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Marina Diamandis

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“I thought if I ate the world, I would finally be full, I would never be hungry again. I was wrong. Of course I was. This isn't a movie. This is real life. A ragged, jagged pillar of a life. A whirl of clothes, cars, photoshoots, planes, tears, traumas, studios trains. Approve, approve, approve, try, try try, try, grind, grind, grind to be heard, seen, valued, understood, by men with no knowledge of real womanhood, who held my power in their purses, owned my choruses and my verses. Now I'm free of what I had to sever. I'm free of the hunger lighter than feather. I'm free of those men, I'm prolific like heather. I ate the whole world and I'll lead it forever.”
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“Can someone beatbox I was the type of girl to swallow the world whole, ingest it all. I felt too much needed too much. There would never be enough love. Insatiable, endless black hole of everythingness, starving for everything I didn't need, malnourished by placebos of love, vitamins called success, attention, money, fame, pissed out, unaware into luxurious Japanese toilet balls. Nothing could touch the sides of my crippling black star void, jet black hole of noise. No boyfriend, magazine, cover chart sale, sold out tour million dollar contract could satiate my stomach ache for love.”
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“It is humbling to get older, but also doing events like this makes me feel good about it because there are ways in which you can actually make that a powerful thing, not something that you're losing. It would be so sad if human existence was about just focusing on this one quite small period in life and ignoring the rest. Like we're here for 80 to 100 years for a reason because each chapter gives us something new, I hope anyway.”
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“Yeah, I love that because also I think women are kind of punished when they deviate from that. Like I think Chapel Roan is an excellent example of someone who's early to mid-20s and Well, says how she feels. I think that's an example of some... Accepting the power that they acquire in womanhood. And womanhood is very inconvenient, I think, to patriarchy. So as young girls, we're told to hold on to our youth. And also there's just such a deep connection with your level of desirability, which is also linked with your value. And I'm moving through that now. I'm like, I just don't want to feel like that. I refuse. Even if it is hard to have eyebags all of a sudden, I'm like, what the fuck happened?”
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“Stepping into your personal sense of power and what that looks like. And I realized that I can't do that if I'm still remaining in girlhood in some way, even if that's just energetically. And I think I think adulthood is great because you're able to harness and relinquish your own power that sometimes you give up as a child as a teenager. So in terms of what's ahead, I don't have five-year plans, but I do have like two-year plans because that's the album cycle.”
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“Great subject. I think Yeah, I think With pop music, it is so youth oriented for good reason, and I think it's a really interesting question that you pose, which is like, how do you grow older as a pop artist and still remain... True to yourself in a way that's like not hanging on to youth because I do have those thoughts, but I don't want to do it. I just hope that I can move through to essentially womanhood. I was speaking about this yesterday. I think this transition from girlhood to womanhood can occur for women, you know, sometimes late teens, mid-20s. For me, I'm 39 and it's just happening now. But it really struck me a few weeks ago because I'm just finishing up my next record and it's so much about So much about”
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“I read books about it. There's one called The Baby Decision. That's really good. And ultimately, as soon as I gave myself the freedom to make the decision I wanted, I felt like massively better. And my whole life kind of improved after that. I think that was maybe two years ago. But yeah, it's a big decision. I have such respect and admiration for people who do choose to become parents. Even if you have a mad desire to be one, it's still very challenging and self-sacrificing. Particularly, I think for women, because Feels almost impossible to Least through my friends' experiences, I think it's almost impossible to retain that old part of you. You have to grieve certain parts of yourself. So it's a big decision and it shouldn't be taken lightly if you have the freedom to choose because a lot of women in the world don't have the freedom”
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“Yeah, I think, I mean, first off, I think it's always good to give yourself the space. If you ever want to change your mind, that's fine. But I also feel that for myself, it took me like probably three years of really thinking about it deeply. Honestly, just feeling so bad that I didn't feel the same way as everyone else. I used to literally just say, I wish I could just fit in and do the damn thing. I can't force myself to do things I don't want to do.”
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“I think I would have Said to myself. Really be careful about the people around me, like the people in my team. Particular to choose people who actually really cared about me. And I think it's still something that's quite difficult in this industry. Even with friendships as well, because I think doing this kind of job attracts all sorts of people for all sorts of reasons. And it might not be, again, anything that's negative. But I think when you're giving so much and so much of your life is investing in your work or doing shows and promo and stuff, you need people who really going to enrich you. Just truly be there for you. And I don't think I really had that in my life for a long time.”
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“We all do little things for our appearance, but it's tough out there. I definitely have a lot of compassion and absolutely no judgment.”
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“Just aware of the fact that is it just something else that women suddenly have to like scrabble to adhere to to meet some ideal that is often just a trend? It's really difficult because living in LA, I swear like twice a year me and my best friend text each other and go, should I get lip filler? And the other one goes, no, you don't fucking need it And this time my best friend texted me, and I was like, Don't ever fucking get it. But then three weeks later, I was like, maybe I should get a tiny bit. So, I'm not immune at all, but I think, yeah, it's worth challenging yourself on these things because they seem small and nuanced, but you still want to feel like the majority of yourself is actually you, you know, like your brain.”
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“No, I wasn't aware of it. I think when I write, it is a bit selfish in that it's just what I need to say at the time. But I think after the fact... And like you saying about the fact that body image almost feels worse now, like the pressure to look a certain way, I feel a little, it's not that I'm not affected, but I feel a bit desensitized because I just don't have any activation there anymore. It's almost like 15 years ago that I started to recover from disorder eating. But now I think now looking at the like culture it seems like we've just swapped one ideal for another and that's something that I don't feel great about because I think also there's this mantra about Women's choice to do whatever they want to their bodies, and I'm 100% pro that. Everyone should have the choice. It's your life, but I also think we need to be careful with”
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“I think it's difficult because we all have different limits and different bandwidths for how much we can give, how much stimulation we can cope with each day. Think extroverts do better than introverts on that level, but I think you're the only one who's able to vocalize that and learn about that and learn that actually it's okay to say, I don't want to give anymore, like I'm done for the day or for the week or whatever it is. But I think particularly in the beginning of your career, it feels so urgent, everything feels like it's make or break. Yeah, I've worked myself beyond so many times. Which I think was the reason behind some health issues that I'd had in the last five or six years. So I have had to change. That forced me. I don't think I would have if I hadn't had that happen to me.”
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“I think it has been occasionally, yeah. It's never in nasty ways. I think it's just difficult. Full stop whether it's a man or a woman, I think with your partner, sometimes you can trigger certain things in them if you're someone who's very ambitious. And likewise, I might feel like that in the future. I don't know. But I think it was never from a bad place, but it was always kind of interesting that... Think you're referring to aspartame, where this person had been four years since he'd seen me and I don't think he ever imagined that I would... Make it because it's just so rare to be given the chance to do this. So I understood why it was so weird for him. Yeah.”
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“It's obvious, but definitely getting signed, like Aspartame, which is online already, that was about the period of my life three years before. And I think getting signed just changed my life so radically, just mentally and otherwise. But apart from that, I don't know, because it's all felt very gradual for me. I don't think I've had this pop-off moment yet. What do you guys think? Have I had it yet? Is this all there is? I don't know, Electra Heart obviously was commercial, and I've had number ones and stuff, but I don't personally feel I've had that moment where other artists have had, where it suddenly goes insane. Mine's just been slowly, slowly, slowly. Yeah.”
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“Which is very anti pop. But I'm like, well, maybe it can be pop. Maybe that's actually part of my uniqueness as an artist and what I can offer people. It's like, you know, whenever I pop my clogs, may that be in many years, I'd rather feel that people were able to connect with me on a human level and feel less lonely about similar subjects that are challenging to them than be this kind of image or figure that seems perfect. I think there's something dissatisfying in that ultimately. And also it doesn't allow me to grow. Like I want to exist in other spheres outside of music because I love conversation and I love self-actualization. That's something that's always really driven my work and purposes as an artist.”
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“I mean, it's a good question because I think a lot of pop artistry is about putting forward an image of yourself that you hope to be. It's like we're our own superheroes in a way we get to dress in a way that's fantastical or make music videos. But when you strip that back, everyone's just a human being with similar-ish issues. And I think for me, the only kind of difficult part, I think, is kind of breaking that like. Wall in a way where even coming on this book tour, I didn't have to do it a lot. And they just put them out and that's it. And I knew this would be challenging because I'm basically admitting I'm human.”
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“Think they were. I actually thank my therapists in the acknowledgements because I'm like, she probably never gets a thank you in that way. But yes, there was a link for sure. In terms of if it's therapy, it is therapeutic in a sense, because I think once you bring things to the fore, you can't ignore them. It's like there's this very common thing with artists. When they put an album out, like when it's released, they'll break up with their boyfriend because suddenly you have to face the reality that you wrote all these songs about. And that maybe you shouldn't be with them. It's common. So, yeah, I do think it's therapeutic in that way.”
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“Whether it's that you're looking for a relationship or you're dating casually, they're not really like secure or safe connections yet because of the way that you meet. It's not through like a friend where you kind of know a bit about that person. So I think throwing myself to the wolves, per se, I would feel much more vulnerable. And I think even though it was a horrible experience, I think it was very necessary for me to be able to actually Process these patterns that I had and where they'd even come from. So I wouldn't say I'm fully out, but I'm like, I'm on the way out.”
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“I mean, interestingly, that was only written two years ago about my current life. Well, I'm getting over it, but I think this book has actually been instrumental in shifting through that because I don't think you can change things until you're aware of them in yourself. And I think my relationships in my 20s, you know, they're like up and down as everyone's really. they were more consistent, I would say. And then when I left a relationship around 35, I moved to LA. It was like this new chapter of my life. I was suddenly in this dating world where there are dating apps now. I'd never been on an app. I'd always met people naturally in my life. And I think that brought up a lot of pre-existing issues.”
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“I feel scared of the sea for one, so I think that's what started it, but I think seeing the ocean as this of entity that humans that lives along humans and is far more knowledgeable than us. I think the way in which our consciousness has developed is that, or maybe the human brain has developed, is that we think we're can be set for the ocean. So I think it's looking at nature in a different way where it's not like, you know, it's not from the top down where humans are the most intelligent species or living thing here”
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“I'm like, will it ever happen for me? Nobody knows. But I think even if you have that stability, you're still going to encounter ups and downs because that's part of the human experience. Nobody escapes challenges.”
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“Yeah, I think our experi Usually the source or like the impetus for us to become artists. I think there are lots of artists out today who don't seem to work from a place of sadness. And I think it's inspiring to see that, but also for myself. I don't think you need to have that as your basis. I think life is up and down, like happiness isn't permanent destination that we're all going to. I think even if you live a great life and you're very emotionally stable.”
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“With the sadness, I think if that's been a baseline in your life for a long time, you don't know what's on the other side. And so part of you desperately wants to escape a challenging state, like sadness. However, you don't know how else life could look. And actually, I'm thinking of a quote that I discovered about six months ago, which is, we always choose familiar hells over unfamiliar heavens. That just resonated so deeply with me. We all want a better life for ourselves, but it's like, how do you get there? And I think in our worst moments, it might be like, I know I have these patterns that make me feel stuck, but how do I get out of them? And it really, it's like a little by little process. I think lasting change rarely happens quickly.”
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“That's such a good topic because I think it relates to change and how difficult it is to change your life. It's never overnight. I think it's like a very gradual process. And I think in terms of that poem that you mentioned, I think”
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“Yeah, I think I have been tagged as that, but I also think that's why I have such a dedicated fan base because I think you guys are people who want interesting lyrics and you relate to music in a way that it's like a companion to help you grow throughout life. At least that's what I'm like, and that's the sensation I get with my fans. But I think... Yeah, I think with poetry. I don't know. I like being honest and I get a thrill when I uncover something in myself that makes me feel like I'm able to be more honest with myself. So I think it's outspoken, but maybe not in the way that people might predict. It's not political really very much at all. It's more of a personal book.”
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“But also, I didn't know that I was going to do a book at first. I was just enjoying it. But I think the variety of subjects that I could talk about is much larger. Because again, some things just aren't going to sound good in a song Yeah, you can't articulate it in the same way.”
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“was the crucial difference between the two and were there you just mentioned about how you could perhaps express yourself less with fantasy Poetry, but was there other things that poetry gave”
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“Yeah, I think getting used to a new city, I think for any of us it can be quite isolating at first, regardless of if you have a community there or not and I think a city like LA is so large it really can magnify certain aspects of your personality So for me it was a lot of this book is exploring this idea of having a feeling of loneliness despite having people around you and it's something that's personal to me might not really have anything to do with my past. It's just like part of my personality and yeah that was one of the main topics I started with I guess for lay people perhaps people who aren't songwriters or poets like there is often a conflation of the two and people will say you know this artist's songs are very poetic or indeed that like some poetry sounds like songs what did you”
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“The period of your life in which you sat down writing them, what was going on for you in the broader context of your life, you could just set the scene about when you were writing these. So it was 2022 and I'd moved to LA permanently like two years before. I wasn't in a relationship and I hadn't been for a couple of years.”
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“them into a song, and so I left them be for a while, and then a couple of weeks later I went back to them and I was like, oh, I think these could be poems, not songs. They don't need to be shoehorned into a pop song structure. And so from that moment onwards, I started to write pretty much every single day, the whole summer. And I discovered that this medium could afford me so much space to explore the past definitely to be more literal as well because I think with pop songs there's an element of fantasy, which I really love. But I think with poetry, it just allowed me to expand on topics that perhaps I'd already discussed in music before.”
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“I welcome Marina has only been in the UK a couple of days back in the UK and you're saying you were coping well with the jet lag so hopefully I'm feeling very alive right now so I'm feeling good We're going to just jump straight in to talk about this poetry collection. You know, you've been writing songs that we've been listening to for like, I mean, almost two decades. You've written a poetry collection. I was wondering if you could just very basic question, talk about how, you know, deciding to do this to sort of switch medium, how that came about. I was on a shroom trip. This is the true story I usually don't write lyrics when I'm That state. However, that date I felt inspired and I was writing a bunch of stuff down and after the trip I was like I love these lyrics but I don't think I can”
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“I thought if I ate the world, I would finally be full, I would never be hungry again. I was wrong. Of course I was. This isn't a movie this is real life. A ragged, jagged pillar of a life. A whirl of clothes, cars, photoshoots, planes, tears, traumas, studios trains. Approve, approve, approve, try, try try, try, grind, grind, grind to be heard, seen, valued, understood, by men with no knowledge of real womanhood, who held my power in their purses, owned my choruses and my verses. But now I'm free of what I had to sever, I'm free of the hunger, lighter than feather. I'm free of those men and prolific like heather. I ate the whole world, and I'll lead it forever.”
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“Someone beatboxed. I was the type of girl to swallow the world whole, ingest it all. I felt too much needed too much. There would never be enough love. Insatiable, endless black hole of everythingness, starving for everything I didn't need, malnourished by placebos of love. Vitamins called success, attention, money, fame, pissed out, unaware into luxurious Japanese toilet balls. Nothing could touch the sides of my crippling black star void, jet black hole of noise. No boyfriend, magazine, cover chart sale, sold out to million dollar contract could satiate my stomach ache for love.”
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“It is humbling to get older, but also doing events like this makes me feel good about it because there are ways in which you can actually make that a powerful thing, not something that you're losing. It would be so sad if human existence was about just focusing on this one quite small period in life and ignoring the rest. Like we're here for 80 to 100 years for a reason because each chapter gives us something new, I hope anyway.”
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“Yeah, I love that because also I think women are kind of punished when they deviate from that. Like I think Chapel Roan is an excellent example of someone who's early to mid-20s Well, says how she feels. I think that's an example of someone. Accepting the power that they acquire in womanhood and womanhood is very inconvenient, I think, to patriarchy. So as young girls, we're told to hold on to our youth. And also there's just such a deep connection with your level of desirability, which is also linked with your value. I'm moving through that now. I'm like, I just don't want to feel like that. I refuse. Even if it is hard to have eyebags all of a sudden, I'm like, what the fuck happened?”
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“Stepping into your personal sense of power and what that looks like. And I realized that I can't do that if I'm still remaining in girlhood in some way, even if that's just energetically. And I think, yeah, I think adulthood is great because you're able to harness and relinquish your own power, that sometimes you give up as a child or as a teenager. So in terms of what's ahead, I don't have five-year plans, but I do have like two-year plans because that's the album cycle.”
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“Great subject. I think Yeah, I think With pop music, it is so youth oriented for good reason. And I think it's a really interesting question that you pose, which is like, how do you grow older as a pop artist and still remain... True to yourself in a way that's like not hanging on to youth because I do have those thoughts, but I don't want to do it. I just hope that I can move through to essentially womanhood. I was speaking about this yesterday. I think this transition from girlhood to womanhood can occur for women, you know, sometimes late teens, mid-20s. For me, I'm 39 and it's just happening now. But it really struck me a few weeks ago because I'm just finishing up my next record and it's so much about It's so much about”
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“Even if you have a mad desire to be one, it's still very challenging and self-sacrificing. Particularly, I think for women, because Feels almost impossible to Least through my friends' experiences, I think it's almost impossible to retain that old part of you. You have to grieve certain parts of yourself. So it's a big decision and it shouldn't be taken lightly if you have the freedom to choose because a lot of women in the world don't have the freedom.”
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“I think, I mean, first off, I think it's always good to give yourself the space. If you ever want to change your mind, that's fine. But I also feel that for myself, it took me like probably three years of really thinking about it deeply. And honestly just feeling so bad that I didn't feel the same way as everyone else, I used to literally just say, I wish I could just fit in and do the damn thing. I can't force myself to do things I don't want to do. I read books about it. There's one called The Baby Decision. That's really good. And ultimately, as soon as I gave myself the freedom to make the decision I wanted, I felt like massively better. And my whole life kind of improved after that. I think that was maybe two years ago. But yeah, it's a big decision. I have such respect and admiration for people who do choose to become parents because...”
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“I think I would have Said to myself. Really be careful about the people around me, like the people in my team. In particular, to choose people who actually really cared about me. And I think it's still something that's quite difficult in this industry. Even with friendships as well, because I think doing this kind of job attracts all sorts of people for all sorts of reasons. And it might not be, again, anything that's negative. But I think when you're giving so much and so much of your life is investing in your work or doing shows and promo and stuff, you need people who really going to enrich you. Just truly be there for you, and I don't think I really had that in my life for a long time.”
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“So, I'm not immune at all, but I think, yeah, it's worth challenging yourself on these things because they seem small and nuanced, but you still want to feel like the majority of yourself is actually you, you know, like your brain We all do little things for our appearance, but it's tough out there. I definitely have a lot of compassion and absolutely no judgment.”
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“Women's choice to do whatever they want to their bodies, and I'm 100% pro that. Everyone should have the choice. It's your life, but I also think we need to be careful with Just aware of the fact that is it just something else that women suddenly have to like scrabble to adhere to to meet some ideal that is often just a trend? It's really difficult because Living in LA, I swear twice a year, me and my best friend text each other and go, should I get lip filler? And the other one goes, no, you don't fucking need it. And this time, my best friend texted me, and I was like, Don't ever fucking get it. But then three weeks later, I was like, maybe I should get a tiny bit.”
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“No, I wasn't aware of it. I think when I write, it is a bit selfish in that it's just what I need to say at the time. But I think after the fact, I'm glad I have because this is like a period of my life that is so far behind me. And like you saying about the fact that body image almost feels worse now, like the pressure to look a certain way, it's not that I'm not affected, but I feel a bit desensitized because I just don't have any activation there anymore. It's almost like 15 years ago that I started to recover from disorder eating. But now, I think now looking at the culture, it seems like we've just swapped one ideal for another, and that's something that I don't feel great about. Because I think also there's this mantra about”
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“I think it's difficult because we all have different limits and different bandwidths for how much we can give, how much stimulation we can cope with each day. Think extroverts do better than introverts on that level, but I think you're the only one who's able to vocalize that and learn about that and learn that actually it's okay to say, I don't want to give anymore, like I'm done for the day or for the week or whatever it is. But I think particularly in the beginning of your career, it feels so urgent. Everything feels like it's make or break Yeah, I've worked myself beyond so many times, which I think was the reason behind some health issues that I'd had in the last five or six years. So I have had to change. That forced me. I don't think I would have if I hadn't had that happen to me.”
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“It has been occasionally, yeah. It's never in nasty ways. I think it's just difficult. Full stop whether it's a man or a woman, I think with your partner, sometimes you can trigger certain things in them if you're someone who's very ambitious. And likewise, I might feel like that in the future. I don't know. But I think it was never from a bad place, but it was always kind of interesting that... Think you're referring to aspartame, where this person had been four years since he'd seen me and I don't think he ever imagined that I would... Make it because it's just so rare to be given the chance to do this. So I understood why it was so weird for him.”
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“It's obvious, but definitely getting signed like aspartame, which is online already, that was about the period of my life three years before. And I think getting signed just changed my life so radically, just mentally and otherwise. But apart from that, I don't know, because it's all felt very gradual for me. I don't think I've had this pop-off moment yet. What do you guys think? Have I had it yet Is this all there is? I don't know, Electra Heart obviously was commercial, and I've had number ones and stuff, but I don't personally feel I've had that moment where other artists have had, where it suddenly goes insane. Mine's just been slowly, slowly, slowly. Yeah.”
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“And I'm like, well, maybe it can be pop. Maybe that's actually part of my uniqueness as an artist and what I can offer people. It's like, you know, whenever I pop my clogs, may that be in many years, I'd rather feel that people were able to connect with me on a human level and feel less lonely about similar subjects that are challenging to them than be this kind of image or figure that seems perfect. I think there's something dissatisfying in that ultimately. And also it doesn't allow me to grow. Like, I want to exist in other spheres outside of music because I love conversation and I love self-actualization. That's something that's always really driven my work and purposes as an artist.”
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“I mean, it's a good question because I think a lot of pop artistry is about putting forward an image of yourself that you hope to be. It's like we're our own superheroes in a way we get to dress in a way that's fantastical or make music videos. But when you strip that back, everyone's just a human being with similar issues. And I think for me, the only kind of difficult part, I think, is Is kind of breaking that like. Wall in a way where even coming on this book tour, I didn't have to do it a lot and they just put them out and that's it. And I knew this would be challenging because I'm basically admitting I'm human. Which is very anti pop.”
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“I think they were. I actually thank my therapists in the acknowledgements because I'm like, she probably never gets a thank you in that way. Yes, there was a link for sure. In terms of if it's therapy, it is therapeutic in a sense, because I think once you bring things to the fore, you can't ignore them. It's like there's this very common thing with artists. When they put an album out, like when it's released, they'll break up with their boyfriend because suddenly you have to face the reality that you wrote all these songs about them. and that maybe you shouldn't be with them. It's common. So, yeah, I do think it's therapeutic in that way.”
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