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Luis Gutierrez

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  1. “Very heavy implications, especially when they know when you have this little card and they're looking at you. And so I got to tell you, even sometimes when I would go back to meet, when I would go out to streets and sanitation and they'd ask me questions, I said, do you really want, I mean, do you really want me to answer? The point is, He gave us such freedom to reform and to look and to, so I learned a lot during those two years”

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  2. “Just ran for mayor. Right against Ram. So that's who we are. And you know what? I gotta tell you, David, he gave us such freedom because I would talk to a commissioner or a deputy commissioner and I would simply give him my card instead of administrative assistant mayor's office. I'd give him my card. I said, if you have a problem with what I'm telling you, then I'll have to tell the mayor. And I'm just going to go back upstairs. And they knew that he had people like me and others. And we were your ultimate doogers, right? We were very, very, very straight.”

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  3. “Mayor's chief of staff called me that summer and said come on down. The mayor would like to talk to you. I was like flabbergasted. I said, really? And I went to see the mayor and he told me there's enough time between you running against Dad Rosikowski and me being able to bring you into the fold. And I understood he was the chairman of the Ways and Means Committee. You know, Harold was the mayor. It was still necessary relationship that he needed to have. And like hiring somebody that just ran against him for commitment, you might need a cooling off period. And he hired me. He hired his Garcia. He hired Juan Velazquez.”

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  4. “Yes Driving a cab Against Stan Rostankowski, who Very powerful pillars The ignorance of his power was bliss, right? It allowed me to run against him recklessly. I didn't know I was going to, I thought I was going to win. I was for Harold Washington. I was for truth, justice in the American way, right? How could I lose?”

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  5. “The former student leftist, right? Who is now in his Morgan Mindy stage of his life, married, right, to ask me, it was so insulting that I said, I have to do something, right? I have to do something. And I went down to Harold Washington campaign office. They gave me a poll sheet. And I said, teach me. I didn't know. I said, teach me, how do you do this? And then I called every one of my friends that had gone to college with. And one of them said, well, I don't know if I have time. Don't ever talk to me about apartheid again. And I knew where they were at politically. You have an opportunity to do something. So what I did, I believe. Happened hundreds of times over. People like me who had never been involved in politics learned how to do it, right, got our friends engaged.”

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  6. “Democratic pre That it got me registered to vote. It got me my garbage can that always used to come and ask me to vote for the Alderman and Democratic candidates, right? Punch 10, if I remember, vote Democratic all of the time.”

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  7. “They did If you remember from the primary to the general election, the one vote that opened up, that is about 20% of the Puerto Ricans voted for Harold Washington in the primary. Right. But then he went to 65, 70%. You didn't see that kind of swing among white voters or among African or African Americans who were with them in the primary. Yeah, right, right, right. So you saw this swing. But just very quickly, so when those precinct captains knock on my door?”

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  8. “He did get strong support in the Puerto Rican community because the Puerto Rican community has a rich history of, how would I say, acknowledgement, acceptance, and embracing of our African culture that makes part of who we are, right? Roberto Clemente is our hero. He's Puerto Rican. He's also black, right? So, you know, Harold Washington was, and if you go to New York City, right, and you go to Manhattan on one side of Harlem, it's Spanish Harlem, and the other is Black Harlow. We have a history. The interesting”

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  9. “You know, I just bought my house You know, my wife and I, we just had our first daughter of two gorgeous daughters that we had. And so you're thinking more commendy. I call it my Morgan Mindy. Why did I say that? Because you kind of put your 40 hours in at work by your six-pack of old style on Friday. You play some dominoes on the weekend. You see the latest movie. You know, when you hang out with your friends and what's a celebration, somebody gets married, there's a baptism, right? That's your life, right? And paying the mortgage and watching this whole house so you can fix your house, right? I mean, that was my life. It's a good life, right? But there was nothing external from that life, right? The rest of the world, you were isolated from the rest of the world in terms of what is important to you. And what Harold did was broke that down, right? And so when Dan Raustin, Congressman Dan Rostinkowski was the commitment of the 32nd War, I lived in the 32nd Ward.”

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  10. “Harold represented that for me. And so think of young people, right? I was young. I was young then. I was young. I was in my 20s. We all were.”

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  11. “So Crusoe Nosorio and Mr. Osorio were shot in Humble Park by police officers. There was a great outcry of our community of the injustice. For mayor of the city of Chicago to come to my neighborhood and to know that and to speak to that?”

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  12. “Yes So I was anti elections, anti-politicians, anti-registering to vote until Harold Washington ran for mayor of the city of Chicago. And I went to Northwest Talla, north and Western Avenue. It was cold. It was damp. It wasn't, you know, it wasn't a nice place, right? But he came in and he electrified the place. And I remember the one thing he said. He said. The police shot Cruz Enosorio in the back. I will not allow the police and I said what? He's challenging the police.”

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  13. “I send her emails because remember when Barack Obama did DABA, right? And it went to the Supreme, right? And they were challenging it. And I sent her an email. And I said, I can't get in. So I'm trying my Puerto Rican connection. She emailed me back. She says, you got a seat. Supreme Court justice just talking to me in the vernacular.”

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  14. “Yeah, if you read her book, her autobiography, she's going to tell you that when she arrives, she says, I can't compete So, our greatest triumph was English.”

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  15. “And so in the English department, they wouldn't give him tenure because he said, oh, you're spending too much time teaching grammar and syntax, right? And spelling and basic English. And we're the English department, right? And we fought for him. And they developed a wonderful program for him. And he spent the next 30 years there teaching English and making sure that students, Puerto Rican Supreme Court justice She writes in her book that she confronted the same. Just so my”

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  16. “And I see, and I'm just here's what happened, David. I'm a senior now. Most of the kids, the Puerto Rican kids that are going to the Northeastern, they can barely get through their freshman year, much less make it to a senior year. So I'm an anomaly, right? I'm a senior. I'm going to graduate. And I see that I have a responsibility to lead. So I take over the student newspaper, Condesola. I become president of the Puerto Rican student union. And interestingly enough, yes, did we advocate for more professors of Latino studies? Yes. But you know what our greatest triumph was? Harold Hill, Dr. Harold Hild. were not going to survive unless we enrich their English language, basic English language skills.”

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  17. “was this dynamic young leader of the 1972 remember for those who can't remember it was the first year that you could be 18 and vote so you ought to talk about young people having the opportunity and then i come back to chicago and i go to northeastern illinois university”

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  18. “In Puerto Rico, the Commonwealth is right, kind of middle of the road. They were friendly, but not that friendly to me when I arrived in San Sebastian. The statehooders who you would have thought would have said, hey, these speaks English work some of they really treated me very poorly. Interestingly, the people that treated me the best were the independentistas, those that were advocating for independence because they saw me as a product of the colonial system, of some of my parents having to leave the island of Puerto Rico. And so I was part of that diaspora and they were welcoming me back what? To the fatherland, back home as kind of this prodigal son that is gone and now has come back. And so they taught me about, I mean, poetry and history and the economics of the island and our history. And they really embraced me. So what does that mean? That means that I was putting up posters. I was campaigning for the Puerto Rican Independence Party.”

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  19. “Here's what happened. So when I go to Puerto Rico, it's interesting. The Commonwealthers, right, those that believe in the Stadocial, the current.”

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  20. “It was just all he had to say just for my Spanish isn't that good, but don't I sound like your grandson? Don't I sound like your nephew? Don't I sound like your children who never had the ability? Yeah, Guterres got his fancy Spanish over here. He wants to impress you with it. That's what I would have done. And you know what? In Puerto Rico, they would have said Ibendito. Look at him. And I could have just seen the tears flowing, but he didn't. He was arrogant. He was mean. And he wanted to say to white ethnic population, I'm going to speak English.”

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  21. “We're going to get to that. And he starts speaking in English. I knew at that moment the kind of sin he had committed whether it's political”

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  22. “Because I know you're going to complain about when I brought you here. You wouldn't be who you are today had I not brought you to this island. Your proficiency in Spanish, your understanding of the idiosyncrasies of who we are, Have allowed you to be successful. And I said to myself, wow, he was right. It really. Did allow me to have another lair, right? And another exposure that a Puerto Rican kid growing up in Chicago, so I want my opponent decided in 1986, right, Harold Washington was for me, Edward Olyak, and a lot of people was for Manny Torres, and Manny Torres goes to debate.”

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  23. “And so now I saw I was limited, and plus living in a small town, you want to get out. So how do you get out? You go to college. So I don't know, so many of my friends didn't go to college, David. They didn't. You know, in 70, 71, you graduated from college, you went to Helen Curtis, to shipping or motorola or zenith or some company, and you got married. Lots of kids did. Lots of young people did that. I didn't, right? I went to college. Lastly, I wrote an autobiography. several years ago. And in writing it, I went to interview my dad. And anybody that suggested that they remember everything, you better check with all your friends and contemporary of the moment because you might not get it right. As I was interviewing my dad at the end, he said, I just want you to know.”

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  24. “Yeah, I did, and here's why because it was also as negative as I've portrayed it and as painful. It was really emotionally painful I met Puerto Rican teachers. I met a Puerto Rican mayor. I met Puerto Rican police officers. I met Puerto Rican doctors, lawyers, engineers, architect. So all of a sudden, all of the things that I was limited in seeing and my potential, right? From Chicago, I said, wow. Man, Puerto Ricans can do all of these wonderful things. I had never met a Puerto Rican teacher in Chicago or a doctor or anybody that was, how would you say? So my role model was my dad that went ferociously to drive that cab and my mom that woke up at 5 o'clock to go to advanced transform, they were my role models, excellent role models. Admirable.”

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  25. “You know, it is really difficult when you're 15 years old. confront that kind of shock and not have probably a lot of listeners remember you know when you were in first grade you probably still some of us had friends through college i mean or through high school imagine all your first grade friends second grade all your friends that you've established in your in your neighborhood gone so all your infrastructure is gone and then there's all this hostility towards you because the only thing the Puerto Ricans really understood about us their fellow Puerto Ricans and their diaspora in the United States was from Westside Story so they thought pretty a moment I'd pull out a knife and I'd have some black sneakers you know unfortunately that was then this is now it's a very different now now I go to Puerto Rico and you know it's different I'm a member of Congress and so there's a it's a different reality for me”

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  26. “Nobody can afford. And so that was the Lincoln Park that I grew up in. So I like to say in synthesis, it was, I was always too Puerto Rican to be American in Chicago. And then when I got to the island of Puerto Rico, I was like the gringo who was too American to ever be Puerto Rican.”

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  27. “So I lived in Lincoln Park when Lincoln Park was Puerto Rican. And the young lords were on Armitage Avenue and they had the daycare center and free food and free healthcare. This is the 60s, right? And I had the hippies on Wall Street with other psychedelics going on. This is all.”

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  28. “It was predominantly white. So, you know. It was both as I look at the history. So in 1953, so I'm born in 53. So I'm born with separate but equal is the law of the land, right? And in Chicago, you knew with, I mean, Chicago was different, right? There were swimming pools you knew not to go to. There were playlots you knew not to go play baseball. And there were lines of demarcation streets that you knew not to cross. And in that sense, it was separate but equal, right? In the sense that you lived on one part of the line, even in a city like Chicago, Chicago's always been very back then hyper segregated.”

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  29. “It was very new, so we moved to the countryside, it was very rural, sugarcane everywhere, coffee, very rural, very agricultural. I was a city kid from Chicago, cement, right? Asphalt kid. There was one radio station. I learned to like the music because it was, you know, people have to understand this was before MTV and radio and FM and all of the technology today that provides you with music and entertainment and news. So it was very different. I got shut off. So I would say that those, so my two years of high school, my first two years of college at the University of Puerto Rico, there's a lot of things that happen that there is a void, right? Because this is like a history of the United States and things that happened here that I didn't, it wasn't in the news.”

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  30. “It's a good thing they can't see the spile and the smirk on your face. Yeah, so in seventh, eighth grade, I was misbehaving in sixth grade. So I went to St. Michael's High School, not far from here, grade school and high school.”

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  31. “So I went to public school through sixth grade, and my parents did what a lot of parents do when you misbehave in sixth grade. Seventh, eighth grade.”

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  32. “No, so in Chicago we had the classic bilingual household. My parents only spoke Spanish, and I responded to them in English, and they understood my English, I understood their Spanish, and in that sense we were bilingual. But unfortunately, at some point, you have to say something in Spanish. And just because you've heard it for 15 years doesn't mean you can speak it”

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