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Melissa Butler

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first: 2020-11-23
most recent: 2020-11-23
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“Yeah, my friends ended up being my founding team because I didn't know anything. I didn't know any better. So Roscoe, who's our creative director, she moved to New York. Like she moved to New York three weeks before we launched. And, you know, some of my other friends and finance, I'm like, can you do our sales? Can you do our branding? Can you do it? Like I had a team of six people. None of us were making any money.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And then on top of that, I have to buy all the ingredients. I'm planning a launch party. I have to have pictures taken. So the startup costs for the business was probably around $30,000”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Not even just like a lot of money. I think I spent all of my money, guy. I spent my entire savings Because the thing that I didn't take into consideration was you buy it, but then you also have to get it here. So I learned a whole new skill set about like, ocean freight and like dudifs and tariffs and taxes and all that jazz. So I think buying the units and then actually getting them to my Brooklyn apartment may have cost me $13,000.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I did. And so we have Cosmo. You know, that was one of our colors and Gin and Tonic is still one of our colors, actually. But we had things like fuzzy naval and all these like crazy names. Sour Apple Martini. It was literally a green lipstick. Fuzzy knave, who I think was like a light orange, like coral lipstick. And because it had that bar tie-in, my concept was that whenever you bought a lipstick, you actually also got a recipe card for that drink.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Business name was available the lip bar. I really wanted it to just be lip bar, but lip bar wasn't available. I didn't think too much about the name if I'm going to be honest. I just took the whole concept of the soapbar and I was like, this is a really cool concept that I like. Now I'm going to apply it to this different product and boom, I have a business.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Oh, yeah, this is serious. But I think I launched with 12 shades. And the goal was to have 500 of each made. So the good thing about being your own manufacturer is you control it. So I didn't have to use all 12,000 and that certainly wasn't the goal. I was like, okay, I'm going to invest in this 12,000. Maybe the goal would be to sell all of this in a year.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I think the goal was to create a brand where black women could be the default. So we create products like you said for every single skin tone. Like it literally doesn't matter what complexion you are. We have something for you. When we first launched in 2012, I was just like, I don't want black and brown women to feel like they have to fit in to the lip bar. I want them to know that they are the lip bar and they're not the default anywhere else and my brand is going to be where that starts.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, absolutely, that it wasn't for their complexion, that they never saw themselves within the industry, that marketing didn't cater to them unless they were, you know, putting something in a brown bottle. And then they're like, hey, this is for black people. So here I am, friends with a lot of... People who are now for the first time in their lives, they have disposable income, you know, because we were all fresh out of college, basically, and making a pretty solid salary. And I was just like, there's a huge gap in terms of like what my generation wants and what's readily available on the market.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I want it to kind of look like that. I want something that doesn't look like a traditional tube because I'm building a non-traditional company. And I had been asking a lot of friends like, you know, what do you think about makeup? And oftentimes, especially for black women, what I found was they felt like beauty wasn't for them.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I did. And the inspiration behind the packaging because our packaging really stands out. It's really cool. It's intricately designed. And the inspiration was a bird cage. Like I love the old school Victorian bird cages that are just like super intricate. I don't like the idea of birds in cages. No. But I love the beautiful craftsmanship. And so I was like”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think I made it very clear that it was going to be a website. And I don't think anyone took me serious until I got a shipment of our packaging. And here I am with 30 boxes, 30 boxes. Like they're on the couch. They're on the floor. They're everywhere. And here I am just kind of waiting like, remember that company I said I was going to start? Yeah, it's in my living room and one side is all boxes and one side is all of my lap materials. And I think that's when they took me seriously.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I mean, my parameters for me were they were just crystal clear. I was like, it needs to be vegan. I don't want any animal products or any animal byproducts. And I want it to be as natural as possible without compromising the color. So I knew that I wanted to create wild and crazy colors, things that you really didn't see on the market at that time. I want it to feel good. So what's something that feels really good and creamy? And I was like, shea butter. I'm going to put shea butter on the lipstick. And that was it. Like I just started then looking for ways to source shea butter or coconut oil. And I think I tried a ton of different natural ingredients to add to, you know, that baseline formulation. But really, you know, I found out that it was working when people started saying like, hey, can I get a little bit more of that?”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“From college? Both. People hadn't known from college who were also in New York people I met at work. Anyone who would try it, honestly. I remember taking lipstick to work actually. Like, hey, I made this. Can you try it out? And people were like, no, is it going to break me out? You made it. No, I don't, does it, how do you know it works? And I'm like, I don't. That's why I want you to try it out.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Oh, absolutely. They were all my first customers. Like, every single time I made a product, like I never wanted to drink my own Kool-Aid. So I would invite people over to try on the product. Like, what do you think about this? What do you think about this?”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Oh, yeah, absolutely. And I was so committed, I started looking for suppliers in China for packaging. I started like I would come home. I would maybe get home at. You know 7 8 p.m. And then I would stay up until 3:30. Know working on the recipe, I have no idea how I function. And then I would get back up at seven and go to work.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I really wanted it to be the lipstick to cure, so I would put it in the freezer so people would come over my house and want ice and I have no ice because my freezer is filled with lipstick molds. I'm like, oh, if you want ice, you're barking up the wrong tree. I don't have ice. I have a lipstick.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Steel, so they were also very heavy So, yeah, I probably bought maybe $6,000 or $8,000 in mold and how I bought them and how I had access to them is I found a lab that was going out of business. And I think they were in Louisiana. And this guy was selling them and I found him on Craigslist, I think.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes and no. So most companies, like the huge companies, the L'Oreales of the world, they pretty much had a monopoly on the molds market. So there was, from my understanding, and this is in 2012, there were only a couple of suppliers in the US who made molds. And the biggest one was Kavala. And I was able to buy maybe four used molds. And trust me, they were not cheap. I think I've spent like a whole paycheck on them.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, so if you have too much oil, it's going to be soft and it's going to feel luxurious on your lips. But that lipstick probably is going to break. If you have too much wax, then it's not going to spread on her lips in a nice silky and creamy way. If you don't have enough pigment, then you can have this beautiful color, like the actual lipstick could be a bright pink, but when you actually put it on your lip, no color shows up. So it has to be a really delicate balance of pigment, oil, and wax.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, this is the way I've explained it. Like, all lipstick is basically the same. It has its same core ingredients. All of it has a wax. All of it has oil and all of it has a pigment. Now, depending on the waxes, depending on the oils and the other additions, that's going to impact the amount of color. That's going to impact the texture if it's soft, if it's creamy, if it's moisturizing, if it's long-lasting. Now, all of those other things are optional.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, pretty much. I probably Google how to make lipstick. And there wasn't that much out there at the time, but instead I found a lot of lip balm. And lip balm is the cousin to lipstick. I'm like, okay, well, maybe I should start here. Maybe I should start making lip balm. And maybe I should start making lip gloss. And so. I started looking for other suppliers to see if they had other things or recipes or other formula basis that I could use to start making my own product. And I just started experimenting, and I probably made, I don't know, a thousand batches of lipstick, none of them worked before I found one that was like it.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And part of it, like part of the reason why when we launched the lit bar, we had such crazy colors is because I remember it being so difficult to find purple lipstick. I want it purple so bad, but it's like only a couple brands sold purple at the time and it was hard to find and it wasn't in stock. And I'm like, why is it so difficult for me to like have this bit of self-expression?”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Knowing good and well, I was like looking for soap pigments. It was almost something that I felt like I shouldn't have been doing like I shouldn't have access to it. So when he said lipstick, I'm like. I can make lipstick. Oh, I'm done with this soap business.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, yeah, it takes a little work. It takes some time. And he's like, wait, slow down, slow down. Do you want lip gloss pigments or do you want soap pigment? And I was like, lipstick. I knew nothing about lipstick, but I couldn't believe that I could buy lipstick pigments and that was it for me”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Nope, it didn't exist, and the concept was that all of the soaps would be named after drinks. So I have a margarita bar that was like lemon and lime basically with sea salt on top. So I had all these really fun ideas and all these grand plans and ultimately one day I was calling a supplier. And I was looking for, you know, more pigments for my soaps because I was trying to get really funky and fancy with my color. Yeah, well, ombre colors.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I'm like, maybe I should start a soap business Like, this is it. This is my way out. I'm going to create a company. It's going to be called the Soapbar. I love it. Very cool. Very creative.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Gradient with the soap bar, like creating ombre soap bar. It's like I spent so much time making soap and honestly so much money.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And it can burn you. Like borax. Yes. Yes. And you had to handle it very carefully. And then soap goes through a curing process. So it could take three months for your soap to cure, or you can put it in the oven to cure that soap. Wow. And then I came with this idea because I was really getting into like the creative component of making the soap. So I was thinking like, okay, well, what are all the different flavors that I can make? Like I was making a strawberry bar and I put like dried strawberry in it. And I was like, I don't think that's really clean or sanitary because also I'm not a chemist and I don't really know what I'm doing. And so when I'm coming up with these outlandish ideas, I don't have anyone to say like, hey, that's actually not good for pH balance or this is going to cause bacteria and mold to build. So I'm trying all these different soap recipes and I'm trying to make it look all cool and have a”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Basically, in a pot with a Pyrex, like a double boiler. Oh, right, okay, yeah. You could make soap with glycerin, which was more moisturizing. But I didn't think that it cleansed you as well. So the old fashioned way of making soap, and this is the way that I typically made them, was with lye, which is dangerous.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, there were tons of forums. I took a soap making class. I'm buying all sorts of ingredients. I'm on YouTube learning how to make soap. I'm like reading books on soap making. Like I'm literally going in. It's insane.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So I'm buying these expensive soaps. And as a hobby, because also I'm now listening to my mom like, wow, I am spending a lot of money on soap. And I'm like, well, if this soap is so great because it's natural and it's handmade, then why can't I make it? So I first started making soap for my own personal use.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah. So I had gotten really into this soap that was sold at Whole Foods. It was so expensive. My mom thought that I was crazy because I tried to call her like, mom, I found this soap. It was so cool. And she's like, what is it? I'm like, well, first of all, it's expensive. It's like $6 a bar. And she's like, six dollars soap. I grew up where my mom would buy like, you know, the six pack or eight pack of like dove or dial. And that whole thing was $6. She's like, you're buying one bar of soap for $6. She's like, I don't want to know about it.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Like, so every day I had to answer for the entire black race. And it was exhausting. Oh, working at Barclays was exhausting.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But also like, I didn't do all that. I didn't go to college and get these student loans and go to China for six months to be in a career that I hate. And then from what you're telling me isn't necessarily even a career path that's desirable anymore. So I was disheartened if I'm going to be honest. It was mostly white men. And, you know, they would ask me questions about my hair because as a black woman, like one of your superpowers is that you get to change your hair all the time and do whatever you want to do. And I was constantly like asked about either my hair or my clothes or if something happened in the media with a black person. And this is oftentimes the plight of a black person working in corporate America. You're never able to be an individual.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I was like, wait, what? I didn't know what that really meant. I didn't know what a good bonus was, what a bad bonus was. I just knew that he was unhappy. And a lot of my team members were unhappy. So I think very quickly, like I learned that I wasn't going to learn that much. But then also that if I stayed there, that I would be in this environment where no one likes their job. And like from my perspective, I'm like, hell, I just got all these students. I had racked up like $50,000.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I thought, and I still think that New York is the most magical city on the planet. I was awestruck by all the big buildings. And I remember my first time like being in like the financial district or, you know, our first office that I worked in was in Jersey City and just like being like a banker girl. I was like, whoa, this is crazy. And I started very quickly meeting other people who like worked at JP Morgan Chase or worked at Goldman Sachs. And it was like a whole world. But I remember, you know, my first week being really excited and like expressing that I wanted to learn and like I wanted to learn as much as possible and I wanted to be good. And like one of my managers was like get over it, kid. They give shit bonuses.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It was life changing. Oh my God, it was life changing. Like, I understood how big and small the world was. I understood how a woman from Detroit could have such synergy and connection with a woman from Iceland. Like one of my really good friends who I met there, she was from Iceland. And like she was my best friend when I was in the program sort of thing. And we would just talk about a lot of the same things, even though we had a completely different life. And I think for the first time in my life, I understood that we were all human and it wasn't just black, white, Asian. It was just humans.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I had just been really fascinated with China and this idea that China was about to be the next superpower. And I was like, that would make me valuable if I wanted to learn about business. You know, if I'm this business girl, I should go to China and learn a little bit about their business. But it was a complete culture shock. I mean, I think I was sharing that literally my entire life was black. Like I came from Black Detroit, you know, I went to a black all black high school in Detroit. I went to a black college and now here I am, the only black woman, and I'm in the middle of Beijing. It was so odd. And I think they were also shocked, you know. People would come up to me and touch my skin and everyone automatically assumed that I was, you know, from an African country.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So literally, I switched my concentration and my focus to business finance. And that's where I stayed. And I was like, okay, well, if I'm going to do this finance thing, I'm going to go work on Wall Street because, you know, now I can be the wolf of Wall Street. Again, being influenced by pop culture. So I didn't know anything about it. Like, again, my mom was a crane operator and I had a cousin who was an entrepreneur, but I didn't know that there were so many different paths to make money.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Having independence and being given this room to be a free thinker and come up with the answer for yourself, because I'll never forget it was probably Christmas Eve and he allowed me to count all of the money that we made that day. And it was the most money I had ever seen. It was insane. And I think I counted maybe like $12,000. And I was just like, I'm not my guy. He's rich. Like, I thought. I was like, whoa, I couldn't believe that, number one, he let me count the money. And then number two, that we had made that much money that day. And my entire goal for going to college wasn't necessarily because I wanted to get a higher education. I didn't really care about it that much. But I went to college because I was like, this is how I can make money.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah. And they were both two really great HBCUs, and they both had really good business programs. Like, I knew that I wanted to get into business because in high school, I used to work at my cousin's clothing shop. So my cousin is my first exposure to entrepreneurship. Like he had a store in the mall, and he taught me everything about margin and pricing your product and hiring people. And he also gave me a lot of independence. And now that I say that, I think that was the theme of my childhood.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah. And I was like, well, if I'm going to go to college, I'm going to go away. And most of my really good friends actually stayed in Michigan. But I knew that I wanted to go to an HBCU. That was a given. I knew that I wanted to be around black people. And so I didn't want to go to what we call a PWI, which is a predominantly white institution. I knew that I didn't want to go to Michigan State or Michigan because I wanted to. Have some pride and really have the black experience.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't. I don't think that I thought about, of course, I thought about, you know, making money. And girls are taught that we should build fairy tales in our minds. I remember as early as maybe eight years old thinking like, oh, when I'm 24, I'm going to get married. I'm going to have children and I'm going to be rich. That was probably the fairy tale that I told myself. Not knowing what any of that meant. So I never thought that I needed to leave Detroit. Even with me living in a not so nice neighborhood, I didn't think that there was anything wrong with it.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, it's right near downtown. And it's essentially a college prep school. And it was probably 98% Black students. Now it's a little bit more diverse because the city of Detroit is changing. So right now there's a lot more investment in the city, whereas, you know, 15 years ago, no one was downtown Detroit. So when I went to Cass Tech, it was surrounded by people who were either homeless or drug addicts. So it's like this amazing school that's in the midst of all the blight. So Detroit went through a really tough time and it hasn't been until maybe the last, you know, 10 years that it's experienced this renaissance.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Guy, my neighborhood was horrible, actually. And I'm from one of the most dangerous neighborhoods in Detroit, but I never felt unsafe. And even though we didn't have a lot, I never needed anything. So like in high school, for instance, I was one of the quote-unquote cool girls who had like the designer clothes, but that was really my mom doing her best to provide for us what she felt like would satisfy us. And now when I talked to her, I remember maybe a year ago, I was like, mom, we were living way beyond our means. And she's like, yeah, but I did it for you. Yeah. And I'm like, that was irresponsible. And we kind of laugh about it now. But she was like, I just wanted you to be happy and I wanted to be able to provide for you the life that That I felt like you deserved”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, my mom wasn't strict at all. Like, my mom was working. She was working all the time. I could have been a very wild kid, but I wasn't. Like, I didn't sneak boys into the house. Like I remember growing up and like, you know, those curious teenage years where you may be interested in like drinking or maybe you want to smoke pot for the first time or even like sex. Like I wasn't interested in any of it. And I've never been a person to study. I would never say that I was a good student, but I always got good grades.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That she had to live life for her and that no one was coming to save her. So she taught us very early that we had to save ourselves. So it was like she directionally ingrained this pathway for both me and my sister.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Steel boots. Yeah, definitely steel toe boots that I would sometimes put on, and they were heavy as hell that I would put on and like kind of wobble around the house with. And so she would go to work at 11 p.m. and come home in the morning. And so I used to look at it as a disadvantage that I was raised in a one-parent household because, you know, everyone needs their dad and everyone needs both parents. You need that nature and that nurturing. You need that protector and that provider. You need your mom to be soft or at least that's what I used to think. And as I've gotten older, I realized that it's probably one of my biggest advantages because watching my mom do something and working an industry that is so male dominated. I think it was only her and her best friend. They were the only two women in that entire steel factory. She saw.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“My mom was a crane operator, which is really crazy to say right now because I'm 34 and I've never ever met anyone else that was a crane operator. But basically she worked at a steel factory, you know, Detroit is automotive. So she was at a steel company that created steel and parts for the automotive industry.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“When people came to my house, like it was literally a lab. I definitely didn't have an apartment. You know, I ruined stoves. I've lost security deposits. People would come over my house and want ice and I have no ice because my freezer is filled with lipstick molds. I'm like, oh, if you want ice, you're barking up the wrong tree. I don't have ice. I have lipstick.”
2020-11-23 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · The Lip Bar: Melissa Butler · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT