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Maro Itoje

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“Would you say is that the culture of Westminster, that the machinery of government, or is that just the pressure of the media?”
2025-09-21 · The Rest Is Politics: Leading · 154. Maro Itoje: Inequality, Identity, and Hope · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What would you say to young people going into politics now? Would you encourage them? Would you say approach with two eyes opened?”
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“Negatives were not hopeful for the future. You have to look for the optimism and only through looking and believing in the optimism can things change”
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“Access it gives you. So I think sometimes we forget that as a nation, we forget how powerful we are and the influence that this nation has. Obviously, if you compare it to a hundred years ago, you will say it's dwindling. But if you look at it as of today, it's a nation that many other parts of the world would dream of. And I believe in the optimism of people. When I go out and meet people and talk to people and see what they're about, see what they're doing, see the ideas that are coming. There's nothing but to be hopeful and to be optimistic about the future. I think the hope is something that we control. We as humans control. It's the same thing. Like if I put it into a rugby context, if after we lose a match, if we sit in our misery or sit in the...”
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“Probably goes without saying, but I'm a man of faith. I'm a Christian. So that always gives me hope. And over the last 18 months or so, I've become deeper and deeper in that faith. So that is for me a real sense of hope. I think despite the challenges that we face, even looking at the UK, I think sometimes we forget we're a great country. This is a great country which has a lot of opportunities and it's a place where you would rather be if I was to roll the dice or the lottery of birth and had to pick numerous other countries to be born in. The UK would definitely be up there with one of the places you want to be because of the opportunity, because of the rule of law, because of the economy and the”
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“You know, the type of man that I want to be, hopefully the family that I have and the career and the difference that I hope to make in that regard. So that's what I will try and do. But easier said than done is easier said than done.”
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“Unfortunately, I don't score tries that often, but I definitely feel the energy and I guess the public acclaim when we are successful. And you're right, you can't replicate that. You can't replace that. But what I've observed from people, and this is not only professional rug players or athletes who then retire, also retired military personnel or retired people who've been in an institution for a long period of time. I think the ones that struggle, I think you can struggle for a number of reasons, but the ones that really struggle are the ones who are looking backwards and are living in the past of what they've done. What I want to do and how I want to be is look positively forward into the future and throw all of myself at what happens next.”
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“And this is where I think to what I was saying earlier, where I feel there's a little bit of a communication problem. I don't think the public are fully aware of the facts. And even the positives of the government and the things that they are doing quite well. I listened to or watched the press conference yesterday with Trump and Sir Kia. And many of the progress is the nuances of that new trade investment or the adapted trade deal I'm sure hasn't really got much cut through today.”
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“Is more and more feverish to harm and danger and more so even on a global level when inequality rises, what happens, those who are in more disadvantaged environments, societies, what do they look to do? They look for past as new. They look to go to societies where I guess they foresee a better life for themselves and their families. And that leads to an increase in pressure in migration. I don't know the stats off head, but there must be a ridiculous that in countries, particularly in the developing world, once there's a war there, how many people look to leave that place and then go to a new country, whether that's in the west or the east or whatever, but I'm sure it's stark.”
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“Yeah, and I think as inequality rises, as things become more and more tough on an individual level, you start to think, oh, how am I able to survive? I need to protect myself. I need to protect my family. And I think that has probably led to the sentiment that you're describing. And I think this is true from a national level, so within the UK, but also on a global level, that when inequality or human rights or poverty rises, it's not good for national unity because when the inequality rises, the sentiment between the two classes, for the lack of a better word, becomes more and more heightened. So it creates an environment that is”
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“I currently do now with my foundation, the Pearl Fund is to try and do that. We support kids from the start of their primary education to the very end of their education. So that's almost the shy of two decades worth of support. And I think we need long-lasting things to really make change.”
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“We've kind of alluded to earlier, I've been involved with a number of charities in the past and I've seen some of their programs and some of the programs have been good and you see the people, the kids, the individuals in said program and they're having a good time. You can see the progress. You can see the growth. But as soon as those individuals go back into their environment or they go back into their unfortunate disadvantaged society, it almost seems as if they were never really there. So I think the programs that make sense and make long-lasting change are the ones that are there for the long term. Whether that is a child or whether that is taking someone out of poverty, it needs to be sustained. It needs to be over a period of time. So some of the work that”
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“But in all seriousness is something that is of deep interest to me. People often ask me, what would you do if you weren't a rugby player? And I actually find that a very difficult question to answer because I have so many interests and I think I could have gone any which way and one of them was or is politics. So I'm not sure. I'm not putting anything off the table. The opportunity to affect real change, the opportunity to put legislation in place for the betterment of society I think is a very attractive one but it also has its drawbacks as well.”
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“I wouldn't be able to give you much. I try and stay around the areas that are of interest to me, especially things like charities or things to that nature. There's so many good causes in the world, but I can't support every single one. So I've chosen the areas in which are of interest to me, African art, education, poverty, inequality. And they're the sort of the areas that I tend to stay on.”
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“I think an individual, and this is whether you play sport or any Tom, Dick or Harry on the street, I think you have to know who you are. First and foremost, you have to know who you are. You have to know what you're passionate about and you have to have a strong sense of what your values are. I think once you establish those three things, I think everything else flows from there. If this was a show about ballet, maybe I'll do it, but this is ballet I wouldn't be able to give you much.”
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“That's the amazing thing about the lions. The lions is well and truly a very, very unique institution. And I know you have a little bit of experience there where you have four different nations. They have four different types of ways of playing, four different philosophies, and you all blend. And it's the cultural differences, it's the language differences, et cetera, et cetera. And if anything, that also goes to show the power of sport, the unity of sport that you can put your differences aside for a greater goal. And that is something that I've been very, very honored and privileged to be a part of.”
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“You're sorry for them, or what? You never want to injure someone to the extent that they break their bones or they get injured. But you do want to impose yourself on them. So I would never revel in the fact that I injured someone or I broken their ligaments or bones or whatever. That's not what it's about. But I would be lying if I said that I didn't want to, I think hurt. You want to go as far as to hurt to help your team win. It was all with a purpose.”
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“And be irrational and be reckless. So you don't want to do that. But you also want to impose your physicality on yourself.”
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“You want to dominate them. You want to dominate them. Ultimately, the biggest thing is to win. So I don't cloud my judgment so much that I want to hurt Rory so much that I make bad decisions because that's also a side of the game where you can see red. Not too far.”
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“But to have that sort of mindset is not just about tactics and technique. There's an emotive mentality side of the game, which you have to get right. Rugby is almost a blend of extreme aggressive personalities and extreme aggressive mindsets. But within that, there's also an art to it. There's a precision to it. So it's always a balance between the two, whereas other sports, I don't think.”
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“Yeah, so Rugby is an incredibly emotive game. I think not that I've played football at a very much lower level, but when I compare rugby to gain like football or athletics, there's something that is particularly unnatural about rugby in the sense that I get a ball and I run as hard as I can into you.”
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“On a serious note, I actually think that has a role to play because there's so much money at play, it probably distorts your feeling of self-importance and how you interact with people. And suddenly your decisions carry a lot more weight around people because they want to be around you because of the potential money that they can get. I've interacted with a lot of footballers and most of the ones I've interacted with are extremely friendly.”
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“I think it was his Euro runs where they got to the semi-final. I think I was away at the time and I was like, I want to be in England because the energy of the whole place was amazing. So that's another big thing. And even on top of that, you see what the red roses are doing at the moment in rugby. You see what Team GB have traditionally done with Olympics, particularly 2012. You see the impact of the Premier League. Like the Premier League is potentially one of the most influential institutions that this country has. in terms of exhibiting British power or English power.”
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“Yeah, sport is massive. I almost can't fully describe how influential it is. So even breaking it down to maybe a grassroots level, you know, I know you're a big advocate of mental health and the works and the wonders that sport can have, exercise, can have on any individual's mental health is massive. The social aspect in order to go around and meet people and interact with people is, again, another huge thing. But also the importance of teams doing well, national teams doing well and the effect that has for the culture. So in particular, football, when the England football team is doing well, I think the economy, I don't know the stats, but the economy must skyrocket. People are going out, people are spending time, people are socializing. I remember one of Southgate's very first.”
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“Very close to your brother. Very close, I lived with my brother for about seven or eight years. So we're very close. But it's just, you know, things are never just one decision.”
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“When you win, you don't win well enough. But yeah, it's just a lot of commitment, a lot of sacrifice. I've had to sacrifice a number of social engagements, even as we speak now. One of my best friends is getting married in Marrakesh and I can't be there because I've had to train. And that's the same. My own brother, he's getting married again in a couple of weeks in America and I can't be there because of rugby.”
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“I've had to go through, I don't even know how many thousands and thousands of extremely tough sessions pushing your body to the limit, dealing with criticism, dealing with either poor performance, dealing with the pressure, both self-pressure, the pressure of the environment, and also external pressure. And one thing that I think rugby has actually set me up, particularly the higher and higher level you play at, is about how one deals with pressure. And whilst it's a blessing, it's an extremely high pressure job. And you play in front of 80,000 or so people when you play for England. You have another set of fans who absolutely hate you. You have your fans who have such a high expectation, anything but a win is a failure. Even sometimes...”
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“In many ways, it's an absolute blessing. I feel incredibly fortunate and lucky that I've been able to play rugby as my only real profession in my life so far. It's a lot of hard work, as you can expect.”
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“Yeah, I guess as a black man growing up in modern Britain, or I'll say any minority really, you're obviously conscious of it because in this scenario, you're the other. You're the minority. So just as the same way, if you were growing up in India, you would be conscious of it because you're the other. throughout my life has been instances of racism yeah there have been but generally speaking most people that More and more positive space in that regard.”
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“Yeah, absolutely. Of course. I think I can't remember who I listened recently and someone said, anyone who is center-right to probably moderate left. And I would say that probably encompasses most people within the UK. But everyone should really want this government to succeed because otherwise if this government doesn't succeed, general sentiment is like we're then looking at the extremes. We're looking at either far right or far left and both I don't think are what is needed.”
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“What the government we have now, whether it's Tory or Labour, every government would struggle under the circumstances we find ourselves in.”
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“Well, you know, there's no doubt that probably, well, it's difficult because there's very different circumstances, as you know. They are facing Number of challenges, particularly from an economic point of view, which is limiting what they can actually do. There seems to be a communication problem. They probably aren't getting their message out there as much as they would like. But it's tough because we're not growing. The economy is almost stagnant. I think as a society, we've become accustomed to having a good healthcare system. I know throughout, as long as I've been alive, there's always been complaints. But by most measures, if you were to compare it to other parts of the world, a good healthcare system and good public service, I guess enough police. Whereas now due to budgets, everything is being constrained. On top of that, cost of living, everything feels constrained. So, you know, in reality, it almost doesn't matter.”
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“Most of my early consciousness was in the new labor kind of area, new labor years. So I guess, first of all, they were the only real government that I was conscious of. I wasn't conscious when they were in the wilderness for all those years. And I guess in principle, I agree with the general philosophy of it of modernizing the country, looking to challenge and tackle inequality, understanding the role of business and, I guess, individual liberties and freedoms, but also want to provide society where everyone grows and everyone can flourish. And yeah, I think there was an understanding that to be progressive, it's important for all of those things to move in the right direction.”
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“All right, so maybe a classroom of 10 of us or so. And he said, obviously none of you can vote, but if you could vote, who would you vote for? Put your hand up if you vote Tory, then all of a sudden eight hands went up in the air, looking around. Then they said, put your hand up if you evote Labour, then I put my hand up and one other person put that hand up. This is probably not the best way to make friends here. But I guess, yeah, it's always been an area of interest.”
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“Very good question. I would say I'm quite political. My politics, where did it come from? I think I had a natural interest in this area. I think I've always been somewhat interested in history and the reason why certain figures did certain things. And I guess the more and more I've dived into it, it became more and more interesting. So if I get my dates right, I think I moved to Harrow in 2010. And that was the time where Gordon Brown and David Cameron were and Nick Klager, of course, the 2010 election. So I was studying politics at the time. I was eagerly there. One of my first politics lessons and the teacher was a little bit quirky and he was, he said.”
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“Yeah, so for context throughout my education, I probably straddled the private and state school. offering in terms of what is available to the kids but it's also perhaps a slightly different mindset i remember this this story vividly when i went to harrow and i was speaking to one of my teammates on on the rugby team and it was just after we got our gcse grades and you know i was pretty happy with my grades i got mainly as and i was you know really positive um then he said oh and kind of shook his head Then I was like, what did you think I was dumb or something? Then he was like, no, I thought you were a lot smarter. I say that story to say that the level of what they expect from themselves was also a lot higher though.”
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“Is almost a cultural thing at play which doesn't necessarily help even if you're talking about doing business in Nigeria sometimes it's a little bit of corruption is almost part of the way you do business. You have to almost have to factor that in. You have to understand a little bit about that. But that's not to paint Nigeria with a general brush, the whole of the society are not like that. And if you go to Nigeria, you'll see people doing amazing work in that space. So I'm not here to necessarily talk down on Nigeria. But I think as you say, you have to, you know, we have to be real. We have to acknowledge that there's challenges in terms of governance historically. And that is a massive part of the puzzle in which that we need to get right in order for us to progress the way we want.”
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“Absolutely, that's definitely had a role to play. We've had several governments who are not acting in the best interest of their people. And when you see that on a consistent basis, year after year, decade after decade, it has an effect. So the power, the real power to change that is in the hands of, in this case, Nigerian government, but we can use any other government as an example whether we're talking about India or whether we're talking about Ghana or whether we're talking about Eritrea. The philosophy is the same. Like the government needs to do better in creating an environment where wealth can grow.”
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“The power, the real power to tackle poverty is in the hands of said governments. And said governments need to see this as an urgent priority, needs to be at the forefront of their agenda because with rising poverty means rising inequality. With rising inequality is probably going to lead to rising civil unrest.”
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“Yeah, it's quite sad over the last year or so. We've seen major powers like the UK and US cut their aid. And whilst it's challenging because of the, I guess, the political and the defense factors pertaining to the UK and US, but I'm also a big believer that no matter how much the UK or US or Western powers spend on aid, the ones who have a true sense of tackling poverty is in the hands of those who are facing it. So by that, I first mean the government. So whether we're talking about poverty and just, you know, poverty exists everywhere, whether it's the UK, US, Nigeria, Rwanda, or anywhere in Asia, it covers all those places. But if we focus on the developing world for a second, I'm a big believer.”
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“Say it's marginally deeper than that. I think when I moved into my first apartment in 2015, I wanted to decorate it with some art and I was looking for some African art and I couldn't find any. I went to Nigeria and I basically just fell in love with that African art. And I think perhaps the deeper side to it was the art kind of made me feel connected to Nigeria even though I'm not there. And it kind of was almost a bridge and I felt a connection to the art that I didn't feel for other types of art from different parts of the world. So it really spoke to my soul.”
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“Most societies, in most cultures, but if I was sitting down in the living room, then suddenly my auntie or uncle walked in, the expectation is not about even being polite. The expectation is that I get up and give them my seat or at least offer them my seat. Even the way we greet in my language, in Urubu, so when I was to see someone who is older than me, the greeting would be Migwa. the direct translation is I'm on my knees, then they would respond render, which means get up. So that just goes to give you a little bit of the flavor.”
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“So there was a lot of people in and out of my house. So my nuclear family was myself, my brother, sister, and my two parents. And it was very, very rare to have only us in the house. And I think that speaks to the magnetic personality that my mom in particular is people just love being around her. People love coming in and out. So there were a lot of people that had that kind of family feel. The food, even today, if I go to my house, my parents don't live too far from here. If I was to drive there now, the fridge would be full. They have two fridge freezers and a deep freezer. And it's always full. Even now, so it's the food, even some of the customs in and around respect, respect for your elders. I guess in”
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“Nigerian household, Nigerian customs, Nigerian food, Nigerian traditions, but obviously we're living in this wonderful city of London, so there was a, I guess, Of my friends, they almost call it hyphenated identities where you're kind of sailing between the two”
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“Yeah, so I was born in London. I love London, by the way. I think London is a great city. I'm a big fan of it. But I was born in London in 1994 to Nigerian parents. My parents were both born and raised in Nigeria. So as I'm sure you're aware, Rory, but to our listeners, Nigeria is made up of a number of different tribes. There's over 100 of them. And I'm part of one of the minority tribes called the Urubo tribe. And my parents are both very proud Urubu Nigerian individuals. And they moved when they got married to London to make London their home. And they started having us, when I say us, myself and my siblings there. And we've kind of lived this, I guess, jewel. Nationality life where in the house was very Nigerian. We grew up.”
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“Yes, as you say, the world is full of challenges, is full of things to be wary about and things to be conscious about. However, what is life without hope? What is life if you're living in the despair? What is life if you're dwelling in the negativity? I like to look at the positives and things. And whilst there are a number of challenges in the world, whether it's domestically, internationally, there's still a number of wonderful things that are taking place and amazing things that are happening. So there's loads to be hopeful and cheery about.”
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“I had two weddings. Both were in London, but one was a traditional Nigerian wedding, which hence the confusion. But now it was great.”
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“First of all, thank you again. Thank you, Rory. I'm very happy to be here, as I said, off air. I'm a longtime listener and admirer of the podcast. I'm very honoured to be asked. I was wondering what took you so long to ask me, but I'll let that one slide. So yes, I recently got married in London and it was an amazing affair, really.”
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