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  1. “Yeah, I mean, one of my pithy sayings, which my writers will probably groan if they listen to this podcast, which I don't advise they do. They've heard all this before. But one of my pithy sayings is that TechCrunch needs to stand close enough to the fire to feel the heat, but not close enough to be hypnotized by the flames. And the difference between”

    2023-09-19 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · After 10 years covering startups, former TechCrunch EIC Matthew Panzarino tells us what's next · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  2. “Tech Hunch plays a really interesting role in the tech business ecosystem, particularly startup ecosystem. It is in many ways the publication of record for startups. It's just the most important thing. A lot of coverage in TechCrunch is very trade publication-y. Here's some news that is happening in our industry. And then it also has disrupt, right? Where there's a competitive element and showing up in that stage and doing well is really important. How did you balance TechCrunch's role? Because that always felt very difficult, right? kind of standalone journalism, but then also be so deeply enmeshed in the industry as one of its most important elements.”

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  3. “Was very simple, very straightforward. There wasn't some Machiavellian thing behind it besides the fact that I knew we had a lot of really great talent. I wanted to make sure that they were able to see the fruits of their labors when it came time for disrupt or even editorial story selection. Why not have these great people and use them to their fullest simple philosophy?”

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  4. “Of the TechCrunch world and all of this. And instead, A, mics are replaceable, very unique individual. B, I had all of these really great smart people that had been kind of bleeding out for TechCrunch over these last few years and in and amongst the chaos. And my job, I felt, was to give them ownership over the things that were important at TechCrunch, which obviously, you know, raising their individual profiles as part of it, but disrupt certainly giving them more on stage time, help having them pitch in on programming and own those like asks and interviews all the way to fruition, the stage went from like, hey, Mike does a lot of, you know, the bulk of the interviews and a couple other people guestar here and there to you saw all my people on stage, right? Or the most we could muster or the most that we're willing. You know, some people just don't like the stage work, which is fine. But that was the ethos, right?”

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  5. “Mike had established that we're really good, these deep ethos stuff, why hire smart people and not let them do their thing, why not lean into the expertise of these people who are strapping on their galoshes and kind of like swaying out of the swamp of crazy new ideas and companies and technology? And so I try to keep that. I try to keep a lot of the kind of anarchistic ethos around editorial choice and story selection. I think there's a lot of value in those. And then the part that I focused on unplugging and altering was exactly what you said, that like a large part of Tech Winch was built around being a vehicle for Mike, which is fine. I mean, he founded a thing. It was his thing. You know, he led it to what it was at that point and all of that. But stepping in there, I viewed it as my responsibility and my job not to replace Mike with myself and say like, okay, cool. Now I'm the new center.”

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  6. “I mean, I think it was an interesting time when I was being recruited to join there, there was definitely a lot of trepidation on my part because I'm not a drama-driven person. I don't really consider myself or consider myself an advocate of thriving in chaos. I like to help people to kind of flick.”

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  7. “One of the most interesting things about the TechCrunch story, and actually it's interlocks with the Verge story in many ways, Michael Arrington obviously started TechCrunch. It was a ferocious independent publication for a long time. Then AOL bought it, and then there was some drama, and then Errington left, and you all took over. That drama is why a bunch of us left AOL and started the Verge. It's all tied up in there. It's a decade old. We don't have to rehash it. But that. That's what happened. You took over in sort of the aftermath of all of this, right? The publication was geared around really one person or one set of attitudes. And now it is not that thing. Just tell me about that moment when you started moving it away from being about a person and more into a brand.”

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  8. “Yeah, depending on how you slice the pie, it's been about 10 years since I joined, and then a couple of months shy, 10 years since I became sort of ahead of the pack there, yeah.”

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  9. “So I joined in late 2013 and took over as co editor in January of 2014, Alexia Tzotis and I ran Tekrins together for about 18 months and then she went off to get her MBA and be a world famous VC and I stayed on as editor-in-chief. So I technically took over as EIC full ASE in 2015 but was really co-editing running it, making the same similar kinds of decisions just in tandem obviously since January of 2014.”

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  10. “Google search is changing. And then there's the looming sort of AI. So I want to talk about TechCrunch a bunch and just get a sense of where you're leaving this institution. And then I just want to talk about now that you have a bit of a remove what you think happens next.”

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  11. “So I wanted to have you on talk about that run, you know, the Verge and your run at TechCrunch have been in parallel for a long time. We've solved a bunch of the same problems in different ways, which always interesting to compare and contrast. And then talk about what you think happens now. I think we are at a generational reset in media on the internet. Audiences are different. People are doing different things. Our distribution platforms are upending themselves left and right. The company's called X now. I don't know if you've heard.”

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  12. “Can handle, right? Only you can guide them through this next era. And there was a bunch of those, there was a bunch of those. It took me a while for sure.”

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  13. “I would see you That would definitely, when you're that deep into the architecture of any system like that, extricating yourself takes time. And if you're of the mind that you want to do it right and you want to make sure that they're on good footing, et cetera, there always seems to be a thing coming that the hubris of the position tells you that only you”

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  14. “I'll just tell the audience a long time ago I tried to hire you to come work at the firch when you were at the next trip. And we had strong conversations about it. And you're like, and then we discovered that it was because you were going to go to TechCrunch. And then you became the editor of TechCrunch A tumultuous time in the post Michael Errington era TechCrunch is a fixture. It is a firmament of the startup ecosystem. TechCrunch Disrupt, I think is One of the most notable events in the entire startup calendar every year, you've really grown the place. And then I would say a couple years ago you started telling me that you were going to go. Like I would see you at events and you'd be like, I don't know, man, my clock's ticket.”

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  15. “Brand that remains indispensable to the startup community. Matt talks a lot about balancing TechCrunch's editorial responsibilities with the role it plays in that community, helping to promote up-and-coming companies and the ebb and flow of Silicon Valley's relationship with a site like TechCrunch. Of course, we also take time to talk about the future. The media business has been beholden to social platforms and search engines, but it's facing a new existential threat from generative AI and the broader changes in people's media habits. Could Google's push to blend language models with search engines turn off the business model of digital media? What happens when everyone gets their news from TikTok? It's a good time to talk to someone about this stuff, especially someone who's about to walk away. Okay, Matthew Banzerino, the former editor of TechCrunch. Here we go.”

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  16. “A look back at the past decade running immediate outlet at the center of the tech ecosystem with all the chaos that that's entailed. And oh boy, there is a lot of chaos when it comes to TechCrunch. The site was founded by Mike Errington, who minted a generation of writers that went on to become VCs. Mike eventually sold the site to AOL, which then sold itself to Verizon and then bought Yahoo and then merged AOL and Yahoo together. Then Verizon realized it shouldn't be in the media business and sold the whole deal to a private equity company called Apollo Global, which put former Tinder CEO Jim Lenzone in charge. If that sounds complicated, that's not even half of it, that part where AOL bought TechCrunch? Yep, that led somewhat directly to the founding of the Verge. Although that's a story for another time. All of that is a lot, and Matt has somehow led TechCrunch with a steady hand through all of it. You'll hear us talk about how TechCrunch has grown from what was the singular extension of Mike Errington to a much broader”

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  17. “Hello and welcome to Decoder. I'm Neil Patel, editor in chief of the Verge. And Decoder is my show about big ideas and other problems. Today I'm talking to Matthew Panzerino, the former editor-in-chief of TechCrunch. If you're a decoder listener, I probably don't have to tell you that TechCrunch is a big deal. It is one of the most important trade publications in the world of tech and startups, and its annual Disrupt Conference is where dozens of major companies have launched, and quite a few have failed. Matt's been the editor-in-chief at TechCrunch for essentially a decade now, and he and I have been both friends and competitors the entire time. We've competed for Scoops, we've traded criticisms, and we've asked each other for advice in running our publications and managing our teams. So when Matt announced last month that he's stepping down from TechCrunch and handing the editorship to strictly VC founder Connie Loisos, it felt important to have him come on decoder for what you might call an exit interview.”

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