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Mark Constantine

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  1. Yeah, so he would have been in the lower echelons. And the first thing I learned when they put me up, when they had absolutely nothing, was the generosity of spirit of that in comparison to the other side of the street.

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  2. So talking about class systems, I lived in the middle class estate on one side of the road where people owned the houses, and Geoffrey lived on the other side of the street in the housing you rented from the council. We call them councils. Council flats.

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  3. I think when you have to survive from zero, obviously there's more drive, isn't there? I mean. I look at photos of myself in my early 20s and I see this awfully driven person. I mean, Just driven absolutely driven. I think, I suppose, you know, if you're left, you know, if you've got to look after yourself. Know it teaches you self reliance.

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  4. A Then I decided I wanted to do theatrical makeup, is what I wanted to do for a living. I wanted to make people up for the theatre. I'd done it at school. I'd done it for other schools. We were talking about the sheer excitement of being able to change appearances. And we were talking then about the excitement. Being able to experiment with different products on your face, and I was buying these makeup items from the local hairdressing salon. So I would go there every Saturday and with whatever money I had, I would buy frothing blood capsules or plastic nose plastic or the latest prosthetics that were coming in from the States. So I was really obsessed from that time. And then the hairdressing was just, for me, a means to an end.

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  5. Basically, I would sleep in one friend's greenhouse or I had a girlfriend who is now my wife and I would go and stay her for a night. I'd stay with my friend Jeff Osman. And quite often his parents would put me up. People were unbelievably kind.

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  6. Yes. So I couldn't afford the cheapest room in town. So basically I slept in the woods or I just couch surfed. So, you know, which wasn't a thing those days, it didn't have a turn.

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  7. So, do I remember what happened? No. But what I do remember is the very singular way you feel when nobody cares. It didn't matter what time I got in at night. It didn't matter whether I was there or not. Nothing mattered with regard to me. So when you're rebelling, obviously it's important that the other person has some feeling regarding you. Yeah? There was no discernible feeling, I can't remember what happened physically. I remember the door being locked. I remember it being the end of everything connected with that house. And I just took it as the ultimate rejection and went. I didn't try and fight back or go back in and later on and have a conversation or anything. I just went. And there was just this parting of the ways and that was it. And I don't think I saw my mum again for, say, seven years or so on that.

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  8. You know, I mean, I missed my father even though I'd never known him. I think I was melancholy to use the traditional old fashioned word. I mean, my mother missed my father. I missed my father. I suspect I caught it from her. Do you know what I mean as a meme, as it were? Up until I was 10, 12 or whatever it was, 11, it was fine. From then on there were a five or six year period in my life which was not fine.

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  9. Yes When I've seen people since, there was one girl who I went to school who had called Elspeth Cox, and I saw her some twenty years later, and she said, I'm so glad your life worked out well. You were such a sad child.

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  10. They were weak killer and sugar bombs with potassium per mangate and glycerin fuses and all sorts of things like that. We weren't making them for the IRA. We were just using them for our own purposes to intimidate other gang Was that when William Golding wrote? Lord of the flies at that period of time. So if you can imagine that style of living, when that's how it was. But for me, I'm not at all physical. So, I'm not going to fight anyone if I can possibly avoid it.

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  11. There were a lot of gangs Gangs were normal in the 50s for everyone. There were lots of gangs. So I went to the grammar school, which was the better school in Town, the top 10% students went to the grammar school. Everyone was surprised when I got in. And then I wasted it while I was there, except that I did make friends and we were in a particular gang where we could make... Bombs and things like that.

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  12. I didn't fight with my mum, but I fought a lot with my stepdad, physical fights, and they would argue, we would all argue. It was just... I want to say unsatisfactory, which doesn't sound like a strange word to use, doesn't it? But certainly when I came to build my own home, I, for example, never locked the front door. You know, I make an effort on those smaller things that tell people that they're wanted and cared for.

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  13. What happened was there was a lodger, and my mother married the lodger and we moved out and my grandmother died. And I didn't realize probably until much later in my life how much that had affected me. And I felt responsible, I think, for my grandmother's death for most of my life because obviously I was important to her and I wasn't there anymore and I couldn't look after her and she died. And then my stepfather was very cold, I would say, and violent. Know, but that's a very typical upbringing in the 50s because they'd come out of a war. Do you know what I mean? They'd lost their friends. Some of them had seen their friends killed or relatives. And so it was not surprising that those people that were bringing up my generation were not the best balanced people in the world.

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  14. She was a journalist in the local newspaper. And I knew my mum had to work in order for us to be okay. But it was a very, very comfortable life full of love and hugs and security. My name was always there and I love my nan. I looked after my nan. And so it was comfortable, very nice, very feminine life. I felt spoilt, if anything, to be honest. Obviously, my nan drilled into me the proper values as well with proverbs and all sorts of other things. I had to write repeatedly good, better, best, never let them rest till my good is better and my better best. Things like that.

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  15. I said, well, I think I've got a skill set that's such that if I can market it, I can make a load of money again. He sort of nodded sagely at seven and let me do it.

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