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Matt Hancock

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“Thanks for giving me the chance. I don't think you're naive at all. You're self-knowing, and that's the most important thing to know.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And the third one I hope that I hope to have, I mean, it's sort of both, it's so obvious, but it, and I'm going to put some answer it more specifically. I hope to have... improve the country that I love. And, you know, if, for instance, that is making sure that every single dyslexic child gets both the capability to read and write and be effective and the self-esteem that comes with that, then that would be wonderful. And I'm lucky to have a platform in Parliament and through the fact that I'm fairly well known to be able to try to affect change. And that's what I want to do.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We've been through a lot together. And, you know, that's the joyous bit, that's the easy bit. There's a lot of very difficult things that have to. You know Having fallen in love with Gina is the easy bit.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Pretty ambitious. The number one is I want my children to be happy. and have fulfilling lives. That is Undoubtedly. The second is that I will have I want to have a happy and loving and fulfilling life and relationship. For the rest of my days.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I have. I feel like because we've been able to have a long conversation, you know, there's a few of those, a few things I've been able to explain, explain the thinking behind. But I also hope that we can have a proper debate about how the pandemic side is dealt with properly in the future. And we can learn the lessons as best we can. And I think that's important.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“This is something I really care about. I never got round to doing it in government. I actually had assembled the little team to push on this in the Department for Health after the election, but those people got moved on to have to deal with the pandemic. So for me, this is unfinished business. And for the, you know, hundreds of thousands of dyslexic kids out there, if I can show them, if I can show just one of them that you can succeed as a dyslexic person and you can make it as long as you get the support you need, as long as you get, you know, you get identified, then it will have been worth it. So it really, really matters to me. And I'm sure we can make loads of progress.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So I was only identified as dyslexic at university. And I know despite really good teachers, it would have been so much easier for me because before I was identified, I just thought I was stupid and bad at English. And some people say you shouldn't identify, you know, you shouldn't tell dyslexic kids they're dyslexic because then they'll be labelled. But I labeled myself as useless with words. And kids do that. But still, today only one in five children are identified at school. And I think this is ridiculous, especially in a world where you can have online assessments that they can't give you the formal diagnosis, but they can give you the data that says this person, this child's highly likely to be dyslexic. So I'm campaigning for that. And in a way, it's one of these things that, you know, now that I've got, I can choose how I spend my time as a backbench.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yet, but remember at that time it subsequently transcribed that Dominic Cummings was trying to get me fired. Right. And if you look at those text exchanges, they're like a diatribe against what I was up to. And that didn't actually reflect what was going on. So Boris has apologized for the way that came over, but actually and for sending those messages. But actually, if you look at it in context, the context is this guy was trying to get me fired. He sent a load of aggressive messages to the Prime Minister responded as he did in a private setting, never expecting that to become public. So I'm completely, you know. There are people who really want to fix things and improve things in life. And I'd rather be that type of person.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, but you know, the Prime Minister has so many other things on his plate as well, right? He's got Russia, Crimea, and he's got the getting out of the pandemic. That was a big call, especially the response to Omicron getting that right. Coming through first, so he's got all these other big things on his plate.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's obviously very difficult. But I do think you've got to look at the big picture of, you know, we're coming out of the pandemic now and that's in part, in large part, because of the big calls.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“try to mend, to try to be kind, to try to... Try to. Try to make on the fact obviously try to make things better. And then on the professional side, you know, I've got other things I'm interested in. I actually don't miss this job as much as I expected, right? I'm really enjoying the freedom of being on the back benches on the professional side. And I'm absolutely, you know. I'm absolutely in love with Gina, and that helps a bit.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Being health secretary is not nearly as difficult as worrying about your children in a very public divorce. Undoubtedly, this, you know, going through that is undoubtedly the hardest thing I've ever done by a long, long way.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, after 24, 48 hours, it wasn't really after the press. It was that, you know, some people I really respect got in contact and told me about things that they had been not able to do. Like, you know, seeing dying relatives Even though, and And I realized that it was unsustainable.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't hold it against the journalists for publishing it. But obviously, you know, it was a very serious data protection breach, if you like. The thing that we've learned, and I think all my other colleagues in cabinet learned immediately, is why did you have a CCTV in the Secretary of State's office? Obviously, I didn't know about it. And because even who's in the office is an important fact and a sensitive piece of information. But all of that is by them by because it is not the responsibility of others that those social distancing guidelines were broken. That is my responsibility. And I took responsibility for having done that.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And, you know, my honest feeling I have in response to that question is I just don't care. Actually, there's a funny story, which is that... The best I know is that it was one of the security guards in the department. There's a current ICO investigation. I don't know any of the details of that investigation. I haven't got any inside information other than that, which is public. However, the investigation is based on a law, data protection law, that I took through Parliament, into which I personally put a journalistic exemption. So”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It was awful It was awful because the You know, we obviously knew what was going on, but we wanted to. To do this as unpainfully as possible and by the release of those images obviously that caused a huge amount of pain. And it was been, I mean anybody knows how difficult it is. You know, ending a relationship. And we have six children, it's tough. But, you know, Juna and I love each other very deeply. Where are we? Seven eight months later. Gets a bit easier with time. But I have no sort of Don't hold it against anybody I take responsibility”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, you know, nobody, you know, it all happened quite quickly. It actually happened after this sort of thing stopped being, after the rules were lifted. But the guidance was still in place. So I'm not trying to claim that, yeah, I hold no bitterness about this because I broke the rules. I fess up. I broke the guidance. And, you know, there were only two people responsible for this. And ultimately that's why I resigned. I took responsibility for my decision and I resigned.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The pain that that's caused and the very, very, very public nature, you know, anybody who's been through this knows how difficult it is, how painful it is, doing that in public is incredibly painful. But I fell in love with”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That is my absolute response. So I resign because I broke the social distancing guidelines. By then, they weren't actually rules, they weren't the law, but that's not the point. The point is they were the guidelines that I'd been proposing. And That happened because I fell in love with somebody. And I've known Gina for more than half of my life. And we first actually worked together on student radio back in the Oxford days. And I brought her into the department to help with public communications in the same way we brought loads of brilliant people in who were experts in their field. And so we spent a lot of time together, ironically trying to get me to be able to communicate in a more emotionally intelligent way. And we fell in love. You know, that's something that That was completely outside of my control. And I, of course, I regret”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, but those rules were not in place when this all this happened. So there's a way that we can do this bit of the conversation, but we cannot do it with you starting talking about casual sex.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't mind all of it except the opening bit about casual. Okay, fine. I haven't had casual sex with anybody who fell in love with somebody.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Boris has a background as different from the voters of Hartleypool as it's possible to get. He can reach people. And I think that's actually, I think he's a good. I put him in the Barack Obama category, actually. Yeah, for people of a different politics. Yeah, I would. Because he's one of the few people who really just will withstand the sort of criticism of the... Of the next day's press in order to try to actually say how he feels, he's a very, very Emotionally engaged person.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I disagree with that. I think that one of the reasons that Boris relates to people and people relate to him is because he doesn't speak in, as you call it political speak one of the reasons he is such an effective communicator whether you agree with him or not is that he doesn't play by those rules”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That was a bit of a mistake. I know. Huns back to a wonderful thing. Do you know, I'll tell you a story. The first time I did any questions, when I was new in Parliament, you go for a meal before you do any questions. And Nigel Farage was on as well. And he had two pints. And I said to him, yeah, I need two pints before going on your question. He said, yeah, because otherwise I can't talk freely. And I sat next to him and he managed to get every single question to answer about why Europe was awful. But he just absolutely, you know, he had a couple of pipes and he sounded like he'd had a couple of pints. Now, you know, whatever you think of his politics, his ability to communicate in a relaxed way. And I remember thinking every time I then saw him, that was years before the referendum. Every time you obviously been drinking.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But it is, but it's in particular in response to the aggressive questions. So you have not asked any aggressive questions. You've asked. Insightful questions instead. But when you're on, you know, when you get type question, you give the type answer.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, more distant Yeah, yeah. No, and there ends up being a language of politics. And some people thinking that they don't understand the code of, you know, it's as if it's a code. And, you know, there is a, and it's just not helpful because it puts a barrier up. I work really hard at trying to do that. That's why I was so upset when I heard you say it's something I really respect saying that I'm an emotional wreck or whatever. No, emotional wreck, the opposite. It's emot”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know, because I'm relaxed now in the way that we're talking, there'll probably be something on mail online tomorrow, you know, Hancock's in such and such a Screw up, right? Because that's how I don't know what it is. I mean, we've been talking for so long, but there will be, that is how the media reacts. And so once you're kind of experienced in seeing that reaction, right? You also then it tempers how you talk. So actually coming in, one of the reasons I wanted to come in and talk to you was because I want to just talk freely. And I don't care if that is on item 10 of the mail online tomorrow. I'm just trying to answer the questions as best I can. And I genuinely think that is a better way of communicating in politics. And it's definitely something that I've learned.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, because the natural instinct when you're under, especially when you're under pressure in questioning, is to sort of. Go alpha male. isn't always the best answer.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, so one of the things I've learned without a shadow of a doubt is that you've just got to let that show. And I, you know, as a, I find that hard. And you just got to let that emotion show more and just try to be as you feel it. The podium doesn't help. The very formal So, the podium doesn't always help because it puts a barrier in place. But then you mentioned Barack Obama, and, you know, he said, the podium wasn't a problem for him. He was an extraordinary communicator, right? He's an extraordinary.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I hadn't seen the image, you know, the video of Margaret Keenan getting, I'm sure you're thinking of it now, right? We can all remember it. But I hadn't seen that image. And they showed the image. And I completely lost it. And I was in floods of tears and totally lost control of my body and my voice. And then I tried to pull it together and they said in my ear, you know, we're coming back to you in five. And I tried to pull it together. I just about got it together and then started talking to, I think it was Piers Morgan again. And on Twitter, they were like, this guy's making it up. He's not authentic. He was just trying to cry. And the honest truth was, if they'd come back to me like five seconds earlier, I would have been in a complete mess. And I was trying to hold myself together. And maybe as politicians, we do that too often. Maybe I should have just been more relaxed about it because I got a load of abuse for looking inauthentic because I was.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I knew that science was going to save us. But that wasn't the worst, you know, that was then the problem was at the same time, you know, we were having this second wave of getting really big. So it was a really mixed period because we had the joy that the vaccine was working. But at the same time, cases growing. And I was on Good Morning Britain.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, that was it was incredibly emotional it was. Because we'd put everything into this The very first vaccine down the track, so to speak, had worked. We bought six vaccines, including the Oxford one. Actually, one of them only got approved about two weeks ago. And imagine if that had been the case for all six. So the fact that the very first one Sailed through and has worked brilliantly. And then the Oxford one, like the home vaccine, that also has gone brilliantly, although there was a load of noise in the politics of it and the Europeans getting shirty. On a clinical basis has been amazing. And so on the 8th of December, The first person receives it, and this is the way out of this terrible situation that we're all in. And all these people have died.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, of course. Of course. I mean, I have to deal with these rumours all the time. Sometimes people stand up in Parliament and say it, and you just have to hit it on the head every time it comes up. It's just not true. But there's an underlying problem, which is that the people working to save lives in this period were working incredibly hard. Just deliver that as best as they could, and all the people who now Try to sort of say, oh no, no, you were trying to contracts for this, it's just all total rubbish. I mean, there is no other description of it.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So that's not true either. There you go. I mean, this is, I was given some shares in my sister's company, right? And they had a contract, an existing contract, with the Welsh NHS. And I wasn't responsible for the Welsh NHS. So it's another example.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, so these WhatsApps have been published under FOI. The WhatsApp was about something incredibly banal. It was about standardizing the size of these tubes across different suppliers. So that they could be made more efficient. I mean, like a really in the weeds bit of policy. And I just pinged this onto the people. I mean, it was. It was at a level of detail about eight below where I was.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Your test thing into, but we needed millions of these things, and somebody had to. I didn't have anything to do with the contracting arrangements because he was a subcontractor to another business. So there's no way that we, I mean, it's just a total nonsense. In a stressed period like a pandemic, a lot of conspiracy theories got going. This was one of them. There have been loads on vaccines from the antivax. So you've got to deal with that misinformation at the same time as trying to make the best decisions as you can. And that is one of the hardest things to wrestle with in terms of how we communicate.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, so I mean, this is an example of how you need to go through these things properly and how narratives can sort of spin out of control. And this is true on social media, which you're a great expert in, but it's also true in the mainstream media. So for some reason that is lost in the mists of time, some of the papers got the idea that the landlord in the village that I had previously lived in in Suffolk, who had then gone on to run this factory, had got a contract that I had given him. And it was on the front page of the Guardian for several days. And it was, and it's just not true. He didn't have a contract with the department. He didn't have a contract with the NHS. Yes, he flipped his factory to making those little plastic tubes, you know, the ones that you stick your...”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So it was once we found out that only a small proportion of the population had had it. It was obvious from then on that the only way out was through a vaccine, and therefore the policy became to suppress the virus until a vaccine makes us safe, and I then repeated that all the way through the summer, the autumn, and in the autumn I was arguing for, you know, to keep this thing under control because the vaccine's around the corner. And people were briefing against me that, no, Hancock's the only one who believes in the vaccine and it's a running joke that there's only one person who thinks the vaccine is going to happen. And partly to try to stop some of the complications that had happened in testing, I just spoke directly to the Prime Minister on this one and didn't go through his then advisors in number 10. And it came good.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Once we got to that point, there was only one way out, and that was a vaccine. And I believe in the power of human ingenuity. And I believed in the team in Oxford. And I also thought that when the whole world is searching for something, then... Then somebody was going to get it right. And so We brought in people to go and buy from around the world like Cape Bingham. And we took this attitude, which was, sure, we back the British one, but we're going shopping as well, right? And money is no object. And that's what we did. And thank God we did it.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right. At first, it was faith, and it gradually became more and more real. And I just knew that we'd got a vaccine for Ebola. And the Oxford vaccine actually comes from the work several years before to get an Ebola vaccine. And I had, I just had this belief. And maybe it's because I'm an optimist. Once the data came out in about May that showed that only this tiny proportion of the public had. Had antibodies and had had exposure. And therefore, it was obvious and categorically impossible to get to the levels of antibodies you need across society without huge amount of suffering and death, i.e. the people who'd been promoting herd immunity were now evidently and scientifically wrong. It wasn't just it was a bad idea, it was provably a bad idea.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The truth there is that some people were pushing the herd immunity idea. And then it bubbled up and came to a head. And I went out and... Killed it. So, how was it? I was like, no, we are not doing that.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“will be taken and analysed, for better or for worse, and I don't hold this against the media particularly, but they will look at those words both within the context. And out of context. And so, you know, this is true of this interview, but I knew that coming into it and have decided just to try to answer the questions. But that is part of communication. So Boris saying that some people say we should just, I can't remember the exact word. Take it on the chin, right? But I don't think that's the way we should do it. Instead, we should do it that way. It was written up as Boris Flute's idea of taking it on chin. Well, he did float the idea, but he then immediately rejected it for a different proposition.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But so one of the reasons it's hard to communicate in politics, and one of the reasons it's hard to communicate empathetically is that you have to both have the actual conversation, but also every single word you say.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I remember that he was actually trying to argue against that. He was saying, it comes down to how difficult it is to communicate an uncertainty. He was saying, some people are saying we ought to take it on the chin. I don't agree with that. I think we need to act.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So what I meant by gotcha is that the question of will you get the guy to say that there was X screw up is a classic of the today program. And actually, frankly, makes some of the decision making harder.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“perform at their best. They have to know that if they screw up, they're not going to get shouted at. The question is not who did that? How do we fix it And that attitude was a big part of how things we managed to get better. Testing is another example, right? Testing first, it was... No, it was far we didn't have any, we built it as fast as we could. That needed to go much faster. By this Christmas the Americans were saying, why can't we have a testing system like the UK? And my view is that Dido Harding did an amazing job. But every time we had a screw up, the question that we asked was how do we fix it, not whose fault is it?”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And then I feel, but I feel pleased. That we learnt quite a few things And in a way, we did. Better second time round. But the thing I felt at the time, and this is true in any organization I've been in, is that if you want people.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Go into the good stuff, right? We're going to come into the food. For everybody else. But the way I reacted that way is that it is self-evident and obvious that You've got to improve decisions and learn from them. And the best proof point of this. And the best sort of, it's obvious from anybody who's running any organization is you constantly got to be asking, was that the best decision? And part of leadership To allow your team Essentially learn from and change their decisions, not stay stuck with them. Just because that's the decision that we took. In the second and subsequent waves we have done relatively better internationally. So how I feel about all that is I feel Performance in the first half, if you like, was not as good as it could have been.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Combination of things, right? A combination of things like the timing of the decisions to lock down. The obesity of our nation compared to others is one another factor. One of the factors that the experts think is a cause is that lots of people travel from all over the UK to Spain and Italy during that half term. And so it was brought back and ceded across the whole country. Whereas some other countries like France had it very badly in a couple of cities but didn't have the spread in the way we did. So there's some things that are essentially, you know, just facts of life that were outside anybody's control. Obviously that's not what you're getting at. And it's not the stuff that really affects how I think about it because it's the... It's the active decisions We also need to, you know, we need to go through and learn from.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“To make sure that just because something is in the narrative doesn't necessarily mean it's true without doubt, if I'd known then what I know now, we would have brought in the staff movement rule much earlier. In fact, do you know what? You should probably have it in normal times as well because lots of people die each year in a flu in care homes. And the processes of how flu gets into a care home are probably the same. As COVID, because it's just another communicable disease.”
2022-02-28 · The Diary of a CEO · Matt Hancock: Opens Up About His Affair, Mistakes & The Pandemic · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT