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  1. “You thank you to you. And sometimes I hope this fire doesn't consume me. That's how much it is, but I am grateful to you for this. And yeah, thank you for, I know you don't do a lot of these, you know, I am. This type of interviews, maybe I don't know, but I'm so, so happy.”

    2022-08-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #311 – Magatte Wade: Africa, Capitalism, Communism, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. “Michael and I would spend hours talking about all of these ideas and I would be like, but what about this? No, it doesn't make any sense. No, no, no, oh no. And then hours every single day for months lex. And then from there, our love was born. Because I tell people, for us, love is not about the case of NDIS. Like, you know, we all think, but it's about we look in one direction. And in this case, it's this vision, what we know to be possible and true. If only you liberate people. What we know to be true and possible. We, all of us are miracles walking around. Every time I get on a plane, it's a miracle of engineering. All the things we're able to do, you know, now when they do operational new teeth, how they're able to put the pain down away all of this is us. You're working on these robots. This inside here”

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  3. “They do. They do. I live the world I live in. The new centers of culture and fashion are in Dhaka. The new centers of tech and crypto even is somewhere maybe Nigeria”

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  4. “They have an excuse. We didn't know better. It was so easy back then to conflate everything. But today, you, me, anybody alive cannot with a straight face embrace Marx's socialist ideas, especially, especially. They're claiming that they want people to thrive. No, you can't. I'm sorry. And I will hold your feet up to the fire on that one. I will. I will, and that's what I'm doing. They will give me a lot of grief for this, but guess what? I could care less. Do you know why I could care less Because we have an entire population. Help rise out of property, into prosperity where they become co creators, global co creators of innovation.”

    2022-08-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #311 – Magatte Wade: Africa, Capitalism, Communism, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  5. “Put yourself in their shoes and try to understand the time at which they were living, and that got me onto a journey of trying to understand history more. That's how I understood. I was able to go beyond just these liberators and try to understand and rebuild the world around them. At the micro and also at the macro level. Just really, you have to try to walk in their shoes. From there, finally separate the baby with a bath water, but they were not able to do back then. That's why today, I'm sorry, but I have no patience for the BLM organizers, founders, especially founders. I don't know what the organizers think, but the founders told us what they stand for. And I say, guys, don't make that same mistake again. If you're serious about this, you cannot make that same mistake. Liberators of Africa”

    2022-08-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #311 – Magatte Wade: Africa, Capitalism, Communism, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  6. “Liberation came upon me. Like, I have no other word to describe that True liberation, deliberation that comes from a peer, to finally Understand and be vindicated in your own You know, in your own deep knowing or feeling that Not what they're saying is not true. You're not the problem. It's not you. There's something else. And when I discovered that, my whole life changed. And since then, I've been very serious about going deeper and deeper and deeper into my understanding of all of this. Understanding the subtlety, at some point I was very angry about the liberators of Africa because I was like, yes, you helped liberators, but just to keep us in this marriage. I was angry for the longest time. And then eventually you have to engage empathy and love.”

    2022-08-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #311 – Magatte Wade: Africa, Capitalism, Communism, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  7. “The free market is like this thing that I was sensing, this environment that I was sensing, that it was different around me. And that they called it the free markets over here and over there that. And then I started to butt-head those ideas with the ideas that I was fed with before that. And the evidence won. And furthermore than the evidence, the evidence combined with my lived experience, it was so powerful. I basically started understanding these ideas from the most visceral part of my body, you know, of my being. And it makes sense. So, Michael, Michael helped me find the solution, the answer to my lifelong little girl's question of why do they have this and we don't? And how do some countries like mine be poor while others are rich? And with understanding all of that? The greatest biggest”

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  8. “And then there was a program where it was all about accelerating women entrepreneurs. So it's during those times that I'm starting now to see things. That's when actually all of this stuff that I noticed, how come here it takes me all of this time to start my business over the next 20 minutes, here it's free, over there's thousands of dollars, all of this nonsense that I just took all maybe just because we messed up. We're poor. That's why everything is so messed up. Whoa, these people are introducing me to concepts. I'm like, first of all, I'm like, oh, really? What did you call that doing business in the... What is that? You know, all of this stuff. And I'm starting to discover this whole other body of work.”

    2022-08-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #311 – Magatte Wade: Africa, Capitalism, Communism, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  9. “Michael, somebody found out about what I was doing because back in the days in San Francisco, they would write a lot about me and everything. So Michael, along with John Mackey, the founder of Whole Foods Market, they had a non-profit called Flow. And it's all about human flourishing. They want for people, everybody to get this choice, this ability to be able to get to a point in their life where they're in complete flow. It's Mikhail. Michael is the only one who can say that last name. But the whole concept of flow when you're in a state of flow, you're basically doing what you're supposed to do, the way you're supposed to do it with the people, this whole concept of flow. It's amazing. It's really been flourishing at this highest. So, you know, so I mean.”

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  10. “And I knew that my people didn't need grants, they didn't need a handout. They don't want your charity. I didn't want charity. I wanted someone who could work with me on my accounting. I wanted somebody who could help me brainstorm marketing-wise. I wanted somebody, or I needed to raise money to pay my research and development guy to help me, you know, take the juices from my grandma's recipe to something that can be shelf stable. If you're going to, I needed coaching. These are all the things that I needed to make my dream happen. I didn't want you to give me some crap for free. That's not what I want. I just want to be able to build my business with all the things that business building needs. And so that's what I wanted to do. And it's what it was needed. And so.”

    2022-08-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #311 – Magatte Wade: Africa, Capitalism, Communism, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  11. “After having built my first business, and all I wanted was an ability to power as many, especially women, African women entrepreneurs like me a few years ago, before then, to do something like I was able to do, bring back to the world some really cool aspects of our culture built into a really cool brand, 21st century type. That's what I wanted to do because the more I could promote women like that and put steam behind them, and the more my dream envisioned for a respected Africa, prosperous Africa would happen back then that's what I wanted. And around me, this was also part of a whole crisis of ideologies I had back then, everybody was like, well, we should be just doing grants.”

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  12. “Is so special. So you have no idea how special it is. But Michael, the reason why I have such love, respect and admiration for my husband, I'll never say it enough is because actually it's one of those relationships that got built based on Intellect first. You see At some point, I was in the position where I could start a foundation.”

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  13. “My current husband, my current husband. Love. See, when I tell you love is the answer. But him, he came with love, but he also came with really helping me figure out the world. So what Michael, because it's him who we're talking about, Michael Strong”

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  14. “Right. And then you're confused. And then you become confused. And then at some point you lose 90% of your friends because of ideologically speaking it doesn't work anymore. Then you just wonder. Have I been asleep this whole time? And then you start to wonder. Remember when you asked me, Who am I? At some point, Lex, I literally was like a candle in the wind. I felt like I was a Candle Linda. And it was very hard to come back from that. And people have a hard time. The few people I talk to about this, they have the hardest time understanding or even believing it because they're like, you're like, yes, me. I used to be a candle in the wind.”

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  15. “To just start to see all of this, I tried to address it to realize that many of these people would prefer go running for the hills than except for a moment that maybe capitalism might be part of a solution. When many of them were involved in capitalism. So that was a hard time. At some point, I was so many things were happening around that time that basically shook up Everything for me. One is hard to talk about because it's very personal and the person that I was having a problem with passed away last year. And I'm one to always say leave a dead alone. So because of that, I won't speak about it, but there too, having a major fallout with somebody who was like a fabio figure for me, somebody that I completely trusted. And so at some point you just ask yourself, was my whole life built on a lie?”

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  16. “Exactly right, so you understand me. And you were just, I was just hanging onto it. My life depended on this thing. So these women, they carried me. They carried me. And with time, Things are moving forward, and at some point I went into a really, really deep depression, even darker than the one I think I came from. Because by that time, I had worked for years on this company and now some other things were happening. And around that time, it's also when I was discovering a lot of what we talked about today, about what makes the country rich. And for me to understand that My network, I was very much into left-oriented network.”

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  17. “I would travel, I would do three states in three days, lending a twin in the morning around five or six, going to ride along with our distributors because it was beverage and just keep going and have all of this energy and look like everything is fine. But what happened was just like I was focused on the job to be done. And sometimes it is okay to do that, at least for me, it was my safety, you know, like when you're in the water and you're about to sink and they throw you that round thing. I don't know how you call it, you know.”

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  18. “And that's what I would tell people who feel like they can't just push one more push. And they think they need to end it. At that point, whatever it takes, just stick around for one more second because the next second, you know, so I stuck around because of duty. I felt a very strong sense of duty. My duty was in this case, I think, stronger than my pain. I don't know if I don't know how that was possible, but it was. And I just pushed my grief under a rug for years. For years, I worked like a mad lady.”

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  19. “I think for me when my person passed away, I went to the Maybe my friend could see what was going on, maybe they couldn't. I don't know. But on the surface, I looked like I was fine. But what happened is the only thing I think that kept me around as I thought about it was Job to be done These women relied on me. And I was no longer free. I did not own myself. And they said it in those words. You don't own yourself anymore And it was true, but it helped me because I was able to You know, sometimes”

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  20. “And when it comes to that recipe, we have the hardest part of it. One missing ingredient, which is the free markets. As we go around and talk, People start to understand, and each country tries to figure out, okay, where do we go there from here? I know that I will die with my continent having taken Right shift for return. I don't have to see where it ends because I cannot in my wildest dream imagine where it's going to end. But I know it's going to be Yeah, so all my only job It is to get this message out and then let my people do with it what they want to do.”

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  21. “That can be fixed. And that's the beauty of it. And that's why I am so almost dizzy with, I get dizzy with hope. I know my history. I know my economics. Fellow humans and all of that, and we know that there's an unfailing recipe.”

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  22. “Everything that's wrong with us that pot that we put around us. So we're tired of being bonsai people. We need to be the tallest trees in the forest that we were designed to be.”

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  23. “Its hips all over the place all the time, and it's more jumping, stuff like that. In Rwanda, you feel it's more like, you know, me, they remind me more of a ballet thing. Rwandans have a sense where, you know, they don't eat in so much in public. It's not very well. It's something you do. Us, the West Africans, we like to be loud. We're almost like the Italians of the continent. Even looks like a Switzerland I mean, we're so different from one group to another. Then you go to the Congo and you see these guys, they're so crazy. We have a dress. I mean, les sapur. So we are a very different bunch. But, you know, what I love about us, what I love about my people. We are the manifestation of what resiliency means. So, everything we need is there. Everything we need is there I will say that there's nothing wrong with the seed.”

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  24. “So, everything else we can handle, and we will handle, you have to mark my word for this. This is going to happen. And our youth is amazing. You should see them. So full of creativity. And it doesn't matter. You know, you were telling me what makes you different. Many things makes us all different. You know, Verondans are very different from the West Africans that we are. Rondans, for example, never dance with their hips. They dance more like, you know, with this part of a body.”

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  25. “Exactly, and it has such ingenious people. You know, sometimes I look at my people. Have to tell you I'm so proud of him. And the young people especially. And, you know, he would look at them. And, you know, somebody said sometimes one day, and it was so true. They said, you know, we've seen poverty other places. But here it is just maybe somebody doesn't have money, but they have dignity. And it's true.”

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  26. “It's the continent where everything started, and I think it's the continent where that continent has to finally, finally, finally thrive. We cannot, all of us call ourselves an enlightened society as a whole when you have this, it's a humongous continent. Have you seen the size of it?”

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  27. “Everybody. But this is hard because it's the first time. So, but the good news is there are many groups working on the continent. There are some groups in Zambia, there is a zone there. Folks are doing something like this in Nigeria. We're part of a project there in Nigeria. The one that I'm most excited about, I cannot disclose the name of the country yet, but my God, I'm so excited by it. And I just know. I just know Lex, it's going to happen in our lifetime.”

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  28. “A lip frog. A lip frog. Exactly. So for me, this is a promise. And people are like, oh, but you guys are crazy. But I'm like, Just like with everything, do you know how many attempts it took before the first flight of the Wright brothers took off? Do you know how many? And that's important. You try, you crash, you try, you crash, but each time you're going up higher, and once you get up for once, then you stay up longer. And before you know it, you're doing all types of things. So here's the same thing. I tell people. Listen, all I need is one success story. Then the seat change. People don't even wait for us.”

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  29. “Yes. Yes. Does something like that happen without problems? Of course not. And so the next person to do something just actually gets to learn from lessons from lessons. That's all.”

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  30. “Know, I know some people are like, You guys are crazy, but A, I'm like, no, it's more or less the story of, you know, the Asian tigers. And most recently, most of China's progress, economically speaking, because some people might say, well, you don't want China with developing, you see, and it's okay. You can always do better, but we cannot deny what the magic that they have accomplished. What they have accomplished is nothing short of a miracle. 800 million people getting out of poverty in such a short amount of time.”

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  31. “It can not only spread, but maybe let's say Senegal. If Senegal was to go for this, here you have this one, and then over there you have another zone. And then what they start to do is they're not all modeled the same way. Because maybe this one is saying, hey, we want to attract more, I don't know, maybe we want to attract more medical research, right? This one is going to be saying maybe we want to attract more crypto, or maybe it's going to be more like us, we want to be more about religious or whatever. You know what I mean? So we want it to fit more this or that. And just kind of give the basics, the grounds, and then watch the magic happen on it, right? And so this is what we're working on. Because some people are like,”

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  32. “It's you know, you get in freely, or nobody's forcing you to go, nobody's forcing you to whatever. So basically you're to think about this rather unoccupied plot of land within a country. Think Dubai on 110 acres of land, Dubai is thinking that in their case they're like maybe they decided maybe Sharia is not the best for business in their case. And they said they looked around and were like, wow, but common law, especially British common law, seems like a very good one. So at that point, they decided for business only, not family or anything like that, which is going to stand the sharia or whatever. And so they said, we are going to bring in, you know, so they hired retired British common law judges to educate the law and train the people under there. And I'm oversimplifying, but at the end of the day within a generation, Dubai.”

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  33. “Literally every day on the continent. There's a discrepancy here. And so the ticking bum is going faster than the process we can make. This is a problem. So what some of us are working on is this concept of startup cities and to say peacemakers. How about we continue doing that work, which is essential and critical, but at the same time, can we think of zones? And I like to call them also common law zones, where we basically try to have within the country an area where for business, I'm not talking about family law or any of that stuff, no one is touching your culture or anything like that, but we're just saying business-wise, an enclave where you have the best practices from around the world, including yours, in terms of what constitute a great business environment, and allow people in.”

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  34. “Latest, the most recent China with the SEZs, the special economic zones, some of the most radical free market zones in the world, they've done it. And oftentimes within a generation, meaningful change starts to happen, right? So here what I'm working on is this concept of some call it charter cities, Paul Romer, others call it Free cities, and I like to call it startup cities. What these are is for us to think about, okay, if piecemeal legislation takes forever, while we have this demographic that's growing faster and faster in Africa, there is a discrepancy here between the progress we're making to set the right environment for business to prop up, and how many more people are coming to life.”

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  35. “Crop has happened over here. More laws have been pounded up because you know how they fix a bad law most of the time. Wherever it's in the US somewhere else, put other laws to kind of undo the law from before, but it keeps stacking up. And before you know it, where you should have one thing and it's clear, you have 100 and they go against each other and then it's worse. So we have piecemeal legislation but happening. Our teams are doing really amazing, fantastic work, especially the team in Imani in Ghana. We have a group in Burundi and the Great Lakes. I mean, people are doing amazing work. Amazing work. But we need to run faster. So while we help them running faster, we also have to unlock other things. And right now I'm working on one of my most craziest projects, something bold, radical, crazy for some people. But I know we're not crazy because before Singapore has done it. You know, Hong Kong has done it.”

    2022-08-13 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #311 – Magatte Wade: Africa, Capitalism, Communism, and the Future of Humanity · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  36. “Yes, yes, yes. So some are going to be built stuff. Offers are going to work on the reforms. So we're working on reforms, by the way. I'm the head of the Africa Center for Prosperity of the Atlas Network, the largest organization in the world working on taking down barriers of entry for entrepreneurs around the world in their respective countries. So we're doing great work there. I basically all the think tanks we have in Africa right now, free market think tanks, and we want to promote more of them to come up. And these are local solutions by local people for their local problems, always. That's where we draw the line. And so there, so we're working on reforms primarily and making people understand the free markets and the importance of it. But it is piecemeal legislation. It takes time. It is hard. By the time you accomplish something here,”

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  37. “So that they build all the wealth that your nation is going to need you to build. And with it, the respect that comes from that. See, we have a choice to make, and this is why I feel so, so, so restless about this at this point of my life. We just lost George Hayte. George AD is one of the few Africans that I knew who Who put this out? That's why I learned from. He's gone. And I feel a strong sense of urgency to not only bring back to the table that which he has been working on. To also make sure that it gets steam. That's why being here talking with you today. You have no idea People ask if someone like you could have said, What can I do? You did more than you could ever imagine by just allowing me to take this message to one more person. And because if we do this The change is going to happen somewhere down the line.”

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  38. “And if I help this, if I make sure that this kid gets a chance to flourish and to manifest his genius or her genius, that trickled down many years later comes straight back to serve me and the love of my life. If we can't see any other way, maybe let's try to think about it that way, because it becomes a very good proposition at that point. So in this case, by 2050, Lagos, Nigeria will be the largest city in the world. Future is African, wherever we want it or not. But is it going to be an African future where you have a youth being a ticking bomb? Because they have not, you know, there's no hope in poverty because they belong to nations that don't even understand sometimes the importance of common law versus civil law. Because they're trapped in countries that don't understand that”

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  39. “Yourself in it. Maybe engage your selfishness. Because this person right there, remember I told you 7 billion geniuses. Everybody came to this world with a piece of solution to the human problem. This person and that person and that person. Hold something for me because I'm part of humanity. This person might have a cure. To a cancer that might take my wife out, the wife I haven't met yet, but this kid right here has it inside.”

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  40. “That's not an option. So the only option we have left is to make sure that people partake. And what partaking means is that people get included in them and are part of the systems that allow for human flourishing. And it's not much. In this case, it's about can we be serious about the reforms. So we have free market zones, areas where people with a flourishing can start to take place. The That people will need to flourish. They don't need you to give it to them. But it's all about, can I let you fly? And you will make it happen for you and also for me. Every young African I see today, I realize how stupid the rest of the world is if they're not supporting what I'm trying to talk about. Because even if you don't want to do it because that's the right thing to do, which I think it is the right thing to do.”

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  41. “And what it takes to partake is not much. So, if the rest of the world thinks that get to partake means, you have to send more foreign aid, you have to have more charity businesses organizations sending stuff away, of course. You're almost thinking parasites. I'm sorry to say it this way. If this is what you're thinking, you're seeing us as no more than parasites. And if that's what it's going to be, I could see why some people might be worried about that. Humans should never be seen as parasites, no matter, no matter. But some people will go there Now People are here Are we going to do dispose of”

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  42. “There's a reason, Lex, why I say I'm haunted. But I'm obsessed I'm monomaniacal when it comes to the free markets and that I have such a strong sense of urgency to the point that literally it is affecting me. And it has to do with the fact that, yes, you have the youngest region on earth in terms of the age of its population and the rate at which it's growing demographic-wise. I am not willing to stay there and say it's a curse for humanity, but it will be a curse for humanity if we don't make sure that these people Gets to partake”

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  43. “Instead, exactly. This should have been just like how the rest of the world, when COVID happened and China had to close off for different reasons, and since then has not completely reopened, and people have started to realize, wow, we've got too much, we're too dependent on China for a lot of what we need. So we're going to have to bring back some production to the US. The Europeans are doing the same, all of that. This should have been a time for African leaders to be like, we need to be serious now about food security. And maybe the stuff maybe don't grow under our climate necessarily. Can we work on coming up with different things? Now, I understand that it can take time, but if I knew that that was happening at the same time that we're saying, oh, well, let the serials come in, maybe I would be a little bit easier with it. But right now, I'm just like, is it going to be the same business as usual? And in this case, I'm just like,”

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  44. “Well, but except in this case, yes to all of that and the reason why I'm actually upset with going and being like, oh, can you let at least the boats that are supposed to come to Africa full of cereals come over, the wheat and all that, it's just like, look, Africa has the highest land that you can do agriculture on. We have a larger surface, such surface in the world. Why is this not a time for us to try to win ourselves off of cereals that we don't necessarily have on the ground? But no, let us go and plead.”

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  45. “When it comes to an African president having to do that with a non-African president, I'm sorry, but for me, it's too close to begging.”

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  46. “We don't want to be always siding because we're tired. We're tired of always being dragged around and taken for granted and you vote our way. Come on, guys, when you need us, we're great and everything is good. And then when it's time to go and share the goodies, we don't exist anymore. And you actually go for policies that go against us. But in this situation, though, I would like to still see us do the right thing. In my case, I was not very happy to see us going and more or less begging for, you know, What do you call it? Cereals. You know, oh, please let the cereals make it so at least we get them and we don't starve. I can understand why a president would say something like that or try to negotiate something like that.”

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  47. “Touching this. Yeah, especially given usually. So when they need us again for influence, which means more power, oh, you guys vote the same way we do. And when it's all over and they go back to spreading, you know, they go back to, how do you say that? They go back to exchanging and sharing between themselves the goodies of, you know, their Halloween collection We're not there when the goodies are being shared. So I think it's definitely one of those situations. But for me, it still is hard because I watch everything that's going on. And I It's going to be complicated for ramifications of all of this. I would like to see our African leaders also what they're doing is clear, but this is a place where I almost tempted to say Yes, and Yes to the reasons you're advancing right now.”

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  48. “Stand on their own as well. It's like, you're not, don't tell us what to do as usual. You always rope us in with when it makes sense for you, you try to rope us in, and then we're left hanging on our own. So this goes back to the sentiment you were talking about earlier. It's been challenging Me To watch this, because remember, I have one foot also, you know, like because there is what I get to see and hear. Being in the Western world, but there is also what I get to see and hear from when I'm in the back home. So I wear all hats And I think this is a situation where the African Union and African nations in general are saying, We don't it's this is a case where almost like you guys are fighting Guys are fighting maybe for once we have to watch out for ourselves.”

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  49. “Well, you've seen that many countries, when it was time to vote, some of them have abstained, you know, which in a way says something. I think for the Africans today, especially as represented by the African Union, because not all countries fall under the along the same lines. I feel like again we're back to way back. For the longest time, the West tries to tell us what to do. Decide for us. And here There's trouble, meaning there's definitely a rift, major one between most of the Western world as represented by Europe and America primarily. You have Australia and all that. And then they're saying, you know, I think this is more or less an attempt to”

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  50. “Have a heart for the lesser fortunate among us for whatever reason. That's easy, but to have a mind for them, that's the challenge.”

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