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Martina Navratilova

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  1. “I think they do a pretty good job in tennis. They even take blood sometimes and that they don't just wait after the player is out of the tournament. So they test pretty rigorously and they do out of competition testing as well. So you have to give them a schedule. And it's pretty intense. And I think for tennis, certainly there are drugs that would be helpful, but it's such a complex sport that a drug for example bicycling, it's all about endurance. It's very specific. For tennis, it's much more than just that. But there are certainly drugs that would be helpful and they're trying to do their best. But usually there are people that are still ahead of the game in that regard. But we try to do the best that we can. It can certainly be better. But if people really want to cheat, I think they can still do that. Unfortunately.”

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  2. “Well, it goes back to what happened, you know, just breaking down why I lost, was it just a bad day or did I not prepare properly? You know, something broke down technically, was it tactics? Did I get tired? Did I not sleep well? So there's no bad advice. It's just figuring out the problem and then figure a solution to it. Always staying in the solution. And this is what we're going to work on so that it doesn't happen again. Just try to minimize those possibilities and keep trying to get better.”

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  3. “That way. You couldn't actually see the ball. So now they have Hawkeye. I'm like, God, I wish they had that in my day. I would have won a few more matches and wouldn't have to color my hair because, you know, I got a lot of gray hairs from those bad line calls. Nowadays, there's no stress. There's no stress about line goes. It's fantastic.”

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  4. “We're not captured nowadays. You can watch the players play just about every match they play, especially the top ones. It's always somewhere. Yeah, I mean, you know, I come from the days where the VHS didn't even exist. First time I saw myself actually hit a ball in a video. I think I was like 16 years old. I remember looking at photos of other players and flipping it so I could see what they look like left-handed. So I could compare myself or I would mirror myself in the mirror so I could see what I looked like right-handed and then compare it to the other players because you have an image and being a lefty, I didn't see that. So yeah, but yeah, there's some stuff on YouTube I think you can catch enough but the quality of the video is not that good and watching Wimbler on TV on our black and white grainy screen that was this big you only knew that the ball was there because the players moved.”

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  5. “Thank you. All the hands are still there. The eyes are still there, but the legs, but I don't practice it. I don't practice fast switch. The fast switch is gone because I just can't get myself fired up. But thank you. But yeah, it's a shame that they did not have so many matches where...”

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  6. “Don't love it. They play, but they don't love it, which is fine with me. My wife wanted them to be tennis players, and I had somebody else work with them. I worked with them sometimes. The older one likes to sing, the younger one likes to dance, so that's okay. The younger one's walking around in ballet slippers on her tiptoes and she can't wait for her ballet practice. So, you know, that's when you know when she asked me to play tennis twice a year, I'll play with her But I don't push it. Physical fitness, if you don't get to the ball, you can't hit it so well. And when you get tired, then you start making bad decisions. And that goes for real life too, which is why it's always important to take good care of yourself, period.”

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  7. “Well, fitness, obviously, it's a very similar movement, and just being on a team rather than by yourself. And it was a completely different sport. I also spread my ankle a few times playing basketball. But the pluses were outweighing the possibility of minuses of getting hurt and just loved the competition and two on two or three on three full court. That was my favorite. You just run and play and shoot and go the other way. Then the combination of finesse. And also I'm kind of a bit of a mutt in that I should better, I should lefty, but I do better lay up right-handed because it's like a toss on the surf. And I dribble better with my right hand and I move better to my right. But I shoot left. So I was confusing for people. And because I was in good shape, I ran a lot. So they wanted me on my team because two on two or three on three really pays off to being good shape. But anyway, I love the sport. I think it's a great game.”

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  8. “And he says, I'll be your biggest friend to the LGBT community. If friends like that. You run the other way. So you just pay attention and get involved on a local level, grassroots comes from the grassroots and it comes from the top down. It's much quicker for it to happen from the top down. But these days we have to do it from the bottom up. So just stay vigilant and stay involved.”

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  9. “Yeah, I mean, states' rights, there have been Michelangelo Signorilla, who's a gay activist and a TV and radio personality, actually wrote a book about it. He thought once we got the right to marry, everybody was celebrating. He says, just watch, there's going to be so much backlash and so many state laws are going to come up where they will try to roll back what we had just won. And that's exactly what's been happening. So you just be alert and pay attention to what's going on in your state, in your county, in your district, whatever, and fight those battles one by one. It's a shame that we still have to do that. That's where, again, I wish the federal government would step up and just make it against the law to make these regulations, but they're going the wrong way. They're going the other way on that. And certainly Trump has not been helpful in that regard at all. And that's an understanding. So he held that rainbow flag during one of the rallies, but he didn't even know it was upside down.”

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  10. “Well, it's both, but you have to think very quickly because it happens in a split second, doesn't it? And I always said it's better to hit the wrong shot well than hit the right shot badly because if you overthink it, at the end you may hit the right shot, but by then you're like, ah, maybe I should hit over there. So just go with your instinct and you play percentages. I mean, you see if it, you know, you have a strategy, if it works, you don't change it. And if you're losing, then you change it. So maybe you go down the line, down the line, down the line, finally they cover it. So now you go cross-court next time they cover it. So it's always cat and mouse with your opponent. So that's the fun part. But sometimes, again, it's easy to overanalyze. So like I said, better to hit the wrong shot well than hit the right shot badly.”

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  11. “So it depends on who you watch that day, whatever. But the whole point is that we contribute equally to the success of the tournament. We're willing to play three out of five, but they don't want us to do that. It's silly. I think, again, the men should play two out of three. And because both men and women play, they should be paid the same. End of story. It's the right thing to do, by the way. And they were using that with the Mackino also that he does longer matches, but he does women's matches. I wanted to do women's final, but he's doing the women's final. And you don't get paid because you talk longer or whatever. And I'm willing to do men's matches, but they don't let me. So there's that. Tennis Channel, I've done a bunch of men's matches and it's a lot of fun.”

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  12. “So there's that. So we offered, I think the men should play two out of three, but that's just me. That's another story. And also they found that until they slowed down the grass at Wimbleton, which was again the last tournament that finally gave us Equal Prize money, the ball was in play longer in the women's matches in two out of three set matches than the men's matches, three out of five. But, you know, you don't get paid for quantity, you get paid for quality. And I think a lot of people, when they did, actually, they did studies. Most people came to Wimbleton. They've done questionnaires. And most people came to Wimbledon to watch men. But then when they were leaving, they actually enjoyed watching the women more than the men.”

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  13. “Out of five sets. Yes, they do that in every round. They've been doing that forever at OneBlottend and then the other slams caught up, then some men's tournaments were three out of five finals, but the rest of it was two out of three. Then they realized it just takes too much out of them. So all the tournaments now are two out of three except in the Grand Slams, and that's three out of five. Women, they were holding that against us, actually, when we asked for equal prize money. They said, oh, but you only play two out of three. And men play three out of five. And he said, well, we'll play three out of five. Oh, no, no, no, we don't want you to do that.”

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  14. “Well, the biggest thing in doubles is cover the middle. So, you know, people cover the line too much and you may get passed once or twice down the line, but you will get 15 balls go through the middle. You can always blame it on your partner, right? So it was your shot. But if it's down your line, everybody's embarrassed because it's my line. So people guard the line with their life and they leave the middle too open in regular doubles. Professional doubles, they're better at covering the middle. But it's more or less Sevrend Vali. People are serving and staying back again because the rackets make it so much easier to hit those ground strokes. So you see longer valleys, some fun doubles. But I'll go for the old style of Servin Valley. Yeah, Servile still works if you do it well enough.”

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  15. “Best 10 Well, that one was good. Yeah, I think this one probably would have been the best and also it had very much a social message.”

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  16. “I'm kidding. I don't know. I don't know actually, but I didn't realize John was on the plane as well. And anyway, so I watched the movie. They took some liberties, but it was well done. Very well done. I thought Emma and Steve Carroll were fantastic.”

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  17. “I don't remember the Charlottesville question'cause that was thirty almost forty years ago, so yeah, that's a while back. But the Bobby Riggs, the movie, I was not in the country because it was in 73. I had just had to leave to go back to Czechoslovakia because my visa ran out. So I did not go to Houston, just read about it in the paper. And I never watched the film, I mean, the actual match. And I didn't I was invited to these premieres during when they were starting them at Wimbler and the Osopen last year, but I just couldn't make it. I was working, whatever. And ironically, I finally said, okay, I'm going to watch it on the plane back from Melbourne, because that's when I catch on all my movies, catch up on the long flights. And guess who's on the flight? Billy Jean. She was sitting over there with her girlfriend. And behind me is Venus Williams. And then John McLean.”

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  18. “Or two, his stomach got a little bit bigger and I've been eating less, but I still couldn't shake it. And I'm fit. I'm in good shape and everything. But I was just ticked off. But most of all, I didn't want to get into a habit of drinking. But I've been eating healthy since 81 when I really got into nutrition. But I still couldn't shake it. And so this whole 30 is no dairy, no alcohol, and no grains, which means no sugar that's no sugar grains is sugar. And I mostly did it just to see what I feel like. And I've had much better energy. I've also got coffee, which I didn't need to. And yeah, so I've been much, much happier camper. And the weight came off without even looking at the scale. My pencil all of a sudden like, oh, they're falling off. So I feel much, much better. So that's it. Mostly proteins and nuts, lots of nuts.”

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  19. “Well, it's interesting because I've I don't even want to start. Yes, I'll tell you, just the last six weeks I started this diet called whole thirty. Because I was too used to having a drink every night.”

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  20. “known that it was this disparate. And I think it's across the board for the other athletes, whether it's Lindsay Davenport compared to what Andyodic's making or Tracy Austin compared to Tim Henman or whatever. However, you want to put it, the pay gap is huge and it's a lot bigger than we even thought. And it needs to stop. And maybe tennis will be another push forward in the right direction. So it's not about how much we're getting paid, but it's about getting paid fairly compared to other people.”

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  21. “Well, it's again, it's not about me and John McEnroe. It's about what women should be getting paid compared to men. I think transparency is the biggest reason why we don't have equal pay or closer to it, certainly, because people don't know what anybody else is making. I said I would work for a BBC for free. That's the only game in town. I really wanted to work. I wanted to speak to people in England. Wimbleton has been always broadcast by BBC ever since there was TV. It's always been BBC. So it's the only game in town. And when they tell you this is all there is, so you take it. I would probably work rather for free than get paid one tenth, quite frankly, because I really want to, it's not about the money, it's about what's fair. And I don't have that problem with tennis channel. I don't have a problem there. I think they're very fair. Same with BT Sport. I also do some work with them. I haven't quite frankly.”

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  22. “Institutions, but I think the people are waking up. I think we kind of slid into complacency and being comfortable, almost lazy. Nothing bad is going to happen. But little by little, you know, that frog is going to get boiled in that water. And I think a lot of people are starting to jump out of the water now. So I think people are waking up and getting involved. And most of all, the young ones. And I think, again, maybe Parkland may be the tipping point for a horrible reason, but in a good way now that the young kids are realizing that we don't want the old people to decide what our lives will look like 20 years from now or 30 years from now or what they look like now actually so I think I'm optimistic because of the young ones”

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  23. “Maybe get a GED. I'm helping my kids with their homework. I think I could pass, but I don't know. Seriously, I do a lot of speaking. I do speeches around the world on women's issues, LGBT, still being an activist. I'm going to march on Saturday in Miami. Yeah. I can't come to Washington, but I'll be marching in Miami. Actually, we live about 10 minutes from Parkland, so it really hit home, as my daughter was, her friends were wondering whether their friends were impacted, of course, everybody was impacted, but if people got hurt. So yeah, I think just keep being an activist, keep speaking out for the right things. I always been a proponent of for the little guy, always was defending the little kid against the bullies. And so I'll keep doing that because that's just who I am, can't help it.”

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  24. “It's magic. Anybody that wants to go to Africa, do it. Don't think about it. It's amazing. The people are fantastic and the animals, it's just magic.”

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  25. “Well, I spent a lot of time in Kenya and also been in Tanzania, Gorogora Crater, and have traveled all around Kenya. So yeah, just anywhere. Just drive. Just take a car and drive. And that's actually why I learned to fly because it's, well, maybe not drive. It's safer to fly in Kenya than to drive. The roads are pretty bad.”

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  26. “I don't understand that. It's like this manufactured fear, and then people are just blind and they make these decisions on emotions rather than rational thinking.”

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  27. “Because that's how Trump got elected. It is very similar to that. I still get, I don't understand this fear. We're supposed to be Land of the Free, yes, brave, but fear is what drives people to make these decisions. And I had therapy a long time ago, and the therapist said, you don't ever make decisions based in fear because you make wrong decisions. But that's what people are voting based on fear so much. And I don't know what we're afraid of because nothing bad has really happened in this country since the Civil War. You really think about it, pearl horrible, yes, horrible. Awful. But compare that to what went on in China, communist countries, whatever, of course, all the wars in Europe, World War I, World War II, Korean War. Compare that to that, and there's no comparison. We have not really been touched yet. We're so scared here. And of what?”

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  28. “For what's going on in our country? There's too many things that are unfair in this country. It could be so much better. But how did it all happen? I think you see the statistics. You get frustrated because it doesn't make any sense for so many women still to be voting that way. People just don't pay enough attention to facts.”

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  29. “Facebook, Cambridge Analuka. I mean, it was a perfect storm or a horrible storm for Clinton. There's no doubt about that. Everything that could have gone wrong went wrong. Still, you thought somehow. But again, we knew about the Electoral College. I think that system needs to be looked at. It's not working. If I lived in Hawaii, I would be really pissed because my vote doesn't count because by then the elections decided it should really be one person, one vote, regardless of where you live. I don't know why geography makes a difference. I'm for state rights up to a point because if you do something here, you're okay. And if you do the same thing here, you're a criminal. I just don't get that. How can it be so disparate, so different from state to state, particularly now with the legal Mariana, etc or crossing state lines with liquor in your car? It just doesn't make sense. I'm not an authoritarian at all, obviously, but I think the federal government needs to be more responsible.”

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  30. “No, no. Have you seen? That is a classic photo of him hitting a forehand volley. It's a thing of beauty. Really? You wear those shorts? Okay”

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  31. “Well, his wife was a lot faster skier than he was. I knew Ivana before she even met Donald Trump because she was Czech and she was a friend of a Czech friend of mine. Some met her in New York back in the 70s. And yeah, skied with him a couple times in Aspen and yeah, moved a family.”

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  32. “Country, obviously you. Nothing, then nothing. I mean, things were great. Let's see. Well, it was Watergate, which I'm like, where is this place? Watergate. It's the big thing. 73. I did not understand that. But politics seemed to be very reasonable. People are nice and welcoming. When I defected, I was welcome with open arms in Texas. And I had everything. So back then, nothing.”

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  33. “And the size of ham on a sandwich, because growing up again, pork was very expensive. So you had bread and maybe one slice of ham. So I would eat around it. So I got a big chunk of ham on the last bite. And here you get a ham sandwich. And it's like two pieces of bread and this much ham. It's like, oh my God, this is amazing. $2.50 for a ham sandwich. Still remember it. For me, that was astonishing. Grocery stores. Astonishing.”

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  34. “Well, I came here in 73. And then I defected in 75. So when I first came here in 1973? Well, I've seen American cars before in Germany, but still the size of American cars. And they're still astonished when you see an old Cadillac, Colorado. It's like, you know, four feet longer than a SUV. That's just huge. But what astonished me the most, I think, was that there were oranges. The first drama I played was in Fort Lauderdale. And there were oranges on the trees. You could just pick them off the tree. And growing up, we had oranges like once a year for maybe two weeks for Christmas you had oranges. So it was like the most precious thing you could eat. It was more expensive than beef. And you could just pick it up the tree. And I picked up a coconut. I took me about three hours to get inside it. But I ate the inside of my coconut.”

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  35. “So I have two passports, yeah, and it's nice to feel like you belong to both countries because when I defect it, the reason I defected is because you couldn't get visa unless the government allowed you to get visa. So they wouldn't let me play the OS Open, so I defected. And then for six years, I was stateless. I had a thing that said re-entry permit. It looked like a passport, but it says re-entry permit. And I had to get visa every single place I went. And when you're filling out the paperworks is country of citizenship, I had to put stateless. Finally, in 81, when I got my citizenship, USA. And I got my passport. The next day I'm flying to Europe. And they said, do you have a passport? I'm like, do I have a passport? I still remember that moment. I was so proud. And now I have two passports, so it's very cool.”

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  36. “I waited for that. I don't know why I waited. You had to get so much paperwork done, and I finally got it organized, and I send it and I don't get anything back, and I finally call it, they didn't get the paperwork. I'm like, oh, I have to start over again. So like two years later, I finally got to it. And it happened that I got it after Obama became president, not under George W. Bush. And people were saying I did it on purpose because I didn't want to be an American anymore because of George W. Bush. It had nothing to do with it. I just wasn't organized enough to get all the paperwork done.”

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  37. “Well, it's the Blurridge Mountains. It's the same climate and same countryside, very similar to what I grew up and comfortable.”

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  38. “So, you know, I played against all the people, whatever my level was. I played against those people. I only played against girls my age. I played whoever I could compete against. And that breeds, I think, good players.”

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  39. “That was about the only sport we could play there. No, I mean, for me, it was the possibility, the availability of playing because we had a club in my hometown and the opportunity and I had good coaching. And it was a sport that I loved, tennis, Ivan Lendel was from a tennis family, Martina, tennis family. It was kind of past generation to generation. And also the club scene is very healthy. The Czechs are pretty athletic anyway and active, but most of all, the clubs are set up where you walk to the club in your hometown. It's very safe. So you walk and you can stay there all day on the weekend or after school, you go straight to tennis and play and then you come home before dark. And it's just a nice scene. It's cheap. So you don't have to be wealthy to make it. You have good coaching and people to play with.”

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  40. “I'm both. I feel very much at home here. I'm total American, but I still feel at home when I go to Czech Republic. My sister lives there. You know, it's where I grew up. The town is the same. There's still no traffic lights there. It hasn't changed. And so I feel very much at home at both places. I must say if Czechs play Americans in hockey, I root for the Czechs. Ashamed to say that, but maybe it's still also kind of rooting for the underdog, the smaller country, you know. I mean, we're a country of, I think, like 10, 12 million people.”

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  41. “I thought they would rather take it back if they could, but it was peaceful. It was done nicely. Nobody died. There was no violence at all. It was just people voted for it. And that was that. It's a shame, but that's what it happened.”

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  42. “No, I mean, it's a great country to live in, but the politics have gone slightly downhill. And I think people have a short memory and they're kind of too many people still pining for the good old communist days as if there was anything good about it. And a former communist Zeman was re-elected president again or prime minister, whatever he is now. It's frustrating, but it's still a great place to be a democratic country. And I think overall it's done really well. But it's frustrating to me to see the right-wing politics winning so much of these days and the dictators, or not dictators, but authoritarians winning the elections.”

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  43. “It's privacy, it's your teammates, some may know, some may not. I mean, I know professional team sports, there's definitely a lot of players out there that their teammates know, but it's still... It's still a taboo, and it's uncomfortable, and it attracts attention in a way that these macho sports don't want. Even on the tennis tour, I was lucky that I could come out because I knew I could still pay tennis no matter what happened in endorsements. I didn't care. I lost a lot of money, but I just wanted to play tennis and be true to myself. I knew I could still play, no matter what. The ranking is this. You get to play. But on team sports, it's tricky. So I get that it's difficult, especially for men. But on the men's tour, the guys are so far in the closet, I don't even know who they are. It's disappointing because the women are much more brave on that front.”

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  44. “She openly said I will not allow a lesbian on my team. This is back in the eighties and would proudly proclaim to her parents that there are no lesbians on the team when she was recruiting her players. So do you come out? You don't get to play. It's difficult in team sports or professional sports. Same thing. You would get blackboard by the league if you do. It's okay now. It's better.”

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  45. “It depends on what sport you're in because it's almost like if you're a figure skater, you have to prove that you're straight if you're a man. And if you're a softball player as a woman, you have to prove that you're straight, it depends on the sport, but it's difficult in team sports because if the coach is in any shape homophobic, you don't get to play. You don't get to compete. There was a, forget her name now. She played for Penn State coach. Anybody can help me? She was a coach there. Renee Portland.”

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  46. “I mean, I come from a home where we didn't have hot water until I was about 12 years old. We had to heat up the water to wash the dishes and we had to heat up the big thing to take a bath once a week. You know, that's all you had. You had to heat up the water to wash the dishes. And my mom washed the dishes and I dried them every night.”

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  47. “Well, recently, okay, I've been married now for three years with Julia almost ten years, and her two daughters are 16 and 12. And the question I ask myself most often these days is, what can I say to them so that they will actually put the dishes in the dishwasher? Rather than just leave him in the sink. I have not solved that riddle. I don't know. Take away the iPhone. No, that doesn't work. Dropping privileges? No, I don't know. I've run out. Being nice, you know, give money. I did that too. I paid them. That didn't work either Anybody, any suggestions? I mean, and the dishwashers here and the sink is here. It's not like it's a long trip, you know?”

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  48. “Anything else but this can be hockey, it can be woodworking. I play hockey. Woodworking, no, that would not, I don't think that would have made that much money. But I did woodworking. I still have 10 fingers. See, I did pretty well. Made a couple tables. I think I wanted to be an architect or a builder. I think that's why I got into what working wanted to create. And if it was a sport, either a skier or a race car driver.”

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  49. “And then the last one, we lost the doubles. Pam and I lost the doubles. We unlost a match in two years. We lost the finals. So I won the singles. And then Sunday after winning the singles and winning and losing double spinal, I played three. We were in the quarterfinals on the mixed doubles on Sunday. I was on the court for six hours because there was no tiebreak in the third set. When the first match in three sets, then we played again semifinals in three sets 20, I think it was 23-21 in the third. And then the final was three sets as well. So yeah, I was tired that day. That's why people don't play because it just takes too much energy. The game is more physical and they don't want to hamper anything. But I like playing tennis so much that I couldn't see not playing doubles.”

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  50. “Well, I think there is so much more money in singles and so much interest in singles. Fewer players play singles and doubles. So because you win one major and your life is made. So, you don't concentrate so much, you don't want to make anything hamper that possibility, so people play less. I played singles, doubles, and mixed in a whole bunch of times. In fact, I probably played too much in my 30s. I should have played less, but I didn't know any better. And I like playing mix. Maybe that's one of my other big accomplishments. I won the triple and the US open almost 31 on one singles that was end mixed. One year at Wormblood on 86, it rained so much that only played two matches in the first week. because it rained two singles and then I played 17 matches the second week because I got to the finals of all three so I played two or three matches every single day”

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