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Mandy Patinkin

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  1. He was more politically active and he ran like you, he ran Abner McVeigh's first campaign, I believe. Yeah. Oh, wow. And so we were at those events for Abner Mikva, which means we were Democrats. Yes.

    2020-10-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 416 — Mandy Patinkin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. Well, I'm sure they voted, but I didn't know about it because I never heard about it. Their life was the synagogue, and that's all I ever heard was sisterhood and men's club So, when I met Catherine and she said, Well, were your parents, Republicans, or Democrats? I said, I don't know. I think they were sisterhood and men's club is all I know they were. I do know that they did have, when I traced it back, there was activity because Uncle Schmuley, my dad's younger brother

    2020-10-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 416 — Mandy Patinkin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  3. It's so similar to politics. What goes around that baseball dinner table is what goes around the political baseball dinner table too. And you inherit your parental beliefs, I believe. And it's a very interesting journey if you can root free your own team somewhere else along the line or not even be interested in maybe baseball but football or basketball or some other sport.

    2020-10-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 416 — Mandy Patinkin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  4. And the other irony was So we had this love of, you know, I had the love of watching him love baseball. And I forgot where I was going. Go ahead.

    2020-10-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 416 — Mandy Patinkin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  5. How to walk again. So he had a note written down that he carried with him whenever he drove her in the car because he couldn't walk a straight line if a cop asked him to walk a straight line. He would stumble. I'd always be on his left side because he would stumble while we're walking. But the thing that killed him the most was he loved baseball. And we went to Kamiski Park every Saturday, every Shabbos after the synagogue. We were in synagogue and High Park Boulevard congregation wrote for Isetic right near where Obama lives. And we went right from there to Komiski Park every Saturday and watched the ball game. And what killed my dad more than anything was he couldn't play catch with me because he learned how to write and walk with the opposite hand, walk okay, talk okay, but he couldn't control the speed of that ball and he was worried he was going to hurt me.

    2020-10-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 416 — Mandy Patinkin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  6. He did the impossible. He broke his neck when he dove into Lake Michigan as a 20-year-old. And then in 42, he was in San Antonio, Texas in the Army and working in the pharmacy. He was made a pharmacist mate. And he had these headaches. And it was the spinal tube from the neck break that was closing and keeping the spinal fluid from coming to his brain. So he had to have an operation where they had to put in a little metal tube to bring the spinal fluid to the brain and they called his mom and dad, Grandpa Max and Grandma Celia, and said, he may not make it. It's a 50% chance. It was a new operation. Today it would be nothing. And indeed, they touched the wrong thing and he was paralyzed for three years. So he was a right-handed guy and he had to learn how to write with his left.

    2020-10-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 416 — Mandy Patinkin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  7. Well, I was as close as I could be. First of all, I was pretty manic as a kid and pretty, you know, like, you know, I remember I have one piece of tape recording from my dad, which I love hearing his voice. And it's so ironic what he's saying. I'm saying something at the table, and he goes, many, what are you doing? And it's exactly like that. And I just went, but every day, you see, my dad had...

    2020-10-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 416 — Mandy Patinkin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  8. Was in the hospital for something, and we were little, and he was taking us over to have lunch. He said, we're going to tell mom we had lunch. I said, but daddy, we didn't have lunch. He said, I know, I know, I know, but mom will worry if I didn't give you lunch. So it's called a white lie. I said, what? He said, it's a white lie. And so I just, as a kid at 18, I was robbed of being honest with my father at the end. He was no dummy. He knew that he did the research on hepatitis in 30 seconds, and he knew this wasn't what was going on. And so there I was wanting to finally calm down my crazy kid energy and just be them to just talk about whatever he needed.

    2020-10-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 416 — Mandy Patinkin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  9. I think people are afraid of the truth. I think they're afraid in the same way that when my father got pancreatic cancer, the doctors and my mother because of the previous illness my father had said don't tell daddy he has cancer they're worried he'd hurt himself or take his life or not want to be able to deal with it and so they told this seventeen eighteen year old Mandy you know we're going to tell daddy has hepatitis so you teach you know you you teach that the lie is better than the truth and that's wrong. It's profoundly wrong. It informed the rest of my entire life so that the word truth has become the beacon of my existence to a fault so that if I don't feel that I'm being truthful literally with you or to my public or to the work or to my children, that I don't deserve to exist. Now that's not fair either. You know, sometimes as my dad said when my mom

    2020-10-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 416 — Mandy Patinkin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  10. Yes, they did. They came from Eastern Europe, and I thought originally that it was my Grandpa Max came, I thought, in 1905. He actually came after his brother came here. And he came to be with his brother. Then his brother went back to Eastern Europe and ended up being killed in a robbery, and the whole family was killed. But I'd recently learned that a lot of the family was lost in the Holocaust, and I hadn't been aware of that because that was hidden from many people in our family for a long time. And we always thought that, well, not that many Patinkins were lost in the Holocaust, but it's not why was it hidden?

    2020-10-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 416 — Mandy Patinkin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  11. I just had to say to myself, Mandy, you did the best you can. Now let it go and letting it go is like Climbing Everest at times. But if you don't let it go, you can end up with a zero-sum game.

    2020-10-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 416 — Mandy Patinkin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  12. Fairly acute And I'll fight it to the end of my last breath because, you know, I think that, and that comes from insecurity, but I think that insecurity and that desire to try to do your best is defined and labeled as being a perfectionist. So it's a double-edged sword. It also makes you strive to do the best you can. And it also is costly. And so I'm trying to say to all of us as Obama said so beautifully, I think in Pennsylvania, the days are getting washed. Just a few days ago, that we moved it forward. We do the best we can. We didn't get it all right, but we got it better. And that's all you can do. And my teacher always said to me, just do the best you can. And that became my mantra, you know, that whatever the day was like, whether family or work.

    2020-10-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 416 — Mandy Patinkin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  13. And Larry, I knew that I was about to go to Europe to begin filming. And he said, well, you know, I wrote one of those scripts. Oh, I said I didn't know that. He said, yeah, you know the thing about her? I said, what, Larry? And he said, you know, she's a perfectionist. And she just can't get it through her head that that's the only thing in life you can't achieve. And I've spent the rest of my life trying to remember those words.

    2020-10-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 416 — Mandy Patinkin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  14. A long time ago, I was shooting the movie Yental. I was just getting ready to, and you know this wonderful writer named Larry McMurtry. So he was a mutual friend of a friend of ours. Our kids were little. He came over for dinner. And I've been working with Barbara Streisand for quite a while on trying to get the script the way she'd like it and doing my research and sharing it with her. And I think she had, I thought I heard 23 different versions of the script. It's either 13 or 25. I think it's like 23.

    2020-10-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 416 — Mandy Patinkin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  15. Well, he has his rough days too. Clearly, all of us that try to do that, and especially entertainers, why do we entertain? I think we're entertaining because we're trying to get ourselves out of the black hole. We're trying to wake ourselves up.

    2020-10-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 416 — Mandy Patinkin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  16. And we can get very heavy and very serious, and Catherine is incredibly knowledgeable and very political, and certainly the teacher in our family. But Gideon has adopted, you know, we're all entertainers at the end of the day. And Gideon is maybe one of the most serious in the family about causes and needs of being an activist to bring attention to those who need attention paid. And yet he is ruthless about having fun. If you wake up in the morning and he says, how you doing, Mom? How are you doing? I'm okay. What do you mean you're okay? What do you mean just okay? You're alive. You woke up. It's a beautiful day. Come on. He has no patience for just being, I'm okay.

    2020-10-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 416 — Mandy Patinkin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  17. Mark was one of my closest friends. We had a father's group that I began right after he finished one of the Olympics. Our kids were all in kindergarten together. And Mark got melanoma, and his son and my son are best friends, oldest friends, and he kept himself alive until Catherine and I got back from wherever we were traveling. We came to his bedside and his nurse gave him a spoonful of morphine, and he sat up in bed and he got all his strength together and he looked at these two cuckoo friends of his and he looked at us and knew us well and he said these words have fun. And they are easily said and hard to achieve. And so those are the big words pasted everywhere in our hearts and minds and our family.

    2020-10-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 416 — Mandy Patinkin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  18. Said, you know why it's so wonderful because you feel the love. And I think you feel the love he meant through Gideon. And my God, you know, all of us as parents, I don't think there's anything we wish for more than our kids want to be with us for just even a second question. That actually has been a gift.

    2020-10-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 416 — Mandy Patinkin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  19. Well, we're not trying to do anything. We are literally just behaving, as Catherine and Mandy. And Gideon, as many wise children in their family, have watched us and feel that he has had a desire to share aspects of us with other people, whether it's the absurd aspect or the heartfelt aspect. So it is really through the eyes of our children that you are seeing what they see and what they choose to see. And as you can hear in the family videos, it's really Gideon's question. He just very interestingly has chosen to be off camera, sort of like that 50s TV show with the millionaire who gives you the check at the beginning and you never see him and wonder who is. And yet you hear his voice and you hear his, I guess, a friend of ours said something that touched Catherine and I deeply.

    2020-10-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 416 — Mandy Patinkin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  20. Was killed and we felt it was inappropriate to have the amusing family video. So we began posting with the help of our children, Isaac and Gideon organizations that needed attention and fundraising to heighten awareness of systemic racism in our country and maybe trying to turn that around. From the moment that the social media started having success, all three of us, Catherine Gideon and myself, were aware that, my God, if this is bring an eyeballs to our social media, if we can keep growing these eyeballs, we've got the election coming in September and October, you know, the crunch months. And we could start working to get people out to vote. So we just kept doing whatever Gideon and his good friend Ewen Wright, who's our director for the videos, would suggest and put it out there. And then we started mixing back in the family videos.

    2020-10-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 416 — Mandy Patinkin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  21. That was really kind of sweet. And can I put it on your social media? I said, well, I don't know how to do it. He said, no, I can figure it out. And I said, yeah, go ahead, put it on there. I don't care. And his thinking was at the time to anything we can do maybe to grow the numbers to bring more eyeballs to the refugee crisis. And I said, sure. And so he puts it on and it kind of goes through the roof. Everybody loves this story of Catherine and I talking about having a fight on our anniversary. And then he continues filming us. We don't even know he's filming us half the time. He's got a camera on one of these. Yeah, at the dinner table. And we just made a deal. We said, listen, nothing goes on without mom and me saying okay. And he starts putting it out there and it catches and people are enjoying it. And it's just family at home. And then down the road, George Floyd.

    2020-10-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 416 — Mandy Patinkin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  22. I went to Lesvos, Greece with the International Rescue Committee to start paying attention and listening to the needs of refugees. At that time, they said I should go on social media. So I said, okay, and they helped me out with it and I didn't know how to upload or download or inload or outload. And so we grew it and we did it all toward informing people about the refugee crisis and continue to do that. And so Gideon was walking down the road with us, my son, my young son Gideon. He was quarantining, but we could take walks on the road when he came back to be with us. And it was our anniversary the day before, so it had to be April 17th. And we're walking down the road. We stop in front of the yellow Forsythia. And he takes out his cell phone, which he often does because he likes to record family moments. And he says, so, you know, what's going on? And somehow we say it was our anniversary. And then Catherine goes and we had a fight. We had a big fight. And then we talk about the fight and how we love each other and everything. And he finishes it. He comes to us a day or so later. He says,

    2020-10-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 416 — Mandy Patinkin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  23. Well, I knew nothing about social media until twenty fifteen when I went we were filming homeland in Berlin and I think it was the fifth season. I'm not sure, I'm pretty sure. And it was right at the time, the very first episode took place in a Syrian refugee camp. And it was at the exact moment that 125,000 refugees were trying to get across the Balkan route to get to Germany for sanctuary. And I looked at these photographs in the newspaper as I just arrived in Berlin and was starting to shoot that day in the fictional world of homeland and the real world was passing in front of my eyes. I thought those are my ancestors. That's my grandparents. And those kids are me and my unborn children. And I just, oh my God, I have to be with them. And I had six months of shooting to do. And the minute I finished that last shot, I got on the plane and I went to...

    2020-10-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 416 — Mandy Patinkin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  24. Good to see you, David. Thanks for having me. Oh, David, I just saw you tip your head down a little bit. Yes, I wore this for you. You're wearing a white socks head. You're not just me, David, but my dad. I know, I know about this. I'm going to.

    2020-10-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 416 — Mandy Patinkin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  25. being a participant in your democracy if you give a about democracy you have no excuse not to participate in saving the shit out of it

    2020-10-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 416 — Mandy Patinkin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  26. That Republican convention was over on Thursday night. I just sat and watched it. I took it in and I woke up the next morning, energized like I'd never been energized in my life. I spoke to Gideon, my son. I spoke to everyone and we know. And I said, let's get going. We called every organization. We said, let's get out every drop of information we can. Let's tell people what they can do. Nobody should be immobilized. Everybody should have something to do. There are ways to write letters. We got AD already printed out, many more coming. There are ways to get out and vote early. You can do that. Yes, he's absolutely right. I mean, you absolutely have so many options. If you don't want to talk to somebody on the phone, write a letter. If you don't like writing, you can in the middle of it. Do a phone call, honey. I'm saying something very important. And you know what? It feels really good. You can have letter writing parties, phone banking parties. The thing is that this is...

    2020-10-29 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 416 — Mandy Patinkin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source