's name.”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We haven't, and I, you know I'm trying not to be naive, but I think in time my view is that we will realise that you can't have such a vast number of the squeezed middle, the Theresa May expression, the sort of low income. You can't have such a vast number of people struggling and having to take more than one job and being really concerned is just the pressure on that is to great. And I think that we haven't recovered from the pandemic sufficiently. The economy, everything. And I think that my worry is that political parties, both all of them, need to see that somehow just taking some of the economic, social pressure out of these families is worth it.”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The top is squeezed, and what's happening now is all of the people that were on furlough, all of those people you're squeezing with cost of living, gas bills, it's all squeezing and that then squeezes your bit down here, which now as use of food banks and also homelessness that goes up.”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And also the other thing is, like, I couldn't get over it when I went back in 2020. I couldn't get over the fact that all of the drug treatment and the mental health treatment and the alcohol detox had gone. It had completely gone. There was nowhere to refer people to. And I felt, and I still feel, that the government is spending actually quite a lot of money on the symptom of homelessness rather than the cure. And then I think the other thing which I feel we're at a stage now, and I sort of felt it acutely because of the pandemic, is I don't know what they said. Was it this week, Nick, or last week, that the Office of National Statistics have said, I think it's 1.7 million people will come to the end of their fixed rate mortgages. I think it was 1.7. And essentially, they will all be paying more mortgages. So we are flashing back to the George Younger John Major Thatcher times.”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I think what's really interesting is the fact that I think we know how to do it. So in a way, there's no excuse. So first time round, it was a strategy to stop rough sleeping, not just dealing with who's on the street, but actually who is coming onto the street. And that doesn't necessarily mean we're going to solve all of the childhood experiences and the impacts of the people end up homeless. But we can, for example, discharge people from prison on a Monday morning rather than a Friday afternoon. We can, for example, if somebody is in debt for about 52 quid, you can actually give them fifty two quid so they can pay their rent that week. There are preventative preventative things you can do to prevent homelessness.”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Generic as it was then? Bless them all, yes, they received a message and I sent a text saying, Oh, hello, I'm just walking down from 70 to your department. And they were very nice about it. But essentially, I just sort of took over.”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was quite emotional actually because I think the thing is that it was so obvious right from the beginning of the pandemic that people with less money than others were going to suffer more. And then on that Tuesday, Wednesday, I was in the cabin office anyway involved with an honours committee and I walked around the corner to see the then cabinet secretary and I said to Mark said, well, Mark, what on earth is happening on homelessness? We've got to do something. And that was that.”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I mean, it's just luck and determination. So I'd been in Sydney and Australia. I help and I chair a global charity on homelessness. And I happen to be in Sydney. They put me up in a hotel in Sydney. And during the week, I was working on the streets and blah, blah. I noticed that the hotel was emptying and changing. And I thought, this is interesting. Then I flew back into London that weekend, Nick, that the whole of the country was going stockpiling crazy. And I thought, what on earth is going on? And that was the first time ever I've contacted the Today program editor because I had her email and said, will you let me on Monday morning? So I went on on Monday morning and said, please stop stockpiling. You've all lost your minds. There's really poor people. And then I was sort of a bit heightened by it all.”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Actually, what's the best thing you can do? Isn't it that you solve the problem? And I don't sit in a trench that is, I'd rather it carried on being miserable in this trench rather than work with people that may not look like you or sound like you, but if you get them to change and you compromise, then essentially you get progress. And that's the most important thing, isn't it?”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Was a conservative. He very definitely is. And, you know, I've always felt for him because he came out with this soundbite saying you can step over a person sleeping outside the opera. And he meant how terrible that was. And we should do something about it. But of course he was castigated as being this sort of Tory toff that didn't care. And he did and he does.”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, while I had phenomenal schooling, so I was essentially brought up in a world of voluntary organisations in London that were essentially very organised. There was a woman who still somebody I know very well, Julia Ronwyn, who basically organised, and interestingly her family, I think her dad was a diplomat. So she understood the world of the civil service. So she, Nick Hardwick, Claire Tequal, there was a group of them. I was the junior writing the minutes of the meeting they were taking. And I could see that the way they were dealing with ministers was to say, well, it was George Young, of course, as well, who, you know, not many people know that he was the person at that period, just pre-97 in that period that said he did the first rough sleepers initiative.”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Totally, totally, totally, of course, yeah. I mean, my dad's family is long gone. They were older parents, and he got off on a boat when he was 15, 16 years of age because their dad had died. He was a tenant farmer. They lost their home, so the mother, with then the parish priest, it's like something out of, you know, a novel. They put them on boats to all over the world. So the sense really that if through no fault of your own you lose your job, like their dad died of a heart attack at 48. He's not a bad guy for dying for heart attack. It happens, but it then catapulted into essentially what I would now call homelessness. He didn't call it homelessness. The family didn't. It was just, you know, something you had to deal with.”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Do you have a red coat? Do you know, I never made it. Once they allowed me to wear a yellow coat we had, and I could call the old people's bingo. That was the pinnacle of my red coat career. So I never really thought about that a lot until I was working in the benefits office and I started to realize because they changed the rules around benefits for young people and I started to see people coming into our office that had nowhere to go. So I started volunteering at Centrepoint. It was a close call, Nick. So you then it stays with you some of that stuff. And my dad...”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I mean, as a couple of things, I guess there was a point in my late teens when I wanted to get out of home pretty quickly. And so I went to the then Job Centre and there was a job advertised, thank God, to work residentially on a would you believe it in Hailing Island at the sunshine holiday camp.”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Potentially, like I came in to sort out rough sleeping. We sorted it. We then went on to get onto, I remember the call from Jeremy Hayward saying, Louise, the Prime Minister is about to ask you to go out into those housing estates and sort all of those problems out. And I was thinking, what on earth is he talking about? That turned into being antisocial behaviour and dealing with ASBO's.”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That is true. There is a very one of my entertaining moments was, I think this could have been in the Gorbyn Brown era. I'll tell you what it wasn't. It was Cameron and it was social capital time. And basically they'd appointed some nice person. And Jeremy Hayward, who's the Cabinet Secretary's office, rang said, look, Louise, can you go and talk to this newly appointed lord? It's like they don't, you know, he doesn't really know what the score is. So when I walk around Whitehall and I'm in 70, which is quite a famous place, and I walk to the back, and then I realized he was at the back of the building. Then I looked at the staircase, Nick, and the carpet stopped. And then down the rest, there was no carpet on the staircase to his office. And I thought between you and I, you're dumb, mate. It's like, this is it. You're powerless. Like, nothing is ever going to change. Unless you work your way out of the bunker. Literally, literally. And so, and yet they absolutely, because they also come in with big...”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They also think Nick, honestly, the Prime Minister meets them as something and says, oh, we'd like you to come in and sort this out. And they literally think they're going to be sat next to the Prime Minister every day, you know, doing good works and they'll deliver everything. They'll never see the Prime Minister again, practically. And so you've got to have a lot of wherewithal and clarity about the actual job that you're being asked to do.”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And he had a wooden panelled room in Whitehall, and he flew in a helicopter, and we knew where he lived and what his wife did. And what they do is they sort of turn into personalities all of their own and, you know, get me doing these podcasts even now I'm a crossbench peer and way away from the Civil Service five years ago, it is unique and unusual for me to do these sorts of things because four years you're not a personality yourself. Your job is literally to be the person that delivers on the policy and you get all of the backing for that. You're also, you get the blame for it if it goes wrong, you take the flak for things when they're difficult, but actually you wouldn't have me popping up on question time and having a view on lots of other issues or you wouldn't find me not that anybody would want me to be in like a magazine talking about fashion, you just wouldn't, whereas actually others are, I think.”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I believe so. I didn't know at the time, but she had broad shoulders in terms of not wanting, you know, she didn't mind me getting on with it and didn't need the limelight, as it were. I think the mistake, you know, I remember.”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So I think if I look at those roles, first of all, I was there with a very clear, you know, you have to get this done, it's your responsibility. I had broad shouldered, strong ministers most of the time standing behind me so that certainly Hillary Armstrong, for example, was a phenomenal First Minister to work for. She didn't mind this slightly choppy, determined young woman that was out saying we've got to get all these people off the streets. Why the hell are you handing out sleeping bags?”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, I said what I thought. And I didn't realize I wasn't supposed to, if you see what I mean. I didn't come with any of that sense of, you know, obviously I completely respected the politicians that I worked for and I respected my bosses. But my job, our job was to essentially get as many people off the streets and stop them being replaced as is humanly possible. So it was a strategy not only to deal with the people there, but to stop new people arriving onto the streets and to make sure people didn't come back.”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“This is seriously everyone. I got them all into the office and I went, I've waited a long time for a government to turn around and say, here's 30 million, here's a target, we'll get the whole of the cabinet, you know, to be focused on ending rough sleeping. It's like anybody that doesn't think that is doable, you need to find another job now. I mean, I wasn't the easiest of people, but, you know, it set out a different way of thinking.”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh yeah, without a doubt, I mean I applied for the job, Nick, so I actually went in as a civil servant and it took them, the good old Moira Wallace and Mavis MacDonald, two formidable women in the civil service. It took them about six to nine months for them to persuade the rest of the civil service. It should be a director level. So there's all this stuff about what rank you are, where you fit. And within my first 24 hours, the really lovely people that had God loved them being given to me to help do with this had written something that we call a submission, which is you submit this note to ministers. And they basically said, hello, Minister, I am your director of Rough Sleeping. This is a very, very stretching target. It would be terribly difficult to achieve. We're not sure that that's going to happen, but we'll do a lot of good work along the way. As a protective mechanism, they were concerned to make sure that, you know, the kid didn't fail. And I was like,”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I think that you have a different perspective because I always say to a lot of people when you're dealing with ministers, it's not no minister because of all of these reasons. You can't do what you want, which is the sort of general way, the general to sound like a senior civil servant modus operandi of the senior civil services to sort of maintain the status quo. And there are really good reasons for that because what you don't want is everything being thrown up in the air, lots of hand grenades and lots of things going off all over the place. So there are good reasons for it, but what that then also gets you is this stasis and this inability to think differently about how you might solve a problem. And I think you therefore have to bring in different thinking and different people and frankly different class in terms of social economic class in order to then help you look at things differently.”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think I'm amazed they didn't put me in the diplomatic service. I mean, I'm just shocked that, you know, live grenade, God, that's quite harsh.”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't really know, actually. I started off working in charities with homeless people and then all our dreams came true when somebody said we want to reduce the number of people sleeping on the streets by two-thirds. We're going to set a target. We're serious. And I got that job. I suppose I'm pretty fearless and pretty Determined, if I believe in the cause, and then I always say to people, success, then breed success. We're a nation that loves our failures, really, aren't we? You know, God love Henman. Tim Henman never won Wimbledon, but we made a name of the hill after him. Do you know if we celebrate the underdog, which is one of our most endearing and wonderful qualities. But I think in getting things done, you've got to find a way through intractable problems and get out the other side.”
2023-06-09 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Louise Casey One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source