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Matt Mullenweg

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“Social media, I think I need to be careful about that Particularly my Twitter X addiction, news consumption. My most dangerous is where something is sometimes productive or has some positive, but is probably net negative on a whole, or if I spend too many hours on it. Phone time in general, I'd love to get down, screen time in general.”
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“So, like a lot of the things we've talked about, and where I find a lot of joy and happiness, is typically in being generative. Making Consuming things, but I think it's very easy to fall into a consumption Like a hedonistic treadmill type thing. And that's nice sometimes when we're about to do the holidays. I'll definitely consume some stuff or it's nice to take a nice meal on vacation. But if that becomes your all-a-time... We've seen that happen to friends who've been successful and typically does not look great.”
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“I'm actually pretty excited about it. Why not try it? Try it out. I'm not really going to cook this stuff. So, yeah, just do some experiments there.”
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“Is it blueprint system? And you know, there's like the weird food that's like a gel or something. There's now a delivery service for that. So you get.”
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“Yeah, and it's so effective. I'll probably experiment with some stuff. You know, they just started to be this blueprint delivery service in San Francisco.”
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“One of the best ones. Yeah So, I think success for me is also, yeah, just come back really energized, excited, hopefully with a lot of inspiration and ideas, because I get a lot of inspiration from like art or stuff outside of WordPress.”
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“Probably different versions. Like relevance is maybe in a global context or in the company context and needing you is maybe even maybe like interpersonal. And so, like when I've done some meditations or some other work, that can be like a core fear of mine. Then maybe how have I designed organizations to need me? A way that's not healthy. This is one of the questions I ask myself. Or if you get a lot of benefit, and I do sometimes, you came in and saved the thing. That feels really nice, especially in a CEO job or a job which is very morphous. People are like, what do you actually do? I save the thing, you know But then are you hiring people that need saving a lot? What's the sort of shadow side of that? Jerry Colona, who I think you've had on, right?”
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“Kicking like hell underneath. So, I think that's the thing I'm looking forward to. What am I scared of? It's a weird thing we're also being scared like of people not needing you or irrelevance Which I think is like a really core fear for me It's not maybe not practical at automatic but like it there's something there”
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“I think for me is Adam recharged. The funny thing is people come back really wanting to work. And a typical thing I hear is like, kind of takes a month to unplug for your brain to reset. Month two, you just enjoy things. And month three, people start to get antsy to return. Which is... I don't know if that'll happen to me, but that's a pretty common arc. So I hope I come back with like a renewed energy. To be honest, this last kind of two years has been really, really hard. We had lots of business ups and downs. There's been all sorts of crazy stuff, the AI stuff. And I am a little toasty, to be honest. Like, not burnt out, but definitely at times a little more stressed than normal where it's really getting to me. And you always talk about how I'm so calm. Like, thank you. But also, like, you know, I'm human too, so it gets to me.”
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“And actually, something I'm debating is because I do love coding and computer stuff. And so, like, playing around with LED programming or something is maybe a sabbatical project. But I'm also like, I'm on the computer all day. So just for like a health reason, I think I should really get off. So, what's success? Well, it's kind of what we talked about for the organization. It should come back a lot stronger, and people should get a lot more robust.”
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“Yeah, it'll be just slash sabbatical. So a lot of people blog about their experience. And there's really all types. Some people have walked the El Camino for a couple months or done the Pacific Coast Crest thing. Some people just stay at home and chill out. It's really, it's all over the map. I don't think there's a right way to do it. Except hopefully not just do what you were doing before. And we do kind of like really strongly encourage people to unplug. Actually, someone just who's on sabbatical pinged me on Slack. And I was like, don't make me turn off your access.”
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“So funny because as of today, no, but probably by the time this gets published at automac.com slash sabbatical, we started working on a page. So, a lot of people blog their experience”
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“It also gives great leadership opportunities. So this was inspired by the former CEO of Automatic Tony Schneider, who just did this because he's cool and he did like a three-month road trip with his family. At the time he was CEO I was president, gave me an opportunity to practice being the CEO, and we saw what worked well and what didn't. Also led like, oh, we need to do this executive hire because Tony's really good at something and I'm not, so we need to hire someone to fill that in. These are part of the reasons I think it's awesome for organizations.”
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“It's two or three months, the organization needs to figure out how to work without that person. And so it's a great opportunity to identify those bottlenecks. Actually, some financial service firms require this. For auditing reasons, because if someone's in a critical path of some financial thing, it's actually a good practice to have someone else do that for a while. That's not really our primary concern”
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“Two things, yeah. And it's partially, I guess I could skip the board meeting. I'm kind of curious though, for this experience. So it's driven right now by curiosity. So the benefit. A lot of people think obviously the benefits to the person. You get the three months paytime off. So that's pretty cool. We now have people who've done multiple because they've been an automatic 10 or 15 years. And like some of the testimonials are amazing. Someone was like, yeah, I get to take a summer with my kids. I think they're doing their second or third one. They're like, this is the last one. Because after this, they're going to be in college. I'll never get this amount of time with them probably again for a long time. But there's also a benefit to the organization. It's funny. One people think people ask is they say, well, do people just take these and never come back? That's basically never happened. I think we've had people resign like maybe once or twice out of the like thousand, but like it's very rare. Two, if someone's out for like two weeks or three weeks, you just wait for them to come back. You don't actually look at the systems, at to which they are in the critical path for.”
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“In fairness So, I'm gonna try to do some detox, maybe some silent retreats, working on hobbies, plug chess, sailing. Ping pong, just fun unplugged stuff, but honestly I'm kind of scared too. So I've got one or two dates that are in there for in surgery, this word camp, but I'm just going to show up like attendee. I'll speak or something, but like I'm not going to help plan it or do anything like that. So even we're going to have a board meeting in there. And it's going to be a good practice. I talked about this with the team. Like, what are we going to do about this? It's like, well, I'll go to the board meeting, but I'll go to a board member, not like someone who... Planned out the agenda and everything like that. So I'll get the material while the other board members get it versus the multi-week period planning process and everything.”
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“Luckily, almost every other executive has. So, like the example gets set, but I finally was like, you know, I just need to pull the trigger. And so February, March, April, including during this word camp, I'm going to be officially on sabbatical. I'm honestly terrified. I'm sure you are. I don't know how to unplug for that. I mean, you saw me in Antarctica. I got weird.”
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“It kind of ties into that. Something I haven't told you, which is I am taking a sabbatical in 2024. Yeah, so Automatic has this benefit. Where every five years you get two to three months. Fully paid time And a hack on it to encourage people to take it. Is if you don't take it until you're seven, you don't get another one until you're twelve. Clock starts when you come back from the previous one. I extoll the benefits of this. Literally like hundreds and hundreds of people take them Maybe over a thousand at this point, I talk about why it's so amazing. I'm the biggest hypocrite in 18 years. I've not taken one myself.”
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“That's a real trip. That was our last podcast. Yeah, that was a pretty deliberate trip. That was a long one, too. That was a long”
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“Especially over the next few years. So I think it's like a kind of a perfect time to be there. Yeah, but hey, we got to figure out what you're doing at WordCamp Asia if you want to do a Q&A. I can interview you or give a talk on. Something you've learned? It's a cool audience.”
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“So, yeah, we'll probably get you in on the last day or something because I'll do a few days with all the WordPress stuff. And then just to explore the food, I've heard so many good things about Taiwan. It's also one of those places that kind of like Hong Kong 15 years ago, like, maybe you could visit Geographic, geopolitical hotspot”
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“Background, I still have that on my bookshelf. Nice. That brings I've never been to Taiwan. So WordCamp Asia March 7th through 9th. You graciously agreed to come. And part of like the pitch, which also I want to do is take a few days off afterwards and explore the country.”
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“And actually, the only time I've set foot in Taiwan, which is where Working Ambassador is this year, was we were connecting to Vietnam. Actually, an amazing story there, a cool Tim's story as well. There was something wrong with our tickets, and they weren't letting us bored. I thought”
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“You can do that with a key. So you can type in a password, or you can have public key stored on the server, which is not sensitive. Someone could have access to your public key and not get to anything. And then your private key, which is secret. And there's a calculation done between those which says, oh, this is really tim or the person with the key.”
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“And this is actually, I'm not sure the exact length of the key or anything like that, but imagine it like you have. A really unique, super long password, like maybe like a couple thousand characters. That is then stored in the Secure Enclave on your device And so one password can also support these, but basically it kind of gets people to use random passwords and it creates a better UI because they're logging in with their face or their fingerprint or something. That's probably the best way to describe it. What the protocol is doing is the browsers now support this as a standard. And so they do like a challenge response. So, if you've used SSH before, probably”
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“Is kind of a new thing for your audience. If a server supports patch keys, you should switch to it. So basically, it's a technology which eliminates passwords. Use like a secure key exchange. And as a user, what you'll see is that you just log in with scanning your face or something. And it's kind of built into the OS in a really secure way, and it's unique. Thing that breaks my heart is when people use the same password on multiple services. Never do that. All my passwords are like super random, like 40 character. I couldn't tell you if I wanted to. But, you know, you generate them. And that's kind of what this does in a better way.”
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“There's a lot of actively exploited stuff out there, two good passwords that you've talked about this. I like password managers like OnePassword. There's also this new thing coming out called pass keys.”
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“Easy stuff. Make sure your apps and operating system are always up to date. I actually get really excited. It's like one of the first things I do in the morning is load the app updates. So it makes yourself excited about that.”
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“Would say, yeah, maybe they know the resources. My steel man for why the bigger companies do this is they also get attacked a lot. Probably really underhanded ways So, it's as much defense as offense. And so that would be my sort of charitable interpretation of why they do some of these things.”
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“Think that's also something that companies It's all happening to each other all the time, mostly among big tech. I would say startups don't do this at all. Medium tech doesn't do this at all.”
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“Happened to him, and he was fighting for something really good, it was around municipal Wi Fi, and it was being blocked by the telecom companies and the Comcast and Verizons of the world were blocking this. So it's a great presentation. I would say that's a follow-up for everyone listening”
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“That's interesting. And, like, how does this all work? So, how regulatory capture, and he tells his story of like he was trying to lobby around something, and then the politician was like, can I have a meeting? He's like, oh, yeah, I'll come to you. He's like, wow, I'm on the West Coast. He's like, no, no, I'll come to you. Set up a conference room. And someone calls him like, hey, we do these like a fundraiser. It's usually like five grand a seat. And he's like, okay. And they're like, and they call him back. He gets like six people together. And then they're like, you need a bigger room. A sudden people, and then the next thing was something like we'd love all the people who are married for their partners to donate as well. And he's like, well, I don't have enough seats in the room. He's like, oh, they don't need to come to the meeting”
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“Here's a new one It's basically about regulatory capture. The name is a number of miles, like 2791. He kind of goes through a number of examples of where whether it's COVID test. This is one example. You go to a Walgreens or CVS here. There's three COVID tests brands, and each one costs like $21.99. Is a couple of years later. In Europe, they're like five bucks for two. And apparently the US blocks all the European manufacturers. Again, these assay tests are like very basic technologies, like nothing new. What's happening there? And he kind of digs into it. And oh, the regulator used to work at two of these companies, actually.”
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“I get why, yeah. The duopoly there of them and Facebook them and meta is entrenched by regulation as well. How Bill Gurley has this amazing presentation. Have you seen this”
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“Some documents late that basically said that, and it's funny because I think the people who working on AMP didn't even know this. I think they were actually like true believers in the sort of improving the web type of thing. Certainly we didn't know this. But there was something in AMP that also locked. I'm not going to get this right, but it blocked header bidding or something. Basically made it harder for other advertising networks to run on these pages in a way that benefited Google. And I think Google particularly has sharp elbows around advertising stuff.”
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“Versus all the secret things we did. No, I'm kidding. X Twitter under Elon Musk got caught every single link you click on Twitter goes through T. co or redirect service. Certain media sites and other things they were inserting like a five to ten second delay. Again, every little bit of friction, particularly on mobile, people just pressed the back button, they go back to the tweet list. So like it's incredible. And there's studies around this. Like every 100 milliseconds the page takes the low, like lower conversion, et cetera. What else has been caught? Google got caught for, they created this format called AMP, accelerated mobile pages. It was designed to compete, make mobile faster. We actually supported it wholeheartedly and they did it kind of open source and everything like that.”
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“Embrace of open source, making things super user-centric. Like they did a lot of really cool stuff there. And I think that's the playbook for all these big tech companies”
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“Microsoft is probably the best example of this. It used to be quite competitive, quite anti-competitive, obviously. And has become quite benevolent over the past decade, and one of the most amazing turnarounds and runs.”
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“The thing that is really ripe by their users. You know, what could change? What company could change this all is Apple? And the reason I talk about them a lot isn't because I don't like them. It's because I hold them in the very highest esteem. I love Apple a lot. And they're like a $3 trillion company now, but they still act like an underdog sometimes. And so I think a lot about what would a benevolent elder statesman of Apple look like if they sort of acted like, hey, we won. We have hundreds of billions of dollars. There's very little that could hurt them except hubris. Companies don't die from competition. They usually die from suicide, whether it's flying too close to the sun or trying to overoptimize the last penny from everything in ways that lock in users or aren't sort of freedom promoting. I could see that hurting them majorly. So I want to see the opposite. I want to see like a really vibrant Google, Apple, Microsoft, et cetera.”
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“Plan A is working with the networks and just saying, hey, we want to support your business model. We're not trying to change any of that. We're just trying to provide this power user tool. And there's a lot of prior art for this in like email clients. You can use Gmail with MacMail or with superhuman or any of the other things. And their business is fine. And then two, I guess, carrot stick. I don't know if we have a stick against these companies, but working with politicians, working with our user base to do petitions. I don't know, maybe I'll camp outside Apple's office, do a hunger strike at one infinity way. Or like, you know, I really believe in this stuff because it's user-centric. So what is the, what's the thing that gets them to do”
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“Not really a broad commercial thing. I'm also thinking about this for text, the multi-messaging app, they might not like. So what would it look like if it's blocked by the app stores? How can we still get it in the hands of the people”
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“Yeah, I think so. I think regulatory pressure is going to force them to open up. You've always been able to jailbreak your phone or you might sideload things using something like test flight.”
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“That becomes four bucks a month. And then I still have to process the credit card or do something else over that. So it just got very messy. So that's an example”
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“But we added a tipping feature on Tumblr, which again, we're not taking any money from it. It's like just money going direct between the people, and they made us charge a fee on it. For like a subscription. It was like a subscription thing, and they made us charge a fee. And it's like, oh, wow, now if you're charging a $6 a month subscription to your blog,”
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“We've talked about messaging. App stores are opening up now. There's been some judgments against Google around billing systems and other things. A big reason I think the world's strong proprietary the past 15 years has been mobile platforms, which are way more locked down than desktops. Everything has to go through their app store. You can't just run arbitrary software on your phone. You will be able to do more stuff like that over the next few years.”
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“It increases competition. This also means that if you're in WordPress, everyone else is going to do this too. But I think this is ultimately really good for users. And when you think of lock-in, like music services, how hard is it to move your playlist in between music services? So I want to actually build something for this.”
2023-12-29 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #713: Matt Mullenweg — The Art of Crafting a Sabbatical, Tips for Defending Against Hackers, Leveraging Open Source, Thriving in an AI World, and Tips for Life’s Darkest Hours · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Everything. And then once it's in WordPress, you can get it into anything else you want because WordPress is kind of universally supported, RF formats. We're also improving the WordPress to WordPress migration format. So we have an export, but it actually isn't great in that moving the files and the plugins and everything is still a pain in the butt. So we're going to make that really, really easy. And so my hope is by radically lowering the friction, it'll help make the web kind of force everything to be a bit more open.”
2023-12-29 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #713: Matt Mullenweg — The Art of Crafting a Sabbatical, Tips for Defending Against Hackers, Leveraging Open Source, Thriving in an AI World, and Tips for Life’s Darkest Hours · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Some of the CMS spaces like Wix don't even provide an export They really, it's like a roach motel. You'll check in, you can't check out. So what we're doing with this data liberation front is creating an open source directory. That provides two way import of all this data, so whether that's in e-commerce in another page builder, because there's all these different page builders for WordPress besides Gutenberg.”
2023-12-29 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #713: Matt Mullenweg — The Art of Crafting a Sabbatical, Tips for Defending Against Hackers, Leveraging Open Source, Thriving in an AI World, and Tips for Life’s Darkest Hours · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We just announced that just my state of the word, which is the annual speech I do is like State of the Union. It's something I'm very, very excited about. Next year we're working on, we're calling it data liberation front. Basically, one reason I think proprietary services have gotten a lot more popular is they do subtle things to lock people in. Remember we talked about the messaging earlier?”
2023-12-29 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #713: Matt Mullenweg — The Art of Crafting a Sabbatical, Tips for Defending Against Hackers, Leveraging Open Source, Thriving in an AI World, and Tips for Life’s Darkest Hours · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Amazing. I know. We'll talk about it more. It's developing. I'd say, like, I don't know what that looks like for me, if it's traditional, non-traditional.”
2023-12-29 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #713: Matt Mullenweg — The Art of Crafting a Sabbatical, Tips for Defending Against Hackers, Leveraging Open Source, Thriving in an AI World, and Tips for Life’s Darkest Hours · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT