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  1. And ask when you really need help how hard it is to ask one When you ask you don't receive right, you know, you don't just get the answer. That forecloses. You know, we all live on the surface. Ask me a question. I'll give you an answer. Can we move on? Question number two, please. Skim the surface, go down the line, and wait till it's just one gray line of collection of knowledge. Oh boy. So ask and you shall receive no, seek and you shall find no. Knock and the door should be open to you. No, ask and be troubled. Seek and get lost in the seeking knock and feel the barrier. Knock against the barrier. And where do you go from there? So in the Upanishads would say the trouble that's worth it so that you evolve and grow and learn how and find out how it works, not to get to the end

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  2. What is it that brings someone here? I know what brought me here. Does someone have to have that I had a rough patch? Does it have to happen that way? It doesn't have to be like that, though. You can't say you had traumatic childhood. That's why you're here. No. But trouble always comes. Here's this interesting comparison about where the Christian Bible has evolved. You would look at these scriptural passages that are in comparative religions. These things all line up from different cultures, right? That's what Campbell said. These myths are alive in all cultures and all times. The reductionism from the Greek translation of the Aramaic and in the English is ask and you shall receive, seek and you shall find knock, and the door will be opened to you. Oh man, that's a fairy tale for children. Ask, first of all, ask. Ask what?

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  3. Morgan Stanley Investment Management is the asset management division of Morgan Stanley. Statistics as of December 31, 2025. All investing involves risk of loss. Views are subject to change. Not investment advice or a recommendation Copyright twenty twenty six Morgan Stanley All Rights Reserved. And now back to the show.

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  4. If you're not in touch with your wound and your deficit or your flaw, and you don't know that it's in you and active in you because you've disidentified with it and you say, I don't want to go there anymore. You haven't genuinely had people go there with you and help you transform it into a healed whole. You'll compensate by disidentifying, and now instead of being the wounded one, you will be the helper.

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  5. Yeah, that they can't give us what they weren't given, or they went and weren't given it and created a hunger for them to go get it, you know, I give. Some of the deeply satisfying things is learning how to give somebody what I never got. But what's really painful is watching someone try to give to someone else out of their deprivation of what they were never given. They compensate all of us when we get wounded. That wound becomes our gift, because then through that pain and wounding I understand something. I am awake to the world now, and I see you hurting, and I get how that goes and what you need. But if I'm wounded and don't know, I will also say I don't want to be the wounded one. I want to be the one that helps wounded ones.

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  6. Yeah, boy, I remember you telling me a few years ago this concept that really resonated for me which was while your parents didn't have all the answers because no one told them I think the story you told was you're walking up to a bridge to cross a river and the bridge isn't there and you turn to your father and say Dad, where's the bridge? And he says, What's a bridge?

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  7. It's that kind of thing. We need the right conditions, but no one ever shows us how to hit, I think. Part of what we do to show people how.

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  8. I can't make you take the raincoat off You know, I can't make you want to reveal what's under there, but I can turn up some heat to make you want to take your shirt off.

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  9. Because we don't always want to learn how. We want to be given. Just give it to me. Just give me a hows like that. I want to know how you get one or a letter alone build one. Like, show me how to access a living myth So that this journey comes alive and show me how you create the conditions like we say, well, I can't tell you how you come alive inside, but I can create conditions that allows me to come alive and maybe others to come alive. And you sit in the conditions. I can't tell you how to get that raincoat off of you, but I can get a sun beating on you, maybe. Pretty hard.

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  10. You know, do you show me God or do you talk to Him for me? Or do you barter it or broker it? This thing around like, I watch that. Like, I don't know how to make it in the world. It's so deep, deep, deep-seated, this great fear because they don't show us how the world works. And one of my favorite Campbell quotes is, if you want to help this world show people how to live in it. Show them how to live in it. Show them how to live in it. It's so, there's so much shame when we don't know how and envy. We're like, ooh, you know how you have a really nice house. How'd you get that? You get that nice house? What do you know that I don't know? That's that deep underground competitive current rather than Samuel, you want to learn how?

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  11. Yeah, I think, you know, these universal truths about the way the world really is or how it works in this world, I think the biggest suffering that I saw even for myself this year, that I'm growing in appreciation, you know, the deep wound a lot of us carry is nobody showed us how the world works. Like how it works. So even you think about financial investment, and I don't know how do you show me or do you do it for me? And does that work? Not unlike the priests, you know, with access to God.

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  12. And rather than rely on yourself, when you say, when I lean into you and you lean into my hand and we rest in it, there's a dynamic tension we can feel and there's an aliveness I feel now in my body. How do I give this to myself? You know, I could do a push-up and be in the same position to give that for myself, and that's good. This feels like a living presence different. We're relying on one another, which is very different than depending on you and you carrying me.

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  13. Adults were adults doing adult things in the adult world, and kids were just around. Now what you didn't raise a kid, you fed a kid. You know, you schooled a kid. You didn't raise them. You didn't cultivate a child in my blue collar neighborhood, you kept a child, you know, the way you keep an egg in a nest and give it the things it needs, but there was no inner world that wasn't a real world, and heavenly things were for the next life. So do the right thing you'll get the reward in the next life, which never really comes in this one. When you say reliance, if like even if you give me your hand for a minute.

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  14. Me too, I mean, and in ways that were very good for shaping me, I was taught to rely on myself and encouraged to and also had to. I had to rely on myself. Some of that wasn't a choice because nobody was really there.

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  15. Midlife emerges symbol for Christ. Something needed to shift. And that process that'll last me the rest of my life started here. So that's how it was transformative. The other piece of it, I think, is a man in this financial world, in this society. And I was so accustomed to having to rely on myself. For everything Maybe I was conditioned that way as a kid, but I learned the power here of what you call the we instead of the I.

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  16. And that first year on the mountain. I learned life lessons that I just didn't know where they were coming from, didn't know how I didn't learn them along the way. And some came directly, conversations, some came from understanding the experiences of others. And a lot came from Sort of magical environment.

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  17. It's something stuck, but it sounded a little strange. And some years later, a lot happened in my life, and I felt the need to. Dive into something different changed in my life. And I remembered that and I called them up and he told me next to nothing. He said, oh, that's going on? Yeah. Maybe you should go.

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  18. Yeah, I think that's the way in, just like that is to say, I don't know how this goes or how to share this or where we can go, but that's in the spirit of the journey. And you used two words truly transformative, and maybe we start there like what's really true. What do you mean exactly for you when you say transformative?

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  19. Michael, I know my experience here on the mountain was truly transformative for my life, and I know it has been for the men that I've been here with. And I wondered if it made sense to share a little bit about that. I'm not quite sure how to go about it, but why don't we dive in?

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  20. around fires and all kinds of things to exchange on a body level something else that gets animated that may or may not be coming through to someone who's listening right now that makes perfect sense and no sense at all. You can't grab it. And the more you try to grab it, the more confused you are, but if you let it seep into you.

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  21. And then I'm going to undo this next. And now I'm going to deal with what happens when none of that is here defining me anymore, and now I will define me, but I don't know how that goes. And now there are no instructions, and the prescriptions are all gone. And that's the reorientation process towards mythic worlds, where your ability to be right here, right now, which takes work to animate something that starts to take over, and then you got to pay attention to it. And then you have to yield. Great heroic act of our times is to surrender to something beyond ourselves that starts to seep into us, these water droplets that we are oceans start to swim in us. When we yield to the ocean. So we use elements, we use different things to take us up in the air and under the ground and into the forests.

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  22. we're in a Mongolian Europe built by Bill Copper Swath in nineteen seventy the people are still amazed by and so you come up here and you enter into a living myth because where can you actually live it because most people read about it and can discuss it but where do you say I am going to leave everything I know behind

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  23. Same way, I wouldn't have went. So, you know, what we do is we come up here and we go into a giant reflecting mirror called this world around the natural world where we have, you know, wide open skies vast, vast horizons up over that high plains area over there. We have deep green forest fields to get lost in over here. We have cave systems underground here where there's these underwater currents flowing underneath us right now that no one can see or touch or feel that are shaping us right now. The limitations of four walls and you notice you have been in very few rooms, maybe one room in this entire space that we're in that's square. That's for a reason. We bring the background forward. It's all round spaces here.

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  24. Oh, you're talking about this particular form we're in right now? This particular form, yeah. Oh, right now, we're on a mountaintop Remote setting in the middle of a national forest in West Virginia, and the United States in We are up here to take leave of our minds, really, and the fabric of our culture that's shaping us every day into who we are to be We're spending seven days or one lifetime or eternity, whatever comes first, up here to undo the things that are called unquestioned assumptions about what is. Unquestioned and unexamined assumptions and expectations about how we believe life to be. That's not why somebody signs up. Somebody told them to come here and they all know what the hell they did. Nobody would come here if they knew why they were coming here

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  25. melancholic sweetness of a Sunday evening I got to go into the work world and I feel like I'm just approaching the majesty of the sunset you know so what came you know is through that was vision comes through that I did a vision quest with Joseph Jastrob in nineteen ninety whatever it was that I did it And that seeded it, of course, because I did a journey to get away from everything enough to know not to be shaped by forces around me what to do, but to really feel what that ignited in me and to make find what was really alive for me that it would be worth doing. That takes a long time.

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  26. Our call always comes when something's missing, you know, you have to be deprived of something has to be absent or undeveloped in the part of you that's awake and aware knows it. That part of you knows something's missing. That was making me wanted to seek out of the absence of what was there. So I just always felt like I was seeking and longing for something I knew was missing. And that's the compass heading. It took me years, decades really to understand that love dog's poem by Rumi it's the longing itself that's the call. And so I feel that, you know, and I get scared when I don't feel my longing. I used to try to cure it. I didn't know it was the cure. I'd make this longing go away, but even yesterday I felt the longing. You know, like when I feel the sun set, it makes me think of people I miss and times like, oh, that aren't here.

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  27. While the heroic task is facing what is, and not trying to change what is called a tyrant, Philip Shepherd writes about that in his books, you know, New Self, new world radical wholeness. No, that's a tyrant. Tyrants try to change the world around them to suit them. It's also called the infant. And rather we have to change ourselves in relation to what is and adapt ourselves to what is. And that's hard, hard work That's hard work to do that, to mature and ripen into saying I need you to be different from me so I can be happy. Have a go at that. What was the call?

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  28. I'm working on myself. Yeah, okay. What do you think is wrong with you? What needs improvement do you think? How are you looking at that? And is it trouble worth having? Are you trying to get rid of that trouble by improving yourself? Oh, keep improving. Let's see how it goes.

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  29. While the myth of the hero used to be to become more and more, you know, a superpower, you know, this idea that you become larger than life and you stand among the others as an example for others to follow. And that's been a real popular myth. But as culture changes, it reshapes the myth it needs for itself. So then it creates a new myth, which is still arriving in our times we're not there because there's no more one person that can be the hero, but the hero, I would say, is someone who's always called into unknowing, not knowing, but an unknowing, always called beyond the bounds, the rigidifying bounds of the familiar. into this world in order to reshape it and renew it and redefine the culture which then reshapes the people in it

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  30. George Lucas was a fan of Campbell. And he absorbed the myth, this whole sense that, you know, myth is something culturally very misunderstood. We tend to call myths lies. You know, if it's a myth, it's sort of a legend that's not true because you can't actually process it with a linear mind. So a linear mind takes a myth and says, oh, that's a lie. It's just myth. It's just a fairy tale. It's not really real. But what a myth is something that's truer than historical fact. Something more true than whatever a linear historical fact would be, I was born into existence in August of nineteen fifty nine, where it all began, with my mother, historical fact, but we identify with our historical facts as our reality of who we are. And that's the trouble, and that's the limitation, and that's the glass ceiling.

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  31. I never knew that. But now I know that's my job description. That's what I do for a living. That's what I do for a living. I do that for aliveness to become the zeal of eternity, you know, the way something just has this passionate zeal that lives outside of time that wants to incarnate into one thing it doesn't have, which is form. And so that started it. I got hold in. That took me down like, who's this Campbell dude? Another rabbit hole. Another facet on the diamond rope's courses, family systems theory, you know, religion, you know, all these different variables, rehabilitation. What the hell does that mean? And from there.

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  32. I know how did this happen? You use language that keeps saying how I did something. It's like the question keeps is like, well, then how did this keep happening? And, you know, then the next thing, you know, these are all things that happen reading a man by the name of Joseph Campbell. And it was like one of those things where the words jumped off the page. I wasn't just reading on flat paper, but something was being transmitted and what I was reading. And I remember this one time we're meeting there's this thing called the zeal of eternity that longs for incarnation in space and time. I'm like, what the does that mean? What makes no sense like the zeal, but my body and something in my psyche is animating the zeal of eternity for incarnation in time. I didn't know that was my job description.

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  33. Well, this is how it all unfolds, right? So I start learning how to do family work. I'm just studying family systems and bringing people together in psychodramas where people step in and play roles, meeting very fascinating men who mentored me like Abraham Torsky, who was a founder of the rehab. And Ken Ramsay people took men to their wing and showed me things and gave me ways of doing this. And then it unfolds. They build this thing at the time that was brand new called challens by choice ropes courses. Outside and they're like, what's that up there in the trees, you know? They told me, who uses them? All the patience. Why can't the family people use them? In fact, why can't I use them when we're not working? And we started doing work up in the air. And so that created a deeper sense of like stuff being in your, you know, a living being in your body where life is in the body.

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  34. Everything sought me out. That was a whole new orientation. So she calls me up as a follow up and says, would you like to work here? I'm like, what? At the time it was a really prominent place since you wanted me to be part of a brand new family program doing these kinds of constellations. And I said to her, No, thank you Oh thank you so much I'm so flattered, so honored that you ask but no thank you'cause I was getting pretty cool at the job I was in. She says okay could you tell me why not? I said yeah it's it's pretty far you know it's like a 50 minute rough it's pretty inconvenient I said inconvenient and we hung up and oh man that haunted me that word why inconvenient an opportunity of a lifetime I don't want to be troubled by driving there Two days later I called her back, thank God. And that started me on the next part of my

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  35. That yeah, what is this? What is this thing that animates us, that moves us? What is this thing that's intangible that makes the breeze blow, that makes me want to hug somebody, that makes me want to close my eyes because I can't stand to look, that makes me want to reach towards a stranger I don't even know and say something that's not clearly formed. What animates us and moves us and drives this whole thing? I don't have a clue. You know, it reminds me of, you know, the next thing that happened where I met a woman there at this workshop who worked at a place called Gateway Rehabilitation Center in El Equipa, Pennsylvania. And everything started moving. My first job at alternatives was the first and last job I ever sought out in my life. Everything else sought me out, and I didn't know how to pay attention to that first.

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  36. drink the same Kool Aid, walk the same way and are back into a world that reflects a reality back to you that says this is actually who you are. And it took a long time for that other world to come foreground in a way that said, wait, that's real. That's as real as anything. It's as real as going into Walmart or more real, more real than what I watch people do every day. They call that for a living? For a living? They don't look alive to me.

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  37. That lit the fuse what happened was as I went into interior spaces I didn't know were in me I didn't know they were there I had a glass ceiling in my life. I didn't know that was a glass ceiling. I didn't know they were doorways. I just thought that was the four walls of the world. In it opened up a whole new world. What do you do when you're in a whole new world? You experience oneness for real, oneness for real. I cried so hard to know my insides turned inside. I laughed so hard. I thought my eyes would explode. You know, my cheeks hurt, you know this feeling, you know? And then with strangers and then it starts unfolding. You know, so it opened me to magic and wonder. It was far beyond the world of reason. And then I went back into doing what I always do. Follow the prescription again.

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  38. They don't look like it. They either look like the guys I grew up with, the guys I worked in the mill with, the guys you would have walked down Wall Street with, who are humming a different tune, like an anthem, you know, allegiant to it and shaped by it, you know, and it shapes their reality and it's this self-closed loop. You don't do anything about that You just wait for the trouble to come'cause it always comes.

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  39. What do you do when you realize someone has a different light on and they're humming to a different song than you? Let them sing. Yeah, let him sing. Let him sing their song. I think the difference is to be less troubled by it, to be less troubled by it. It takes a long time, I think, Ted, for anyone, certainly myself to realize that. That everything happened in its own time, in its own way, that something's not really, really up to me or you or anyone else. And it's been really humbling to look around like here with men that are here. They're all ones I'd have never figured. They do not look the part.

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  40. And what do you do when you run into that resistance day to day, right? The world that I come in, the financial community, a lot of the stuff you're talking about is different things that people don't relate to.

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  41. He had to pick certain people to be in his story. And he picked a bunch of people, and then they said, I have to pick someone to be you as a boy. And he looked across the room and he says him. And it was me. I go okay, that's cool, you know. The next day I realized that I was not in a training program, and I would have never signed up for what I was in. I was in a full blown psychodrama experience, and I was to represent this man's interior life and the steering wheel came off.

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  42. I had many of them, but definitive ones, you know, those ones that are markers I was at the Caren Foundation and I guess early 1980s. I remember by the name of Sharon Wegshedter Cruz and I had an opportunity at my first place of employment to go get training in understanding family systems. So I signed up for this training program week-long training program in Reading PA and was nervous and I showed up there to be part of this training group. And we were first night in a big wide circle of about fifty people and this woman comes out and there's this big tension in the air. I'm thinking what kind of training program is this, you know? We're going around and we're understanding that there's going to be this guy who's going to be the protagonist in this thing that was going to happen. I'm like, oh, okay, that's interesting.

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  43. My marriage failed. And it wasn't like the fairy tale, and you can do all the right things and you can love one another even. That doesn't mean it works. And I started to bow in and feel like, oh shit, I'm a failure because if you don't follow the rules and it doesn't work, then you failed and then you try harder, you repent. try again and you repent and try again and I was fortunate enough to slip through into another way and have opportunities conspire to show me there is a world beyond right and wrong good or bad. You and

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  44. assuming I have that ability One day may Well, Zee, I used to think I was steering and I steered my life exactly how I was trained to steer or learn how to drive well. I know how to take hold of the wheel. I know how to take charge of the gas pedal, and I knew how to drive it into the ditch, or actually, you know, the car took itself there, you know, with the ways the culture shaped me and taught me. If you follow this way of life and you do exactly how we train you and you follow the commandments and you obey the rules, And you climb this ladder you will enter the kingdom of something and get your due, and I, like many, many people but in fully, and I play that game. I look to be good at it, and one day in my late twenties and then again, in my early thirties I realized the prescription does not work. and it all fell down.

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  45. I don't really know, you know, where that search started, but I think the drive or the sense of something beyond what we do day to day and beyond the stories that were told to me when I realized there's another story that probably was in my adolescence when I realized that there's something about magic and mystery and beauty that's called the opposite sex. You know a worthy god as any in nature. You know, I had the fortune of being part of a youth group that would go on retreats, you know, and a man who to this day I stay close to who took me along and bailed me out of trouble and looked after me and in his own unaware way me navigate the world beyond my immediate family, which is the first threshold is how does the world find you and meet you beyond your parents? Many of us don't make it that far, really. Formative experience led you to

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  46. Well, I came out of my mother awful young. In the culture of the steel mills of Pittsburgh and shaped by that world blue collar world of smoke and fire and steel. Forging out a Being given just the right amount of things to keep me going and deprived of the right amount of things to keep me unfed and denied enough to make me search.

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  47. Merv We are in the mountains of West Virginia in the late innings of another impactful hero's journey. I'm really excited after the impact you've had on my life the last five years to be able to share your story. So why don't we start with where it all began for you?

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  48. Training others, Michael practices psychotherapy at the Newen Center in Pittsburgh, where he has professionally resided for twenty five years. Our conversation took place in the mountains towards the end of this year's journey and is quite different from those you may be accustomed to hearing on the show. We cover Michael's path to creating the experience, the myth of the hero, lessons in how the world actually works, the call to adventure, perfectionism, uncertainty, fear, and poetry. If you're intrigued, I strongly encourage you to check out Hero's JourneyFoundation.org. Spaces are limited for the annual summer men's and women's journeys, so sign up for next year's trip at the website or reach out to me to find out more. I intend to be back on the mountain next year and hope to see you there. Please enjoy my conversation with Michael.

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  49. Both times I've been interviewed and shared those conversations on capital allocators, I made reference to a special experience I participated in for the last five years called the Hero's Journey, the week-long journey in the mountains of West Virginia provides a setting and platform for each participant to access their best self. My guests on today's show is Michael Mervash, the deeply insightful executive director and founder of the Heroes Journey Foundation, an organization that provides experiential learning opportunities for human development and transformation based on Joseph Campbell's mythic hero's journey. He has a passion and indescribable skill in enlivening the developmental process and fostering vitality, meaning, and well being in individuals, groups, and organizations. When not running programs or

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