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Michael Avenatti

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first: 2018-04-30
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“I don't know, David. I think it's going to end one of two ways. And I've been saying this consistently from the get go even before I filed the case. I told people close to me because I thought long and hard before I filed this case because I understood the ramifications that it could have on me personally. It's going to either end Incredibly well beyond my expectations, or it's going to end very, very badly where you're going to need DNA evidence. It's going to be like a light plane crash. One of the two. That's what I think is going to”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think so. Absolutely. I think so. I think that depending on how things go. But again, I want to hedge a little bit because A lot of this can be politicized. We don't know what ultimately prosecutors will decide to do or not do. And they may be a little hesitant to pursue certain things against a sitting president. They may be precluded from doing so. A lot of things can happen, but I do not think he will serve out his first term. Now, he may couch it in a different, you know, he may resign for health reasons or family reasons. Do you think he'll”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't think the story is going to end well for Donald Trump. I mean, I've said it before. I'm going to say it again. I do not think he serves out his term. Now, I think there's something.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Know it's interesting. I mean, I don't think this, I think the story is going to end very well for Stormy Daniels. I think there's no question about that. I think the story is not going to end well for Michael Cohen at all ultimately.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, no, she had a lot of these dates booked for months. I mean, these things are booked months in advance, and she's adamant that she needs to fulfill a lot of these dates that were on the calendar months ago, long before March when we filed the case. She's very concerned about keeping her commitments to these clubs. It's just the way she's built.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I don't think I've pointed that out. I mean, I think others have tried to make a lot out of that, but I got to tell you, David, I mean, you know, her security costs are through the roof at this point. I mean, there's a lot of crazy, I mean, you know this. There's a lot of crazy people out there. And, you know, we take...”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, we've got, yeah, we've gotten a ton of leads. Absolutely. And I mean, we're working on those leads and we're spending a lot of time working on those leads. But, you know, look, are we using the media to our advantage in the connection with this case? Absolutely. This isn't your average case. This case has a number of different aspects to it, and I think we're playing each of them pretty well.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, look, I mean, I don't think we're engaged in tie-up tabloid type reveals or journalism. I mean, I just don't. I mean, the fact of the matter is there's a significant amount of interest in this case. And if you're going to release a sketch and you actually want something to come with a sketch, then you release it in a very high profile manner on a show that generates millions of people.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, I don't think ultimately she wants to sell her story. I mean, she might, but I'll tell you exactly what she wants. You asked me what she wants. She wants to be out from underneath the NDA. She can speak freely, and they can speak freely. They can say whatever they want to say. And they have a much bigger audience than she does, quite honestly. The president has the biggest audience in the world. So she wants to be out from underneath the NDA. She wants Michael Cohen to admit that his prior statements regarding her not being trustworthy or suggesting she's not telling the truth are completely bogus that in fact she is telling the truth. She wants the president now to admit that his statements of about a week or two ago relating to the fact that the sketch was a con and that the guy had the sketch, that the guy that threatened her never happened, she's going to want that to be.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“She wants. Tell you exactly what she wants. First of all, she wants the NDA ruled null and void. She's prepared to give the $130,000 bag she does not want to operate under the restrictions of the NDA. She doesn't want to be threatened by Mr. Trump or Mr. Cohen that they're going to take.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, maybe. I didn't even get up from the table. I think he was expecting me to get up from the table. I wasn't about to get up from the table. I was busy doing other things.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, no, he didn't. He didn't know what to do after we met. He was trying to figure out whether he should stay or go. I was distracted by something else. And it was rather awkward.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, we bumped into each other and I was sitting in a restaurant and he actually came over to me and tapped me on the shoulder and introduced himself. It was a rather awkward moment.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't know how long it's going to take, but I said, I think about a week ago that I thought it was going to be within 90 days that Michael Cohen was going to be indicted. You know, I'm not stupid, at least not most of the time. I think I gave myself a considerable amount of runway on that. It wouldn't have surprised me if it happened a lot sooner than that. There may be a subsequent what's called a superseding indictment where they add additional charges as it relates to information to come out of those raids. Michael Cohen's in a lot of trouble and there's no question in my mind that he's going to roll over the president.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“News is I was in federal court the other day and I counted I think they seized 16 cell phones from Michael Cohen's hotel office and residence 16 cell phones including two blackberries I mean it's been a long time since I had a blackberry yeah so you know it appears that this guy is is like an evidence hoarder Which is an absolute wet dream for federal prosecutors and me in that he saved all this information. He's probably got all these cell phones that he saved. It's going to have all the text messages, all the emails. Now we hear about potential audio recordings that he saved. I mean, this could be a treasure trove of information. There's nothing better than an audio recording other than a video recording.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think it's very clear. I mean, the president is being told by his closest advisors, and you don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure this out, that Michael Cohen's in serious trouble. I've been saying this for weeks, and I'm no rocket scientist, and that he's ultimately going to trade up and trade information on whoever he has that's above him. And there's only really one guy. And that's the president. And he's going to sing like a canary. He's going to flip. He's going to roll over whatever term you want to use. There's no question he knows where a lot of bodies are buried. He has a lot of information about a lot of shady shit. There's no question about that.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't want to get into the details of what I'm going to ask the president or not ask the president about, but I think that this is certainly going to be an area that ultimately we're going to get to the bottom of, whether it be the president or somebody else.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, if somebody came to me and said, look, I'm going to represent some ex-girlfriend of yours that you got pregnant that had an abortion, by the way, for the record, there is no such person. But if somebody did that, and who would I reach out to? I'd reach out to one of my closest advisors, one of my closest attorneys. I want to reach out to some guy in New York that I never had any involvement with.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Prior to this alleged transaction, whereby it was agreed that the $1.6 million was going to be paid. Michael Cohen had zero involvement. Mr Brody, who is supposedly a sophisticated businessman who's a billionaire. Now. The sophisticated guys that I know with a lot of money have their own legal counsel and their own advisors. They generally don't trust something of this sensitive nature, of this magnitude in their lives, to an attorney out of New York when they live in California that they've never met before and never had any prior representation. and no involvement with okay so i'll give you that fact”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, unfortunately, I can't get into that right now, but I will tell you that there is considerable reason. Here's what I will tell you, okay?”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, no, I mean, I'm going to push back a little bit on this, David. I mean, here's what I'm going to say, there's considerable reason to believe that it was not Mr. Brody. What”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You can be undisciplined in politics. You may be able to get away with lying to the American people. You don't want to be undisciplined in litigation. That doesn't end well.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I know he's not going to hold up. I mean, if the Secret Service would allow it, we'd send a car for him every morning to go to Fox Unfortunate.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I want to be clear about this. I mean, we're determined. My clients determined I'm determined to get to the truth of exactly what happened here. The whole truth and nothing but the truth. All the facts and all the evidence on both sides. And then we're going to let the American people decide for themselves whether they've been lied to, whether there's been a cover-up, and really what's going on here. I think a deposition of the president is going to be necessary for that. I'm confident that at some point we're going to get a chance to depose the president. And I will tell you that I do not think the president will hold up well under cross-examination for me in a deposition. I just don't. In fact, based on his Fox and friends, Recent interview last president.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Correct. And, you know, the California AG also may have jurisdiction over certain aspects of this. I don't want to get into too many details, but the California AG may also have a shot at this. Look, I cannot believe that federal prosecutors, in fact, I know federal prosecutors are not going to charge him with anything and everything they could possibly charge him with. I think they're going to leave windows open for potential state prosecution of Michael Cohen. And the president's not going to be able to do anything about that.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, because a president's pardon power only extends to federal crimes. It's not going to protect somebody from potential conviction for state crimes. And the problem, David, is the sequencing of this. Normally, someone is charged and they're convicted, and then the president pardons them, but no one really knew along the way that the president was going to pardon them. So they made decisions relating to charging decisions and how they went about the case in one way. Well, now everybody in their brother knows that the president may pardon Cohen.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Meaning money laundry is a very long term, but Relating to the transfer of the money for the payment, whether it be among accounts that Michael Cohen had, you know, I think he also likely committed bank fraud. I think he lied to the bank when he opened up the account from which to send the $130,000. In fact, there's no question in my mind that he lied to the bank. He could be charged with bank fraud. As you know, federal prosecutors have a lot of charging discretion. They can bring things or not bring things, which, by the way, is one of the reasons why a pardon may not work in this situation, but we can get to that later maybe.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I do. I think ultimately Michael Cohen will be indicted for committing crimes in connection with campaign finance law as it relates to the $130,000 and the timing of that payment and specific acts carried out with an eye towards not having to report that payment. And I think there may ultimately be money laundering charges that are brought in connection with that $130,000 payment. Absolutely, I believe.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh, I think there's no question that crimes were committed. I think that Michael Cohen is going to be indicted. You know, I said 90 days.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's about lying to the American people and covering it up. I mean, you know, the cover up is always worse than the crime. And this case is all about the cover-up. It's about what Michael Cohen did. It's about what the president knew and when he knew it and what he did to cover it up in connection with Michael Cohen, in connection with this agreement and the $130,000. And anybody that actually believes that Michael Cohen took out a home equity loan to pay $130,000 to a porn star that he thought was lying on behalf of a billionaire in the final two weeks of the campaign and never told the billionaire, never sought reimbursement, but didn't even tell the billionaire. I mean, if I did, first of all, I would never do this. It's so ludicrous, but let's assume that I did. I would certainly tell the guy, hey, you know what? I spotted you 130. I took care of that little porn star incident. You know, just so you know, you owe me. Just, you know, just put that shit on the board.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“This isn't, David, it's not about the sex. It's not about how many times they had sex or how they had sex or how long the sex lasts or any of the details of the sex, in my opinion. It's not about that.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, correct. I mean, I think, look, I think the guy's a thug. I think he uses threats of intimidation. And I've seen a lot of attorneys like this over my career. And any guy that has to tell you how tough he is all the time is not a tough guy. It's just that simple, okay? And any guy that refers to himself as Ray Donovan is a joke, in my opinion. And so, you know, the issue here, David, is that the president of the United States, a guy that should have known better, trusted a guy that wasn't very smart and wasn't very tough with some of his innermost secrets. And those chickens are now going to come home to roost. I mean, nothing lasts forever. These things only sooner or later things catch up to people. And you know that. You've seen it in your lifetime and I've seen it in my lifetime. And I firmly believe that this is the Achilles heel to the present.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Look, let me say this. I think from everything I've heard, I think Michael Cohen is a devoted father and I respect him enormously for that. So we'll leave that at that. I think he is a beyond terrible lawyer. There's no question about that.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Still doing her work, but nobody is talking about any relationship that she had with Donald Trump or anything of that nature. And so, you know, out of the blue, Michael Cohen decides to run his mouth and disclose details about this agreement. And up until, in fact, late February, she's of the belief that this agreement has been signed by... Donald Trump, and it's all executed, and it's all above board, et cetera. Up until that time.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So this is early on in February. There is no tour. There is no attention. There's nothing. She's just living her life with her little girl and her husband. Still doing her work.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right, but he turned her world upside down by making those public statements. And so all of a sudden, you know, she's living outside of Dallas, not exactly a hotbed of left-wing activism in a very conservative place. And now all of a sudden, all of this attention is brought to her, which she did not ask for, did not seek out, did not make any statements to cause it to come. This is in February. You got to understand.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, no, yeah, let me clarify a couple things. So the Wall Street Journal runs this piece. I think it was in February of this year. And instead of not commenting out commenting on it or just letting it be, and who knows, maybe they don't even run the piece, Michael Cohen responds to the Wall Street Journal and comes out and makes some statements that he was precluded from making.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In this case, everything is a double done. And I think that she took exception to the conduct, especially of Michael Cohen and some of them.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I want to be careful about how I answer this because I don't want to get into communication. I want you to be careful. No, I know you don't, but I got to be careful because that's my job. No, but here's what I will say, okay? I mean, I think she's been pretty clear that one of the things that she's been concerned about is that the entire truth be laid bare for people to hear. Everything's a double.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I met her and she blew every conception that I had, misconception that I had out of the water. I mean, everything that I came to that meeting with was blown out of that meeting in the first 15 to 20 minutes. I mean, this is an incredibly intelligent woman, one of the most self-aware people I've ever met in my life forget about women, men, clients, regardless, incredibly self-aware. Very, very perceptive. She's just a real human being. And in today's society, that's unusual.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And she, well, I had read about it at that time. And it was public. And I knew that she was an adult film star. And I haven't represented any adult film stars. That's just not what I do. I mean, I've had a real legal career with real cases of significant magnitude. And I've got a reputation that I built over the years, and I was skeptical about lending that reputation to somebody in the industry, quite honestly.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I had a healthy dose, David, of skepticism relating to Stormy Daniels when I first heard about this. This was not something, well, because, I mean, I had heard about the Make America horny again tour. I hadn't heard about that.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, unfortunately, I'm precluded from getting into details about how I came to represent her. But suffice it to say that she found me. I didn't seek her out. No, I did not seek her out, not in the least bit. And nor did some third party bring her to me, which I think some people have speculated on. And, you know, I had my”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Forward into life, and certainly well, like, you know, you need to be able to close, you need to be able to close out things that are around you. And, you know, really concentrate on the task at hand. Otherwise, bad things happen. You know, you need to drive a race corner by corner. It's fine to be looking ahead, but you also have to be concentrating on what's immediately in front of you.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, 24 hours of Lamont, 24 hours of Daytona, 12 hours of Spring. And, you know, again, that's my passion. But there's a lot of lessons from racing that you can carry.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I started racing go-karts when I was younger, and then ultimately graduated and started racing some open wheel cars and ultimately got into 24 hours of life.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, you know what? I I like living life, David. You know, there's no dress rehearsals in life, right? So, I mean, if you have a shot, you know, why not take it? I mean, life is meant to be lived. And I'm not a guy that likes to sit back and wonder what if or what could have been or should have been.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The case was resolved, and we moved on. I'm restricted in what I'd love to be able to talk about, but I'm restricting what I can say. But, you know, again, it was kind of a blip on the radar screen.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I mean, you know, there's been ebbs and flows relating to that. I mean, I purchased an interest in that business and we turned it around to a significant degree. And then I exited the business and have ultimately served as kind of outside counsel to the company. And the company's had its challenges along the way.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, you know, that's true. And I mean, I think that's one of the issues. And as it relates to how we pick political candidates, by the way, I mean, do we want people that have been experienced, that have, you know, been through the trenches or not? Because if we want Lily White candidates. And if those are only the people that were going to elect, we're not going to get the best. I'll tell you that.”
2018-04-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 238 - Michael Avenatti · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source