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Meredith Artley

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first: 2019-01-14
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“And we kind of like trade off with each other like me and the rest of the leadership team. And it's good. We have each other's backs.”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But I kind of prioritize like quiet time and going to bed early and getting some sleep. And if people need me because something big happens, like I'm there.”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, yeah. So I don't know why things have sped up so much. It is not all politics, you know? But they really have. And sometimes it's really exhilarating. And sometimes you're like, I need a break. And so for me, it means right now my outside interests are pretty limited. I'll get there one day. Like I'll have some rich, creative life.”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah. I mean, we thought, you know, the midterms we were so focused on like, you know, doing a good job covering the midterms. And, you know, all the complexities of doing that just because of the story of the midterms and then add on like the complexity of like all of CNN's digital platforms and all these journalists around the world. And we did it and it went really well. And they were like, yay, we can take a break.”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know, it helps to have a global team of journalists, right? So we all kind of like have each other's backs. There are moments where someone might be like. Kind of last minute, like I need to step out of this one I'm good. I need to step away from this mass shooting coverage for a little while. That's what I'm saying. One thing after another.”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, he made some kind of, you know, it was a good statement about how he doesn't feel like it's an appropriate place to be. Oh, wow. Yeah.”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think the brands matter so much. The innovation needs to continue. Oh, by the way, did you hear who got off Facebook today? Walt Musberg.”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't know. I'm asking everyone, I'm not asking this out in the middle of the darkness. I literally don't know what's next because it seems like Facebook and the others are declining in some way. Do you know what I mean? Like it's just not the way it's exhausting. And I just don't know how people are. Maybe you're right. It goes back to they'll come to the individual sites that are the strongest and they will go back to their old practices. I don't know.”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Business, right? That's the key thing. That's the pivot from let's just go on all these social platforms and see how it happens, see how it works.”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Think so. I think it just has to get more and more convenient, right? I mean, we see now, you can see it in whether it's network television or cable television, like the numbers of people sitting down to watch TV is in that traditional model is declining, but then it kind of raises this existential question about what do we mean by when we mean TV? What do we mean when we're talking about video? How can we make it as easy as possible to get news that's relevant to people wherever they are and whatever device they're on? In a way that supports”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Showing how we do it. I mean, you know, you're good at this. You kind of are like showing your process on the podcast all the time. Yeah. And you don't always see that”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Dial up the efforts to be transparent about when we get things wrong or when we change things. Why have we done that? I think there's so much of the journalistic process”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think one of the things we will see in 2019, if thinking about you asked where this is going, I know one of the things that is really important for me foreseen in digital, and I think everybody else at CNN would agree with me on this, is that in 2019 we go kind of beyond this. Marketing campaigns of facts first and democracy dies in darkness and all of that, that's great, that's really good stuff we need to go further now. We need to actually do better about showing our work, showing who we are as journalists.”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“This dark moment that we're into some degree where there's been this decaying of trust on a large scale. And that's when you get these, you know, these people who just are like none of this has worked for me and I don't care if the system burns down. Right. Right. And that's.”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“In the world About kind of what's happening at this moment. And one of the things that I think is kind of the leading theory, and it's been said before, is this idea that there's this complete lack of trust in institutions, in those institutions include, you know, the news media, media writ large, governments, businesses, that this whole infrastructure of these institutions”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think we're in a moment in time. I think it's going to abate. I think we'll be, I don't know how long this is going to last. I don't think it's going to be over in two to three months. I think we're going to have to live with this for a little while. But I think it's just a moment. I mean, again, like looking through all the cycles of history after having experience and some knowledge of how these things can go, you know, you get old enough and you can think about those things. I think where you're definitely in a moment and it will pass. But it's a hard moment. I mean, I'm doing this work. You know, I've been working on this report that's going to come out at the start of the year that Knight Foundation and the Aspen Institute have this group of people we're working on trust and media and democracy and kind of exploring that topic. And there's been a lot of studies done and conversations we've had with smart people around the nation.”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, and do you, where do you imagine the news business going with this attacks that go on continually across the globe and obviously Maria and others were on the cover of Time magazine, which was kind of nice to see? How do you think about the news business when amid that threat when it's continuing? Do you see it continuing or do you think it will people will be like, that's enough, we value the press This is just a political attack meant to disable us essentially.”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Threats that my family is calling me crying, wondering if I'm okay. Right. So, yeah, those things were, those things were tough this year. But I think at the end of it, it kind of underlines”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's a valued profession. It's a profession that serves a public good and has gained public trust. I didn't think I was getting into it to be called the enemy of the people by the president of the United States and that they would result in”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“People processed it differently. There were a lot of people who were genuinely in understandably freaked out by it. Like, I didn't know this is what I was getting into. I thought I was getting into journalism because”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And you have to leave. And so, you know, there's a very wide, we've got a very diverse mix of staff in every single sense of the word.”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Exactly. And she said it really well that this is in some ways the toughest time to be a journalist and in some ways it's the most like. Important and invigorating time to do it. And I think that's true and well said. The thing about the bomb threats was it's one thing if you've worked in journalism for a while and worked in bureaus or been out in the field, or certainly if you're a war correspondent or anything like that, it's certain kinds of journalists get used to living with these threats and they deal with it. And danger. And dangers, and they deal with it in all kinds of ways, right? And that's tough. It's another thing if you are relatively new at CNN, like, you know, it's one of your first or second jobs and you're in the newsroom and there's a threat, right?”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes. Not that long ago. She's amazing. She Is it Rappler in the Philippines who didn't listen? She's a journalist who was undergoing a great deal of stress from the murderous regime who runs the Philippines.”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I want to finish up talking about how Eudians have backrupt of anti-news news. You all work for an organization that's been attacked. It's been pipe bombs, everything else with the whole organization, not just CNN.com, but the entire organization. You know, you've all been the focus of this idea of where sort of attacks on the news and fake news. What is that like working in that environment now?”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“A social network or a quick take or put something in a newsletter or a video, and that might grow into Beautiful, you know, interactive narrative series that we can do that will go across basically everything CNN does, including TV. So there's a lot of that work and exploration that's just kind of happening across all of CNN.”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, you know, there's so many different ways to use images still and moving with text, with motion graphics, with whatever it might be to tell a story in a super compelling way. That's the fun part about being a journalist these days there's so many different, like you can be just an expert in a particular format. You can be like, I know vertical video. I know this about mobile. I know this about AR or VR whatever it might be. There's just, it's gotten so In terms of like the different ways to tell a story. So the challenge is, and this is really the fun piece, is, okay, we have a story to tell. How many different ways shall we tell this story? What is the best way to tell it, right? There might be something really quick right now that we can do on.”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think it's changed. I think it's changed. It's given us a broader menu, right? So it's not like the TV package is the end all be-all for video”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, when you talk about news gathering, that brings to mind thousands of journalists who are the way that they literally go out and get and capture the news has completely changed. I guess it's happened to print as well. Like the infrastructure is gone from these massive pieces of equipment and expensive and only a few people know how to operate them to like.”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, it's a good technology. It's not print, but it's something you print it out with text. Text on a screen or whatever seems to work really well. Video works really well, audio obviously works really well for us. And so it just, there's not, it's always sort of like there's nothing new under the sun, but I do try to think where is news going? How does news gathering? Well, obviously new gathering changes over time, you know, how people bring stories to people and how quickly they do is one thing. The other part is how much, you know, if I was running a huge organization like yours, I wouldn't even know what to think of where it's going. like how it's going or where it's coming from or how people gather news or how you do things but it's certainly not in the way they've done in the past”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right. There was a project recently about I'm going to feel bad that I can't remember who did it. Maybe the Guardian published it, but like what it's like to be in a detention cell, right? Oh, yeah, yeah, all kinds of stuff. Yeah, yeah.”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“She's smiling at me. We've done some good, we've done some fun VR stuff It seems like it's. I mean, what do you think about it? I think it's such a high bar for someone to do all this stuff.”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And then now we're kind of playing with them in some corners in some ways. But that's how I think it should go, right? Like let's, you know, we're open to partnering with platforms, with companies that want to play. What about like...”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It turned out that there were a lot of things that we weren't getting in terms of information about our audiences, and I think the revenue deal, I didn't drive that piece of it, but I think it wasn't as promising as we thought it was going to be. And so we were like, we're going to take a pause, like we're out”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Moderately important, like that, you know, the Facebook watch show is a highlight. They've been problematic in so many other ways, just again in the news cycle. We did have a deal with Snapchat. We had our own show on that. That was fine. But then”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Probably not. I mean, you know, I mean, we might experimented on Facebook for ages without getting Facebook. Without getting paid. And I think the experiments are good in that we learn something. We learn something about, you know, maybe it's vertical video, we learn something about. Audience engagement on a certain topic on that platform. But yeah, I mean, Facebook Watch, like that's it. I mean, that's Anderson Cooper. That's our star talent We're not going to just do that for free. No, not at all. So, yeah, so Facebook, you know, they're.”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Fun and that's great. We do some great things. Like, by the way, like, there's an incredible social team and other people around CNN that kind of lead the strategy of what we're doing in these places. And it's good. Like we learn a lot. Is it the thing that's like we're going to stake our future on? Absolutely not, you know? So yeah, Twitter is important to us. It's important to us for breaking news. There's a little bit, like there's some monetization that's happening there, a little bit with Twitter. Facebook, yes, we have the Facebook watch thing we do with Anderson and others. That show has been a hit and that's been great. And that was a deal. We got money for that. They paid you.”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's Chinatown, Jake. You know, it's, yes, like we had like CNN BRK has been like the number one. It's like this monster account that's been around forever that's essentially an alerting service of like what we know when we know it.”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think there was so much this since the model for news has been in such a Tumultuous state ever since Forever, I mean, for a long time, I think there was just this hope of like, ah, this is it. This is where I can get those audiences. Let me be where they are And then what? It becomes this volatile thing where people were spinning up editorial and business strategies.”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They're not journalists. And we saw this with Facebook In and Out. You could talk about this for a long time, and I know you have. But this idea of they're not, they don't even, you can't even get them to say that they're a media company. So they're not thinking about kind of. What's appropriate, what's not appropriate, upholding some basic standards of democracy or other free governing principles elsewhere in the world. It's just a different”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I would the umbrella on that is we look at everything we're doing there as something that is nice to have and that we do by choice and that we don't put our eggs in the basket of any of They don't really care about us. They're not like it's not our business model and they don't share the values that we have. So just in general, it's not.”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We're back with Meredith Artley. She's the editor in chief of CNN.com and the senior vice president of CNN Digital Worldwide. One of the things we're talking about is you do still have these relationships with social networks. Like you have big ones. Describe which ones you have now and how you look at them because everybody was striking these big instant publishing deals or different things with either Google or Facebook, typically Google or Facebook. That's pretty much the two ways and Twitter, I guess. Talk about each of them right now, how you look at them. How do you look at them as entities?”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“All right, we're here with Meredith Artley. She's the editor in chief of CNN.com. She's the senior vice president of CNN Digital Worldwide. We get back. I want to talk a little bit more about the social networks and how big news sites are thinking of them going forward.”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Listen, growth is good, right? There's a pressure to continue to grow the audience and do good work that that audience wants and that grows the business, all of that stuff. But I don't think the path to that is. More caffeinated, constant publishing, you know, I think it's just smarter, high quality work that'll break through.”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“A year from now What's going to matter is Right. Right, except that that's if you're the leader and this is how you grow, is there a pressure from within SANN to do that, like get bigger? Because the more you do, I assume the more people come to your site, or that's not true.”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's not gonna matter an hour from now, a day from now, a year from now, if we were like number one or number two. What's gonna matter is that we did our jobs well and we got it right.”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Just talk to people and tell them it's better to be right than it is to be first, which, you know, in some cases is about like the fear of getting something wrong if we push it out there too early. In other cases, it's these days, it's the fear of not doing our jobs as well as we can as journalists if we're just pushing things out there so early. People want to know CNN's take on things if you are A consumer of news. At some point, you will be. I want to know what CNN has to say on it. So at some point, while there's still this like, You know, mentality of like, let's get it out, let's get it out. There's also this recognition in this fast Twitch cycle, as you say, that hold on, everything's moving really fast.”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That Trump or the White House says it means, let's just take a breath, take a beat. Is this newsworthy? If so, why? Let's get that first person out.”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Maybe we used to a little bit. I mean, listen, we like to be early or first on things, that is true. But I think these days we've shifted into that doesn't mean just repeating everything.”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Interesting, it's something I just did an interview with Andrew Mitchell on a podcast with her and Chuck Tot and Hallie Jackson, and she had the same thing is that this is an NBC news that she's the head of her show and she's like, I don't want to hear his latest. Don't even tell me his latest tweets because I don't want to lead with it or I don't want that to be the story. And what's really interesting, and she said, every time I ignore it, he says something that actually is pertinent because he is president. Like there are certain tweets or whatever utterances that are pertinent. And there's others that aren't. And it's really hard in this cycle of fast twitch to immediately go to the fast twitch.”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Precisely. So that's not what you want to do. You want to just pause for a second. There are some moments where something is said, it could be Trump, it could be another story, like we should say what we know when we know it, and then. Publish and then layer on the context as we learn.”
2019-01-14 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: CNN.com editor in chief Meredith Artley · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT