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  1. “It was when the casino license, one of the casino licenses was up, and I met him once, you know, handshake and I looked at him. I just became totally distracted by the whole hair. Situation because I kept trying to figure out how was the front part.”

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  2. “Your reasoning here, you seem to be making a point. I want the president person, I want the person who understands the gravity and the intensity of this job. Dealing with friendly countries, dealing with unfriendly countries, dealing with international leaders. You've got codes. You've got stuff you have to do. And it's not all sound bites all day long. There are some real details that go with that. I mean, I can't even imagine what that job is. You've worked in, I mean, I got photos here. You worked in the White House. Just for my little job as mayor of the city, I mean, you have to know stuff. I don't know what he knows about running anything other than his own private business. Will the United States of America is not your private business?”

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  3. “Dilemma here to try to figure out: do you want someone who is, in fact, presidential, or do you want someone who is trying to become presidential, whatever that is?”

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  4. “A little bit, and yes, I think it would be a mistake to go down the same path that all of the other 16 or so Republicans went down, which is to try to engage him where he fights. So my father used to take me into fights all the time, boxing matches. And one of the things you learn is never fight the other fighters fight. If you're a slugger, and you want to duke it out in the middle of the ring, don't get caught in the corner and vice versa. So, I mean, it's a different kind of character, totally unconventional, but at the end of the day, I mean, she's like a real adult person who has a certain level of dignity and respect and is running for the presidency of the United States of America. And I think that's an area where she'll stay. He's still, I think, with the talk show reality show kind of mindset. And I think America has a real...”

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  5. “Yeah, I mean, I think now the challenge is if you try to change up too much. Then you have a different form of an authenticity problem because what are you doing? We see that you're trying to, you know. You can't be someone that you're not. But I mean, could she lighten up?”

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  6. “The form of communication. But all the while having dominated every part of every news cycle in the course of the day. So you can't even keep track of what's going on. But I think his supporters are such believers they don't care.”

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  7. “Maybe that wasn't the best. And then there's a new thing at 12, and then there's something else at 2, and then I can clean it up at 6. All the while, you know, I've been in.”

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  8. “No, it's whatever else he is, he just lets it. He just lets go. Well, because he can say whatever he says at 10 o'clock in the morning, and then after maybe his folks tell him.”

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  9. “Oh, yeah, yeah, no. People said, you know, he's a wonk, he's this, he's not. I had to, I mean, I had to learn a little bit over time to loosen up, lighten up a little bit. And I've shown over my eight years, I think I developed the ability to show more of myself.”

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  10. “So a little bit of that history of what time is it and you get the history of watchmaking in America. So I think that's a part of it. She's not. Is not a sound bite machine in that way.”

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  11. “That people, you know, people want to know you. I mean, this whole idea that oh, I want to vote for someone who I'd love to have a go and have a beer with. Whether I ever will or not, but that's of what people think. She's, I think, very precise in her language. She gives you a more detailed answer sometimes than maybe you would really like. Maybe you'd want from her.”

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  12. “Yeah. So I think there are a few things going on. Part of it is, you know, Secretary Clinton, Hillary Clinton, has been on the public scene for a long period of time. There have been many ups. There have been many downs. And I think in the best way I can characterize it fairly or unfairly, fairly well beaten up by various media and certainly the Republicans in general. I mean, they've kind of specialized in that. So I think, you know, the natural instinct is to almost kind of go within yourself, lessen the surface area for attack, and be very, very guarded in that regard. That's a challenge for any elected official, but certainly one for higher office, I would say at a minimum at the mayoral level and up.”

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  13. “Secretary Clinton should have a little bit of a lead. And then as Pennsylvania usually does when it gets right close to the election, it'll tighten back up again. And Pennsylvania will be very competitive in terms of this election cycle. But it is a bit of a microcosm of the United States of America with all the diversity of Pennsylvania. Fifth or sixth largest state, I think we're the sixth now, 11 to 12 million people. But agriculture is the number one industry in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. I have to remind Philadelphians about that. You know, we're all cosmopolitan and tall buildings and all that kind of stuff. But agriculture.”

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  14. “Well, you know, Pennsylvania usually is a must-win for whoever's going to win. And I think Pennsylvania, we will be our usual purple selves. Pole came out, I think, just the other day showing the race very tight. I think as the race goes on into the fall.”

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  15. “Yeah, yeah. So I get to see him and work with him from time to time. So I'm up at Columbia a lot in New York. In New York, What Works Cities is a one year old program now of the funded by Bloomberg philanthropies, and I get to, I'm a senior fellow there. I get to work with mayors across the country in cities of 100,000 population to less than a million and helping them with all kinds of initiatives, data and evidence-based driven programs. So that keeps my hand in the mayor of city world, the stuff that I really love. I took on an executive fellowship with Drexel University and their Institute of Strategic Leadership back in Philadelphia, which will start very soon. And then my passion and commitment to public safety. So this is volunteer work. I'm on the Homeland Security Advisory Council with Secretary J. Johnson.”

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  16. “Right on CNN. I'm the inaugural David N. Dinkins, professor of practice in urban and public policy at Columbia University. Another trail blaze.”

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  17. “Absolutely. One of my number one things is to be here at IOP. Every now and then, you know, if I'm lucky that night, I get to sit on the other panel across from you.”

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  18. “As well. You know, look, we invest in the things that we care about. And if we're not investing in kids when all is said and done, I'm not sure what all the other investments are doing.”

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  19. “Yes, yes. Critically important for not only their nurturing and their growth, but also in many instances for their safety and security, right? Whether they might be a perpetrator one day or a victim.”

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  20. “And your homoom is at E15 or whatever time it is, and you got history at whatever time. The real issue is, and we both agreed on the general hours, that three to six, three to seven time period is deemed by most who have studied this. One of the most dangerous time of the day for young people. And so what I've talked about is a roster for that time. Where are all those children? What are they doing? What rec center are they at? What library are they attending? What park program? Street fund.”

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  21. “Absolutely. And we're now in some of our schools in Philadelphia. I mean, kids are literally getting at least two and a half, if not three meals a day. They're definitely doing the breakfast. They're clearly getting a lunch. They might get a snack later in the afternoon, and we are literally providing some dinner for them. You know, I've often talked about this idea that in-school students, kids, you know, they have a roster.”

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  22. “Combination of things. So, I mean, obviously, we need to invest more in early childhood education, but I think that, I mean, we should be talking to our children about their futures if they can even understand the concept of college. It doesn't really matter. Third grade, fourth grade. And the support services that you really have to wrap around middle school students is increasingly important. That's about place-based services that are in the school. It's principals and teachers, I mean, really focusing in on that level of inspiration with children and trying their best to draw those parents in no matter what else is going on in their lives. Even for parents who are struggling, it's not like they don't care what's going on with their kids, right? But left to their own devices, they may do something else.”

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  23. “Well, that's where, I mean, you know, it's often used. I don't say it that much as maybe is. Much as some other people, but I mean, that's what community is about. That's what this concept of the village is about. Ozzie and Harriet only existed on television, right? And so everyone's not going to have the perfect childhood. Growing up. But if your parents aren't doing it, then maybe it's grandma or an aunt or the neighbor down the street. Or, you know, that's where mentorship and sponsorship and boys and girls clubs and others come into play. I mean, we just can't say, well, you know, your parents aren't paying that close attention, so therefore too bad.”

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  24. “Uniformly, no. We have some excellent public schools in Philadelphia. We have some that are okay. And unfortunately, we had to close a bunch during my time. Again, a decision made by the school superintendent who does not work for me, but I supported that effort. We have district managed schools, we have charter schools, which are a great option for many of our parents, but the charter school funding formula is disadvantageous to the rest of the school district. That's a state issue.”

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  25. “And you have a responsibility for everything. So you might as well just step up and do the best you can and trying to parse through, well, no, I'm not technically in charge. Nobody wants to hear that, right? You have the office. You got the big thing. Do something. And so I tried to provide that kind of leadership, working with four different superintendents, 17 different SRC members over my time, three different governors. And one mayor who was the solid stable person for those eight years. So I think we made some progress.”

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  26. “Now, the state is still technically in charge. But what I did get was a level of cooperation from those five members, all of whom I knew. We raise taxes four or five years in a row, put $400 million of new money invested in education, while the state was cutting about $300 million at the same time. And we saw some progress. I can only imagine how much better things would have been if the state wasn't doing what it was doing. We now have a Democratic governor who wants to invest in education. But whether you're directly in charge or not, you know as well as I do, David, people believe that the mayor is in charge of everything.”

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  27. “Five members, three appointed by the governor, two by the mayor. My position was, after every political person I ever talked to, who told me when I became mayor, don't get too deeply involved in education. You can't control it. You're not in charge of it. And ultimately you get stuck with it, to which I responded. But they're my children in my city. And if I don't improve the educational system in Philadelphia, we're not going to move up economically. So, I mean, I went against the green on that. I think it's one of the best things that I could do. And high school graduation rate went up.”

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  28. “They are completely interrelated, and they're intertwined. We find in Philadelphia that the overwhelming majority of people, for instance, who are arrested for violent crime are also high school dropouts. And again, also want to be clear, just because you're a high school dropout does not mean that you're going to ever commit any kind of crime, let alone a violent crime. But those are the facts. And the lack of opportunity, the lack of the skills to get a job and take care of yourself is the flip side of, you know, we're usually not arresting people who are working and employed and taking care of themselves and have the skill set to move up in life. And so education and public safety really are tied together. In Philadelphia, different than Chicago. The mayor is not directly in charge of education. The state took over in 2001. They put in place a school reform commission.”

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  29. “Forerunner of Donald Trump. Did you fire the poster? Well, I said, no, he was the same guy who predicted I was going to win by 12 points. Which I did at the end. So, you know, this was not starting off as some kind of positive-looking effort. But I was committed to the campaign and to the city. And ultimately, the fact that I was the only person running who had city government experience, the other four people had Congress, State House, multimillionaire. But, I mean, I actually knew what I was talking about, I think, really helped.”

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  30. “The city's reputation in our public view badly. And quite frankly, that was one of a few reasons that I really started seriously thinking about the prospect of running for mayor. I mean, I was, you know, in my late 40s, I'd done 14 or so years, 13, whatever, and to myself, what do I want to do and what I want to do next? And what do I have to offer? It's not enough just to criticize the current administration. And, you know, it's kind of like, you know, you think you're so smart, you should try. And eventually I said, I'm going to go for it. No one gave me any chance. You may or may not know the story. I took a poll. In May of 2006 I was still a member of city council. And my own poll that I paid for basically indicated that no matter who ran, I would be fifth in a five-way race. People have said,”

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  31. “Yeah, well, I mean, I think from the indictments or pleadings or people going to jail, I mean, clearly there were things going on around him. I do not believe that John Street knowingly engage in illegal activity. I think that being mayor, it's a huge job and stuff goes on and people use your name or your cachet or whatever the case may be. And then they do things for their own benefit. But I don't think he got anything out of any of these things, which is why he was never charged with anything. But, you know, but the stuff was happening.”

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  32. “But died before going to trial. And other things happen and other people connected to the administration or the mayor 15 to 20 or so indictments and people going to jail.”

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  33. “And I think it's important for me to say that the mayor was never charged with anything. There were no direct accusations or anything like that. But the city treasurer went to jail, which he just got out, I think, last year. He got 10 years. The mayor's top fundraiser and clearly one of his best friends.”

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  34. “From Philly powers within the African American community, so but, you know, he was about to become council president. I just won my city council seat. And so we had some conversations, reached a level of understanding. In the early years, I was very supportive of the work that he was doing as city council president, as happens sometimes, you know, a deal here, a deal there, an agreement here and agreement there, and I thought that some things have been violated along the way. We ended up in some very different positions in the late 90s. He then ran for mayor in 99. I was for somebody else. He won, Ministry won. And throughout the course of his mayoralty, we had some pretty big battles.”

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  35. “So we came out of, he and I came out of different political camps. I was in the Bill Gray camp. He was in the Lucian Blackwell. Lucian Blackwell”

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  36. “Like in times of crisis. Yeah, right on the verge. And I think Ed Rendell, you know, by force of personality and enthusiasm and stick to plowed his way through it, and city council, I think our role to some extent was to be supportive and helpful to the mayor. But I learned a lot of executive lessons just watching that experience as we were going through it, which ultimately helped me a great deal when the really big economic crisis hit in 2008.”

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  37. “Yeah, well, the city was on the verge of bankruptcy. Ed Rendell had run in 87 and lost. I ran in city council race in 87 loss. And then he came back in 91. He won I won. And we started down that path together. The city, a $250 million budget deficit that year, there were all kinds of controversies about union contracts, et cetera, et cetera. But I learned a lot through that period. It's a great book, by the way, called a prayer.”

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  38. “Way no, apparently not really. We got married in July. So I won. And then 14 and a half years in City Council, which I loved and enjoyed and did a whole bunch of stuff. I was very”

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  39. “I guarantee you that. Yes, yes. You're absolutely right. And so then ran in 1991. On my way to being married because my wife, Lisa and I decided that In the summer of'90, that we would get married in'91, and I said, That's great. As long as it's between the primary and the general.”

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  40. “And then spent the next three or so years getting ready for that, changing some of the political landscape became a. Were you married at the time?”

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  41. “Some were not good, yeah, but you learn a lot about yourself when you go through this process. And I announced on election night that I was going to run again.”

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  42. “Reform oriented candidates? Yes, yes, yes. And that was my orientation. That was my mentor, the councilman that I worked for, who unfortunately passed away about five months after the 1983 primary. But we talked over the summer of 83, and the plan was that I would run for a district seat in 1987. He was an at-large member. And so I ran. And learned a lot of things about myself and other people and announced on election. Not all.”

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  43. “I ran for a city council in nineteen eighty seven, lost, was running against an incumbent who was a part of the establishment in the machine and the whole thing, came close, pretty tough battle, went back to the investment firm.”

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  44. “Yeah, it was my zero. I'd worked at Xerox shortly after coming out of college, stayed for 21 months. And when I realized that they were not on the verge of making me a senior vice president at 24, quit and said, basically I have no future here. That's part of being 24. 24-year-old's difference. So in the meantime, I'm still working at the nightclub. I was doing both. I was working at Xerox and still at the nightclub. Kept that job. And then...”

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  45. “Same thing in Philadelphia. Crime went up, finally crime went up 15 as compared to 14. It's up year to date, 16 compared to 15. We don't know why. And that is the case in a bunch of cities across the country. And so there are a lot of theories out there. I don't think anyone really knows because we haven't had enough time.”

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  46. “Is it something else? And there is this thought that it is better to be judged by twelve than carried by six. And so you have to make some split second decisions. Again, it's about training. It's about oversight. It's about the overall message that's being sent to the troops on a regular basis. And sure. Individually, I'm sure that there are some officers who are worried if I get engaged in whatever this is or whatever I think it might be. Am I the next one who's on the nightly news or on national television with some greeny video and question marks about am I racist? Am I insane? Am I just got a death wish or whatever the case may be? But I mean, I find it hard to believe that that mindset pervades an entire police force. There is something going on. We have a violence problem in America, which we just need to acknowledge and then try to.”

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  47. “It's a tricky situation. And again, having had to make some tough decisions on some of these calls, what I always say to the public is to the reporters, neither one of us were there. Things happen in a split second. You have to make a judgment. Is it a gun? Is it a phone?”

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  48. “I struggle with this Ferguson effect. And at the end of the day, I mean, I don't think that's a full explanation of what's going on. I find it hard to believe when push comes to shove that a trained professional police officer sworn to take action in certain situations would turn a blind eye, look the other way, not engage because they're worried about if they were confronted with an act.”

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  49. “Then you're in a downward spiral because the citizens are not going to trust the police and the police are not going to appreciate the citizens' perspective and then the citizens are mad with the police. I mean, there's no end in sight for that. And so when that relationship is broken, it takes a lot of time and a lot of effort, like daily, every day, to try to repair it. There are things that you say. There are things that you do. There is a public aspect to it, but there's a lot of private conversations that need to take place. It doesn't get solved with a press release or a press conference, you know, kind of a one-off kind of thing. But you have to be committed to it. And then what's the commissioner doing? What are the deputies doing? What are the captains in the district doing? And it's neighborhood by neighborhood, location by location, and it does take an enormous amount of time to repair and recapture a level of relationship. But you have to have it.”

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  50. “Absolutely. And I said that from the start when I was a candidate, our violent crime rate was going up. Every other major city in America was going down. And you can't have a great city if people don't feel safe. So I did take a very aggressive but respectful position on the issue. I'm also the person when I was a council member that created the police advisory commission to deal with complaints against police by an independent entity that could truly get to the bottom of what's going on. So, I mean, I've seen both sides, and now I've been on both sides as a city council member and as a mayor. I've seen dead kids out in the street, and I've also had to go to hospitals and see dead police officers. So, I mean, I have a perspective here that says, you know, the community has to work together, the police need good citizens to give them information, and the citizens want respectful officers to show up.”

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