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Michel Barnier

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  1. “Yes, two of them were born during the negotiation and I thank them, one boy, one girl, to have accepted to share their grandfather with the wits. What about the British auditors”

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  2. “Now, the lack of time for your private life, for your wife, for your children, your grandchildren. The reason why I dedicate my book to my two grandchildren, because two of them...”

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  3. “be arrowground. I think for a long time that in the EU today, past EU with the UK, every and each member state has an added value. Even the smallest one.”

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  4. “Yes, I'm concerned. If you look at the past things delysee between General de Gaulle and Conrad de Ruer, this cooperation has never been spontaneous and never been evident, never been easy, except perhaps, and it's there during the time where the two leaders were on one side Val ⁇ ry Giscard d'Estaing, and on the other side Helmut Schmidt because they had between themselves real and great friendship. This cooperation is, if I may say, day after day more and more necessary and less and less sufficient. So we have to work together. It has been never easy to find solution, to find proposal, but being always careful to take into account the others, to respect the others. French are sometimes arrogant.”

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  5. “projects, the citizens give you a mandate, money, public money. What must you do? What must you do with all these tools? You have to create progress, collective progress for the people, so that at the end of your mandate, four years, five years, six years, the people can see a progress in their collective life. What is, in my view, politics. And what I always try to do as a minister, I've been the president of the territory of Savoy in my region. What I always try to do is to put people coming from different sides together on the same table to build together, to create progress together.”

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  6. “Yes, good and personal equation. To be clear, I was involved in politics sooner when I was 14 and 50, 15 years, thanks to a great stateman, General de Gaulle. The contrary of a politician. I'm proud, and it is my first reason to be proud to have been involved in his party when I was 15 or 16. And I was elected the first time by the citizens in 22 and at the National Assembly at 27. I used to be even the youngest member of the French National Assembly. You know it was titled You Lose Very Quickly. But what is politics? What is the reason to be involved in politics? For me, it's very simple and very difficult at the same time. When you are involved, you have values, convictions, ideas.”

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  7. “Europeans in general have to draw the lesson and I think we have begun to draw the lessons by less naivety in our trade relations, better control of the border with 10,000 new posts at the border of the EU by for instance Alistair. For the first time we borrow 750 billion billion euros after the COVID crisis to invest and to react the very first time in 60 years that the EU decided to borrow and to invest together. This is the right way in my view to protect ourselves.”

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  8. “I think that one lesson of the Brexit is very clear, an event which seemed unprobable can happen. So it was true for UK. Brexit was unprobable, even for some of the Brexiters. And it happened. So this one is why the first chapter of my book is called a warning, perhaps for you, for the Brits, but surely for us, we need to draw the lessons to confuse, to merge what I call the popular sentiment, the social anger in many regions against unemployment, against an uncontrolled migration, against insecurity, lack of security. These are the tools, the materials of the social anger, the popular sentiment we need to take into account. We need to understand, we need to answer.”

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  9. “Rory, we need to be precise to avoid any kind of misunderstanding. When I spoke during the primary in France two years ago last year when I spoke,”

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  10. “And a way to help this incredible continent to develop itself and for the people to live where they are born, capacity to resist and to control the financial services in the world or the internet companies. There is so many global challenges. We can fight, we can resist to the challenges alone, neither Germany, France or UK. We need to be together to cooperate. That is the most important.”

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  11. “We expect and we hope for any government, the government today, the government tomorrow. Once again, it's the choice of the UK people, the British people, to respect the signature, to implement, to normalize, in particular this very key issue of the peace and the stability in Northern Ireland. And to build on this base of trust, a new partnership because for the people who listen to us just right now, I want to say that the future of cooperation, the future of Europe, the continent of Europe, including UK, the continent, this future is much more important than the Brexit. We need to build this strong partnership as far as war and peace are concerned in Europe, in particular in those days. As far as the climate change is concerned, as far as the poverty in Africa,”

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  12. “If I wrote this sentence because I thought at that time that Kerr Stamber, among other people, other leaders had at that time asked today the capacity, but nothing will, it's not for me to choose. If I listen British people to choose who will be their future or next prime minister, not me, never. Just my question is clear. Working with cast hammer several times thought that he is a strong leader. He has the capacity.”

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  13. “For you to choose. The door is open for the Custom Union. The door is open for the single market. The door is open for the union. But it is for the UK people to decide, not me, frankly speaking. The only point is to be aware that if from now to this time of discussion, this point, we have to avoid too great divergence, regulatory diverg Because it could be more complicated. But it is for the UK to decide.”

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  14. “French one are nice. and banking agencies. They say, he said two days before, in the middle of negotiation, it's perfectly possible that these two agencies remain in London. No way. No way. It was totally possible. It was legally impossible. The EU agency has to be located in one member state of the EU.”

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  15. “Exactly what I mean a few minutes ago when I spoke about the lack of realism. Remember when we went with Jean-Claude Juncker for this famous dinner tenderly with Theresa May a few days before the official minister in charge of the negotiation.”

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  16. “And every week, at least every week, during four years. So this is the reason of the unity. And if I may add one point, what the Brits did not understand until now. I'm sure they understand now. But it was losing time to try to divide us because at the end of this road linked to the European treaty, we needed to be unanimous to approve. So that means that the obligatory unanimity was a key for unity. The key. That means that one problem or one member state, first of all Ireland, the peace in Ireland, but also the place of the two sovereign bays of the UK in Cyprus, but also Gibraltar for Spain, but also for eight member states, the fishery issue, all these specific and national issue became obligatory challenge for all.”

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  17. “It's possible that it would have been more efficient for the Brits to have a permanent negotiator, but the ambassador was there and took a large place, a key place in the negotiation. The key point is to know what is the link, what is the level of trust between who negotiates and who decide. And on my side, I was a single negotiator, but this unity of the 27 was not given by chance. did not fall from the sky. I've built this unity every day by several means in several ways. For the first time in Brussels in such extraordinary negotiation, we play total transparencies, total. In addition to that, I went once per week in a capital of the 27. Every once a week. Meeting the Prime Minister, the business community, the trade unions, the National Parliament, the press.”

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  18. “The point is that they have signed after they have negotiated very carefully word by word, comma by comma, distributed, there is no surprise. For the 27 member states, for the parliament, what is important and what remains important now, the treaty itself, we are speaking of two international treaties.”

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  19. “What Boris Johnson and some others said by words in radio or in speech is what they sign and signing a treaty in the name of so great country that the UK is a key point for us.”

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  20. “I took pardon four years to the European Council. Was invited, which was totally unusual. To take part, to sit at the table, to be seated at the table with the head of state and the government during four years every time they spoke about the Brexit.”

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  21. “You are right in the certain sense, but what can I say? It was a British choice to organize a negotiation as the British decide to do that. I have no comment. On my side also, I had the Commission, Jean-Claude Juncker, head of cabinet, very strong, but they trust me. They trust me to be the unique and single negotiator and to let me just recall that it was the very first time that for such a serious and extraordinary negotiation, the three institutions of the EU choose one single negotiator. I was a negotiator for the Commission with all the technical means and the capacity of the Commission to deliver expertise, but also the negotiator for the European Parliament and also for the 27 member states. And it's the reason why to prove this trust, which was key. For me and for the negotiation, the EU side.”

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  22. “Negotiator, the minister who have for a long time a cordial relation is David Davis because we knew each other a long time before because we used to be both of us Minister for European Affairs in 1990, 94, 95. Each of them has his own personality. Each of them has been They were the main player. It was a, I don't know why, but the reality, the truth that I had during these four years, four different British negotiators.”

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  23. “Any consequences, the legal, financial, technical, economic, social, and political dimension. Leaving 630, leaving 45 years of cooperation have many consequences. So that is no humiliation and no capitulation in my view.”

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  24. “No, I didn't remember this sentence, but I do not agree. It was not an humiliation. It was certainly not a capitulation. It was just no more no less a treaty drawing the lessons and drawing the consequences of the Brexit. The decision of the UK to leave, in the same time, it was not an obligation, Rory, you know that, to leave the single market and to leave the custom union. But this decision is globally historical in a certain sense dramatic. As I said personally in front of the press, a few days after my nomination in October 16, in the press room of the Commission in Brussels, I said clearly nobody must underestimate the consequences of the Brexit. The Brexit will have many, many”

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  25. “without given any lessons and being always respectful. Johnson was much more baroque, if I can use this word. I write this word in my book than Theresa May. More than that, it seems to me that during the time of John Sunday last year, we conclude the two agreement with Johnson, November 19, and the second agreement on the withdrawal of the UK from the single market. During this time with Johnson and Frost, ideology took hold against certain traditional pragmatism of the UK. Frankly speaking, I think that I've been all along this long story, and in particular during this last year, much more pragmatic than the Brits.”

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  26. “She always acts with dignity, certain courage, tenacity. The reason why I respect Theresa May, I think we worked with her in good faith, but for the rest, what happens around her in the Tory party has been evident. These people succeed to push Theresa May outside, huh?”

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  27. “Essential part of these two deals are the same as far as the trade with the single market. The only difference, the key difference is about Ireland and Northern Ireland. And the way to find solutions to the problem created by the Brexit in Northern Ireland. What creates problems? Totality to remain a certain time in the custom union. Johnson was opposed to this option and we find another solution. And this is a proof that we have been on the European side very flexible.”

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  28. “think that all these difficulties, current difficulties in UK, are not linked to the Brexit, but all these difficulties are more severe and more serious because of the Brexit.”

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  29. “Brexit is a lose lose game, and a lose-lose game for everybody on both sides. I did not change my mind. There is no added value to Brexit. There is no added value to be out of the single union, the single market or the custom union. And nobody has been able, even Mr. Farage listened carefully when I met him in my office a few years ago, even Mr. Farage, nobody has been able to give me any proof of the added value of the Brexit to be out. To be frank, I look at the current difficulty of the UK. Nobody can be happy. Both sides is the same for you. Many things are not going well on the EU side. Nobody can appeal because we need to be stable. We need stability and progress on both sides to cooperate together.”

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