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Mohan Gyani

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“Operation subsystems. This operation platforms, if we build them on a new modern architecture that supports real-time telemetry, the idea for you to get information and real-time information about every element, every node that you have into your network, be able to correlate them, be able to apply AI, machine learning on top of them requires modern age platforms, but it is so critical because my dream was, I think our success will be celebrated not because of open random, that's the big mistake. I'm not really celebrating that we just did OpenRAN. I think many people don't realize that I think the grander vision is I want to be talked about, not hysteric, of course, I'm talking about Zrakatan.”
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“And especially if you worked in an adjacent vertical in an industry such as in hyperscalers, an internet-facing company, you will be scratching your head to say, I cannot believe this is how networks are managed today, despite the elegance of the Gs and changing from one to five, but the process of managing a network is as archaic as you would ever imagine. The idea of a true customer experience management is aloof. It's still a dream that nobody has enabled. So the first thing I wanted to do is to change this paradigm, the paradigm of having thousands, thousands of disaggregated tool sets to manage a network into a consolidated platform was an idea that, frankly speaking, I couldn't drive NGO. So that's the first fundamental block. These building blocks for new architecture next generation of OSS”
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“There's two things I would tell you I couldn't do in Geo, and maybe it's not the fault of anybody. Maybe it is just the maturity of the timing that maybe the timing wasn't right. So number one that I wanted to change. If you look at building a mobile network, everybody, I think, now more or less understands that you need antennas, you need base stations, you need radio access, core network infrastructure. But unless you are into this industry, you don't realize the complexity of the operation tools that one needs in order to run and manage this distributed massive infrastructure. So the first thing I wanted to change in Geo is the traditional architecture. This management layer is called OSS. OSS layers is, oh my God, archaic is a maybe I'm too polite to say archaic.”
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“Just broadly, it sounds like okay, you're gonna take the management playbook that made Geo work at a lower cost and now you're lowering those costs even further with the technology of ORN or you're proving out of technology that will one day enable further lower costs.”
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“You went and said, okay, we've got to actually integrate instead of buying off the shelf. We've got to integrate our products and find lower chipset costs and make our own products. We've got to build a new way to deploy the network more efficiently with our technicians. That's just really good management. Like to your credit, those are excellent management moves. They're not technology moves, I would say, like at their core, right? They're management moves. Now you're on to Rakuten. You're saying I'm going to build ORAN. That's a technology play, right? Yeah. So the way I would.”
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“Its cost structure and it's able to offer for free because A, it had a really, really amazing partnership with suppliers that secured great business terms, simplification of technology, LTE only, and an amazing process about network rollout all played a huge factor in lowering the cost and economics for Geo.”
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“You guys, you're becoming too dangerous, and this is where everything starts clicking, everything. So I went to the chairman of GO, and as I said to you, he was not afraid to think also the way I wanted to think. I said, look, I want to build our own Wi-Fi access point. I said, if we build an access point at $1,000, I am now convinced I could get you an access point at a sub one hundred dollars. And so this is how it started. And in fact, you know, a year later, the total cost of the Wi-Fi access point that we build in Gio cost $35. So when you think about this delta between 1,000 and 35, you know, translate in a substantial amount of money saved to us. And this is where it started. So it started by disaggregating everything.”
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“Trivial question open both boxes, write the part numbers. I had a really great friends in Qualcomm. I asked him, and I remember this gentleman said to me, hysteric, you are becoming too dangerous. You're the mar”
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“And you're not pounder in this, and I was told that Teric, money doesn't grow on trees in India. You need to know the cost. To know the cost, you must understand the component cost. I mean, so this was the first building block. So I said, okay, next time I come to this meeting, I am not going to be uneducated anymore. And so I've taken a small project at the time. To me, it did not seem outacious. I said, look, If I go to an electronic shop in the US, a Best Buy, you and I could buy a Wi-Fi access point $100. But if I buy an enterprise access point from a large supplier, it costs $1,000. And I wanted to know what is the difference. So I hired five of the best university graduates one could ask for. And I asked them at the”
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“And the question that I get asked, someone asked me, Tarek, I love your strategy. Can you tell me who is the chipset supplier in the small cell product? I'm like, what are you talking about? See, this question, and if someone asks you the chipset supplier I have never been asked such a question in any operator that I have ever worked for outside of India.”
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“Much you charge a mobile customer, you know, I wanted to find a different way of how the network should be deployed. So I would tell you the story that changed everything in my life in Gio. One of the key products when you build a network like Geo that has to support 1.3 billion, first of all, it's not just about these big massive radio sites you deploy, but we need things called small sales. The small sales, consider them are products that look like Wi-Fi access point, but you deploy lots of them to achieve what we call in the industry the heterogeneous design, design that has big sites, small sites to meet capacity and coverage requirement. So I prepared an amazing presentation about small sales to the leadership team of GO. And I thought I kicked it out of the park.”
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“Associated with connecting everybody in India, whether it is geo employees, its contractors, its distributed organization, and I think over 300-400,000 people at an instant of time would come to the systems that my team has built. That changed everything. It changed the mentality of how we drive cost efficiency and how we run the operations. And this is where I would tell you big building blocks started formulating in my mind around automation and its impact to operational efficiency if you approach it with a completely fundamental point of view from the current legacy systems that you would find in other telcos. The second thing I also start to wonder, because of the constraint of financial pressure on what we call the average revenue per user, the ARPU, which is the measurement of”
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“Terms of this idea of building network at a cost that's relatively low, and I'm going to explain how this open-ran idea came in. So during that tenure in GEO, I started really thinking about to build network at scale, regardless of how cheap your labor is, you need to fundamentally change your operating platforms for digitization. So think about at the time Gio would have north of 100,000 people in one day working in the field, deploying sites. Now, how do you manage 100,000 people where you give them tasks, orders? Check on the quality of installation they do, and audit the work before you turn up any of what is called the base stations aside or the radio units. And one of the things that I've done is to drive this entire digitization and the digital workflows”
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“Sometimes there's a better way to do this. Sometimes you find larger companies that CEOs have emotion and connection to the idea that you're building and are willing to work with you as a true partner. And so one of the key fundamental pillars I learned from Gio is not everything. It's about status quo, status quo on how you run supply or selection, vendor selection, request for proposal and everything, everything starts from top leadership of partners you select and your ability and their ability to connect about the emotional journey because it is an emotional journey after all to go do something like this at the scale of what do you want it to do. So I would tell you that my biggest lessons learned is the process of selecting suppliers who are just uniquely different, uniquely different. You know, second, I think in”
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“For me, that's not internet services. So the foundation of what Geo started with is number one, and I'll tell you the big things that I've learned. Most people think that the way you achieve best pricing is through a process called request for proposals and reverse options to bring vendors and partners to compete and bid against each other.”
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“Said this is an opportunity, I just cannot pass. It was much bigger than financial reward. It was an opportunity of learning and understanding. I truly, utterly enjoy, you know, meeting different cultures. I've always loved this. I just like where the more I interact with people from different parts of the world, the more it just kind of fueled the energy inside me. So I picked myself up and I moved to India. I landed in, I remember in the Mumbai old airport at the time. I powered my device. I see a symbol in the device I haven't seen in the US for a decade, which is a 2G symbol at the time. And I knew then what is the opportunity in front of GEO if we do this right. So 2GU in India at the time was that the ubiquitous technology, think about it. If you have 2G, what is really the definition of broadband is like, you know, 256 kilobits per second. I mean, this is really not.”
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“The more he talked, the more I just wanted to listen. I was really, really amazed by his ambition to what he wanted to achieve in the country. And at the end of the conversation, he told me. Mukashambani. I mean, I would tell you from a lot of people I worked with, I've learned quite a bit from him. I work quite a bit from him. His viewpoint is India was ranked 154th in the world in mobile broadband penetration before Reliance Geo. So the idea was, can we bring an assemble, an organization, a structure that takes India from 154th in the world and bringuituous connectivity everywhere and anywhere you go across the country? Can 1.3 billion people benefit from this massive transformation by offering cutting-edge services at the time, by the way, LTE was the service that the Geo launched with. So for me personally, I mean, I was really, really amazed by this ambition and how big it was.”
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“I would tell you just a one minute prelude. I was sitting in very comfortably, by the way, in Newport Beach, and I get a call from my friend. And he was asking me if I would be interested to go to India and be part of the leadership team to build this ambitious, audacious idea, to build a massive network at scale in a country that has north of 1.3 billion people. So, you know, I mean, my first reaction to him was, I mean, what do I know about India? I have colleagues that I know, but I've never really been there. But he's encouraged me to go and meet the executive leadership team of Reliance Geo. And I have to tell you, I had during the conversation, I went and did that because it seemed really an interesting opportunity. So I remember I flew to Dallas and I had a conversation with three leaders. At the time, I'd not really know who they are. One of them in particular, I have to tell you,”
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“But I think in certain projects, I do really think that this idea of no plan B is something that has merits to how you adopt your leadership style in approaching projects before thinking about, hey, you know, this project might not work. So what's the other option?”
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“I have taken some really, really tough calls, by the way. During my life, my career. For whatever reason, I wasn't really worried about the consequences of failure because I think sometimes we learn more from the mistakes we make. We learn more by having through the tough experiences, whether it's personal or professional. So I would think my decision-making capability is one that really is very bold about trying to make the team believe in the objectives that we're trying to accomplish and not have to worry about failure. Sometimes you just need to be focused on the idea and the mission. And yes, the results are important, but that's not the only thing I was married to. I've operated like this all my life and so far I'm really happy with some of the thinking that I've adopted, but I'm certainly tell you, I'm not advocating that people should not have options in their life.”
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“At a concept I call no plan B for me. Any project I have taken, I really go into it not thinking that this project will fail thus I need to look at alternative and options. So I am absolutely not worried about making big bold decisions. I live by a basic philosophy that it is sometimes okay to fail, but let's fail fast, pick ourselves and progress. I also would tell you that, and I'm not advocating that people should not have option A and option B, but for me personally, I felt that if I planned from the beginning of what option B might look like, I would give my mind the opportunity to entertain that there is an escape clause. And when you work on ambitious projects, I think having an escape clause maybe in the beginning, not necessarily a good thing. I think you need to be convicted about your beliefs, your ideas.”
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“I have to tell you, and I know this might sound a little bit controversial, but I have to tell you, I In any project I have taken, and I remember this even from my early early days, I know we always been taught that when you look at big ambitious things and big projects, you're always taught that you have to plan for plan A and then plan for plan B. And I tell you this never worked with me. I always look”
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“Is I want to take that in stages. I definitely want to talk about Geo, which is a really interesting foundational element of this whole story. I want to talk about what you've built with ORAN and how that works in the industry. And I want to talk about where it could go as a platform for other network providers. But I got to ask you the decoder question first. You've described your ideas as super crazy like five times now. You're the CEO of a big wireless rider in Japan. You're selling that stuff to other CEOs. How do you make decisions?”
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“To build future, resilient, scalable, cost effective mobile networks. So this is the high-level story of how this journey started. It really, really started with, I mean, a super crazy ambitious idea, an idea that nobody thought that we would succeed. Everybody, if you read four years ago, some of the press release that was published, I cannot tell you how many times I was told I'm crazy, I'm going to fail, this is not going to succeed. But I don't know. I mean, as I said to you, we became fanatic about this idea. And I think that's what drove us all to emotionally connect to the mission, the objective. And I'm very, very happy to see the results that the team has achieved.”
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“Got obsessed about this idea, obsessed. And for four years, driving very hard by creating a world-class organization, creating a larger ecosystem, getting everybody cultivated, motivated about this idea and concept that four years ago did not necessarily exist. And here we are. You know, we are now post-commercial launch. The world is celebrating what we have done. they like and enjoy the ideas around this disaggregated network. They love the concept of cloud native architecture. And then it became, and what I love the most that we opened up a healthy debate across the globe, including what we saw and really encourage and support what Dish is doing in the United States by deploying open RAN as an architecture. I think this is absolutely the right platform.”
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“Was really around number one, adopting this cloud architecture, which is unique. Nobody have really deployed an end-to-end horizontal cloud across Anitelco at the time. Second, maybe you have heard of the industry that's been excited talking about this thing called OpenRAN and the idea of this hardware, software disaggregation. And third for me, and I told everybody, I said, with my dream, ultimately, whether it is cloud, whether it's OpenRAN, the dream is the enablement of full autonomous network, a network that is able to heal itself, run itself, fix itself with no human beings. And this is the journey of mobile, Neelay. I think this is what differentiated so much about what we have done. We went into this journey. And I cannot tell you, I had a recipe that defined what success would equal light, but I can't describe it to you. I mean, I...”
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“And I know there was a big sponsor of FC Barcelona. So that I knew as much. And when Mickey starts explaining about the company fabric, its DNA, its internet services, I really, really thought, what a significant opportunity he has if he adopts a very different architecture and how these networks are deployed, one that moves away from this proprietary hardware. And what happens if we remove hardware completely and build the world first and only cloud native software telco? And at the time, this was just in PPT. I mean, let me be really honest with you. It's just an idea that I conceived thinking, what would I do different had I been granted an opportunity like Reliance Geo, looking at the cost structure that we have spent in Geo? And one of the key element that I wanted to change”
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“This industry has been nothing but about I call it hardware changes. You take old hardware, you replace it with no hardware. And as the G's changes, even here we are in 2022, nothing has changed on the way we deploy network. It's still complex, too expensive. I don't think the essence of AI and autonomy exist into the DNA of the network. Long story short, that's why when you look at the cost expenditures to build new technology like 5G, I think it is really cost prohibitive. So by coincidence, I met the chairman and CEO of Rakatan Group, Miki Mikitani, and I really loved everything about what Rakatan is all about. You know, at the time, I didn't, like, like most people, of course, I didn't know necessarily who Racketan was. I just knew who Rakatan because I love football, soccer.”
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“You go into a country that the basis and the economic units on how much you could charge a consumer is one to two US dollars. You know, the idea of supply chain procurement and cost has to change. I mean, you have to find a way to build a cost-efficient network. So I've done a lot of very, very disruptive products in India. We've launched very successfully. It became a really good sender story for the industry. And I am extremely thankful for what happened to me in India and extremely thankful for what Geo have taught me personally. And I always wondered if I get a second opportunity to build a greenfield. What would I do different? So to give you perspective and everybody that's listening to this podcast perspective, you know, if you really look at mobile technology, since the inception of the first one G in nineteen eighty one.”
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“To give you maybe a bit of background, maybe we should start, if you don't mind, talking a little bit about the mobile business in Japan, because really this is the foundation, how this idea initially started from. So, you know, I would tell you I have had a super crazy life. I am really blessed that I had the opportunity to work with amazing leaders. I worked across three continents so far. I've been into 22 geographies. My previous experience before coming to Japan building another large greenfield in India called Reliance Geo have taught me quite a bit, by the way. It caught me the value of the US dollar, to be very frank with you.”
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“Yeah, one of the reasons I think you and I are having this conversation is Dish Network in the United States is a symphony customer. They're launching a next generation 5G network. I've been very curious about how that's going. It sounds like Symphony is a big piece of the puzzle there.”
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“Yeah, Symphony itself is much more than just wireless. Of course, it has a cloud connectivity, edge cloud connectivity architecture. It had the wireless technology stack for 4G, 5G, lifecycle management for automation and operation. So it is the platform that the basis of Symphony was the technology that Racket and Mobile launched in Japan. And in August of last year, we launched Racket and Symphony as a formal entity to take all the technology now and promote it to global customer base.”
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“ID across the seventy one internet services, so the companies and the organizations internally have subsidiaries and legal structures that would separate all of them, but yet, synergistically, they are connected through this membership points loyalty system, which we think is really, really critical to grow the synergistic impact of not just one services, but the collective services to the end consumer. So today Racket and Mobile is a subsidiary of the group. Most recently, Racket and Symphony, which is really more focused on our platform business, taking the technology and the architecture that we have done in Japan and focus more on globalization of this technology, selling it and promoting it to global customers.”
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“Well, if you think of all the entities today, I think from the founder and chairman of the company, Mickey, is probably one of the most innovative leaders I have ever had the opportunity to work with. I cannot tell you how much I enjoy the interaction we have with him down to earth, his leadership style is definitely hands-on. He doesn't really operate at a high level. The fundamental belief of Rathatan is around synergistic impact for its ecosystem. So if you think about the company with its 71 internet facing services in Japan, and by the way, we also operate globally, you as a consumer have one membership ID that you benefit from. So the points, membership, loyalty is the foundation of what this company works on. So regardless of which services you consume, we tie all of these services through this unique”
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“Correct. I mean, think of Amazon. I mean, what would happen if Amazon launched a mobile banquet in the US? It's really racket and operates at this scale in Japan. And maybe this is the best analogy I would give you, is having a company with a destructive mindset, disruptive skill set, disruptive culture, disruptive organization, and the company endorsed my super crazy idea of how we should build this next generation mobile infrastructure. And I think that's why I attribute most of the success is the company DNA and culture is just remarkably different.”
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“Only the Rakatun group as a whole is definitely, I would say, not a telecom company. It is mostly an internet services company. The company started as an e-commerce, one of the earliest e-commerce technology companies in Japan. Today it is one of the largest e-commerce, largest fintech banking, travel. So a significant internet services primarily built around a massive ecosystem in Japan and the only missing piece for racketin as a group was the mobile connectivity business and that's why I came to Japan to help Rakutan build and launch a disruptive architecture for its mobile 4G, 5G network in this country.”
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“I am very excited to talk to you. I have been very curious about this next generation of wireless networks that's being built. Racketton Mobile is one of the leaders in those next generation networks. But we got to start at the beginning. Racketton's a Japanese company. Racketton Mobile is in Japan. We have a largely US-based audience. So just to start, can you explain what Racketent is, what kind of company it is, and its presence in Japan”
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“Are virtual and let you switch carriers by just pushing a button on the screen. The 5G networks use a radio technology called massive Memo. That's a real name. Memo stands for multiple input, multiple output. It allows for sending and receiving multiple data signals simultaneously. Mimo has been used in cell networks since 3G, but with 5G it works at an even larger scale, so massive Memo, this is real. Tarek talks about building small cells and big cells. The big cells are just traditional cell towers, and small cells are exactly what they sound like. They're just smaller access points, but you can put more of them in the dense area like a city and get better coverage. Okay, I think that's enough notes. Here's Terra Kamin, CEO of Rakuten Mobile and Rakuten Symphony. Here we go.”
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“To cloud services like Amazon AWS. Now I've covered the mobile industry for years and these are all very conservative companies that do not like to take risks on unproven technology, which is fair because the investment tool the network is massive. But Tarek pushed through and built the world's first ORED network in Japan with Rakuten Mobile. He says his operating costs are 40% cheaper than his competitors, and he promises that Rakuten Mobile will deliver vastly lower latency on its network because it controls the software. In fact, Terk doesn't employ any hardware engineers at all. Rakuten Mobile is all software people. That's remarkable. What's more, since Rackett Mobile is making all the software that can run on open hardware, they can sell it to other people. So Terric is also the CEO of Rackatin Symphony, which you guessed it, is helping Dish run its network here along with another network called One-in-one in Germany.”
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“Proprietary software, and all of that forms a radio access network, which the carrier manages, or much more likely, signs a lucrative service contract for those companies to manage. Tarek's big idea is an open radio access network to break apart the hardware and software and make it so that many more vendors can build radio access hardware that Racket 10 Mobile can run its own software on. Think about it like a Mac versus a PC. A Mac is Apple hardware running Apple software while a PC can come from anyone and run Windows just fine. Or run another operating system if you want. That's the promise of ORAN, that it will increase competition and lower costs for cellular base station hardware, allow there to be more software innovation, and generally make networks faster and more reliable, because operators like Raggaton Mobile will be in tighter control of the software that runs the networks, and even move some of that software from the hardware itself”
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“Today, I'm talking to Tarek Amin, CEO of Rakuten Mobile. Rakuten Mobile is a new wireless carrier in Japan. It just launched in 2020. It's also the world's first Beren network, and Tarek basically pushed this whole concept into existence. Now, Tarek has a long history in the mobile business. He's an engineer who has run engineering groups at T-Mobile and Huawei, which provides a lot of equipment to the wireless industry. And importantly, he helped launch the Reliance Geo Network in India in 2016, which quickly became the dominant Indian wireless carrier by offering low-cost 4G LTE service. Now he's doing it again with Rakuten Mobile, and the bet he's making is on ORAM. Here's the deal with ORAN. Right now, a wireless carrier like AT&T or Verizon runs its network on proprietary hardware from vendors like Nokia, Ericsson, ZTE, and Huawei. Those are the big four. You buy their proprietary base stations, they run their”
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