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Mike Pence

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first: 2022-12-01
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“They certainly could, but there are provisions of the Constitution that bear upon this, I'm told, and I'll reflect very deeply on that.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I would say to you about the Justice Department inquiry two things. Number one, I cannot put behind me years of politicization at the Justice Department that have been un Furled before the American people. I mean, the idea that you had FBI agents falsifying documents to gain warrants against individuals through the whole Russia collusion hoax, I mean, the credibility, because it grieves me, I was on the judiciary committee for 12 years, it grieves me the way so many Americans have lost confidence in the Justice Department. I recently called out members of my own party that were talking about defunding the FBI. I said, that's not acceptable. We need to support the men and women of the FBI, but hold the leadership accountable for decisions that they make that smack of politics. So that's the backdrop of this. But for me, I'll speak to my counsel about that, and we've come to no conclusion. But again, for me, it will be recognizing a unique obligations that I have under the...”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Fact check true. I think the American people deserve my story. But Congress had no right to my testimony. Under the separation of powers enshrined in the Constitution of the United States I have to tell you the very title of the book comes from the oath that I took to support and defend the Constitution. It ended with a prayer, so help me, God. And what I would say to you about the problem.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, we do. But a matter before the Congress is different. It's different. Look, let me be clear about that. It was a good line on your part.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I assume you would. You worked in the White House. You understand the unique relationship between the vice president and the president. And no vice president's ever been summoned to the Congress to speak about private deliberations with a president. And what I would say to you is although you do.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, first, there's two different inquiries in Washington, as you know, and I made it clear in recent weeks that I would not participate in the January 6th committee.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'll be for him. I know you're not Republican primary voters chose the right candidate in 2016. I believe they will choose the right candidate in 2024, and I look forward to supporting that many. And you don't think it'll be fitted to the times.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was out campaigning with Ted Cruz. He won all three counties in Indiana that I campaigned with him in. Donald Trump won the other. But you're”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'd just be stepping in the voting path. I may be stepping in Iowa and New Hampshire and South Carolina. And we're going to follow our calling wherever it leads. But I'm absolutely confident. That look, let me say this. I think, I don't think anybody other than Donald Trump could have defeated Hillary Clinton in 2016. I just don't. I was with another candidate in the primary.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I prayed for the grace to approach the waning days of the administration in that spirit. And when the president and I finally sat down a few days later, I just sought to hear him out and to be straightforward with him. Um, Look, I continue to pray for the president. I continue to pray for the grace forgiveness. I want to tell you, with regard to the future, I think we'll have better choices. I understand.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Worked the problem and working with Democrat and Republican leadership We did our duty that day In the days that followed, I understand, and look, I'm Literally in my faith tradition as a Christian We try and pray a prayer almost every day to forgive those who trespass against us. Forgiveness is not optional for a Christian. The Bible says to forgive as the Lord forgave you. And so I didn't merit that.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't want I don't want to pretend about those moments. And in the book, I write about them very candidly. When the tweet came across, rioters were ransacking the capital. Tweet came across at 224 in the afternoon. The president attacking me I was angry His words were reckless. They endangered my family, and they endangered everyone at the capital. In that moment, David, He decided to be part of the problem. I was determined to put that out of my mind. Understood.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I knew we would have what I thought would be a useful debate that could lower the temperature in the country to hear the issues around irregularities, set the table for election reform in the future in states around the country, but acknowledge that there was not sufficient fraud to change the outcome. But in the end, the violence that ensued disrupted all the...”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The president had retweeted something called the pence card right before Christmas that suggested and implied that I could unilaterally decide which electoral votes could be counted and which not And with a heavy heart, I looked at my daughter and just said, My heart went out to those people because I thought they're going to be so disappointed Because I knew there had not been evidence of fraud up to that very hour. Nothing, despite it had been promised, it never materialized.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, and there wasn't evidence of fraud in those cases, but then the Electoral Act properly sponsored motions can be brought and debated. Evidence can be heard. But I remember looking out and I write about it, and so help me God, I remember looking out of the car and I turned to my daughter and saw people that were cheering our motorcade as it arrived that had been.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'll never forget when Karen and I and our daughter Charlotte went with us to the capital on January 6th. And we were pulling into the Capitol in the motorcade right under the steps of the Senate. And I looked out, and people were gathered just beyond a rope line, Peacefully there to Support what would be legal and appropriate. It's important to note Democrats had filed objections to election results in the last three elections where a Republican had prevailed. There was nothing wrong with Republicans filing objections.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think there's no question that the president's rhetoric and that of many of his advisors and allies. Fueled an expectation among the American people ultimately with regard to my”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It would not have changed the outcome of the election, but in Wisconsin, the same goes, but there were, the Supreme Court of Wisconsin found that there had been two different violations of laws with regard to early voting and unsupervised drop boxes. So there were irregularities, but I don't think that there was evidence of fraud in any state that suggested a change in the outcome of the election.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's right. But David, you're an election expert, you know. The Supreme Court sequestered about 8,000 ballots in Pennsylvania that had come in after the statutory deadline, a year after the election.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But I will tell you. I will tell you that I shared the concern of millions of Americans about irregularities. But there was never evidence of widespread fraud, although it was consistently.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It was shortly after Election Day that I encourage the president, if all the legal challenges did not play out to make any difference in the outcome that he should simply accept the result, focus on that upcoming special election in Georgia midterms, and if he wanted to run again, run again.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And Indiana was able to expand and reform Medicaid coverage for some $350,000 Americans. I don't question your heart, and in many respects I share the same conviction you have about I don't ever want any American to go without health care when they need it. But what we were determined to do, and we did in Indiana, in fairness with the support of the Obama administration, was reform Medicaid. We were able to expand it for families, and we called it Healthy Indiana Plan 2.0. And to this day, literally hundreds of thousands of Hoosiers are able to have their own first dollar benefits, a health savings account. They have incentives for weight loss, for quitting smoking. It's improving lives.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But I said, I wanted to reform Medicaid. I wanted to let people have health savings accounts. I wanted people to be able to choose their own doctor and have incentives for better health care. We had a small pilot program in Indiana, and I wanted to expand it. But the Obama administration initially was very opposed to that. But when I spoke to President Obama about it, I'll never forget on the tarmac in Evansville. He looked at me and said, Governor, I'm not philosophically opposed to what you're proposing. And it opened the door for us to work with his agency, the Center for Medicaid and Medicare Services and your administration.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I know you were working hard. We made it clear that we were committed to covering Americans with pre-existing conditions. But let me also say, in the state of Indiana, as you know, and I recount this, I worked with the Obama administration when I was governor. And ultimately had a 15-minute conversation on the tarmac. The Evansville Airport with President Obama because I wanted, I didn't want to just expand Medicaid. Medicaid, we can have a long conversation about the failings of Medicaid.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And as we were working through an effort to repeal and replace Obamacare, which was unsuccessful, I'm candid about that in the book.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, you do. And I heard that analogy a lot of times. I heard it when Mitt Romney carried an earlier version of Obamacare in Massachusetts. But it's a constitutional issue. I just never thought the federal government that our founders designed a government that should order people to buy certain products in the commercial market. That being said, let me say a couple of things.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, first, again, I want to commend you. Your family story has been an inspiration to people around the country. And I'm so glad that Lauren is doing so well and thriving. Thank you. My problem with Obamacare persists to this day I just thought it was wrong to order Americans to buy health insurance, whether they wanted or needed or not. I actually thought it was unconstitutional for the federal government to order you to purchase a commercial product in the form of health insurance. And that was the essence of our objection. By the time it went to the Supreme Court, Chief Justice Roberts and a majority ruled that that was actually a tax, and so it could be passed as a tax.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, as you know, I. I signed the first pre-K funding in the state of Indiana for kids. And I also signed a bill that banned abortion on the basis of sex. Race or disability in the state of Indiana went to the Supreme Court, was not upheld. But I must tell you that as you know very deeply, there are Americans with disabilities that are living rich and fulfilling lives. And I think we do well. I'm the father of one of them.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I think that's up to the people of those states. I just trust the American people to sort this out in a way that's consistent with their values and their aspirations. For me, I'm pro-life, my very core. I just trust that the American people will find a way forward. But I think in addition to moving pro-life legislation and protections, I'm going to continue to be a voice to say we need to be as committed to the newborn as we are to the unborn. We need to have states that are moving pro-life legislation that are also saying we're going to come alongside women who are facing unexpected pregnancies. We're going to help them to that moment of birth. And then we're going to help them after the moment of birth. To me, that's profound.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I do understand. And specifically on the point, as you may know, during my years in Congress, I supported the exceptions for rape and incest in the life of the mother in the Hyde Amendment that was passed again and again in the Congress.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think it played out. But at the end of the day, I've told people in the pro-life movement, it may take us as long to restore the sanctity of life to the center of American law in all 50 states as it took us to overturn Roe v. Wade. For as long as I live, I will be a champion for the unborn and a champion for the sanctity of life. I believe the most prosperous nation in the history of the world. Can welcome our children for either to be raised by their birth families or the forever families through adoption And I welcome the developments this year by the Supreme Court with a great reply.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not on the principle, but the legal foundation on which it was decided. I think it was right for the Supreme Court to return it to the American people. And with regard to the election, I would tell you that My observation is that our candidates who explained their position Fared But those that allowed their position to be defined by capable Democrat candidates and political organizations did not fare as well. I mean, I think the American people Don't begrudge one another of our values. We respect them. But I think that to the extent people in my party allowed their position to be defined in negative terms without saying exactly what their position was on the issue.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, thank you, David. And look, as you said, I'm pro-life. I don't apologize for it. It's a deeply held conviction for me and for my family. And I welcome the decision by the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade because it returned the question of abortion to the states and to the American people where it belonged. Many of the scholars in the room may not know that even Ruth Bader Ginsburg questioned the legal foundation under Roe v. Wade. And she was a great woman and a brilliant mind.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There are broader issues dancer. Well, for law-abiding citizens, I would tell you, I think we need to focus on people that are committing crimes, committing violence, and we need to give law enforcement the tools they need, and we need to have prosecutors that when law enforcement brings them in. Don't just turn them right back out on the street. I think you and I totally agree. We've got to be a country of law and order. And my heart grieves for what the people of Chicago deal with. This is, to me, a very special place, one of the greatest cities in the world. And we have to work together to end this scourge.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But I tell you what, it doesn't get a lot of coverage. Greenwood Park Mall, Indiana. A gunman went into the mall just a few short months ago and had hundreds of rounds of ammunition on him and intended to take a lot of lives. One young man twenty two years old from Shelbyville, Indiana, pulled out his firearm, took the man down, and literally, I think, saved dozens of lives that day. So whether it's in-home protection, I think I will say this, it's a cliche, but it has the benefit of being true, is that the best response to a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. And we showed that in Indiana, and I do believe at the end of the day”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But we need more infrastructure, institutional mental health care, so that families that have a troubled family member have somewhere to send them to get help.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's a big part of it. The second piece is, and this is something I know we agree on, when I was governor of Indiana, one of my last official acts was we broke ground on the first mental health hospital to be built in Indiana in 30 years. What I heard from people in law enforcement was that they would, whenever they would get involved with someone with a serious mental health issue, maybe a minor criminal offense, but then they'd realize they were dealing. There was nowhere to send them except the county lockup.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“My uncle, he was one of my heroes when we'd come up and visit family, he'd come walking out of the back room wearing his uniform. Me and my three brothers would just look up at him and just admire him. And I still hold police officers in the same regard everywhere I go in the country. They are the best men and women in this nation. But I do believe that some common sense reforms that would allow law enforcement officers to lean into efforts. I know it's not particularly popular for many on the left, but stop and frisk laws that allow police officers with probable cause to intervene if there's someone who is walking down the street and looks like they're headed for trouble. It made a big difference in the city of New York. Your old hometown. I think those kind of changes and broad support for law enforcement.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“the reflexive tendency to assume the worst in a law enforcement crisis has undermined the ability of law enforcement personnel to do their job and also some common sense things. Mike, you know, you kind of mentioned my family. My uncle Phil was a police officer here in Chicago for 25 years. In fact, I met somebody at the Union League yesterday who served with them. He was on Mayor Harold Washington's security detail.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I will say, although it didn't get a lot of coverage, as you know, David, because you follow these things closely, we actually passed bipartisan legislation in the wake of Marjorie Stoman Douglas that was endorsed by the Sandy Hook Parents Association and the NRA. Strengthened background chance provided by enforcement. I think what I can tell you I hear around the country is really two things that may be common ground. Number one is that I hear from law enforcement officers everywhere I go that That there's the waning support of law enforcement in this country.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, David, I appreciate the sincerity of your sense of this. And for me, it really begins with first principles. The right of law-abiding citizens to keep and bear arms is enshrined in the Constitution of the United States. And I'm as passionate about the Second Amendment as I am about the First Amendment And we have to meet this moment without compromising. The rights of law-abiding Americans. That being said, I write a fair amount of it because Karen and I, it was our duty to travel to Sutherland Springs, Texas after a man had walked into a church and opened fire during Sunday morning services. Unspeakable act of violence. Marjorie Stoneman Douglas school shooting that took place during our administration.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Think the United States of America needs to send an unambiguous message that we will stand with the freedom fighters in Ukraine until Russia withdraws or is defeated on their land. And thanks for your voice on that”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Look, I don't Look, our administration is the only administration so far in the 21st century where Russia did not attempt to redraw international lines by force. Under the Bush administration, they rolled tanks into Georgia. Under the Obama administration, of course, Crimea. Of course, we're all continuing to witness the heartbreaking savagery of Russia, military invasion of Ukraine.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And then he proceeded in Russian to say that we had nothing to do with that. That wasn't our government. And I said I said, Mr. President, I'm very aware of what your position is on this. But I want you to know that we know what happened in 2016 and it can't happen again. And I would tell you that thanks to our intelligence services leaning into the effort, beginning in the 2018 midterm elections, I can't get into it, but we've marshalled a much more effective response against Russian meddling. But Russia did not collude with either campaign”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They do. And they did that here. And when I met with Putin, he asked for a private meeting when we were in Singapore. And I was representing the United States at a conference. We had what we call a pull aside, and he spoke to me about an upcoming summit, and he talked about the need to have a new nuclear... And I looked at him and I said, Well, President Putin, I have something I'd like to say to you And he said, in Russian, go ahead. And I said, we know what happened in 2016 and it can't happen again. At that point, he began to. Feign ignorance. He looked at Lavrov, his foreign Secretary said, What's he talking? I heard Lavrov say in English elections.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But the theory that, and you know, I spoke at a cyber conference in New York City. Made it very clear that Russia meddled in the 2016 election. It's not a debatable point. Our intelligence services confirm that. But it wasn't on behalf of any particular candidate, and it was not in collusion with either campaign. It was to sow discord. This is what Russia does in free societies to destabilize government.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So I think both parties need to, let's strengthen laws about election integrity, let's make sure every vote counts in America, and then let's stand down after elections on questioning the outcome of free and fair elections in the United States in both parties.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Okay, she conceded, then she said the election was stolen for the next three years. We literally had many in certain arteries in the mainstream media propagating what came to be a completely baseless allegation. Collusion with a foreign power and questioning the legitimacy of our...”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I believe that people that were focused on the last election, that were challenging the legitimacy of the last election, did not fare well. But this election denial issue to me is an important one. To put it in context. January 6th was a tragic day. But thanks to the courage of Capitol Hill Police, federal officials, we quelled the violence, and Republicans and Democrats reconvened on the very same day, and we completed our work under the Constitution of the United States of America. And I'll always be humbled to have been a small part of that. And so I've made it very clear what my view was of the rhetoric both before that tragic day and the rhetoric that's followed. But I think it's also fair, David, to say that in the four years of our administration, Hillary Clinton said that our election had been stolen.”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But our candidates that were focused on the past, particularly those that were focused on relitigating the last election, did not fare as well. And so it's one of the reasons why when I was campaigning for Governor Brian Camp in a primary that was really decided along those fault lines, one was about questioning the last election, and Governor Kemp was simply about talking about an extraordinary record of accomplishment in the future. I said then, for the Republican Party to prevail, we need to be the party of the future. And I think our candidates that succeeded proved that”
2022-12-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 513 — Mike Pence · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source