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Mark Kelly

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“Meguax, there is no country in the world better at solving hard problems than the United States. I'm convinced of it. I mean, we're the folks that sent people to the moon in the 1960s. We can solve these problems. We can make a brighter future for our kids and our grandkids. We can tackle climate change. Water here on the Colorado River.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I just knew because of the severity of her injury, I wasn't going to go and train in Russia to go be the commander of the space station. Which I would have considered doing. I also thought about maybe just trying to stay in the Navy. And continue, see if I can go maybe take that next step and get back into the operational part of the Navy. Love being in the Navy So, I'm always focused on the job that I'm doing today”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We've got to avoid, absolutely have to avoid default. So I'm focused on doing this job right now. Like I was in the Navy flying off of an aircraft carrier, you know, flying into Iraq on combat missions. I'm very focused on what I'm doing then. Fly in the space shuttle. I had to do that my last mission while Gabby was in the hospital. I'm rendezvousing with the space station while she's getting brain surgery. So I was that when you decided.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I told her I would, meaning I would consider it. And that's when I started really seriously taking a look at this. I don't rule anything out, but when I hear that, I think, okay, we've got a war in Europe right now. We've got a crisis on the Colorado River. We've got challenges at our border trying to get all this infrastructure money adequately deployed. Often this time of year in Arizona, we start to have wildfires that we've got to deal with. Senator Romney and I have been working on that. We've got problem after problem. We've got.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not really. I mean, it goes back to the election in 2018. You know, I was, Gabby and I were at this get out the vote effort right at the Van Buren here in Phoenix, music venue, listening to the gin blossoms. And this woman comes up to me. She was not much older than my eldest daughter, she says. And she's standing next to me because I'm watching pointed at the stage. And she says, My son has Down syndrome, and I'm terrified that he's going to lose his health insurance. Would you please consider running for the United States Senate?”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And it was totally her decision. And it was hard for her. I mean, she loved serving in the United States Congress. I'm sure Diane Feinstein loved being in the Senate. That's why she's been there so long. You know, I think this is a decision that she will have to make with the folks around her, people that she's close to. And at some point, I'm sure she, like anybody who serves in Congress, at some point they make a decision that it's time to move on.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I think it's important to recognize that she returned when my wife was shot. She was in a similar situation. And Gabby was in the hospital for six months. And I felt it was important for her to make her decision. And she did. We got to October, November. I think it was just before Thanksgiving. I remember sitting on our couch. I was still living in Texas. We hadn't moved back to Arizona yet. And she was still really struggling with her aphasia. And we're watching TV. And she asked me to mute the TV And she just said that she would like to resign.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You know, just from the founding of the United States of America, it proves that the smaller force that's smarter and willing to innovate on the battlefield can win not only battles, but can win the war.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And that's why you'll see days where the Russian military on a Saturday lost a thousand soldiers. I don't think Putin cares. And he can continue to throw at this. And when you have a bigger country and a bigger population, often in these kind of conflicts, mass wins.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes. It is very critical. And if this doesn't go well for Ukraine, My fear is that Putin and his cronies can just continue to throw more mass at this, meaning people. and stuff. They've got a bigger population. They've got a bigger army. They can conscript a lot of folks. They don't seem to care.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I think so. And, you know, right now the Ukrainians are doing well. They're getting new tanks. They're going to be deploying the M1 here soon. They're getting longer range surface-to-surface missiles from the UK. This is going to help. They're also suffering battle damage on a lot of the weapons that we've given them. We're trying to help them maintain. And repair these systems. I saw some stuff over there that's very unique to this fight with how we've been able to deploy technology and helping them at the front line repair, a howitzer like you would normally do in previously you would have to send this stuff back to depot level kind of maintenance.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“How does this war end? I mean, I think ultimately it's going to end in some sort of negotiation. And my hope is Putin makes a decision to that he can't win this thing. And it's in his best interest and his country's best interests, though I don't really think he cares so much about the country. He really cares about himself, that it's in his best interest to stop this. He is murdering women and children every single day. No.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Of my career, you know, flying airplanes like the F-16. I've flown the F-16 a number of times. I used to fly the F-18. I was a test pilot. I flew in combat. It's not a howitzer. It's not even a tank. It's going to be hard for them to maintain them. I think we need to look for the path to train not only the air crews, but the maintainers to get them a modern Air Force. Just flying a squadron of F-16s into Ukraine and turning them over to them doesn't work.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Artillery systems, high Mars, other Yeah, Patriots, weapons that they could put on their airplanes. And then we get to the question of F-16s. I've spent a lot”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'll get to that in a second. But he's also frustrated. I mean, this is existential for them. I mean, the day that while I was in the meeting with him, he brings up that one of the Ukrainian POWs, captured by the Russians, had been decapitated. And we hadn't heard about it yet. I mean, just the war crimes that Putin. Has committed is we haven't seen this in anything at this scale in decades. And my goal is that he and others are held accountable for this and that he loses. We're at a critical point here, right? I mean, there's going to be a counteroffensive. We don't have the details. I don't exactly when that's going to be and where and how this is going to be conducted. We've provided them with. A tremendous amount of military capacity, you know, weapon systems that That military in Ukraine has never had before”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was there about a month ago. I met with Zelensky for over an hour, but then even more time with his national security team, the deputy prime minister. I will say President Zelensky is very grateful for the weapons that we've provided and the assistance.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We passed my legislation to expand semiconductor manufacturing here in the country, a lot of that is going to come here to Arizona. Tens of thousands of good paying jobs. What we need and what we're working on is having the pipeline through community colleges and universities and even maybe straight out of high school and into some two-week program that then qualifies you to interview for TSMC, to entail to get these great jobs that do not require a four-year degree.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Finest attack helicopter in the world. I had an opportunity about a year ago to fly it. Brand new one had the new helicopter smell. A lot of fun to fly the Apache for me as a former test pilot. I don't have a lot of time in helicopters, but talking to the CEO about just how these are really good paying jobs, building Apache helicopters, how is it finding the workforce? And she said, it's really, really hard. And I said to her, I said, yeah, you probably have a hard time getting people coming out of the military that are airplane mechanics to build these Apaches. And she said, no, you don't understand. We'll take anybody. I mean, we'll take somebody out of high school. If they'll come here and if they can just pass a drug test. And they want the job. And these are good paying jobs. So, you know, we've got to be.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I'll tell you what, we don't want to turn into some countries that have declining populations. We need to grow our economy. If you're a CEO in the country today, I have not met a CEO that is in having a hard time finding the workforce. I mean, it could be, I'll be going over to Boeing later today. Last time I was there, I was talking to the CEO of Boeing where they build the Apache helicopter.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I agree. That's why we need a, that's why we call it comprehensive, right? I mean, I talk to farmers and ranchers all the time. They need more work. Bigger workforce. They've got limits on H2A visas. They would like to have more. The folks in Yuma County especially. I mean, that workforce comes.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And last Congress towards the end, we were getting close and we're going to continue to work on it. It is one of the most frustrating issues, especially when you consider that in the state of Arizona, I meet these young people all the time that came here when they're two years old and have to live with this uncertainty in their lives that they one day could be deported. It's really heartbreaking. Yeah, and they're considered.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, Border Patrol CBP the nonprofits in southern Arizona, not speaking for the other states, have done a really good job with coordination and communications with homeland security, the sector chiefs, Chief McGurk and Chief Maudlin have done a very good job here over the last couple months. They've worked together really well and they have managed this. Now having said that, we still have like really high numbers. This falls on especially mayors. Nichols and Ewish, so the mayors in southern Arizona and Yuma, Douglas, Nogalis, they've got a really tough job. And this is unfair for people that live in these border communities. Border patrol needs funding, more border patrol agents. We need more technology at the border. In some places, we need barriers. And then the thing you allude to.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah. Yeah, I think so. That and the bipartisan infrastructure bill. I work to get $8 billion for Western water infrastructure in there. We're going to get there. And I want to just give a shout out to the head of reclamation and the water managers like Tomb Bushotsky here in Arizona who have worked really, really hard at this”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Very effectively, and we're going to be able to conserve water. We're also going to do system conservation, which is drip irrigation, lining canals, other technology. You talk about science helping here. This is the science that is going to help. It's going to be a shared sacrifice. A lot of the deal on this because of who gets how much water, the reality of the situation is we've said there's 15 million acre feet of water in the Colorado River every year, and we've been using more water than there is. So we've got to be able to live within our means. We can't let Lake Mead get manpower pull and then dead pull. We've got a little time. The water managers are confident that you want th”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I mean, like anything is about choices. You said 88% in the state of Arizona it's about 80% goes to agriculture. Remember that agriculture here in the state of Arizona, a lot of it's in Yuma County. If you're eating green leafy vegetables in the winter in the spring, anywhere on North America it probably came from this one county, Yuma County in Arizona. Agriculture is so important for this state, for the southwest. One of the reasons is with the people. With the climate we have, we can grow a lot of food. It does take water. In the inflation reduction act, I was able to add $4 billion for this water crisis. We're now deploying that money.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Listening to this podcast, believe in science. I believe in science. I'm one of only three engineers in the United States Senate. We do science really well, peer-reviewed studies. Our country is really good at this. We don't get it right 100% of the time, right? And you got a hypothesis and you do your experiment and you make conclusions. Sometimes those will be modified for the most part. We get it right. And it's important that we listen to experts on this.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That carbon go up in the atmosphere. If we don't do something about this, well, you now spend a lot of time in Arizona. By the end of this century, Phoenix, if we stay on the business as usual plan, Phoenix will have twice as many days over a hundred degrees as it does today. Think about that for a second. We got a lot of days over 100 here. It is hot. So the thing is, first of all, folks.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“On the Senate today, I can't think of a single individual that doesn't believe that our planet is changing because of greenhouse gases, because of what we put into the atmosphere. I've seen this planet change over a decade. I flew my first space flight in 2001 and my fourth in 2011. And I remember on my first mission getting out of my seat on the first day, looking out the window, getting a really good view of the earth for the first time, and looking straight down and we're over South America. And I could see this big copper color river just winding through the jungle. It's like no other river on the planet. It's really impressive. A decade later on my fourth flight, same spot. What do you think you notice? It's not the river. You notice the deforestation, massive deforestation.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, worry when people don't believe in science because science doesn't care when people don't believe in science. It's going to happen anyway. And not vaccinate your children is a big mistake. You know, we have saved, I mean, one of the reasons why... decades that people live longer, one of the biggest reasons is vaccinations. And you stop vaccinating, you know, children. They're going to die at a younger age and then, you know, spreads through disease will spread through a population and takes us back in the wrong direction. And to have folks out there that are respected, that are advising their parents not to get vaccinated is a big problem.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah. I mean, you know, Secretary Austin is focused on this. Some folks will say it's a huge number of people. I don't believe that. I think it's small numbers. And DoD as a strategy to figure out who these folks are and then address it.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The reading test, essentially, that's what it is, the Azab to get in the military. That number has shrunken over the years. Yeah. We've got a recruiting problem right now especially in the enlisted ranks We do not want to go to mandatory service. That's one of the reasons why we are so effective. We have all volunteer force. Another strategy.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, we've got a lot of stuff to fix in this country. And one is we need a bigger population of folks that can serve in the military. When you consider the folks that can pass the physical fitness test, pass the medical exam, and can pass”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“To make sure that if we ever get in a fight with one of our adversaries, that we are as prepared as possible to win. And we would win those today. I think in any organization, the size of the United States military, we're going to have folks on the fringe and those other things you mentioned, you know, media being one, social media. You know, there's an opportunity to pull people off in a direction and down a rabbit hole. And that happens in any organization.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I spent 25 years in the United States Navy. I mean, I love being in the Navy and I wish I could be in the Navy some days instead of on Capitol Hill. Flying off of a ship. We've got the best navy in the world, the best military even today. I mean, we have the most effective, professional, capable, military force this planet has ever seen. You know, I mean, today. And we're going to continue. I'm going to work on the Armed Services Committee. You know, that's one of my top priorities.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I think the American people, especially moms, suburban mothers, want something done on this. And, you know, even in red states. And that's why we were able to accomplish something with 15 Republicans.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“First time anything was done in thirty years, and it wasn't easy, but it was bipartisan. And it provides a lot more funding for mental health, funding for states that want to expand red flag laws. It will affect folks that traffic in firearms and who are in the business of selling firearms with regards to background checks. So it'll expand the number of background checks. So there's a lot of good things in the legislation. folks on recognize that we have to do more.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You know, she continues to focus on this issue because it makes our country stand out in the worst of ways and for kids to have to go to school and worry about a mass shooter coming through the door. And I can't tell you how many times I've sat down with parents who kids whether kids were shot in school and died, and it is just heartbreaking. And it's devastating. After Yuvaldi, parents sitting in my office in the heart Senate office building who were just in a state of shock over what just happened to their child. And we shouldn't have to live in a country like this. And we need more compromise on this issue. And the American people, you know, there's a bunch of common sense solutions to this that most Americans support.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think it's drawn where we are today because of money in politics. You have a gun lobby with incredible resources that worked hard to get a bunch of folks elected. You've got folks on the other side that are trying to get sensible gun legislation passed. That's happened hundreds and hundreds of sensible bills in dozens of states. Which, by the way,”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Step in the right direction, we need universal background checks. We need red flag laws in states not just what we have with, you know, funding if a state wants to do a red flag law. We need a national red flag law. And there's other things we can do. And I continue to have these conversations with my colleagues in the Senate, including Republicans, on what more we can do because, I mean, I have a two-year-old. She's not two yet. Nearly two-year-old granddaughter. She has had her first lockdown in school already. I mean, it's daycare. I have a colleague whose 10-year-old grandson in Michigan just a couple weeks ago had a lockdown. Kid doesn't want to go to school anymore. Yeah.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And the marketing of that weapon is a problem on its own. And if you think that it's bad here right now in the United States, this could get a lot worse. My wife's out there working on this issue every single day. I worked on getting that bipartisan safer communities act across the finish line in the Senate. We got it passed. It's a good.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, the numbers are very low. You know, that's not a good argument. Some people like to collect weapons. Some are former members of the military. My belief is that an AR-15 or a weapon like it should not be in the hands of people who are not incredibly responsible, who had a background check, where there's a higher standard. It's now one of the most popular guns in America. Yeah, it's amazing. It's amazing.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think it depends on the person. Some people would, you know, who are supportive of the Second Amendment, like I am, but folks would make the case that they would need it for protection. The evidence, there isn't a lot of evidence that anyone has ever used an AR-15. There's some cases, a few cases, that they've used it to protect themselves or their families.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They work very well. And to own one, there should be a much higher standard. And if we had universal background checks that would raise the standard, you wouldn't be able to go to a gun show and buy an AR-15 without a background check. You can do that in a lot of states, including We could make that would reduce the number of AR-15s that get in the hands of people that shouldn't have them.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right. Well, and we did this in states to ourselves collectively through gerrymandering of house districts. I mean, why did we make that decision, right? So, I mean, parties benefit, Democrats and Republicans benefit from having these, you know, easy congressional districts to run in. And it drives people to the fringes. And I think we have to continue to look for ways to make competitive house races the norm across the country, not just like, I don't know what the number is right now when Gabby was serving in the house, or there were about 40 out of 435. That doesn't result in a House of Representatives that has an easy time working together.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I can't even tell you the statistics about how I vote. I make all my decisions on how I'm going to vote on anything based on what is in the best interest of Arizona and the country.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And accomplish things. We have so much potential as a country. I'd much rather be born here in the United States of America today than anywhere else on the planet. We're so good at solving problems. Lately, our politics have become divided and heeded. We can fix this. And I ultimately think we will. But it comes down to folks getting involved and not accepting and not think it's okay some of the stuff we see on cable news and organizing and working together. Both Democrats and Republicans. I mean, I am not a partisan. And, you know, that's what we need.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I didn't have to do the outrage thing. And I refused to do it. And, you know, I think it's important to look for moderates on both sides of the aisle and elect them. And the folks that are just throwing bombs across the aisle, getting on cable news and saying radical. disturbing things is not healthy for our country. I've got colleagues in the United States Senate, Republicans, who I work with all the time, who I really like and respect. There are a good number of them. And, you know, the same with Democrats. And we have to work harder as a nation to find folks that just want to bridge the gap and work together.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Held. Yeah, she was nine years old and had very high-minded ideas about service and democracy. Not typical of a nine year old and just wanted to meet Gabby and ask her a question. And for her life to be ended there so short and then to see this happen over and over again in our country.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, my understanding is Gabby is the first woman who was elected office in history of her country where there was an attempted assassination against member of Congress.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That we shouldn't go there, right? And, you know, so maybe he doesn't really believe it. Maybe he just decided to say it, but it is dangerous for a former president to say those things.”
2023-05-25 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 535 — Sen. Mark Kelly · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source