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Mary Roach

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  1. But Tinder's just the first Tinder is the same as for my generation walking into the party and going, he's cute, he's cute. All right, I'm going to, those are the three I'm going to go talk to. That's all Tinder is. At a certain point, you have to actually touch each other and make a connection and have a conversation. So Tinder isn't replacing anything but that initial, right?

    2017-10-18 · Conversations with Tyler · Mary Roach on Disgust, Death, and Danger (Live at Mason) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. No, I think because it's not another person and there isn't any emotional connection, there's not any exchange of intensity, energy, all the things that make sex

    2017-10-18 · Conversations with Tyler · Mary Roach on Disgust, Death, and Danger (Live at Mason) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  3. Further away from it. It pushed me toward not saying yes so readily to things. Because while it was wonderful for the book, one of those things that as it's happening, it's tremendously awkward, but I knew that it would be really fun to write up. As a writer, it was going to be really fun. But yeah, I don't want society to reach a point where we're all casually having sex in front of someone like Dr. Dang, as lovely as he was as a person to be there in the room. I think that we're all better off with some Sense of quiet reluctance.

    2017-10-18 · Conversations with Tyler · Mary Roach on Disgust, Death, and Danger (Live at Mason) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  4. Taboos, you know, we're talking about taboos, the things that we The things that we tend to shy away from. And I think there's a reason that cultures do that, but I think you can do it. It can take into an extreme. I think it is unhealthy. I mean, if you think of the way that we as a culture used to deal with the death in a family, there was a process of laying the body out in the parlor, I think it was, and dressing and cleaning the body and having people in. And there was a level of comfort with the body that I think made people a little more comfortable with death. And at a certain point, the mortuary business kind of took that away and put it behind a curtain. And I think that we all became more uncomfortable in general with death in a way that wasn't helpful or healthy. I think the pendulum has swung back. So I think some, you know, some medium.

    2017-10-18 · Conversations with Tyler · Mary Roach on Disgust, Death, and Danger (Live at Mason) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  5. Yeah, yeah, yes, yes, I think that I think we all do a really good job of putting the icky things out of our heads because everything that comes in between is kind of miraculous. Yeah. I think there's a lot to be, yeah, you know, getting pregnant and bringing life into the world is this emotionally exciting and amazing and uplifting thing. And you try not to think about the afterbirth and the labor and all of that. Well, sure.

    2017-10-18 · Conversations with Tyler · Mary Roach on Disgust, Death, and Danger (Live at Mason) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  6. Wow, I know for a long time there was no income tax, there was no state income tax, so perhaps people have been compound savings over the years.

    2017-10-18 · Conversations with Tyler · Mary Roach on Disgust, Death, and Danger (Live at Mason) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  7. Well, when I went, I haven't been lately, but when I went, it was right after the peace treaty with Ranamo, there was no tourism, so it was a fascinating place because there wasn't the high come by my wares. People looked at you.

    2017-10-18 · Conversations with Tyler · Mary Roach on Disgust, Death, and Danger (Live at Mason) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  8. Underrated It's a place of light and sky and ice and snow and all of these things interplay in a way that three or four times a day the same place looks magically different and just the light. Again, it's the kind of place somebody might go, why would you want to go there? It's just a bunch of snow, but just the amazing stunning, beautiful, just ice. There's 17 different kinds. There's brash ice. I can't remember the other 16, but just more varied and spectacular than you would think. The word barren gets used a lot that should be retired from descriptions of Antarctica.

    2017-10-18 · Conversations with Tyler · Mary Roach on Disgust, Death, and Danger (Live at Mason) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  9. Okay, overrated because just a lot of drive time, just a lot get, you know, speed it up, yes, and then underrated because I think people go, like my age, when I began to work on the book, I sent my agent this photograph like, look, this is Mars. And he goes, looks like the outskirts of Las Vegas. It's like people think, hey, looks like a cat litter box. I don't know. It doesn't, but it's just, it's another planet. The moon or Mars, either one, just the fact that you're on another planet, that should be, it can't be rated highly enough. But the getting there.

    2017-10-18 · Conversations with Tyler · Mary Roach on Disgust, Death, and Danger (Live at Mason) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  10. Because the maggot is associated, we have terrible associations with, we associate maggots with dead decomposition, danger, horrible, rotting nightmare, horror movies. So

    2017-10-18 · Conversations with Tyler · Mary Roach on Disgust, Death, and Danger (Live at Mason) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  11. I don't know. I suppose cooked well enough it would be safe, but there'd probably be some certain guidelines that you might want to share with the novice roadkill eater.

    2017-10-18 · Conversations with Tyler · Mary Roach on Disgust, Death, and Danger (Live at Mason) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  12. I think there should be some basic things that you should be able to detect. Yes, have read my books. Detect fresh roadkill from quite old, you know, the kind that you would have to scrape up, that's probably not good for dinner.

    2017-10-18 · Conversations with Tyler · Mary Roach on Disgust, Death, and Danger (Live at Mason) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  13. Oh, they should definitely allow it, but I think that you should, it might be good to have, I'm assuming that the permit you have to take a little test, perhaps.

    2017-10-18 · Conversations with Tyler · Mary Roach on Disgust, Death, and Danger (Live at Mason) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  14. But the French true, but chocolate has, I don't know the number of different amazing volatile vapors, gases coming up and being really, it's a very complicated coffee, wine, beer, chocolate. The reason people do it with those and not French fries, not to belittle the French fry, but it's not quite as complex perhaps.

    2017-10-18 · Conversations with Tyler · Mary Roach on Disgust, Death, and Danger (Live at Mason) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  15. Hold it in your mouth and you exhale a little bit, it's just a completely different experience. Don't exhale too much because then you have like, what is it, nasal regurgitation where it comes out the nose. So don't do that. But holding it in the mouth, heating it up and exhaling a bit, it's a very, there's just so much more going on in there. And that is something from gulp that kind of changed how I eat. I do when I think to do it slow down, hold it there. I don't like to think too...

    2017-10-18 · Conversations with Tyler · Mary Roach on Disgust, Death, and Danger (Live at Mason) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  16. Yes, I think you would enjoy food more mindful eating, as they say. I think a lot of times you don't even notice it. I mean, I'm speaking personally. I often eat without really thinking. But if you think about it and you chew it, also here's a tip. This is something I hadn't realized. You have two sets of nostrils, one in the back, up in the back of your mouth, and on the exhale, you are smelling. You know how you're smelling on the inhale? You're also smelling on the exhale. You're wafting those vapors, those volatiles up into the nose. So while you're chewing, if you exhale, or with wine in your mouth, I mean, you get this whole, you're experiencing so much more of the flavor. I mean, most of what your experience of food is, is flavor, which is olfactory. So if you slow down and also let it heat up, that also releases vapors.

    2017-10-18 · Conversations with Tyler · Mary Roach on Disgust, Death, and Danger (Live at Mason) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  17. You could push a bunch of them The French fry to me is a vehicle for mayonnaise. So I'm using it just essentially to spoon up small glops of mayonnaise. I'm a one at a time. I'm a one fry at a time gal though a little bit depending. I mean, if they're those skinny ones, some of these skinny ones, those you need to shove in at least four or five of the little skinny ones.

    2017-10-18 · Conversations with Tyler · Mary Roach on Disgust, Death, and Danger (Live at Mason) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  18. First, it was just so not the first thing he said. He was the head of the unit. And so after the bomb had gone off and he saw that he put on his tourniquet when they all carry their own two tourniquets, fortunately, the first thing he said was who's hit, who's hit. Is everyone okay? And he was actually trying to stand up. They had to hold him down anyway. His junk was not the first thing on his mind. Anyway, that's the misconception. That's the misconception that comes.

    2017-10-18 · Conversations with Tyler · Mary Roach on Disgust, Death, and Danger (Live at Mason) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  19. One specific thing that you hear a lot about soldiers, particularly in the most recent conflicts in the Middle East with IEDs, there's something, I heard this a few times, IED goes off, a soldier, the first thing that a soldier asks or says when the bomb goes off and the medics come over, the first thing he's going to say is, is my junk okay? Because I did a chapter that had to do with injuries to the genitals, which have as the explosions have gotten bigger and the medical care has gotten better, you're seeing more and more men are surviving to have that kind of injury. Anyway, I interviewed somebody who just had surgery to repair his urethra. Anyway, I said, tell me the story of how that happened. And I was waiting for the point where he said, and I looked around on the medic came over and I said, is my junk okay?

    2017-10-18 · Conversations with Tyler · Mary Roach on Disgust, Death, and Danger (Live at Mason) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  20. Helpful with wounds. A maggot does a natural form of debridement or debridement. I've been corrected in both directions. Because maggots, as we know, they like dead bodies. They like dead tissue. They don't want their menu preference is dead tissue. So a wound that is infected, and this was something that was figured out in World War I, that these soldiers would come in with these kind of horrific wounds. They'd been lying in the field. They'd come in, they'd have maggots in the wound. And this one surgeon, William Baer, noticed that when you remove the maggots, there was this healthy pink new tissue growing in and there wasn't infection. And it led him, he saw it over and over and realized that maggots were therapeutic, and they are used to this day. There's a Medicare reimbursement code for maggots.

    2017-10-18 · Conversations with Tyler · Mary Roach on Disgust, Death, and Danger (Live at Mason) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  21. Even more so. But flies, yes, flies are, there's a term that is used in agriculture called fly worry and that is when flies are particularly dense in a desert climate or dry climate when there's not a lot of food and water, flies are very aggressive. Any moisture at all, including the eyes, so they're going for a cow around the eyes so much so that the fly is so obsessed with and focused on getting rid of flies that it just doesn't eat and they can die that way. They can lose anyway fly worry is a it's a concern. It's a thing. Anyway, but flies, I have a lot to say about, I don't know how much you want to go into flies in the military. I have more to say than the average person on flies. Flies are both good and bad. Young flies, maggots can be helpful.

    2017-10-18 · Conversations with Tyler · Mary Roach on Disgust, Death, and Danger (Live at Mason) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  22. Zippers. Well, a zipper specifically would be a problem for a sniper who's spending a lot of time lying down on his, I'm going to say his, though there may be his or her. Let's just say his or her belly. Okay, so buttons or a zipper would be uncomfortable. And this is the kind of thing that Natic Labs where they design clothing and accessories for soldiers. The kind of thing they think about while I was there, fashion studio, which is manned by staffed by people with fashion degrees, they had designed a quite sort of streamlined sniper top with a side closure for that reason that would. And zipper also, if you have a zipper here and you're lying in the dirt, the dirt gets into the teeth of the zipper and then it doesn't work very well. And you're a sitting target.

    2017-10-18 · Conversations with Tyler · Mary Roach on Disgust, Death, and Danger (Live at Mason) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  23. But I sometimes get a nice note from a reader who's lost someone recently who found that book stiff, helpful in some way, I guess maybe demystifying things or making death being dead kind of just the next phase of life. I don't know. It didn't help me in that way, but it seems to sometimes help other people. Does that count?

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  24. Not even no, and I'm not even, I haven't even, this is embarrassing to admit, but I haven't even signed, I went so far as to get the forms for donating my body for research, either to my two choice would be UCSF and Stanford, which are the two schools near where I live that take cadavers. And I have the forms that I never made the decision. And I'm kind of like a high school senior, who's got the better view from the anatomy lab. I didn't pull the trigger. So obviously I haven't, I talk the talk. I believe it's really important. And practically speaking, I know that I'm dead. I'm not going to be, I'm not going to feel any pain. I won't feel any embarrassment. I'm gone. So why don't I do it? Obviously, I haven't completely. I didn't glean anything at all from all the work that I did.

    2017-10-18 · Conversations with Tyler · Mary Roach on Disgust, Death, and Danger (Live at Mason) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  25. Not consciously, but I my mother was very not strict but very Catholic. There's no such thing as a forensic relicologist. Although I did find that Oxford University does have a, there's someone there just carbon dating who has a specific interest in religious relics.

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  26. Superpower in that they don't feel anything, and so you can use them to get answers that you couldn't in any other way because you don't want to do that to a live person. So we trip over this fact that they look like people, which is why frequently the face is covered, the hands are covered, even in surgical practice labs. There's a lingering tendency to kind of depersonalize and dehumanize the body.

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  27. Well, we have a tendency because dead people look very much like live people. There's a tendency to project the emotions that we had, particularly if it's somebody that you know who's died, it's a tendency to treat them as though they're still people and to accord them the same sort of courtesies and respect. And this is problematic for people who do cadaver research because there's a tendency to say that to cut this person open and to take their pancreas and do one thing and send their arm over to the automotive safety lab and take their brain over here to put them in pieces like that and to do these sort of seemingly brutal things is disrespectful. I mean it would be disrespectful if the person were alive. Well, it would be criminal, would be actionable, but they're dead. They aren't the person anymore. As a cadaver, they have this wonderful...

    2017-10-18 · Conversations with Tyler · Mary Roach on Disgust, Death, and Danger (Live at Mason) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  28. Pushing too hard. Don't push too hard, people. They say, No, you can induce an arrhythmia that can be fatal. So for this is why they put heart patients in the ICO on stool softeners. This is why. So you don't have to push so hard. This is a first for your show, isn't it? This is not defecation induced sudden death. That doesn't come up with a tool go, well, maybe a tool go on day, possibly. Jess Sachs mentioned it in his session.

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  29. All right, so okay, if you're using a bed pan, you're lying flat, and that's not a natural and facilitative position for defecation. Squatting would be great. Toilet pretty good. Lying down, not good. So not good. You're going to have to push harder. And if you're in the ICU, if you're a heart patient, you are at risk of defecation-induced sudden death.

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  30. Well, funny, you should ask bed pans are dangerous. That's not, okay, this is going to bring us to defecation. It's your fault. Okay. All right.

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  31. Hope that works. They put a lap type computer open up on top of one of the banks of lamps with a randomly generated simple image so that if the person traveled up there, left the body and looked down, not only would they see their body, but they would notice, huh, that's peculiar, there's a laptop computer here with a flower or whatever it is. And then when they came out of surgery, they routinely interview people. Did you remember anything about your experience? They gave up because nobody remembered anything.

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  32. I don't know whether most people do, but I know for sure that most people forget everything that happens in the OR now because of the Versaid is one of the drugs that's used. And people are coming out of surgery. It's very, very rare now that anybody said, darnedest thing. I was floating up above. They just don't remember anything because there was this, my favorite study from Spook, my second book, was the University of Virginia psychologist who studies near-death experience had this idea because near-death people who've had a near-death experience often report floating in the operating room looking down onto their body on the operating table. So in this specifically an operating room where they put in defibrillators, which they then test by flatlining you and then making sure the fibrillator

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  33. And then, like the spark, how are they going to like it's not like you pull the cord on the lawnmower and rev the thing up again? I'm not sure. I think it's, and you know what else, you know what's interesting about cryogenics is I would cryonics. I never know if it's cryogenics or cryonics. A lot of interesting legal issues because if those people who've done that believe they're coming back, they feel like they're in suspension and they're not dead and that one day they will be back and they're going to need their cash to live. So their heirs, their estates, like this is my money, but legally they're They're saying they're not dead, so

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  34. To be just ahead. Yeah, just ahead. Well, with the chance. Yeah. Yeah, good luck with that. No, it doesn't. No, because not only, first of all, they've got to solve the whole freezing thawing, and that's going to destroy the cells. Right now, what can they do? Like one layer of cells freezenthaw, right? Your basic sperm and egg. You got that freeze thaw. But a whole head, I just don't see that coming anytime soon. And then to reattach, although reattaching.

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  35. Is this embarrassing for you? Are you okay with this? I mean, are they treating you respectfully? Do you wish you had some clothes on?

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  36. Is this a research corpse or is this a research corpse? It's a research corpse. Okay, I'm just defining our parameters here. If you could talk with a research corpse, okay, I know what I would ask. I would say, because this is my, you know, as somebody who wrote this book stiff about medical catavaric research, it kind of behooves me to donate myself and yet I still trip over that image instead of having the image of my husband tears coming down scattering ashes over the Pacific, which is quite lovely and romantic, I have first-year medical students eating a sandwich and like looking at, girls, look at her skin here.

    2017-10-18 · Conversations with Tyler · Mary Roach on Disgust, Death, and Danger (Live at Mason) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  37. But then you have to keep in mind this is somebody for whom hooping, as it's called, everybody does it. It's just something that you do and there's no, it's every day to him. For a sex researcher talking about orgasm is like talking about tire rotation for a car mechanic. It's not like, oh, you just made me uncomfortable asking me about orgasm. So it isn't really a talent secretly. It's nothing, but it's just I don't know if that's my special. I don't know. I guess that's what I'm going to go with.

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  38. Um my special talent by Mary Roach I think that I don't have any this isn't a talent it may be a character flaw I don't have a lot of hesitation or kind of self-censoring when it comes to asking questions I'm just balls out with my curiosity so it's never uncomfortable and this is something because people sometimes say well the questions that you ask people is it an awkward interview when you say you know when you talked you went to Avenul State prison for the rectum chapter of Gulp and you talking to this convicted murderer about using his rectum to smuggle cell phones and other things and was that not a very awkward conversation to have and a little bit

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  39. Diapers, you're not disgusted by your lover saliva, so you've extended the boundary of the self to include these people very close to you. So I found bodily fluids interesting in that way.

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  40. That's an interesting theory. Disgust, but bodily fluids are, what I found interesting about the things that disgust us, whether it's saliva or urine or whatever it is. To me interesting that we draw this line when it's inside of us, we don't have a problem with it. But as soon as it leaves the body, even if it's our own saliva, it becomes disgusting. And you can kind of map the boundaries of the self, like if there's saliva on your tongue and you stick your tongue outside the body as it grows still. I mean, that's like you can map the boundaries and you can extend, this is not my Paul Rosen writes a lot about disgust, and I believe it was he talked about that, but you extend those boundaries to include your loved ones. You're not disgusted by your child.

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  41. Wow, I never really brought Freud into that chapter. That's interesting. I always discussed the things that are disgusting are often stinky smelly dangerous bacteria laden things so it sort of makes evolutionary sense that we would want to push it away. So what would tell me again, Freud, what did Freud's?

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  42. Anyway, yeah, so I'm not sure exactly what you wanted me to say about stimulated versus unstimulated saliva, but I'm often running, obviously.

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  43. Well, right now, yes, I need more on stimulated saliva right now because otherwise you're going to get those horrible mouth sounds that radio people hate. But that's the kind of thing I get very excited about, the fact that there are two different kinds. Not only are there two different kinds of saliva, but there's two different ways of collecting it. So that's kind of exciting for me. We don't need to go in, we don't have to go into that, but the fact that there is this, there's a little you chew stimulated saliva, just chewing. It doesn't matter what you chew. Your mouth is like, well, whatever it is that you've got in there, I'm going to help you get it down. And so they're actually chewing on essentially it's like a tampon. And you chew on that and your body, your mouth confusedly generates saliva to help you swallow that tampon. Unused. Unused.

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  44. I like to, I don't want to adjust too quickly, actually, because something happens when you dive into a topic and you start out with a sense of wonder and hesitation and curiosity, and it's all very electric and fresh. And then after a couple of years, you're like, yeah, gastrocolic reflex boring. You start to become like the people that you're speaking. The researchers for whom it's day-to-day, and I don't want things to be day-to-day. So I actually like to slow down that. Or I'd like if I could to slow down that process of feeling comfortable.

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