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Mary Kay Henry

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  1. “We'll be looking back at it and thinking, can you believe how income inequality has been reduced and one in five kids are not going to bed hungry and there isn't that disparity in education anymore?”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. “And several of the members of the cabinet that were sitting in front of me turned to me and said, wow, he's just incredible. He had such presence in telling the story and introducing the president. And I said to them, there are tens of thousands of Terrance Wise around. So I think the other thing is like unlocking the leadership that exists of people that are making magic happen in their lives while they're living in poverty but are taking the time to build new organization. I think it's incredibly inspiring to me. And so it's going to be a very, I think you're going to see another big hit to the American labor movement this year and how we respond to the hit and then how we do in this presidential election I think are the breakthrough moments for the next surge in workers forming organizations like we did in the 30s.”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  3. “There's lots of good little innovations happening, some of which were part of others of which we're just trying to help resource and finance. I think leadership is really key. And the thing, Terrence Wise was this fast food worker that introduced President Obama at this worker voice summit”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  4. “I see a vibrant growing twenty first century organization of workers millions more workers joining organizations to raise their wages either directly with their employers or through a government that they are going to transform because more and more of those workers are going to decide to participate in politics because they're going to understand the direct connection that if they show up they can demand government officials acting on their behalf. And I think it's not going to look like today's labor movement. And I think there's going to be a new part of the labor movement that deals with how do we have portable benefits for the growth of the independent contractor form of employment that's happening in the so-called gig or sharing economy that's happening.”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  5. “I that's a good question. I would say that our white conservative membership that is that we hear are responding to the Trump appeal are more concentrated in the Midwest and the South. But this is In getting people to think about how Trump isn't saying anything that's responding to the basic problem. Trump actually said wages are too high, taxes are too high, people need to work their way up into the, I don't know if you heard what he said on the minimum wage. It was an outrage. So we're like pumping that into our membership because he's just not going to deal with the basic economic anxiety. And it's our job to help communicate that to those members.”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  6. “Yes, I agree that that's the sort of petri dish that allows that fear to get stoked. And I think the contrast that we're trying to create is somebody like Governor Cuomo of all people was willing to step out and order a wage board that hadn't been used since 1955 in New York and that caused a six dollar wage increase over the next five years for 200,000 fast food workers in New York. And frankly, David, that's what we're saying to fast food workers around the country. Your vote does matter because you can elect a politician that could actually take action that would make difference on your wages, either through minimum wage or demanding wage boards. So we are trying to make this direct link as the antidote to the fear that's being stoked by somebody.”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  7. “I think he's touching this vein of the terrible anxiety that working class people feel about their current status but more importantly how terrified they are for their kids not being able to do as bad as well as they have never mind doing better you know so that broken sense of the future And not that emotion having an easier appeal to fear than to what's possible is what we found is why it's so, we're doing one-on-ones with every one of our members right now in this period, because 64% of our public members identify as conservative and are much more interested in the Republican debate than the Democratic debate at this moment.”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  8. “And so we're very concerned, and we feel like, again, Hillary Clinton and Senator Sanders have been really good about objecting quickly and using their bully pulpits to help dial this down, but this ad that Trump released today. Is horrific in my mind and reminds me of Pete Wilson in California on Proposition two hundred twenty six.”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  9. “Is we're going into hyperdrive, especially in the pockets of our membership that have a lot of Muslim leaders, to stand against what's being said because he, as you can see, and I've heard you comment on, has touched this vein.”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  10. “You know, I actually think that the process that Senator Sanders has made a huge contribution to the debate and that the process has actually helped sharpen the contrast between the values that Democrats stand for in this country and the very dangerous debate that's happening in the Republican Party. And so I have to tell you, I'm not as concerned about the timing of our process as I am about how did push back against what's happening on the Republican side of this debate. I am deeply concerned about what's stirring even in our membership, David, where our members are responding to Trump's message and hate and divisiveness. And so the other piece of what we're doing right now”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  11. “It's targeted on caucus turnout and GOTV that's been part of an operation that we've folded into that was happening by the Clinton campaign before. How important do you think?”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  12. “Well, immediately after our endorsement in Iowa, we did a push-button poll with every Iowa member to identify early support quickly, and then we moved a team into Iowa that's working with our local leader, who's part of a coordinated labor campaign. We're not running a separate operation from the rest of labor, but we're going deep in our membership. And then we did, our biggest concentration of members is in Iowa City with the University of Iowa Medical Center. And so we did a special registered nurse event with Hillary Clinton there to help bring excitement. And then we have volunteer groups moving in from Michigan, Illinois, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Missouri in the next two weeks. Some of the buses have left Minnesota today. I'm going to be there this coming weekend to do volunteer recruitment.”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  13. “You know, she met with our home care and childcare leaders and did a roundtable where those leaders came back to our executive board and talked about how they felt she really got the value of home care and childcare work in a way that they had not experienced from any other candidate. And so that's one of the biggest reasons, I would say we went for it. The second is we have a union that's deeply committed to citizenship for every undocumented worker in person in this country, and we feel like she was stand-up in every way on immigration. I do acknowledge that even today, David, as we sit here having endorsed, there are incredibly electrified volunteer members of ours that are working for the Sanders.”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  14. “Well, we celebrate it every day, and we're incredibly grateful for the president's steadfast leadership on pushing against enormous headwinds, not just to pass the thing, but to defend it every, it seems like every six months we're having to redefend it in front of the Supreme Court or this crazy Congress or something. And our members were delighted to go into Latino communities especially to get through the fear of signing up. And we're incredibly proud to have been part of the ground troops that helped get the 12 million additional people covered in this country. We're thrilled that 100 million people can go to bed at night not worrying about pre-existing conditions and the threat of medical bankruptcy. I find us as a reminder of what's good about it. We agree there's pieces that need to be fixed and strengthened, but you're going to have”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  15. “Right. And these are jobs, as you know, that have never been valued in our economy. They were jobs that were excluded from Social Security. They're excluded from fair labor standards. President Obama was the first person to recognize overtime for these workers who often work many volunteer hours because of that bond. And I think because it's considered women's work and care work, it's never been valued in the way that auto jobs.”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  16. “The fastest growing job in the economy. There's 2 million today, and by 2025, there's going to be another million. And by 2030, I think they project yet another million because of the escalation of aging and because people want to be able to live independently, you know, on this shift. And frankly, the Affordable Care Act has created more choices for the entire population. And so, yeah, we think there's incredible potential across the service and care sector to build new unions.”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  17. “Well, 11 million people have gotten minimum wage increases since this campaign started. And it hasn't been just this campaign. I think the president in the state of the union leaned in on minimum wage. I think governors and mayors like the city of Seattle had a political debate. We financed initiative at CTAC on $15 minimum wage as a way to kind of kickstart what was seen as this bold dream and now has become a legitimate demand and a new benchmark. And so we think those things have been incredibly valuable and have infused, it has changed the bargaining in our union. Like we now go to home care and nursing home bargaining tables and the employers put their hands up and say we know there's going to be a $15 minimum demand and we want you to know that we think we got to get there but we're not going to be able to do it in one bump. It's going to have to be over the that's a huge”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  18. “When we feel really proud of the progress we've made in changing the debate on wages in this country, we think that the courage and fearlessness of people like Terrence Wise in Kansas City, who is a 36-year-old second generation fast food worker, his mom is a fast food worker in North Carolina. He earns nine dollars an hour after nineteen years of work. His fiance is a home care worker. You know, he does two and three jobs to try and do right by his three kids and has been transformed by the opportunity to be a leader in an organization where the fullness of his potential is being realized. And that's happening for tens of thousands of fast food workers across the country.”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  19. “Well, I think we do it by acting as movement leaders. I'd say more and more of the American labor movement. I think see themselves. I think of myself both as a leader of SEIU, the institution, but also a piece of a movement leadership where I have to use the institution to fuel the Black Lives Matter movement, the immigrant justice movement. Because our members are the people and leaders in their communities that are helping to fuel each of those movements. And so I think we combat the image by showing up in each other's fights and having our members tell these incredibly compelling stories about their lives and how their organization has transformed their ability to participate in the democracy. To make a change in the economic well-being of their communities.”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  20. “Yes, exactly. So I don't know if it's motivated that way, David, because I have to tell you my thought is that it's as much motivated by a corporate agenda that seeks to not have government act as a leveler Of being able to level the playing field between the influence of the wealthy and corporations in the democracy. And so it could, but again, I think that's more of a means than it is that the actual end here is, you know, how do we act out of a value that we're all in this together, that we are our brothers and sisters keeper, and that we want a nation where people have a shot at being able to work hard and have their kids do better. And those are fundamental things that are threatened by the agenda that is being driven by the same people on right to work, climate change, women's health, LGBT equality, immigrant justice, and the rest.”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  21. “That's what we hear when we listen to the CPAC, you know, Grover Norquist last year at a CPAC conference said did a presentation with Scott Walker as an example in saying here's the cookbook for how to eliminate the influence of unions in the politics of every state. And they had Scott Walker do his presentation about first I did this, then I did this, and then he passed right to work. And, you know, we've lost just in the last four years, probably 300,000 union members in the state of Wisconsin alone.”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  22. “And those same people are suppressing five million votes through the worst voter rights and going after Planned Parenthood funding and everything that we hold dear is being eviscerated by the people that are saying that in the right to work movement. So I wouldn't say that it may be that the means that we have are the same but our ends are totally different.”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  23. “I think that's fair. I think that because of the systematic attack, David, that many of my brothers and sisters in the labor movement are waking up to the fact that whether or not we want to advocate, it's happening to us. And so I'm trying to make the case across the American labor movement. Let's embrace the idea that creating an organization where people can choose to join and change not only their economic life, but the economic life of everybody in this country is something that I think we have found with fast food home care, childcare, adjunct professors, airport workers, there's huge interest in people being able to join something where they believe they can make a difference in their life, but also have a fighting chance for their kids.”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  24. “jobs that we've taken to $15 an hour jobs with healthcare, sick leave, pensions in some cases in about 14 states of the country. Those women, primarily women of color, are bound and determined to build a powerful voluntary organization. And I think that we're committed to making that happen across the public service sector as well. And it's why we've supported the fast food workers movement because we believe that all workers across the service and care sector can join together and do for the U.S. economy what industrial workers did in the last century when auto steel and rubber workers joined together and raised wages in that sector. It transformed the economy and created a middle class. I think we have the potential to do that again.”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  25. “If I can't have a pension, why should you, as opposed to in the seventies when people said, how can I get a job that guarantees me a pension? Like, you've got it. I want it too. And I think that's the moment that we can respark. I think we have to acknowledge as a movement that we need to build a voluntary organization of workers like the rest of the globe has. And we found in our home care and childcare units because they were ordered by the court last summer to be open shop, that there's incredible resilience on the part of our home care and childcare leaders who said no court decision is going to stand in the way of us joining together to fight for elders and the disabled, the people that we care about and that we serve and for ourselves.”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  26. “I think because we are no longer raising wages for the entire country. And so in seventy four, when workers bargained their wages up, it changed the service and industrial economy for everybody. And now when workers' wages are raised in a unionized setting, it has no impact on non-union because what you said, the stagnation of wages across the economy and growing income inequality and the shrinking of the labor movement means that”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  27. “Is now down to sixteen million. And by next summer, we're going to lose another two million because of a Supreme Court case for the public sector where public sector workers, organizations will no longer be allowed to have union shops. Everybody will be a voluntary member. And I think that means that another chunk of the movement will be gone. And depending on the outcome of the U.S. presidential election and 18 governors elections, we could see more right-to-work activity, which will weaken worker organization as well. So that's one set of facts. The other is...”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  28. “As a part of the solution. Right, exactly. Why? I think because in 74 we kind of peaked in 1974 in setting wages and conditions for the majority of people that work for a living, you know, an hourly. And because we then kind of went into a crowd in thinking about how to protect our pensions and health care and started bargaining wage increases away to maintain our healthcare and pension benefits in the 60s and 70s and 80s, we ceased to be irrelevant to the majority of working people. We were no longer a catalyst for creating a better life for everybody. We became protecting, very protection of our own membership. And so the $35 million that used to have collective organizations”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  29. “I would say that the in my lifetime the labor movement has not been at a more critical point. I feel like we are at a make or break moment of whether workers' ability to come together and improve their lives is at question because of the sort of systematic attack on organization and because of the labor movement's unwillingness to respond to what's coming at us and because of a politics in the country that doesn't see how essential worker organization is to our economic and democratic life, that there's all these forces happening that makes us, I think we have to stop. Looking at the way things were, I call it the rear view mirror, and think forward to the next generation. And what decisions are we going to make that are going to create the next form of workers' collective power in our economy and democracy?”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  30. “In eight in nineteen eighty that wasn't an issue as long as I was performing. When I went to LA actually six months in San Francisco, six months in LA, when I went to LA, it was a bigger problem, especially with the members, you know. And I had a lot of experiences where I learned fundamentally something that has guided me as president, that the power of the union is that whatever discrimination we may feel towards each other in our neighborhoods or our schools, when it comes to the workplace, people are willing to have each other's back in a way that wasn't my lived experience in the broader society of worker organization and union correctly, you can really hardwire into any person from any walk along. Life and openness to embrace what you have never grown up with.”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  31. “I learned from this man that did the war labor board for our union after World War II who was at the sort of end of his career and was an incredible gift to me because I was not welcomed. I was one of the first women hired in this job. They didn't really want women. All the people ahead of me had been white men primarily. There were a few African American men.”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  32. “Well, there was an intention to introduce you to every part of the membership. So I worked with janitors, organizing in the suburbs because they were part-time in the suburbs, full-time in the city. We were trying to raise the wages. I worked with Kaiser Permanente because I did wage surveys. I actually figured out my math problem when I wasn't under the gun. And for all the public workers in California and compared city, county, state wages.”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  33. “Yes, and then this woman saw me leaving, she knew me from the high school I went to. She ran down to the guy that was saying no to me and said, I know this woman, I know her family, I think you should give her a chance. That's how I got the freaking job. I mean. It was, and then they sent me to California. It was a training program that was modeled after the Peace Corps where you earn twelve thousand dollars a year and they trained you for a year and then you agreed to go anywhere in the country for three years to pay the union back for the investment in you”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  34. “Oh, really? Yeah, I had no idea at the time. It was pure instinct, and I thought for sure it must be not the right thing to do in a labor movement, you know, at the...”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  35. “Officials I had him own what he had done and ask for forgiveness of the members and then commit to Correct what he had done”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  36. “I do. I admit you to help me with it now since I failed. Then this is like total serendipity working. I think of it, frankly, as the hand of God. You know, because I failed the math test, I passed the speech test. They liked what I said about the corrupt union official that I was supposed to write a speech for because he had been smeared in the newspaper for his handling of finances. And I was walking out having, I thought, lost the job and a friend of”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  37. “Averaging wages, if you're going to be an assistant at a bargaining table, can you do average wage? Can you figure out percentage increases? Can you do the formulas on pensions? That was the”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  38. “A math test because I was going to be a researcher. And I failed the math test. And then I was supposed to look at a newspaper article about the corruption.”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  39. “And went up to me and said, What can I do to help you? Because as a woman trade union leader, she had a commitment to younger women coming into the movement. And she connected me to Joyce Miller in New York, who was part of the American Clothing Textile Workers Union, and then she connected me to June McMahon at the SEIU. And that's how I didn't know what SEIU was when I was 20.”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  40. “Well, the UAW did not hire from outside the ranks at the time. This goes to your first point about SEIU was a way in for somebody like me? That didn't grow up in a union family, didn't grow up through union jobs, and the president of SEIU at the time wanted young people out of colleges to come into SEIU to help infuse the organization. And the UAW said that if I went and got a PhD in economics, I could be in their research department. So instead Olga Madar, who was a founding member of the Coalition of Labor Union Woman, saw me wandering around Solidarity House.”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  41. “Which I got really interested in because I was part of the MPERG organization in East Lansing and my student work study assignment that year was to help lobby on health hazards in the state legislature. And so I got to meet these women and I was just so kind of mesmerized by how they thought about action and it was so resonant with being the oldest sister, organizing people in a group that I got really attracted to the idea of working with them full time. And so I did a second major in labor industrial relations in my junior and senior year and I tried to go work for the UAW just because of the experience of seeing how these women move together.”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  42. “That's how I got through. Right, right. And then UAW women were incredibly influential in the women's organizing that was happening on campus. And they were very... They were community members that had student community organizing happening in East Lansing around reproductive health hazards on the assembly line.”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  43. “You were a student in Michigan State. Well, I was a work study student all through college, and every one of those work study experiences introduced me to unions, I would say. I was a student worker as a janitor in the student union the rest of the full-time workers were union members. Some of the best experiences I had, I was taken under the wing of the union stewards to kind of show me the ropes. And I experienced in that those early work experiences The power again of people being in an organization and being able to think about each other in ways that supervisors could never imagine how workers look out for each other and help each other. You know, I fell asleep in a closet because I was studying too much. I ended up having monolucleosis. The union steward helped me out. Then UAW women”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  44. “I am Not at all. I think the institutional church has a long way to go. I'd say my parish in San Francisco and my parish in DC are incredibly open and welcoming. And I think that what Pope Francis has done to talk about a year of mercy dealing with not judging, like who am I to judge, has opened up a completely new conversation. My mother is now participating in an LGBT exploration in our parish in northwest suburbs of Detroit that would have never happened without Pope Francis. So it's incredible.”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  45. “I was in an all girls Catholic school, and I think the women religious there were again very unusual for the time in the sense that I was not isolated, I was not bullied, the kinds of things that you hear that happened to kids in school, but mostly it was a good Irish Catholic response, which was not to talk about it. You know, and so I didn't either feel accepted or welcomed, I felt tolerated. What about by the churches?”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  46. “I did I did, grade school and high school, and I went to one year of public school in Michigan when the Catholic schools were too full.”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  47. “I was seventeen. And so a lot of my high school and then early college friends because of our religious practice thought there was something wrong with me.”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  48. “Yeah, I think what prevailed in my coming out in my family is that my parents, Acted out of love, and because they loved me, they were Uncomfortable for my safety, I think, because there were beatings of gay people that were pretty well publicized at that time in the early to mid-70s, late 70s in Michigan. And so their biggest concern for me was my safety. But they were completely accepting of me. And I was very fortunate in that regard, I think. My friends, I lost a lot of friends when I came out because. How old were you?”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  49. “Acted on it. Yeah. And I was part of the campus organizing that was happening in the mid-70s around the women's movement. And I was a part of sort of the lesbian influence of the women's movement, at least in East Lansing, Michigan at the time. I didn't have the kind of global perspective that I have now about what was happening in that movement.”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  50. “Yeah, and I was in a lot of lesbian women's organizing as a student. And the most influential women were from the United Auto Workers.”

    2016-01-07 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 21 - Mary Kay Henry · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source