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1. “I think curiosity is deeply necessary and not in an anthropological sense, but in a what do they know that I don't know? Like showing up and being like go to the shop floor and bring your boots, you know, and bringing that version of empathy, the empathy that shows up, that physically shows up and listens and stop telling people what you think they need, you know, and it's not that you're going there to convince someone to do something, you're trying to figure out You need to figure out what is important to people and how do we get there”

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2. “You know, one example here is like, I think it's actually a pretty impoverished idea of equity that you have achieved equity by having lawyer gobbledygook that you need to navigate to run a small business translated into eight different languages. If I still need a lawyer to run a small business in this country, you haven't done it. That's not it, pal. And so saying like are you respecting people enough to meet them where they are?”

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3. “When people say stuff like, oh, like Democrats are for the little guy, it's like nobody asked you to call me the little guy asshole. Okay, like don't put me in your hierarchy that way. Don't like, you know, you do what you think is right and I'm going to do what I think is right and don't tell me I owe you a favor because you did what you think is right. But yeah, I mean, I think that's the thing. It's like this shift in, I think, what was it, like 46% of Hispanics voted for Trump?”

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4. “Yeah. I mean, look, we own small businesses in the trades. That's the reality. And we're proud of it. In the same way that respect is necessary, not like a prescriptive, paternalistic, we're doing this because, you know, you need our help. No, like you should do it because you think it's the right thing to do. And you doing it because you're You know, when people”

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5. “Does and it's like I also think it's just a fool's errand to ask people to choose between their faith and their politics. I'm a proud Democrat. I also am a Christian. And it is a mistake to, they're not in conflict. And holding both of those things and being a whole person in either context, I'm a Democrat at church. I'm a Christian in our party. And I think they are separate things, right? You know, but I think they're definitely mutually informative should be”

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6. “I, yeah, I think it does. I think it's been. Been really important for me to have, like, you know, I go to the Bible study because I need more Jesus, not because I need more politics. But I think it's really damaging to the whole of dialogue when it's when it becomes one-sided. When we were debating the Farm Bill, somebody quoted a Republican quoted Corinthians where they say, like, he who doesn't work won't eat 1 Corinthians. And I was like, yeah, well, Leviticus also says not to harvest the corners of your fields, you leave it for the widows and the orphans and the bastards. There was a system in place. And you got to look at the whole thing and not to use it, but to be used by it.”

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7. “And it's like the experience of having a child, a young child, it's, you know, when the well system goes out of daycare, like it impacts my family, just like it impacts a lot of Americans, right? And so like having, I don't want to be insulated from the, I could not, I could not do this job well without being while being insulated from the friction of being a parent and living in a rural community. I think it's a necessary part of doing this job. But it does suck being on a plane this much sucks.”

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8. “In rural America. So, yeah, I think really trying to reflect the experience and the urgency and the priorities of ordinary Americans.”

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9. “No, no, my husband and son are like basically feral. Like it would be cruel to put them here. And I don't. I mean, DCs, like my friends are at home, you know, my family's at home, and I'm proud of where I live and I chose to live there intentionally. But like, you know, like my great, great, great grandparents are buried there. Like, you know, it matters to me where I raise my son matters to me. And so it is difficult, but I also think I think there are maybe, maybe 10 members of Congress who have a child in daycare out of 435. And I think it has to be to have a representative body. Like that is how you get agency on things that are reflective of the needs of our country, not, you know, because in my county, there is one licensed daycare facility. Like we drive like four hours a day there and back and there and back to get our child's daycare. And that's kind of normal.”

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10. “I think going back to that, it's like we do what we do because it's who we are. You know, it's not, I'm not here to argue for like a relativistic moral code. It's like, I don't, I don't care what they're doing. I know who I am. And to not, to kind of, you have to hold that center of gravity. And that's what I hear from my constituents, and part of my job is to represent what I'm hearing at daycare drop off, you know, at the grocery store as a member of Congress”

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11. “Their more fundamental argument. So, like, you know, with Hunter Biden's laptop, it was like, I was getting a ton of letters about that. And I think when you lift open the hood on that, What a lot of my constituents were saying was that they feel like there's a different. There's a different justice system if you have money and access to power. And that's something that Democrats agree. And so I think really. Trying to understand what is the moral argument here that you agree with? Delete the celebrity name from it and say, is there a part here that we can work together on being curious and not defensive about it?”

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12. “Yeah, I think there is not a, like, I think respect is sort of at the bottom of the pyramid of human needs, you know. And like, There are a few other members here who I feel like get it too and are with me in this work. And are curious and respectful of. Knowing how to do things, and it's not just that It is not just that somebody Doesn't know how to passly safe a logging truck is that they didn't care enough to learn. You know, it's not the absence of the skill, it's the lack of interest in learning that's kind of the The root, I think, the core of the problem. And there was a really good book, The Art of Logic in an Illogical World, this logician, talks about taking these cultural issues and breaking them down into”

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13. “I can go to any, you know, it's just fun, like getting to go to shop classes and tell kids, like, yeah, like the congresswoman wants to meet you because she thinks you're cool. And, you know, listening to people and with curiosity and humility and figuring out what can I do here? Like what do you, what do you need? Like, what can I do?”

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14. “Well, somebody, actually a Republican colleague was telling me about a sermon they gave recently where they were talking about, you know, everybody thinks about King David as like a king, but everybody forgets that first he was a musician and then he was a shepherd. And that like joy is the first thing that precedes stewardship and stewardship is the foundation of like actual leadership. But you have to have joy. Like you have to have to see what is good, what is worth fighting for. And that is what keeps your head straight. It's not a commitment to like power itself. Like that's corrupting. It is joy at what is good. And, you know, I think really hanging on to that and really celebrating what I love about my community and getting to, I mean, it's crazy. Anybody will let you into their living room now. Like I can go to any.”

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15. “For sure, for sure. It was like, I don't know anybody anything. Like, this is my community sent me here. Like, like my neighbors brought me groceries and doorknocked for me. You know, like this is something that is very homegrown. And like my loyalty and allegiance is like, it was really, it was quite fun. It is fun.”

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16. “David, they chortled at me like they were like somebody was like one of these consultants was like, you have an eight-month-old like hope you never want to see your baby again.”

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17. “No, I could not get a meeting with people in DC to save my life. I mean, actually, Susan Dale Benet was actually the only one that endorsed me pre-primary, which was great, but it was quite difficult to get people to see what I was seeing and seeing the opportunity and possibility here and the urgency of the situation. I was like, you don't understand like this guy is dangerous.”

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18. “For a political agenda, and this is not an agenda that is oriented around our priorities or our values. It's imported from somewhere online. And I had felt that like, you know, a Democrat that is not, I didn't know if I could win, but I knew that I could at least challenge the narrative that all Democrats are these very like urban elite ideologues with, you know, white collar. And I was like, no, we work in the trades. I live on a gravel road. Like, I get my internet from a radio tower. Like, I pump my own gas. Like, you know, I thought I could challenge the cultural narrative that Fox News was putting out to my neighbors.”

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19. “Yeah. Yeah. Well, he also had, I saw this like other specific vulnerability, like besides from being from Portland, was that he, somebody asked that a Republican primary candidate for him to name just three lakes in the district. And we have a lot. And he couldn't do it. I literally could have said Silver Lake, Blue Lake, you know, lava lake. But he couldn't do it. And I was like, this is somebody who's not from here. He's not interested in us.”

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20. “The Yeah, exactly. He ended up getting Trump's endorsement and he was just saying crazy shit online, like we should arrest Fauci for murder, seize Bill Gates' land. You know, we should citizens should have every weapon the U.S. military has. He was talking about, he thought like the elections were stolen. Culp was our real governor, you know, and just completely. But I also saw”

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21. “For Joe Kent, and I was like, Who's this guy? Because I was like, I should, you know, started watching his YouTubes. And I was like, oh my God, he is completely out of touch with who we are. Where did they find this guy? And also.”

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22. “Those county meetings I had seen the local Democrats for Congress coming before who were campaigning and sometimes wearing bow ties. They couldn't say the name of the county they were in, you know. And I think when I went to more urban areas, they were sort of like, oh, this person's God's gift to politics. But I knew that in our rural counties, we didn't have that experience. We felt like they were making the same mistakes that every other kind of national politician was making. And so I saw, I saw after my predecessor, Jamie Herb Butler voted to impeach Trump. It was like blood in the water. Like suddenly everybody was coming to primary her and looking at all the places that had always put up Jamie's Yard signs before started putting up yard signs.”

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23. “Oh, yeah. And our PUDs are really interesting because the basis, they were basically, it was the Grange Halls that they saw their lock systems were getting kind of getting shafted by shipping rates on their grain. And so they were trying to figure out how to get their products to market and they started working on locks, starting into dams, it's turning into public power, it turned into PUDs. I think When you are really motivated by loyalty to where you are and to your neighbors, like you can do some really cool shit. You don't know where it's going to go when it's going in the right direction if it's for your community. But yeah, so I, you know, I've built relationships with people from all different political stripes and I knew who was very religious about putting up yard signs and who, and I had seen it.”

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24. “Cemetery board would have been the next, you know, but. I saw that, like, you know, I really, well, I love beauties. I love our public utility. We have a very cool system in Washington State. We're right by a lot of hydro. And I just think, you know, my degree in college is in economics. And I really love, I just think public utilities are very interesting.”

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25. “I think they were thoughtful, but But it's just a different kind of, there's a famous story about Jimmy Carter actually flying when it flew out to see after the Mount St. Helens explosion. They took a minute helicopter out there to look at it. And they were flying over clear-cut. And he was like, my God, the devastation. They were like, sir, that's a clear-cut, you know? That's the thing. It's like you can't look at it from a helicopter and know what's going on. It's not. Know you need to be like from there. You need to have relationships there.”

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26. “Regard for the local experience. Like, I remember my husband's family is, you know, relatively, they're pretty liberal. And we were like driving out to the coast and we were going past a clear cut. And it was like somebody was like, oh, are these clear cuts are so sad? And he's like, well, actually, like, I think it's. I don't think it's sad. I like to have housing abundance. I think it's sad when people are living in mobile homes or their RVs parked in the National Forest. I think that's what's sad. I think the context like. You know, looking at the fuller picture to me, what was like motivating.”

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27. “Yeah, yeah. So, you know, I was, I think, look, yeah, looking for community. And at the time, I still wasn't going to church regularly and started hanging out a bit at the Scamani County Dems and just meeting neighbors and talking to people about what was going on. And our county is a timber county. It was a big producer of timber. Most of our, like it's like 97 or is a very high percentage of our land is owned by the federal government. It's National Forest. And so timber harvest rates and just the health of our lumber mills, paper mills, very important. And we don't have paper mills that's right outside of our county. So, yeah, thinking about the ways that I saw a lack of”

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28. “Yeah, so Dean Dean, when I met Dean, he was running a mobile repair shop out of the back of Vanigan. And it was like a sick setup. Like he had like waste oil. He had hose reels. He had air compressor on the roof. It's like pretty solid rig. And I started helping him. Shortly after we met, he started renting space inside of a shop. And then when I graduated, he needed help with a few things. And so I started working with him and helping him. And then we were actually living in a school bus and kind of getting chased around Portland with that. And I knew I wanted to live in Washington. And a customer of ours actually offered to sell us some property. So we moved the school bus out there. And, you know, part of why I joke that we still have our freedoms.”

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29. “Did yeah. I think you don't know the depth, you know, but you see things going wrong and it's, yeah, it's difficult to talk about, I guess, still.”

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30. “Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was, yeah, pretty tragic. I mean, I think suicide and young men is, it's on the rise and it's, you know, people are suffering. Young people are suffering. There's just a lot of, I think, I mean, it's a really brutal time to be trying to get your feet under you and have pride and self-worth and I guess self-sufficiency I think is like a very deeply American, you know, and just, you know, young people want to be self-sufficient. They want to have agency. And it's an epidemic. It's an epidemic right now.”

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31. “Set up in a parking lot and on a pallet, and we get kids out there. It was during finals week. So, you know, come take a break from studying and come saw this log with us and got that put up. And it's still there, I understand.”

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32. “Yeah, yeah. Well, that was a really difficult thing, but there was a storm and a really large tree came down. It was over a hundred-year-old fir tree. And yeah, this is like the mentality of like, you don't ask if you can do something, you ask how you can do it. And so, you know, I worked with the school to be able to get this memorial up because they don't allow memorials for individuals anymore. And we got this tree. We got a six foot span of an old growth fur and got students organized that we cut it. We ripped it with a misery whip, a two-man misery whip. It's an old, you know, it's the old crosscut saw. And so I had it.”

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33. “Yeah, pretty much. I was actually, I met him. He was working underneath an RV. And I was like, oh, who's that? Like, he's cute. I found something for him to fix. Called him up and yeah, we started dating and that was formed because he would show up and he'd come get me dirty. Like he was like greasy, right? And wearing chop clothes and these boys at Reed were very like there were a few that were just very condescending, very elitist, very like came up with nicknames for them and, you know, it was like to see that directed, you know, I guess I had thought that was sort of like something maybe old people did, but then to be like, oh, this is just, this is class. This is like, you think you're better than him. You think you're smarter than him and you're not like that's very ugly.”

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34. “Yeah, I did piecework. I worked in a factory that made iPhone cases. And I was also, I was running the bike co-op. And so that was really wild for me. I remember teaching a physics major how to hold a wrench, you know, and it's like, what is going on here? Like, you are going to get bloody knuckles. Like, you got to move your hand back, you know, and seeing sort of the disconnect between maybe an academic field and like what you can't be taught, but what you need to learn for yourself and the necessity of that to come out with a skill that's worth having, you know”

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35. “Yes. Yeah. When I stopped going to church, they're like, we're not condoning. We're not going to help pay for read if you're not going to church. If you're walking away from the church, like we're not going to support this. And so it took me, I think I was there for like seven years. I paid for cat classes like in cash and like I was working a lot of jobs to do that and that was a grind, but I'm pretty stubborn and”

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36. “Out when I was in high school called Blue Like Jazz that was written by an evangelical Christian. And he went to read and he or maybe he had friends there or something. He was in Portland and aware of, you know, he was like, that's how I learned about Reed College was from that book. And that's when I started looking into it. I did want to go to school in the Northwest. Like I knew I wanted to end up be around my family and be up there. And that's where I have, I felt like my family is and my parents moved back there actually while I was in college.”

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37. “Yeah. Well, I remember going to public school and like being so offended that I had to get a bathroom pass, that I had to ask to go to the bathroom. Like I felt like that degraded my self view as like somebody with agency and who wanted to learn, you know, and then going and thinking about college and seeing some of these like textbooks where it's all about like buzzwords and leadership and whatever. And I saw in the read curriculum that it's like a lot of classics. It's a lot of, you know, first sources and things like that where you are at you are agency as someone who can think and learn is held in you know that you you need to have that view about yourself to be here we're not here to like tell you know tell you what to think we're here to think about what other people have thought about and you form your opinion about that and i so there was a book that came”

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38. “And trying to kind of rebalance and say, like, who is considered an expert? Like, who merits a seat at this table? And I think to your point about the sort of anthropologist mindset or like the moral superiority, I think seeing it on both sides, it's like in the same way that you don't know whether or not that stream bed really should be straightened. You don't know you cannot legislate someone's right to abortion. Like, I don't, I think you don't know what that specific medical condition is. You don't know like these staff or bros do not know what they're talking about and they're the ones writing legislation.”

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39. “Yeah. And in this role where you're like, I would not have been invited to this meeting, and now I'm convening it, you know.”

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40. “And it's everything is so specific, like, yes, in a lab, it works this way. You need to combine that understanding with the actual specifics of what happens with Frost Heave in this microclimate. And, you know, so it's interesting, you know, to. Have real to be now in these meetings and.”

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41. “Oh, for sure, you know, and like I remember going on a tour of some conservation timberland and somebody was like, I don't know why these loggers can't just follow the science. And I was like, well, I do because in living memory, we were told that we needed to straighten the stream beds and remove all the woody debris. And, you know, now you're helicoptering in root wads at great expense when our schools don't have, you know, central heat or whatever the, you know, the AC system has been there since never or the 1950s. And it's like, yeah, science changes, but science also needs to be informed by local experience and local expertise. Like Wendell Berry says it's probably more important for a farmer to remember that his grandmother said, don't do that than it is to have a degree in soil science.”

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42. “I would say deeply, yeah, deeply. We weren't the kind of family that really talked a lot about politics at home, but my parents subscribed to a magazine, a conservative magazine called World Magazine. I remember that. And my family, so all of my American family is in Washington State. And so we would spend summers up there often. And like I remember all of the kind of dissonance between the Sesame Street, like Hug a Tree, and then seeing trees everywhere and seeing the devastation of job loss, all, you know, families used to have up these yard signs in Watcombe County, probably all up and down the peninsula too. Like this home supported by timber bucks and just all the job loss and all, you know, my cousins up there who were impacted by it. And that was definitely the worldview that I was raised with.”

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43. “I went to eighth grade, and I was such a nerd. And yeah, I remember a couple boys that like spit on me in the school bus and I like, you know, just totally unaware of social norms. Like, you know, I didn't know that the older kids try and sit in the back of the bus or like whatever. And as funny because they say that I read a paper once that was like, whatever you're doing in eighth grade is kind of what you're good at like your brain sort of reorganizing itself at that point. And so kind of watching and thinking about what are people doing, why are they doing it like what's going on here?”

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44. “But yeah, it was the only kid around often. But I also, I think that the kind of homogeneity of only being with people who are your age is not natural necessarily. So, you know, I was friends with older people and like retirees. But it was a great education. It was also, yeah, like lonely at times.”

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45. “Well, my brother is 18 months older than me, and so we're really close, you know, fought hard, played hard, love each other, still love each other deeply. But yeah, I was lonely. I mean, we had like homeschool groups. So we had a few other families from the church that were also homeschooling. So there's like a, you know, there's a group of us. But, you know, that's, yeah, like that's like five hours a week. I worked a lot. I actually worked at a horse barn starting when I was like eight years old. I put up a flyer there and was like, people paid me, I think I charged $1.50 to muck out a stall. And because I was homeschooled, I could go in the morning and take care of people's horses. And, you know, I really, I really wanted a horse. And my parents were like, we don't have that kind of money. So I just, and I did actually eventually kind of get a horse for a while. But yeah, I worked a lot.”

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46. “Of kind of dogma and what's good for people and what you ought to be trying to do with your life, they actually didn't want me to go to college. My parents were like, you should start a small business. And I, uh, Which is funny when your parents are right because that's exactly what I did.”

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47. “Yeah, yeah. My parents homeschooled us all. My mom homeschooled for like 20 years. The older two, my oldest two siblings were homeschooled till they went to college. And the school district wasn't great. And my mom, you know, it was a very parents don't believe in evolution. They're very conservative. So they didn't want us in those schools also. It was I loved my mom was a great teacher. My mom is, I have so much admiration for her. And just the way that I was able to kind of follow my interests and, you know, she's quite skeptical. Like, I remember her making fun of Sesame Street when they would have these little episodes where they were like, hug a tree. Now hug yourself. Now hug a tree. She just thought that was so funny. And just, you know, I think very skeptical of a lot of.”

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48. “And my dad was the lay pastor of a Spanish language church. It's a Bible church, which I like to say is sort of like Baptist, but with less hairspray. So, you know, this was Texas under the Bush administration. And so I really saw closely the way that there's a lot of wage theft. There's a lot of just, I think community reliance, like on the church, making sure that families were taken care of and trying to keep families together.”

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49. “Then them, and that was really important to them. And my parents stayed together obviously got married anyways. And my dad got a job in Texas. I think he kind of wanted to be closer to Mexico. And he got a job there. And they, unfortunately, my family lost the bus factory when the peso collapsed. But one thing I'm proud of is like, you know, the family lore is like there's I don't know if there still are, but when I was a kid, there were people who were still living off the pensions. Like my grandfather and mate in Mexico made sure to take care of his people and make sure that people were respected and paid. My family's quite, they're on non-denominational evangelical Christians' faith is really important in my family.”

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50. “Yeah, yeah. So my parents met at Western Washington University. My dad had some random aunt there. And when the government shut down the universities in Mexico, he went out there to get his degree. His father owned a bus factory. They made buses in Mexico. And so he was going to get his degree in engineering to help with that. met my mom in the cafeteria. And, you know, they, yeah, they fell in love and, you know, my mom's family is all in logging. And my dad's family really wasn't supportive of the relationship and had him move to another college to graduate to kind of try and break them up. And they kind of, I think they kind of viewed her as a lower social class.”

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