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  1. “A lot of the topics that we've talked about today are around how do you How do you balance? Whether it's running a company or different responsibilities with this. How do you kind of balance that? And I also just think that's very grounding to just. Believe that there is something that is much bigger than you that is guiding things.”

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  2. “The philosophical piece, I think the cultural piece is just about community and values, and that part of things, I think, has just become a lot more important to me since I've had kids. It's almost autopilot when you're a kid. kind of getting imparted two phase of your life but And I didn't really think about religion that much for a while. I was in college. Before I had kids. And then I think having kids has this way of really making you think about what traditions you want to impart and how you want to celebrate. Like, what balance you want in your life? And I mean, a bunch of the questions that you've asked and a bunch of the things that we're talking about.”

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  3. “Or just leading to the creation of different things that wouldn't have been possible otherwise. And so that's a value for me that matters deeply. And I just, I mean, I just love spending time with the kids and seeing that they sort of trying to impart this value to them. And it's like, I mean, nothing makes me happier than when I come home from work and I see my daughters building Legos on the table or something. It's like, all right. I did that when I was a kid. So many other people were doing this. And like, I hope you don't lose that spirit where when you kind of grow up and you want to just continue building different things no matter what it is, to me, that's a lot of what matters.”

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  4. “I think that that by itself is a good. And that kind of drives a lot of how I think about morality and my personal philosophy around what is a good life. I think it's one where you're Helping the people around you and your being a kind of positive, creative force in the world that is helping to bring new things into the world, whether they're amazing other people, kids.”

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  5. “Yeah, I think that there's a few different parts of this that are relevant. There's sort of a philosophical part and there's a cultural part. And one of the most basic lessons is right at the beginning of Genesis, right? It's like God creates the earth and creates people and creates people in God's image. And there's the question of, what does that mean? And the only context that you have about God at that point in the Old Testament is that God has created things. So I always thought that one of the interesting lessons from that is that There's a virtue in creating things. That is whether it's artistic or whether you're building things that are functionally useful for other people”

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  6. “I think we'll have the capacity to do something like that. And I think one of the big questions. That we've had to struggle with in the context of social networks is who gets to make that. And my answer to that in the context of the work that we're doing is that that should be your choice, right? I don't think anyone should be able to choose to make a lex bot that people can. Can choose to talk to and get to train that. We have this precedent of making some of these calls I mean, someone can create a page for a Lex fan club, but you can't create a page and say that you're Lex So I think that similarly, I think maybe someone maybe can make a, should be able to make an AI that's a lex admirer that someone can talk to. But I think it should ultimately be your call whether Is Alexei?”

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  7. “Physical changes just drive a lot of social patterns and behavior around like when you choose to have kids, right? Like just like all these, you know, that's not even subtle. That's a major one, right? But like, you know, how you design things around the house. So, yeah, I mean, I think it would, if the goal is to understand people as much as possible, I think that that's. Trying to model those sensations is probably somewhat important, but I think that there's a lot of value that can be created by having intelligence, even that is separate from that. It's a separate thing.”

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  8. “It depends on what the goal is. I think that there's this assumption in that question that intelligence should be kind of person-like, whereas as we were just talking about, you can have these greater than single human intelligent organisms like the stock market, which obviously do not have bodies and do not speak a language, right? And like, you know, and just kind of have their own. So, I don't know. My guess is there will be limits to what a system that is purely an intelligence can understand about the human condition without having the same, not just senses, but like Our bodies change as we get older, right? And we kind of evolve. And I think that those very subtle”

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  9. “Go on the roof after things. But it's like we designed this building and I put a park on the roof so that way that's like my meetings when I'm just doing kind of a one-on-one or talking to a couple of people. I have a very hard time just sitting. I feel like it gets super stiff. It feels really bad. But I don't know. Being physical is very important to me. I think I do not believe this gets to the question about AI. I don't think that a being is just a mind. And I think we're kind of meant to do things and like physically. Having that set of sensations and experiences around that, coupled with a mind to reason about them. But I don't know. I think it's important for balance to kind of get out, challenge yourself in different ways, learn different skills, clear your mind.”

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  10. “Yeah, I try to. Unless I'm just so tired that I just need to relax. But then I'll still try to go for a walk or something. I mean, even here, I don't know, have you been on the roof here yet?”

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  11. “Yeah, so I mean, I've right now I'm focused most of my workouts on fighting so MMA. But I don't know. I mean, maybe if you're a professional, you can do that every day. I can't. I just get, you know, it's too many bruises and things that you need to recover from. So I do that three to four times a week. And then the other day is I just try to do a mix of things like just cardio conditioning, strength building, mobility.”

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  12. “I was like, maybe I can make you a very lightweight vest, but I didn't think it was good for this. So she basically did a quarter Murph. So she ran a quarter mile. And then did 25 pull ups, 50 push ups, and 75 air squats, then ran another quarter mile. And in 15 minutes, which I was pretty impressed by, and my five-year-old too. So I was excited about that. And I'm glad that I'm teaching them kind of the value of... On a physicality, right? I think a good day for Max, my daughter, is when she gets to go to the gym with me and cranks out a bunch of pull-ups. And I love that about her. I mean, I think it's like good. Hopefully I'm teaching her some good lessons.”

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  13. “And then the 200 push ups, and then the 300 squats in cereal. And obviously, if you're doing them unpartitioned, then it takes longer to get through the 100 pull-ups because anytime you're resting in between the pull-ups, you're not also doing push-ups and squats. So, yeah, so I'm sure my unpartition time would be quite a bit slower. But no, I think at the end of this. I don't know. First of all, I think it's a good way to honor Memorial Day, right? It's. This lieutenant Murphy basically was one of his favorite exercises, and I just try to do it on Memorial Day each year. And it's a good workout. I got my older daughters to do it with me this time. My oldest daughter wants a weight vest because she sees me doing it with a weight vest. I don't know if a seven year old should be using a weight vest. To do pull ups, but”

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  14. “Nah, I think I've done it a little faster before, but not much. I mean, and of my friends, I did not win on Memorial Day. One of my friends did it actually several minutes faster than me. But just to clear up one thing that I think was, I saw a bunch of questions about this on the internet. There are multiple ways to do the Murph challenge. There's a kind of partitioned mode where you do sets of pull-ups, push-ups, and squats together. And then there's unpartitioned where you do the 100 pull-ups.”

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  15. “So there is a balance in here because if a lot of the input that The systems are being trained on is basically coming from feedback from people, then a lot of the development does need to happen in human time, right? It's not like a machine. We'll just be able to go learn all the stuff about how people think about stuff. There's a cycle to how this needs to work.”

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  16. “Form something which is dramatically more intelligent than any individual in the world. Something that seems to exist and that we seem to be able to harness in a productive way for our society as long as we basically build these structures and balance with each other. So I don't know. I mean, that at least gives me hope that as we advance the technology, and I don't know how long exactly it's going to be, but you asked when is this going to exist? I think to some degree we already have many organizations in the world that are smarter than a single human. And that seems to be something that is generally productive and advancing humanity.”

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  17. “Another example that I think is even more removed from kind of the way we think about the personification of intelligence, which is often implied in some of these questions, is think about something like the stock market. The stock market takes inputs. It's a distributed system. Probably millions of people around the world are basically voting every day by choosing what to invest in. But it's basically this This organism or structure that is smarter than any individual that we use to allocate capital as efficiently as possible around the world. And I do think that This notion that there are already these cybernetic Systems that are either melding The intelligence of multiple people together or melding the intelligence of multiple people and technology together”

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  18. “Sure. So I still don't think I have any particular insight on when a singular AI system that is a general intelligence will get created. But I think the one thing that most people... The discourse that I've seen about this haven't really grappled with is that we do seem to have Organizations and structures in the world that exhibit greater than human intelligence already. So one example is a company. It acts as an entity. It has a singular brand. Obviously, it's a collection of people, but I certainly hope that Meta with tens of thousands of people makes smarter decisions than one person. But I think that that would be pretty bad if it didn't.”

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  19. “I tend to be pretty optimistic about breakthroughs too. So, I mean, so I think if you normalized for my normal optimism, then maybe it would be even slower than what I'm saying. But even within that, I'm not even opining on the question of how many breakthroughs are required to get to general intelligence because no one knows.”

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  20. “Would suggest that we're not just going to stack in a breakthrough on top of breakthrough on top of breakthrough every six months or something. Right now, I think it will, guessing, I would guess that it will take somewhat longer in between these I don't know”

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  21. “In that Gartner hype cycle, there's like the hype, and then there's the trough of disillusionment after when people think that there's a chance that, hey, okay, there's a big breakthrough. Maybe we're about to get another big breakthrough. And it's like, actually you're not about to get another breakthrough. Maybe you're actually just going to have to sit with this one for a while. And, you know, it could be five years, it could be 10 years, it could be 15 years until you figure out the kind of the next big thing that needs to get figured out. But I think that the fact that we just had this breakthrough. Sort of makes it so that we're at a point of almost a very wide error bars on what happens next. I think the traditional technical view of like looking at the industry.”

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  22. “Maybe we're only a couple of big steps away from reaching something that looks more like general intelligence. Okay, that's one side of the argument. And the other side, which is what we've historically seen a lot more, is that a breakthrough leads to”

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  23. “I don't know. I mean, that's pure speculation. I think it's very clear just taking a step back that we had a big breakthrough in the last year, right? Where the LLMs and diffusion models basically reached a scale where they're able to do some pretty interesting things. And then I think the question is what happens from here. And just to paint the two extremes. On one side, it's like, okay, we just had one breakthrough. If we just have another breakthrough like that, or maybe two, then we could have something that's truly crazy, right? And is... Just like so much more advanced and on that side of the argument, it's like, okay, well, maybe we're”

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  24. “Yeah, and to be clear, I feel quite confident in the assessment that open sourcing models now is net positive. I think there's a good argument that in the future it will be too, even as you get closer to superintelligence. But I've not certainly not decided on that yet. And I think that it becomes a somewhat more complex set of questions that I think people will have time to debate and will also be informed by what happens between now and then to make those decisions. We don't have to necessarily just debate that in theory right now.”

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  25. “So Think that there's a chance that that ends up being the way that this goes to, a pretty good chance, and that Having this be open both leads to a healthier development of the technology and also leads to a more balanced distribution of the technology in a way that strike me as good values to aspire to.”

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  26. “The right approach. And I think it's a categorically different question today when we're not close to superintelligence. I think that there's a good chance that even once we get closer to superintelligence, open sourcing remains the right approach, even though I think at that point it's a somewhat different debate. But I think part of that is that I think one of the best ways to ensure that the system is as secure and safe as possible. Because it's not just about a lot of people having access to it. It's the scrutiny that kind of comes with building an open source system. But I think that this is a pretty widely accepted thing about open source is that you have the code out there so anyone can see the vulnerabilities. Anyone can kind of mess with it in different ways. People can spin off their own projects and experiment in a ton of different ways. And the net result of all of that is that the systems just get hardened and get to be a lot safer and more secure.”

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  27. “What a question I mean, look, I think realistically this gets back to the open. I don't think that the world will be best served by. Any small number of organizations. Having this without it being something that is more broadly available. And I think if you look through history, It's when there are these sort of like unipolar advances and things that and like power imbalances that they're doing to being kind of Weird situations. So, this is one of the reasons why I think open source is generally”

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  28. “Productivity growth in the economy, but it's the autonomy part of this that I think we really need to make progress on how to govern these things responsibly before we The capacity for them to make a lot of decisions on their own or give them goals or things like that. And that's a research problem, but I do think that to some degree these are somewhat separable things.”

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  29. “It's actually the case that relatively simple and unintelligent things that have runaway autonomy and just spread themselves or it's like we have a word for that. It's a virus, right? I mean, like it can be simple computer code that is not particularly intelligent but just spreads itself and does a lot of harm. Biologically or computer. I just think that these are somewhat separable things. And a lot of what I think we need to develop when people talk about safety and responsibility is really the governance on the autonomy that can be given to systems. To me, if I were a policymaker or thinking about this, I would really want to think about that distinction between these, where I think building intelligent systems will be can create a huge advance in terms of people's quality of life.”

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  30. “Development of intelligence along the same lines, where just like our neocortex doesn't have free will or autonomy, we might develop these wildly intelligent systems that are much more intelligent than our neocortex, have much more capacity, but are in the same way that our neocortex is sort of subservient and is used as a tool by our kind of simple impulse brain. I think that it's not out of the question that very intelligent systems that have the capacity to think will kind of act as that is sort of an extension of the near cortex doing that. So I think my own view is that Where we really need to be careful is on the development of autonomy and how we think about that.”

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  31. “That may not manifest the safety concerns that people are saying in the sense that, I mean, just if you look at human biology, it's like, all right, we have our neocortexes, where all the thinking happens, right? But it's not really calling the shots at the end of the day. We have a much more primitive old brain structure for which our neocortex, which is this powerful machinery, is basically just a kind of prediction and reasoning engine to help it kind of like our very simple brain Decide how to plan and do what it needs to do in order to achieve these very kind of basic impulses. I think that you can think about some of the”

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  32. “The realization that the size of models that we're talking about now in terms of what we're building are quite far from the superintelligence type concerns that people raise. But I think once we get a couple steps closer to that, I know as we do get closer, I think that those, you know, there are going to be some novel risks and issues about how we make sure the systems are safe for sure. I guess here, just to take the conversation as somewhat different direction. I think in some of these debates around safety, I think the concepts of intelligence and Autonomy or like the being of the thing as an analogy, they get kind of conflated together. And I think it very well could be the case that you can make something and scale intelligence quite far.”

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  33. “I don't know if mundane is the right word, but there's concerns that already exist, right, about people using AI tools to do harmful things of the type that we're already aware, whether we talked about fraud or scams or different things like that. And that's going to be a pretty big set of challenges that the company is working on this they're going to need to grapple with. Regardless of whether there is an existential concern as well at some point down the road. So I do worry that to some degree you can People can get a little too focused on On some of the tail risk and then not do as good of a job as we need to on the things that you can be almost certain are going to come down the pipe as real risks that kind of manifest themselves in the near term. So for me, I've spent most of my time on that once I kind of made”

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  34. “Anytime where there's a number of serious people who are raising a concern that is that existential about something that you're involved with, I think you have to think about it. So I've spent quite a bit of time thinking about it from that perspective. The thing that I where I basically have come out on this for now is I do think that there are over time I think that we need to think about this even more as we as we approach something that could be closer to superintelligence. I just think it's pretty clear to anyone working on these projects today that we're not there and one of my concerns is that we spent a fair amount of time on this before but there are more”

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  35. “I think if you want to play games, then I think that you want to design the system in a different way. And we're more focused on social experiences, entertainment experiences. Whereas if what you want is to make sure that the text that you read on a screen is as crisp as possible, then you need to make the design and cost trade-offs that they made that lead you to making a $3,500 device. So I think that there is a use case for that for sure, but I just think that the companies, we've basically made different designs.”

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  36. “The hen tracking in quest three and the color tracking is a big step up from the last generation. And one of the demos that we have is basically an MR experience teaching you how to play piano where basically highlights the notes that you need to play and it's like it's hands. It's no controllers. I think if you care about gaming, having a controller allows you to have a more tactile feel. It allows you to capture fine motor movement much more precisely than what you can do with hands without something that you're touching. So again, I think there are certain questions which are just around what use cases are you optimizing for.”

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  37. “Well, I mean, look, there are certain design trade-offs in this where they made this point about not wanting to have controllers, which on the one hand, there's a certain elegance about just being able to navigate the system with eye gaze and hand tracking. And by the way, you'll be able to just navigate quest with your hands too if that's what you want.”

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  38. “Being more active, right? So there's fitness, there's gaming, there are those things. Whereas I think a lot of the use cases that you saw in Apple's launch material were more around people sitting, people looking at screens, which are great. I think that you will replace your laptop over time with a headset. But I think in terms of how the different use cases that the companies are going after, they're a bit different for where we are right now.”

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  39. “My understanding just based on rumors, I don't have any special knowledge on this, is that Apple is building about one million of their device, right? So just in terms of what you kind of expect in terms of sales numbers, I just think that this is, I mean, Quest is going to be the primary thing that people in the market will continue using for the foreseeable future. And then obviously over the long term, it's up to the companies to see how well we each executed the different things that we're doing. But we kind of come it from different places. We're very focused on social interaction, communication.”

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  40. “That I think is going to be a very, that could be quite good And then obviously, over time, the companies are just focused on somewhat different things, right? Apple has always, I think, focused on building really kind of high-end things, whereas our focus has been on, it's just we have a more democratic ethos. We want to build things that are accessible to a wider number of people. We've sold tens of millions of Quest devices.”

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  41. “Will make a lot of people who are fans of their product really consider that. And then, of course, the $3,500 price, on the one hand, I get it with all the stuff that they're trying to pack in there. On the other hand, a lot of people aren't going to find that to be affordable. So I think that there's a chance that them coming in actually increases demand for the overall space and that Quest 3 is actually the primary beneficiary of that because a lot of the people who might say, hey, I'm going to give another consideration to this. Or now I understand maybe what mixed reality is more. And Quest 3 is the best one on the market that I can afford. And it's great also, right? I think that that's, and in our own way, I think there are a lot of features that we have where we're leading on. So I think that.”

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  42. “Well, I saw the materials when they launched it. I haven't gotten a chance to play with it yet. So kind of take everything with a grain of salt. But a few high-level thoughts. I mean, first, I do think that this is. A certain level of validation for the category, right? Where we were the primary folks out there before saying, hey, I think that this virtual reality, augmented reality, mixed reality, this is going to be a big part of the next computing platform. I think having Apple come in and share that vision.”

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  43. “40% thinner. And the other thing that I think is good about it is, yeah, so mixed reality was the first big thing. The second is it's just a great VR headset. I mean, it's got 2x the graphics processing power, 40% sharper screens, 40% thinner, more comfortable, better strap architecture, all this stuff that if you liked Quest II, I think that this is just going to be, and it's like all the content that you might have played in Quest 2 is just going to be sharper automatically and look better in this. I think people are really going to like it. Yeah. So this fall.”

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  44. “There will probably be better and more Zen ways to do that than the Zen game you're describing. But you're right that the basic idea of sort of having Your physical environment on pass through, but then being able to bring in different elements. I mean, I think it's going to be super powerful. And in some ways, I think that these are mixed realities also we will get AR glasses that are not kind of the goggles form factor of the current generation of headsets that people are making. But I think a lot of the experiences that developers are making for mixed reality have basically just have a kind of a hologram that you're putting in the world will hopefully apply once we get the air glasses too. Now that's got its own whole set of challenges and it's”

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  45. “You don't necessarily want Windows added to your living room where zombies come out of, but yes, in the context of that game, it's, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's good.”

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  46. “Yeah, and it so I think it's a completely new capability that will unlock a lot of different content. And I think it'll also just make the experience more comfortable for a set of people who didn't want to have only fully immersive experiences. I think if you want experiences we're grounded in, you know, your living room and the physical world around you, now you'll be able to have that too. And I think that that's pretty exciting.”

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  47. “It's like you just were like in a conference room or your living room and you have the guy there and you're boxing him and you're fighting him and it's like”

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  48. “In quest three is at an even better and more advanced level than what we were able to deliver in Quest Pro. So I'm really proud of where we are with Quest 3 on that. It's going to work with all of the virtual reality titles and everything that existed there. So people who want to play fully immersive games, social experiences, fitness, all that stuff will work. But now you'll also get mixed reality too. Which I think people really like because it's sometimes you want to be super immersed in a game, but a lot of the time, especially when you're moving around, if you're active, like you're doing some fitness experience, let's say you're doing boxing or something. It's like you kind of want to be able to see the rumor around you so that way you know that like I'm not going to punch a lamp or something like that. And I don't know if you got to play with this experience, but you basically have the, I mean, it's just sort of like a fun little demo that we put together, but it's, um,”

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  49. “Thank you. I'm super excited about it. We put a lot of work into making the device both as good as possible and as affordable as possible because a big part of our mission and ethos here is we want people to be able to connect with each other. We want to reach and we want to serve a lot of people, right? We want to bring this technology to everyone, right? So we're not just trying to serve like a elite, a wealthy crowd. We want to We really want this to be accessible. So that is in a lot of ways an extremely hard technical problem because we don't just have the ability to put an unlimited amount of hardware and thus we needed to basically deliver something that works really well but in an affordable package and we started with Quest Pro last year it was it's $1,500 and now we've lowered the price to a thousand but in a lot of ways the mixed reality”

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  50. “Basically, two big new things that we've added to quest three over quest two. The first is high resolution mixed reality. And the basic idea here is that you can think about virtual reality as you have the headset and all the pixels are virtual and you're basically immersed in a different world. Mixed reality is where you see the physical world around you and you can place virtual objects in it, whether that's a screen to watch a movie or a projection of your virtual desktop or you're playing a game where like zombies are coming out through the wall and you need to shoot them. Or we're playing Dungeons and Dragons or some board game and we just have a virtual version of the board in front of us while we're sitting here. All that's possible in mixed reality. And I think that that is going to be the next big capability on top of virtual reality.”

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