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  1. Struggle in this way is that, oh, they're weak. They just can't not do it or they like to party or they just like booze. It's so much more than that. And yeah, for me, it was definitely old stuff, old feelings, pain. I do think that, like I said, I would have struggled with this no matter what I did for a living, but I think finding success at an early age and the people pleasing and trying to be what people wanted me to be made me feel like a fraud, right? Because like now I can show up exactly who I am and share my story and to actually be able to talk about this.

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  2. Yes, definitely. I mean, alcohol isn't the problem. The problem is this feeling inside of me. Alcohol was the solution, you know, for a while. It was my solution. I'm like, oh, I don't have to think about being good enough or whatever the problem was like it worked for a really long time until it just left me feeling depressed, anxious, lonely. Just worthless, but there is a big misconception about people who

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  3. I have to try it a different way. And I have to be willing. Just commit to it. Know, because Ben's drinking, I would be sober for three months, then relapse, be sober for a week, relapse. And I never, the really crazy thing is I never let it get in the way of my job because my career has always been so important. When I'd go home at night, it would just be like so dark, and I'd be so in my head about it. But

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  4. Who is an angel, truly an earth angel, I believe has saved my life at times. Like this woman has been there for me. She's had hard conversations with me. I've had friends who've tough loved me, but I've had friends who say we can't until you do X, Y, and Z. I've always been shown love and support, but the thing about Addiction, or just life in general, like you gotta want something for yourself. Like, I had so many things happen where you would have thought I would change. I've had, I tried to change for boyfriends. I tried to change for my mom. I tried to change for my career. I tried to change for vain reasons. I'm like, well, I'll look younger and be skinnier. I'll stop drinking for that. None of that shit works. Had to and wanted to get sober. January 2nd, 2022, because I said I deserve more. I deserve more out of this life.

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  5. Many times, and I But it's one of those things. I remember the point in my life where I'm like, I woke up. A morning after drinking, and it was when I wanted to keep drinking, I was like, oh, my reaction to alcohol is different than my friends. Like, this is different. And I've known I had a problem this whole time. There was never a moment where. Thought I was normal. There have been moments where I didn't want to change because I'm like, I'm not giving this up. Are you kidding me? Like, who would I be if I can't have fun and let loose and drink? But I had many times my manager of nineteen years.

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  6. I've had an issue from my very first experience drinking, which was like age 14. until a year ago? I have had a problem. I've never had a period of my life. Let's go. Let's just, I was willing to just go to this crazy dark place every time. And, you know, of course, I tried trying to be a moderate drinker, just having to. I have an allergy to alcohol. I cannot drink. I view it as an allergy to alcohol. My brain doesn't. Work the same way as someone who can just have a glass of wine. It always wants more. It's like craving that feeling.

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  7. Still so taboo because it's because people would just tell me, well, Lucy, don't drink. Oh, thank you. Oh, okay. Thank you so much. I'll try that. Thanks. But now it is that. Now it's like, okay, I just don't pick up the first drink and I'm fine. Because what would happen for me is I'd pick up the first drink. I'd like the feeling. I'd have another drink. I'd really like the feeling. And then it was past drink two. Don't remember. I wouldn't remember the rest of the night.

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  8. It started with wow, I can be free and funny and boys will like me. This is when I'm younger, right? I just like held on to that belief that real Lucy came out when she was drinking. Guess what? Real Lucy did come out, but it was that rage and pain that I had been holding onto for so long. But it also quieted my mind. I feel like I'm not the only person on the planet that deals with this, but like my brain just goes, doesn't shut off. It's exhausting. But when I drink, because I was like textbook binge drinker. Blackout wouldn't remember what I did, what I said, which is And it's also hard to explain that type of drinking to someone because People who haven't experienced it or dealt with it personally, addiction is such a Topic that

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  9. Sure when this podcast comes out, and I've never talked publicly until yesterday about being sober. I have a little over a year of sobriety, which the people in my life, my friends, my family who are just the greatest people in the world and have stood by my side for, you know, I've been working on getting sober since I was 20. I'm 33. It takes time. It took time. And it took patience with myself. I mean, this is a topic I could talk about until. The end of time, but Basically, what alcohol did for me. Did a couple of things. It was like this feeling of oh my god, this is what I've been searching for my whole life. I'm my truest self, right? Like I'm so much funnier and cooler and people like me. That's all bullshit. Guess what? Not true. I was not myself, not my truest self, but.

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  10. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it all kind of ties in together. I think the people pleasing is such a big thing I've been working through in my life because what people pleasing does is you're doing things that aren't authentic. You're doing things you don't want to do. What does that do? Well, it builds anger and resentment. Well, then if you repress that anger and resentment, then what happens? Well, it's going to come out some way. And for me, my... For such a small human, I have so much rage that I have now sorted through, but for so much, I just like bottled up that rage. And for me, I The coping mechanisms I discovered worked for me were like incredibly self-destructive and self sabotaging. And I, um,

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  11. Things are ugly sometimes, right? Yeah. Maybe it's more that I didn't feel worthy of the things I had in my life. I didn't feel deserving because a lot of my life post-success, I did not feel worthy of the success or the career or the people in my life. It was like this limiting belief that I was A fraud if people really knew who you were, they wouldn't like you. Like you're worthless. You don't deserve this. And even though I wasn't actually saying those things like subconsciously, that's what was happening, I think, because I would keep making the same mistakes and be like, why is this happening? It's because I had this belief that I. Deserve any of it

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  12. I know it's such a strong word, and it makes me sad that I felt that way. Maybe he hates a strong word. I do this sometimes too. I'll say something, then I'll backtrack and try to like paint it prettier.

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  13. One hell of a journey, and I truly am not gonna cry again. I wouldn't have changed anything. I literally would not have changed any dark moment, situation, because the perspective and empathy I've gained from that, I would not have otherwise.

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  14. And, like, real confidence is not, I read my whole Instagram now is just like silly affirmations, but it helps. But I read something the other day that's true confidence is not, I hope they like me. I'm paraphrasing, but not I hope they like me. It's I'm okay and know who I am, even if they don't. And yes, that's exactly what it is. And that confidence is what I've been searching for my whole life. And to know that and to show up anywhere I go with anyone, with new people and say, I'm accepted because I accept myself. I have value because I value myself. You can put me in any situation, anything. I truly mean this, and I have the confidence that I'll get through it. Sober and happy.

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  15. Uh oh, I guess we got to control the way I look again, and then I'll be enough, and then people will like me. My MO for so much of my life was, how can I get people to like me? Even though I hated myself.

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  16. So I'm like, okay, well, we got to be pretty, we gotta be little. Okay, well, we got this. And you're also 20 years old where everyone wants to look a certain way. Like that age, you all want to look the same and you want to. Know it just all flared up again, and it was all I thought about again, you know, because I thought I had overcome it. And then. But then it became a thing of control. And then it ultimately wasn't about wanting to be pretty or little. It was about this is scary, my life has completely shifted overnight. Millions of people are seeing my face. Instagram had just started. You know, it was just sort of beginning my first post ever on Instagram was me and of season one of Pretty Little Liars. And it was like my life was now under a magnifying glass. I felt out of control.

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  17. Well, what was interesting is that it started before I even moved to LA. The eating disorder was when I was like 13 before I'd even thought about, you know. Before I had found success. So I'm certain the things I've dealt with in my life I would have dealt with anyway. It just might be on the opposite end of the spectrum because I think that the reasonings behind all of these things, those are old feelings. That's old stuff that has been ruminating for a while. But yeah, I mean, this industry is at a different point now where so many people are accepted different types of people, different bodies, everything. And it's such a beautiful place. I think the industry is heading, especially for a woman But when I was turning out, it wasn't really that way. And then I like book a show that's called Pretty Little Liars. What?

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  18. Yeah, I haven't thought about all that in a long time too because I'm so on the other side of it. And it's nice. It's so nice to not have that.

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  19. Yeah, I did my mom Shortly before she moved to Tennessee, you know, she recognized it was a problem and she helped in the best way she knew how. But I'm sure as a parent, she felt helpless and felt like it was her fault maybe. I went to a therapist only a handful of times where that was the first time I had heard your anorexic. And that word just sounds so daunting and scary. But I mean, I've never been in denial though. Like I've always had, I always knew it wasn't normal behavior. Like I knew that my hair shouldn't be falling out. And then I knew that I shouldn't be able to see every bone in my body. But you get like addicted to this feeling of controlling your own body. So I kind of knew it was a problem, but I didn't know what anorexia meant until this therapist had told me. That was probably like age. Seventeen?

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  20. Always ask how did you survive those horrible years of your eating disorder? It was my Italian boyfriend who loved and appreciated food, and he would make us go to dinner, and I learned to enjoy food again, and it was like. Each year that went by, I started to feel better and better. And then I booked Pretty Little Liars and it got a little dodgy again and scary, but I learned other coping mechanisms that worked for a while until they didn't. But now my relationship I never thought I could call myself a foodie because today, like I love food. That's how I experience a new city or a culture. Like I just appreciate it and I know that we need food to survive. And I like and love and respect my body too. If I'm tired, I rest. I want to work out, I work out. I can just sort of navigate feeling uncomfortable so much better these days.

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  21. I'm sensitive, and I know that it can be triggering and hard for people to talk about food and bodies and people don't understand how someone who objectively is thin could think they were overweight And I can't explain it, but that's just what I saw and what I felt. And now I can look back and see photos and think, oh my God, I was so I wasn't seeing reality. You just create this narrative in your head that's scary and dark And it ultimately wasn't about the way I looked. It was about Much more, which is I had no self-worth. Incredibly low self worth and And I really owe it to like getting out of that. I dated a guy. For a long time, who was Italian? I mean, it sounds so silly. It's like, how did you get help? It wasn't through therapy. I didn't start doing therapy until my early 20s for a different reason.

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  22. The space of an eating disorder because there's a spectrum and I can only speak from my point of view, which I mean, I really don't know any woman that has a normal relationship to their body or to food, you know, because society makes it really freaking hard to like the way you look. Social media is can be a really beautiful place and you're doing such an amazing thing with the work you do and like changing lives. But like the social media can be. I have to really limit who I look at, what I look at. And I'm a grown adult. And it feels silly, but you have to like curate your life to keep your mind and soul and spirit feeling good. I always feel a little uncomfortable talking about an eating disorder because I'm

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  23. Movement. And then I saw my body kind of change. And then I started restricting eating. And then it became, like I said, just it slowly just grew and grew to something that I could not enjoy life. I could not have a conversation. I could not focus on anything. It's a miracle that I even started working and could focus on acting because it was when I mean it was a constant loop. I don't know how I got out of it. And I mean, the thing with eating disorders is. Always creep back up on you, and there are days when I don't feel like my best self, but I love myself enough now to nourish my body. And it's so sad to think that I hated myself so much that I couldn't even give it basic needs like food. Are you kidding me? Like that is so tragic. And so many people don't understand.

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  24. And so now I can look back and say, maybe as a kid I thought my parents got divorced because of me. Maybe I, you know, there's a million different scenarios. So I'm certain I learned it at a young age. And as kids, none of us come out unscathed, right? Like we all take on some sort of. Pain and trauma from somewhere or someone. But mine manifested as an eating disorder initially, which then led to Other issues, but it all started because I always try to think When did it begin? When did this obsession begin? And I want to say it was maybe around 13 or 14 when I had, no, no, no, like 14, 15 was starting homeschooling and I had to start logging my exercise hours. And It was for PE, and you had to say, I did PE today for X amount of time. And that's the only thing I can think of that started this obsession with.

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  25. And that's still a question I'm figuring out because self-worth and knowing I'm enough, like where did the thought of I'm not enough come from? Did I hear it when I was a kid? I don't know. Did I hear something that resonated as you're not enough? Maybe.

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  26. I think for anything that disrupts your life or your happiness or your relationships or your career like That can be described as a problem. And I think for me, it was all I thought about from the moment I woke up until I went to bed at night. How much did I eat? How much did I work out? I would step on a scale 30 times a day. I was eating so little that it was shocking. And it wasn't really ever about. That's a lie. It was about the way I looked at one point because I thought if I could just be this number or this goal weight, then I'll be enough. Because it all rooted back to, I don't feel enough. I don't feel like enough.

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  27. compassion now like i don't want to say i feel sorry for myself but I do believe in like. I was a teenager, but all the inner child work where you just kind of see that image of you, young you, and really hold space for that and really speak kindly to yourself. But honestly, I don't really remember a lot more. And I don't know if that's weird, but I also feel that similarly about my childhood, I have certain memories, but I don't know. Maybe I was disassociating a lot. I told you I lived in my head. Know it seems like

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  28. I was very grateful to be in LA and pursuing this dream, but that was kind of the beginning of it all, of what was to come. Like I wish I could go back and tell my 16-year-old self like buckle up, girl, we're gonna get through this, but we're gonna go through some shit, you know, I, and I've been open about this before. Like, I struggled with an eating disorder most of my teen years up until like mid-20s. And it was around that time that it had kind of that was like turned up to a 10. And I, and it, I mean, it's all in direct correlation with moving to a new city, throwing myself into the world of acting. Like I think my life kind of felt out of control in a way and my emotions felt out of control and body stuff, food stuff is all needing. Needing to control and So, yeah, I mean, I guess I look back on that time and

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  29. So interesting because I actually haven't Seeing this building in Vancouver was the first time I had thought about that time in my life. Years. I actually haven't sat and thought about. Know, I also feel like so much of my memories are kind of blurry from that time. So weird. Like, I can't even answer that question. I think.

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  30. Supporting myself since 17. And then I think my mom saw that I somewhat had a good head on my shoulders by 18. And then she moved back to Tennessee.

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  31. Yeah, so the first, so this is a really cool story to tell you because I just got back from Vancouver. But the first show I ever did, the first series was called Bionic Woman. It was a remake of a show really popular show from the 70s, 80s on NBC. And I got cast as the little sister. And we lived in Vancouver in this building right by the sea line. And then I now, 19 years later just was working up there again and I look out the window of the building I was living in, it's the exact same building my mom lived in. And I'm like, that is just. The Full circle. It was the coolest full circle moment of being 16 there with my mom on my first job to everything that's transpired to me being 33 working there now. It was just like this really incredible moment. But yeah, started kind of working.

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  32. Yeah, so she the only way we could afford to live out here, because as you know, cost of living is insane. She was a travel nurse, which is kind of an agency for nurses that live across the world and they could place her at a hospital and they would pay for our rent and she would make a little extra money. But I mean, we were kind of barely getting by, barely getting by. I feel like there's always kind of financial worry there, but we always, she always made it work. We always figured it out.

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  33. Triggered or defensive because we're really similar in the way we approach our emotions, I guess. And so we kind of. Have butted heads at times, but she's always been my Biggest fan, and I have no idea how, because I often think if I had a daughter who wanted to do what I want to do, would I do that? I don't know. How do you know? It's kind of insane, isn't it? Thanks, Mom, for being insane. I love you for it. Like, thank God. But. Was a risk for sure.

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  34. Yeah, it's totally bizarre. And when I tell people that, I just have to set the tone. My mom was not a stage mom at all. And by that I mean she wasn't, it was never forced upon me. She just always. Encouraged me to follow this dream, which is so incredible because you hear of so many people where it's the opposite, where the parents are forcing a dream you don't really want onto you. And she just instilled a lot of willpower. My mom is such a hard worker. I do believe I have my, I get my drive and work ethic from her. And she's so selfless. Like she would give her last penny to anyone and just loves with her entire heart. And my mom and I have definitely had our Rough moments in over the course of our lives, but we're in such a beautiful place now where we really can show up exactly how we are without getting

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  35. Yeah, yeah, Karen Lucille. And so she definitely lives on in me in that way. Yeah, that's nice to chat about her. Thank you for bringing her up.

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  36. Differently than anyone in my family. And as an adult, I can look back and think I'm so much like her. Like I just, I miss her. She died really young. She died of emphysema. And it's shocking I never picked up smoking because I told you I'm like an extremist, but I've never been a smoker because of her. Yeah, she died in her mid-60s. She was so funny. Like, she had breathing tubes on, and she smoked until the day she died still. But that just like showed you who she was. She just. Was a powerhouse and so funny. And I miss her. I miss her all the time. And it's kind of sad because Don't have that many pictures of her because it was before I had a cell phone and she died when I was 15. Maybe had just gotten one of the sidekicks or Nokia phones. And I just don't have that much tangible memories of her.

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  37. So she, her name was Karen, and she was my dad's mom. And my grandmother, rest in peace, you amazing soul. She was the coolest badass woman I've ever met. She taught me about things that maybe I shouldn't have learned at such a young age. She would put on Oprah when Oprah would be talking about really heavy topics. She put on the movie Greece when I was a kid, and that was a movie where I'm like, I want to do that. And I don't know where you land within the medium psychic space, but I've talked to, I do, I practice Reiki. With this woman named Katie who always senses my grandmother's energy and every kind of experience like that, my grandmother's energy has showed up. So I truly believe that she is here with me. But she was just smart and she thought.

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  38. Gotta meet me here. And it doesn't mean you can't compromise with people. That's different. But I just allow a certain kind of thing in my life.

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  39. Feel sorry for yourself, but life is so much more interesting and freeing and liberating when you look at something when you look at things that have happened to you when you're a child and say what beautiful lesson did I get out of that? And if we're just taking my parents' divorce as an example, the biggest lesson I learned from that is what kind of love do I want in my life? What am I going to stand for or not stand for? And something I always stand by in my life is like I'm not settling. I'm not settling. And that can mean that just means people got to meet me where I'm at. I've worked too hard to feel how I feel today for jobs, experiences, people, relationships, lovers, friends, whatever it is.

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  40. Was I saying before? Sometimes I go in a trance and I just talk and don't even remember what I was talking about. Oh, just talking about my parents' divorce. Yeah, I think it's so easy to look at these experiences and

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  41. Many lessons. I mean, I think that anything that's traumatic or painful. I sort of just use that as ammunition to move forward. I'm like, what is this trying to teach me? What has this given me? Because we can look at any experience and say and play victim. And you can, I think it's okay to be the victim when you're younger. Like your teenager, your 20s, it's kind of okay to do that and part of life. But I think at some point, you have to take ownership of your life. That's why I feel like so many people are miserable because it's you're in victim mode. Ever want to be a victim of my life or my circumstances ever? I want to be the happiest I can be and learn the most I can possibly learn about myself. And sometimes that means Have to go to a dark place sometimes to get to that point. I'm a crybaby. Yeah, that's fine. Don't even remember

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  42. You know, I often think about this because I think it was one hundred percent the best decision for everyone and I Know you hear about so many people staying together for the kids. Oh my no. I'm so glad that my parents separated because it was the best thing for everyone. Um it wasn't a happy marriage. I don't think Know, and I want to respect both my parents and not speak up really on that. But I do think that. It may have been a little toxic at times, and I was four, my sister was six, and it was. It allowed for a little more peace and calmness, and both of my parents are now remarried to wonderful people. And it all worked out. But I think I was raised by a single mom for a lot of my childhood. She was remarried for a little bit, but my dad is now back in my life and he's given me.

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  43. I don't feel like I emotionally developed in, I don't know what normal is, but I feel like I missed out on some normal experiences. So it wasn't until that period of my life afterwards where I realized. How I was contributing to my own suffering. And I didn't even realize the magnitude of it until I was outside of. Something like that show

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  44. Yes, I didn't realize it. I realize now that my job completely was and has been at times a huge band-aid for a lot of issues in my life because I have like very addictive tendencies and a very addictive personality and work like a lot of people can be such an amazing distraction and we get away with it because you're productive. You make money. People like you. It's not like a negative addictive behavior. But it's so easy to not heal or not focus on what's going on when you're constantly busy. And that's why after an experience like Pretty Little Liars, why everything kind of just, you know? Because we did that show for, we did 170 something episodes. That was like eight years of my life in between 20 and 28 years old.

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  45. Was another reason why I really wanted to do this because I thought that episode in particular was so powerful. Really moving.

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  46. There was I didn't feel like home. I never knew where I fit in. I felt I love my family so much, but I always felt like the black sheep of the family. I just felt different, even as a little kid. And it's no wonder that I got into acting because that was, I was always in my imagination. Like my coping mechanism was like Dreamland in my head and like fantasizing about what my future would look like. Well, if you believe in the power of manifestation, my future looked like this, like little Lucy kind of created this whole life for myself. And I just knew I wanted. Something different.

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  47. I always ask her now, I'm like, How did you? Did you do that? Like, that's kind of insane. And she, and I'm sure she has her personal reasons too, but. Was like, I kind of just had this feeling it was going to work out for you. Also makes me cry, and I also think it's really funny because if it hadn't have worked out, I'd be screwed because I didn't graduate high school. I wouldn't know where I belonged. I think my lucky stars that it did work out because life would look a lot different, I'm sure. And then so we moved to LA planning to stay for three months at 15, and I never left. And I've been here almost 20 years. And now I guess it's a good segue into what I meant by a way out. And I guess what I mean by that is. I never felt. I knew that life.

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  48. It was also hard for me up until recently to know why I wanted to be an actor. I didn't know why until recently, and I'll circle back around to it. But so it was this Hannah Montana audition, which led to knowing what a pilot season was and pilot season for anyone listening is when they don't really have a pilot season anymore because of streaming and everything, but it's when a network pays money for one episode to see if they want to invest in doing a series. You know what a pilot season is. But I talked to my mom into moving out to California. And when I mean, I didn't talk her into it. I think it was perfect timing for her and for me. And we packed up our Prius and all of our stuff, which wasn't a lot. I come from a very simple upbringing. And my mom was a travel nurse. She cashed in her retirement for us to move out here.

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  49. But anyway, so I grew up performing in that way. And then I found out what it meant to be an actor. This is probably around age 13 or 14. And we found this small agent who Like Luce, you should audition for this show that Disney's doing called Hannah Montana. This was years before they cast Miley Cyrus. And it was then, it was that moment and that audition where I was thinking, oh, I can act and sing at the same time like this is my dream. This is my way out, you know? Get, yeah. You're so smart. Yes. So I now as an adult, I'll circle back around to it. Because, you know how I said it was hard for me to say what kind of person am I?

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  50. I guess my love of entertaining. Came from My mom was married to this man who heard me singing in my room when I was probably like six or seven. I loved Aladdin. I vividly remember pretending to be Jasmine on the magic carpet, and I would just sing with my little tapes. And he told my mom, like, Lucy's got a good voice. And up until that point, I had never, you know, I was too young to even know what being a singer meant, but that led to taking singing lessons, which led to performing around Memphis. And mind you, I hated performing live. Like I felt for someone who's an introvert and someone who loves solitude, being on stage, and I'm sure we'll talk about this later, like I ended up doing music as an adult and I still had that same feeling. I just felt so exposed and it was really scary and I run a little anxious.

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