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Mary Loana Williams

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first: 2020-07-01
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2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You cannot have a better ending than that, Miss Jane Fonda. Thank you. Thank you for that. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Are you at a point in your life where you can do that thing that Derek Walcott says you sit and feast on your life? And can you say, wow, I'm proud.”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Many people are going to see this tonight, and for the first time hear that you had a daughter who was an African American. So can you tell us how you feel about how far she has come?”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The last four years, Jane has been in relationship with legendary music producer Richard Perry. What have you learned about sex in your three acts?”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Really? You made me very happy, yeah. Many times, even today, as we're walking out here, you described this as your third act house and your third act space. Do you find that frightening or exhilarating?”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh, yes, because the last time we saw each other was on the set of the butler. Did you think twice before taking on the role of Nancy Reagan?”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You said that when you were younger, like before 50, you always thought that by the time you reach this age, if you reach this age, that you would be miserable, decrepit, ugly, and alone. And just the opposite has happened”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Jane, you said something so brilliant in our show Masterclass. I mean, people were tweeting about it. You said that it took your long time to realize that we're not meant to be perfect, but that we are meant to be whole. Do you feel that bringing Mary into the family helped complete the wholeness of the family? That. Thanks for letting me in. Thank you for coming in. Thank you. Next, a fireside chat for real with Jane. She still has so much to teach from her remarkable life. I think that you are the models. Aging, moving into it with wisdom and grace”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But you were nervous when you went to meet her too, right? Jane Fonda has two biological children, Vanessa Vadim from her first husband, French director Roger Vadim, and Troy Garrity from her second marriage to politician Tom Hayden. When Mary moved in with the Fonda family, Vanessa was 15, Troy was just 12. Today, 39-year-old Troy is embracing his family's legacy. He starred in the barbershop movies and played a crusading reporter opposite Keltie Grammar in the critically acclaimed show Boss. Like the rest of the family, Troy calls Mary by her nickname Lulu. So you were 12 when your mom brought Mary home to live with you. What did you think?”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Mary realized that all of her adventures were preparing her for the one thing she feared most, seeing her birth mother again. So when you came back, were you ready? I was ready for your mother. Your biological mother? I was. Because I was about confronting my fears. And so I said, I am going to go back. Because in my mind over those years, my mother had become unfairly a monster. She had become a monster. I didn't see her as a human being who had been through things. And going back helped me to humanize her. And I really see her and I really respect her now. But it wasn't easy. But it wasn't easy. After nearly 30 years of estrangement, Mary reconnected with her birth mother, Mary calls her mama. Mary says her relationship with her birth mother is a work in progress. Varius also reunited with her aunt, uncle, and cousins. She has not seen her four living siblings or her father.”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And all the black people who do hike, I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about, in general, we don't go out hiking and camping by ourselves. Which is one of the reasons that you wanted to get into this forest service and all that to try to figure out why and to encourage black people to go out there. And that wasn't enough. You then went and worked in Antarctica. Well, listen to that.”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“She hiked the Appalachian Trail, lived in Alaska, and even journeyed to Antarctica. Today, she lives in Arizona where she took a break from her career as a park ranger to write this book. I love that the book is filled with your adventures. First of all, I have I remember being with Jane for, I don't know what occasion, and she told me that her daughter was going to be hiking the Appalachian Trail alone. And I was like, well, that is the craziest thing I ever heard. I mean, who does that? And God knows black people don't hide. I did a whole show about it.”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“At the time of your sister's death, did you think, wow, that could have been me? Oh, yeah. Yep, that absolutely could have been me. You knew that had you stayed. Where you were in the space and place that you were that could have easily been you. I would have let any man that intimidated me have me. I didn't want to fight anymore. After that raid. After that rape. During this whole time that you're living with Jane and the family, did your family in Oakland, did they try to contact you? Were they in your life at all? Initially, my uncle Landon and my aunt Not at all. You didn't hear from them. No Mary went to college and also earned a graduate degree. She worked for various nonprofits and lived in Atlanta to be near Jane. After breaking off an engagement to her fianc ⁇, Mary sold her belongings to embark on a new chapter.”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Mary was at Ted Turner's Montana Ranch when she found out her troubled older sister Deborah had been brutally murdered. In East Oak Thinking that my sister died here and especially how she died is very hard. She got mixed up with the wrong people at a really young age in order to survive. She was a prostitute. She was also addicted to drugs. And not very far from here, she was murdered in a very public way. She was pursued by a woman who had a knife and stabbed my sister to death on the street with a crowd of people around cheering that person on. Mary returned to Oakland to attend the funeral. It was her first trip home in almost a decade since she left to live with Jane Fonda. She was a wonderful girl, and I remember her as a wonderful sister. And I'll always have that image in my mind of her.”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Connected to that, or does that drop away? It kind of dropped away. In family, it drops away. In our family, I don't think I'm the black one. In my Turner family, I don't think I'm the black one. In family, it drops away. It's outside the family, I think, when sometimes that comes in. Yeah. In family, she's just Lulu.”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Sometimes it was incredibly easy and sometimes not. I think the most difficult part was living in Atlanta, which I didn't like very much because it's where you all moved after. It's where we all moved after they got married. I felt the most discrimination coming from other blacks. Whenever I traveled with them and we had special passes to sit in special places, they would always single me out to ask me, what are you doing here? Where is your past kind of thing? While the white security really just assumed, if I'm standing next to her, I must be with her. I always had a rough time from black folk. Yeah. Would you say I'm her daughter? Yes. It sounds ridiculous. Ted Ta's my stepfather. And they were like, yeah, right. So I can see it sounds unbelievable. Who would say that? Yes, yes. When you're in the house, in the family, in dinner, engaged in all the things that families do, would you feel your race, would you feel your blackness? Would you be connected?”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We just say brothers and sisters. Are you all still close? Yes. Really? Are you still close to Ted? Oh, yeah. Really? Oh, yeah, absolutely. So what was it like for you being the black child in this family?”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What was it like that first Thanksgiving at Ted's house? Wasn't it like a southern plantation? Plantation, yes. Yes. I see with the dinner bell that you ring and on all black staff. Plantation. Yes. I see with the dinner bell Soul food for days dogs everywhere and a huge portrait of Scarlet O'Hara. It was very, very, very subtle.”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Mary, you say in lost order that when Jane married her third husband, Ted Turner, that you describe him as the true father, which is so unlikely. Really? Very, very unlikely. I was nervous about Ted, and he turned out to be you and me both. One of the most amazing people I've ever met.”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“After Jane Fonda separated from her second husband, politician Tom Hayden, she was famously wooed by Media Mogul and billionaire Mouth of the South, Ted Turner. The power couple dated for two years, then married on Jane's 54th birthday. When the Turner and Fonda families came together, Ted, a father of five from two previous marriages, made a lasting connection with Jane's daughter Mary. Mary called Ted Turner the closest thing she's ever had to a father.”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“When Jane Fonda says, Come live with us It was like if your grades improve. It was like the door had, I was in a dark room and the door had cracked open just a little and the light shone in and I just flew. There was no intellectual thought process about it. It was all very instinctual. I didn't even think about it. I thought absolutely. I didn't really know her. I could have gone into a situation where, you know, she could have been a horrible person when I got there, but that's how desperate I was. I didn't care. I wanted anything had to be better than where I was. Tell us what that car ride coming to Santa Monica the first time was like. You say my first impression was that LA made you want to look up. I love that. I remember how wide the streets were. And I remember how clean they were. But tell me how you felt walking into Jane Fonda's home, Black Girl from Oakland. Do you think, how am I going to fit in here? I did. How is this going to work for me?”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think the Panthers taught me to care about myself. And that sustained me until it ran out. Growing up as a black Panther's daughter gave you a sense of pride and caring for yourself and acknowledging it. It's a shame that people don't really understand the Panther. Some people think of them as just black militants and thugs or whatever. But it was so much more than that. It wasn't about black supremacy. I never once in my life as a black woman wanted my skin to be lighter, wanted my hair to be straighter. Wanted my hips to be narrower. I was raised to love being a black person. And that's what being raised by the panther. And that's what being raised by the Panthers did. And it was not to hate white people. That was not there. And a lot of people think that that's what the Panthers were about. And they weren't. So tell me what happened. Was there a sense of I've been saved in that moment when...”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You say on Paigeti 4, she threw me a lifeline, she threw you a lifeline, and you grabbed it. I grabbed it. Did you know that it was a lifeline? I did. You did. I knew I was dying. I knew. I think there was just enough left in me. Want to save myself because I think Being a panther was part of that”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Escape that. So you say so when it happened, I was resigned to my fate. I gave up the fantasy that girls like me could aspire to anything more than early pregnancies, violent relationships and welfare. My attacker rendered me sullied and unredeemable. I gave up on myself and gave myself away. And so when you came back to camp the next summer, there was a noticeable difference in her.”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Tell us what had happened that summer, what had happened. That summer that I did not go back, I had decided it was a theater arts camp, by the way, and I had gotten into a lot of acting and doing monologues. And I thought to myself, I'm going to be an actress. So I went to one audition. How old were you? 14. And it turned out not to be an audition or it didn't end up that way. And I was sexually assaulted by this person. I think it was the first time I said all the, I felt like before then I was going to be smart enough to avoid my destiny. And I said, I'm going to avoid that. I'm not going to be that kind of person. I'm not going to be dominated by a man. And you live in a community where teen pregnancy was commonplace. And I wasn't going to be that way. But after that rape, I didn't believe in myself anymore. I thought, you know, I was foolish to ever think that I could.”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In 1979, world-famous icon and actress, Jane Fonda, met Mary Williams at Jane's performing arts camp. Mary came from a low-income dysfunctional family in Oakland, California. Her home and surroundings were riddled with drug users, pimps, and alcoholics. At CAP, Jane and Mary took an immediate liking to each other. Four years after they met, Jane invited Mary into her home, offering Mary a future and life she could never dream of. Was it about this young girl That made you because the camp there are multiple children. I'm sure you're trying to embrace them all.”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I long for those panties with the days of the week because then you were really rich if you could have a pair of panties for every day of the week. Absolutely. And that's when I realized that I was poor. I love what you said about Jane. It opened my heart to read it. She focused on me taking in everything I said as if it were the most fascinating thing she'd ever heard. She hugged me whenever we crossed paths at the camp. She held my hand when we walked together. This touch, this healthy, loving touch was a revelation. You know what I loved about that? I bet you didn't even know that that's what you were doing”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You talk about in this book. I'm like, oh my God, somebody else had that instrument. The first, Jane, we'll get to you in a minute. The first is fascinating. No, the first time I realized I was poor. When was it for you? Yeah, it was at that summer camp when all the girls in my bunk, there were like five of us sharing a bunk. And I saw the stuff they were unpacking from their suitcases. It was a two-week stay. And I had a pair of shorts that were also going to double as my swimsuit along with a t-shirt, a couple pair of underwears, an afro pick, I think. Nothing. And these girls were like had five different swimsuits. And I talk about this one girl who had underwear, seven pairs of underwear with the days of the week stamped on them. Oh my God, I long for that.”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Kind of sex object in a way. And so, and that in a way is not being seen as well. I learned so much about my own childhood, particularly that period in puberty. I actually never thought about it that way before until I heard you describe it. That there's this sense of you are now prey. And I had never articulated it because I felt it in my neighborhood. Everywhere you went, men looked at you as though you were a piece of meat. Tell me about that first day at camp because I also had a similar experience when I was put in a school in Milwaukee outside of the inner city. And when I was bus, I was put on the bus with all the maids in the morning and I would go out to the suburbs and then come back into the inner city in the evening. It's the first time I realized I was poor.”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, yeah. I was raised in the children are seen and not heard. Yes. So your opinions don't matter. Shut up. Yes. So not being seen in that sense. And then as I developed after puberty, you know, being seen.”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That is the place where you would be most seen, not when you go to a camp in the hills of Santa Barbara. Tell me what you mean by being seen. That's good. I think being in the family that I was in, being one of the youngest, I was number five in a group of six, you can get lost. And so I was kind of lost in my house and grown folks' business and grown folks talk. I mean, I was kind of shunted out of a lot of interactions with adults just because kids don't have that relationship. I know I couldn't believe you. It's the same life.”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So you had gone to camp, Santa Barbara. Little black girl in a family of black panthers. Yes. And you meet Jane Fonda. Yes. I saw her at the camp and I knew she was famous. I think she was probably one of the most famous actresses at the time. And that was exciting. But I think the whole experience, being outside of Oakland for the first time, being around so many different people, white people in general, it was a cultural shift and just a little bit of cultural shock being around people who could see me. I mean, really see me and talk to me and inquired about me and opened me up to new things. And it was terrifying at first, but then I just embraced it and I ran with it. Explain what you mean when you say when people could really see me because you would think that in your community, in your neighborhood, in your family,”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“My mother was drinking very heavily, and she was also a very angry person. And it was unbearable. I knew that she couldn't stand the sight of me or having me around. And I think as we got older, she had this sense of duty to feed us in houses. But I think that's kind of where it ended. And as soon as we got older, she just wanted us out. And I knew she wanted us out. And she would tell me I want you out. Mary's way out came through her uncle Landon. He was an officer in the Black Panther Party, a group the FBI called at the time the greatest threat to the nation's internal security. Landon knew Jane Fonda through her work with the Panthers. When Jane invited kids from Oakland to her children's camp at Laurel Springs, Uncle Landon sent his niece Mary. Like Jane, Landon calls his niece by her nickname Lulu.”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Mary's parents were very involved, members of the Black Panther Party. It was considered an extremist group formed in the late 60s to fight police brutality against African Americans. Mary attended the Black Panthers Elementary School. Her father spent most of Mary's childhood in prison for his role in a shootout with police. Mary writes that her mother was cold and indifferent to her. There's a time in the book where you described your mother as being joyless with having children and that she was doing it out of a sense of duty, I have to tell you, my whole life, I've been looking for what the word was that I felt for my mother. And that is the word. Yes. That is the word out of a sense of duty. What was life like at home with your mother at the time? Can you describe it for us as you have here?”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean And there was a time whenever we would go to a Black Thie event, I would never want to do the red carpet, or I kind of shied away from those moments where you never thought that she was like hiding you? No. No. And you were never hiding her. It's just something you didn't talk about. First of all, let me just say you do such a beautiful job in the lost daughter. It's such a beautiful job. By the time I finished, I have to tell you, I had a reckoning with myself about my own family because we have so many similarities and your reconciling is a part of what I was trying to do. In her memoir, The Lost Daughter, Mary, vividly recounts her tumultuous childhood in East Oakland.”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I quickly notice friends and family call Mary by her nickname, Lulu. Well, I have to say, this is your first interview, actually, with your daughter. Most of the world didn't even know that you had Mary as a daughter.”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Became close, sensing something special in Mary, Jane wanted to save her from a bleak future. With no fanfare, no press release, no paparazzi photos, Jane Fonda opened her home and started to raise Mary as her daughter. It's been almost 30 years now, and Jane is still mom to marry.”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In 1967, Jane Fonda started making the cult film Barbarella. The Vietnam War was raging and the summer of love was in full swing. That same year a baby named Mary Loana Williams was born in the toughest, poorest area of Oakland, California. Mary was the fifth of six children. Her parents were both active members of the militant Black Panther movement. Within her family and neighborhood, Mary was surrounded by drugs, prostitution, teen pregnancy, and alcoholism. In nineteen seventy nine, Mary's uncle Landon, her father's brother, noticed that Mary was neglected by her family. He feared for her safety in Oakland. He enrolled eleven year old Mary in Laurel Springs summer camp, a performing arts retreat created by Jane Fonda and her then husband Tom Hayton. During the several summers, Mary spent at Laurel Springs, she and Jane.”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There are many faces of American icon Jane Fonda. She's movie legend Henry Fonda's daughter, a two time academy award winning actress, an outspoken activist, a famous wife, the best selling fitness expert of all time, an author of five books that have sold millions. Jane's personal life has been an open book. I've admired her for always speaking so candidly about bulimia, sex, aging, plastic surgery. Tonight our next chapter Jane reveals yet another side, one very few in the public know about, Jane Fonda's first ever interview with her African American daughter, Mary.”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'm Oprah Winfrey. Welcome to Super Soul Conversations, the podcast. I believe that one of the most valuable gifts you can give yourself is time, taking time to be more fully present. Your journey to become more inspired and connected to the deeper world around us starts right now.”
2020-07-01 · Oprah's Super Soul · Jane Fonda and Mary Williams · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source