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  1. However, they were quite new to it. I had been like bodybuilding by then for three years or four years maybe even. And so I looked great, right? And so did Jean-Claude and so did Gladys the rest of them? So I would have people come to me, and I'm 18, right? And say, hey, I want to, you know, I want to look like you because I wasn't really bulky. I looked like an Olympic athlete. And so they wanted how I looked. And so I charged them $15 or $20 an hour and do personal training, which, you know, back then, for an 18 year old, it was a lot because minimum wage was probably $350. So I thought, oh, this is amazing. And so I became a personal trainer to, you know, a lot of kind of celebs. And they would then send me to their friend and refer me to this person or that person. And so.

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  2. And I needed to work because I had to, you know, it was like, well, here I am. I'm not going back to Saskatchewan. And so I had to figure out what to do. And the only skill I had at the time was like the body. And so I got a gym membership at this place called Better Bodies, which was on 19th Street between 5th and 6th. And it was the place where kind of everybody who was anybody, you know, back then, like bodybuilding had started to kind of be a thing. You know, everybody's talking about Arnold. I think pumping iron had kind of. Maybe just come out. This was way before Arnold was a governor. And so I went to the gym and Jean-Claude Van Damme worked out there and his wife, Gladys Portuguese, who was also this famous bodybuilder. And then all the kind of cool film directors and fashion designers, whatever, everybody went to this gym.

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  3. I was actually the really disciplined, helpful one, but I think she had just had it. Like by then, she'd been through the death of my dad. And then my older sister, who had moved away quite early, and then my middle sister who, you know, was, I wouldn't say complicated, but she'd been in a couple of car accidents. Like it was exhausting for my mother. By the time I was done high school, I think she was just like, see ya And I don't blame her, right? A single mom, three girls. You must be up to here. So she gave me this bag and I moved and I actually moved in with my sister who was living in New York.

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  4. Yeah, I gotta play at Columbia, and then it didn't work out that year. And I thought, oh, maybe I'll save up and I'll go next year, but here I am in New York. I have $300, right? And my mom, for I was the third of three girls, and the two older ones were a bit of a handful, right? So she gave me for my grade 12 graduation present like a backpack that was also a suitcase.

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  5. I don't have any friends from high school. Yeah, okay. So, did you fit in? Yeah, so. Probably didn't fit in, and it didn't feel like an outcast in any way, shape, or form, but I had not much to talk to them about, right? What they were, what they wanted to talk about at that time just wasn't that interesting to me. So whether or not I was fitting in or not, I just didn't have the same interest, I guess, you know, as the other kids who were maybe able to grow up at a normal pace because of their normal existence.

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  6. Hard to connect to people who haven't, like, you know, when you have that kind of experience early, you grow up very fast. And you know what's important and you prioritize. So it's hard to find anyone to relate to if you have a bunch of teenagers who haven't, right?

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  7. Connect to versus the teenagers who maybe were going through their teenage things. I'd say also, and I've had this conversation with, you know, if you've experienced a death in your family early or if you've had a parent or a sibling who's chronically ill or handicapped, you see life in a very different way, right? So if your father dies when you're 11 and you're in a high school with a group of girls and they're all very catty and you just think really you're not going there. It's not interesting to be part of that kind of crowd. You don't want to talk about those kinds of things. They're not important and you know it because you've been through something profound very early on. Interesting.

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  8. You know what? The gym was also full of adults. And I think I was a young adult. So I probably had more of a mindset of an adult early. I'm not like the most intelligent human being on the earth, but I'm probably. Slightly more intellectual than most of the people that I was in school with. So I found my friends in an environment where there were people working out and being healthy and just older. And so I think that probably had something to do with it too. You had people to talk to there that you could kind of

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  9. Yen and to have that discipline you also have control, right? So if you can control your body, then you could probably control other things. And if you can achieve things with seeing how far you can take it, then it just adds to, I guess, the challenge. You like a bit of a challenge.

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  10. You know, I suppose, again, if you had a therapist come in and say, Oh, why would you do that? It was probably to give some kind of semblance, control, and the ability to achieve something. To my life, which at the time I'm a teenager in a high school in the Melissa Saskatchewan. Was not so hard for me. So, what else am I going to do

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  11. Yeah, it was random. I think it was again. My sister started dating this guy whose brother owned a bodybuilding gym. And he said to me, hey, you should come down to the gym because I was a long distance runner. And, you know, just to kind of let off steam, I think I just love to always go running. And so he said, Oh, you should come down, Miss Canada at the time, like Miss Canada lightweight or featherweight or whatever. She worked out there. And so she put me through the paces and gave me a routine and all this kind of stuff. And I just went because it was something to do.

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  12. I was like a middle weight bodybuilding champion when I was a teenager between the three part time jobs I would then go to the gym at night and you know

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  13. Oh, yeah. So when I moved to New York, it's a long story, but I then moved to New York when I was 18 after my 12th grade. And I got accepted to Columbia University and I was supposed to go, but I didn't have any money. And my sister who lived in New York said, I'll help you out with your tuition. But then she had a little snafu with her income that year. It was like a tax thing or whatever. Again, no big deal. And so I was in New York and I had no money to go to university and it was too late because I was Canadian to get a foreign student loan. So I decided to use the only skill that I had when I was, and I know you can tell this about me, but I was a bodybuilder. I know it's kind of hard to see now.

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  14. Whatever it was, I would just do it because I wanted to take the stress off of her. I didn't want her to think if I wanted, you know, a car or whatever it was that she was going to have to pay for because I knew it was already quite stressful for her to just pay the rent. So I think, you know, you just do whatever is expected of you. And it was fine, right? It's great. It's a skill. It's like a gift in a way you can look at it and just think, well, I developed that skill from 10,000 hours of practice, maybe over a year or two. And it was never hard for me to work again.

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  15. And he learnt to be funny because he wanted her to laugh, and he wanted to see her feel good. And I know there is something about, okay, I'm going to have a paper wrote and I'm going to be a personal trainer or teach aerobics and I'm going to work as a waitress, even though I'm not necessarily old enough to serve alcohol in this establishment.

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  16. Yeah, yeah, well, I had to. I mean, my mother was a secretary. So she didn't have, you know, huge income. At the time, I was probably 11, right? So I didn't ask her, hey, do we have any money? In the bank, you don't really ask those kinds of questions after the death of your parent. But I assumed just from the way that my mother acted that we weren't exactly stable or financially well off. So being, I think the youngest but yet potentially the most responsible of the three sisters, I kind of felt like I had to. herself have you ever watched Jim Carey he actually talks about I mean of course you've watched Jim Carey but there's an interview that he gives where he talks about his mother actually suffered from tremendous depression

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  17. We were not necessarily poor, or you know, but not certainly not comfortable in any way, shape or form. At one point, we moved back to a small town and we kind of lived on the wrong side of the tracks. If there was a wrong side of the tracks, we lived on the wrong side of the tracks in this very small town where my mother's family was from. So you kind of felt like you weren't quite as good as everyone else, but that wasn't fair. And so very likely the idea of this democratization of the good stuff probably comes from that, but I'm sure you could grab any therapist anywhere and they would give you a different version of it.

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  18. And so, most of the businesses that I create are very democratic, bliss even, which was my spa that I created in New York. I mean, we had everybody coming in from like Madonna and Uma Thurman and Oprah, right? But then the 12-year-old kids who had chronic acne and their moms would bring them in to have facials, we treated everybody exactly the same way. I think one of my favorite memories from that was when I was actually giving a facial to one of these 12-year-old kids that her mom had brought it from Boston and Uma Thurman was in the locker room at the same time and helped her open her locker. So she comes into my team room and goes, my thermogen, just help me unlock my locker. It was so cute because, you know, everybody was the same. And that makes me feel great. I think probably some of that experience as a child, not feeling equal, being left out maybe a little bit. We, after my father passed away,

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  19. Would be just terribly depressing, wouldn't it? I guess if you can connect the dots and see your way to something that might be more elevating for your mind and then for others or make something a little bit more fun, you can go deep into the childhood stuff, right? And just think about, I mean, there were situations in my childhood, and it happens to a lot of people. So by no means unique in this respect, but where, for instance, and this would probably be more girls than boys, but at some point in every girl's existence in school, you become the unpopular one, how you feel maybe so much of an outsider when suddenly you're out, and how painful that can be, I think probably in my experience when I was suddenly not cool anymore, probably was really painful for me because I also feel things quite acutely. So trying also to think, well, if other people feel left out, how can you make them feel like they're more a part of something?

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  20. The experience because I was in quite a mediocre setting, lovely setting, but, you know, very average, very, you know, middle Canada. And so that was probably a bit of the stimulation.

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  21. Probably when I was a teenager, that I just needed more stimulation and I needed more than what was there just to, you know, feel fulfilled and keep my curiosity going. Those teenage years, you have a lot of experiences. And apparently what happens during your teenage years because your brain is forming in a very different way and it's starting to sort of solidify, right? Those kinds of experience really stick with you through your whole life. And I remember having several part-time jobs when I was a teenager, all, you know, simultaneously while going to high school and never really finding a job where I thought that the person in charge of the business was doing it well. So I worked at a gym, for instance, and always thought, they could do it so much better if they were just doing this, that, and the other thing. I taught aerobics classes and I thought aerobics was so boring the way it was done and tried to do it in a very different way. So it was more fun for the people who came and just always trying to improve.

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  22. Yeah, I mean, I think that I grew up in a very small town and a small city in Canada at that time was relatively simple. And I always had hunger to learn more and read more and find out more and kind of knew that I didn't really fit in in a small city. So very early on I kind of started to think, well, what can I do and how can I get out of here? But I didn't have much guidance. So my father died early and my mom was not necessarily someone who would help me look at universities, for instance, or say, hey, you should really, your grades are really great. Why don't you study and do this and that? Because she had never done it herself. So no one really in my family guided me. And at that point, there weren't really university counselors or anyone doing that job in high school. At least in Canada. So I think for me, I realized quite early.

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  23. When you have that kind of experience early, you grow up very fast and you know what's important and you prioritize. Another deep question.

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