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“Just for grins, let's say China. We've got an investment that we've made in China. But it's not making sense, right? We're not seeing what we thought we were going to see from the revenues or from the production, whatever. What's going on? Well, if we have someone rock up at that factory or that manufacturing facility or whatever, and outside the factory is just rows of noodle shops or whatever, you know, food trucks or whatever you want to call it.”
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“Yeah, and then I'll just get in your cab and we'll start talking. People love this, I mean, you're probably on planes as much as I am. People love to talk. And they love to talk about themselves. So if you just ask questions, right? If that's all you do, you don't have to say anything about yourself. I don't know how many thousands of conversations I've had where. It's almost so, what are you doing? I said, you know, I'll give him some bullshit. I mean, not now, but as soon as you give them something that doesn't sound interesting, then fine. Now you got a runway. Then you just turn it onto them and say, so what do you do? People want to talk about themselves. It's striking sometimes. And I mean, we find this all the time in just information gathering, right? Like if we have a client and they say, we've got a business in...”
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“Well, theoretically, it's just going to be, I'm going to find something that you're interested in And then I'm going to be a conversation. It's as simple as that.”
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“Yeah, I know I had the same thought when I first started and they kind of went through this process of saying what are motivations? Well, money is a big one. So you've got, you know, and then ideology not so much. Sometimes it could be something as simple as they've got a sick kid. They can't get treatment for the kid in whatever country they happen to reside in. Sometimes it's... It's more base than that. They don't feel like they got enough hugs from their employer or they feel disrespected by their government or whatever. You have to be able to identify those weaknesses. And then you have to be willing to play on them, frankly.”
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“Yeah, he was getting paid. He had some issues. He was kind of a quirky individual. He was spending a lot of money on a mistress, someone who he imagined to be his mistress. Motivation can be a difficult thing, right? Sometimes, and sometimes it's a very straightforward thing. It's usually not ideology.”
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“You look at those people. You look at anybody who does that. They're not just betraying their country. They're betraying their service. They're betraying their family. All these things because it's a fascinating psychology. And if you don't think about that, if you don't understand that, then I think it's hard to close the deal with anybody.”
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“He, interestingly enough, was a longtime FBI agent who he was responsible for counterintelligence to some degree, for a big degree related to the former Soviet Union and to Russia. And so he had a tremendous amount of knowledge about how the Russian service worked. And then eventually he ended up allowing, he wasn't even recruited, he offered his services, but he offered him in such a way because he understood how they worked that he was able to do it without the Russians knowing who he was, right? So it was a very remote relationship, and he controlled it, which is fascinating, which allowed him to then do this for a very, very long period of time and betray a number of our Russian. And those people didn't have a happy ending. And so the idea is that”
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“Hansen, these are all traitors to the US, so moles, whatever you want to call them, within. The Agency Hansen was at the FBI, one of the most destructive traders we ever had, but”
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“There's not a lot of potential recruits for Hezbollah right now. Even though there's headroom, I don't think there's a lot of willing people wanting to take some of those jobs. But the point being that you could end up doing all of those things. You might have spotted somebody. You might develop them. You might recruit them, right? And you're going to handle them for a while. Maybe then you're going to head off someplace else and someone else is going to come in and take over that relationship. That's also a crucial point, right? Because, you know, if you've developed a personal relationship with somebody to the point where they're going, yeah, I guess I can do that. I can't provide you with intelligence on this or that. Because think about they're not just betraying their country. I've always thought about this, particularly when we're talking about traders here in the States, right? You know, Edley Howard, Jim Nicholson, right?”
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“Have difficult places. Obviously, it's more difficult to work in a challenging environment, like pick a place. I mean, right now, current conflicts, think about working in Lebanon. If you're developing or working with a source.”
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“Is a remarkable thing, I've always felt anyway. So then when I went into business, You know, the idea of business development, of selling seemed like, sure. That's an easy lift, right? Because, you know, that's anyway, I'm disappearing down the rabbit. No.”
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“A really important asset, someone who's in a position of access, maybe because they've risen up through their own government That window from the minute you get them on board, you set the hook, you get them recruited, and they start reporting, taking tasking, that window starts to close. And there's a clock that's ticking because usually that's a, it can be a corrosive thing on a person's character, right? Their being. So you recruit a Russian. You're always in the back of your mind thinking, okay, how long do we have here before? Because unless they're a psychotic, right? Then they don't care. They don't give a shit. They'll be happy to do this. But it's not a normal thing. So to be able to convince somebody to sell the idea to somebody that they should. Essentially, commit treason on their country.”
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“And how can you get a hold of it appropriately? So how can you get that information? You identify the target, then you figure out what you need to do to develop potentially a relationship. You develop that relationship. If you're fortunate enough, you recruit that asset, that person could be a deputy foreign minister, could be a senior military officer, could be a cab driver who can tell you everything that's happening in a particular neighborhood of interest, whatever it might be. But that process of that recruitment cycle of the spotting, targeting, development, recruitment, running, then you've got to maintain that relationship. And the interesting thing is oftentimes, particularly when you're talking about a really”
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“NASA is a source, is a recruited source. So that's a good point. There's misconceptions sometimes in vocabulary, right? So they'll say CIA agent. Well, in reality, it's a CIA officer. The agent is the person that's been recruited or the asset, the human source. And so that's an incredible skill, right? To be able to go out, you have to identify first of all you start with what's the information you're looking for. And that's a fascinating thing. It turns out that what I used to do and what we do in my business, which is intelligence and investigations, security services, is pretty much the same thing. What information does the client, in the CIA's case, that's the US government? What information does the client need? Where does it reside? Who has access to it?”
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“Well, no, we have different types of operations and different types of things. I mean, so you can end up living in a foreign country for two or three years, and you've got a home there and you're working there and other times it could be a short one-off operation where you're just dropping in to do something in particular, maybe to meet an asset or whatever it might be.”
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“Yeah, I spent my entire time. I never had what you would call a headquarters tour. So I spent all my time overseas traveling.”
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“Actually, reach weapons capability for their nuclear program. Whatever the tasking is, right, it comes into the agency. The agency then, fine, let's get busy with it. And there's other elements of the Intel community all working very hard to accomplish that same thing. So it could be the NSA is also working on that. It could be military intelligence is also working on that. There's a lot of moving parts, but my part was at the agency.”
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“Going to sound really weird to do whatever I was instructed to do. further the mission objectives. And what I mean by that is that's not just me or another officer or somebody else in there. That's their job. So the CIA doesn't set priorities. It doesn't set tasking. That's done by the White House and those in the White House, in the government at the time, the administration at the time for setting the priorities tasking. And that's in part obviously guided by intelligence provided by the intelligence community. So it's a symbiotic relationship, but the tasking comes into the agency and the agency says, fine, get on with it. And that could be a collection of intelligence on a particular subject. So you could be talking about we need to know what Putin's plans and intentions are. We need to know what's the breakout time for the Iranian regime.”
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“I'm a dude who's been very fortunate in life. I started with the CIA at an early age, not necessarily expecting to start with the CIA in the operations directorate.”
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“Because in its core, the CIA's responsibility is to get intelligence because without that, you cannot make smart strategic decisions. And if you can sell the idea to somebody that they should commit treason on their country and betray their family to gather intelligence and protect U.S. national security interests, then that's an incredible skill to use in selling and business. And there's a lot of ways you can do this. People are capable of it more so than they realize. But there's a lot of similarities between what I used to do in the spy world and what you do in business. There's targeted manipulation psychology of how people think. Identifying weaknesses and leverage, how to close the deal. And the most important thing I took away was what I referred to as getting off the axe. And that's how you get companies to stay with you for 20 years.”
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“China is at war with the West already. We just don't see it. And when I look at a map like this, I see a lot of problems. Here is one issue. Over there at Putin is threatening nuclear weapons. And then this regime has been engaged in assassination plots on the president-elect. And then over here, this is looming, right? There's a major issue”
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