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Nadine Dorries

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first: 2022-05-13
most recent: 2022-05-13
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“Gentle, would they? Political campaigning is very different to real life. So, you know, as I've said, I spent the first, I spent many years in opposition. I'm a political street fighter. I fought to get the Conservatives back into power. You'll see some of that on occasion. And, you know, my party wants me to go out and do that on occasion. So, you know, that tweet to Keir Starmer had 8 million views. So of course the party want me to keep doing it. And I do. And I put out whatever it is that I'm asked to put out.”
2022-05-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nadine Dorries One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh gosh Nick don't So, to my detriment To my huge fault. I follow my heart probably too often. And, you know, that makes me not a clever politician because most politicians follow their head. And, you know, if I haven't learned to change and to alter that balance after 17 years, I don't think I'm ever going to. So I may as well give up trying.”
2022-05-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nadine Dorries One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But the person who wrote that review was a member, a Catholic member of Opus Day, and my first book had a child abuse and Catholic priesthood.”
2022-05-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nadine Dorries One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So I think it's, you know, I spent 17, 16 years, 15 years as a backbench MP, never thinking that I wanted to be a secretary of state. Interestingly, now I've got here, I've realized what a privileged and what a valuable position I have. And the reason why I'm doing it right now is if I can leave my job and I get something like the online safety bill through and I can prevent those harmful algorithms directing children towards those awful suicide chat rooms and other things that I don't want to mention. If I can stop children being bullied 24 hours a day, if I can do something myself to stop all the racism and the hatred and the bullying that happens online, I'll keep going until I can do that.”
2022-05-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nadine Dorries One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, what would you say was the right approach we should take then? Just do nothing and let children take their lives every day? You know, the suicide rate during the pandemic actually didn't go up at all. It went down slightly. But there was one group where it rose and it rose significantly. And that was in the age band was something like 14 to 24. That was in young people. And the influence of what happens online plays into that. Are you saying, are they saying we should just do nothing and let that continue?”
2022-05-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nadine Dorries One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Have all the powers in the world they want right now. And while they have all those powers in the world, they are daily harming our children.”
2022-05-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nadine Dorries One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's a load of nonsense. So, the reason why it didn't happen, Nick, was because it needed a fighter to make it happen. But it also needed someone to be able to push through what was essential reform because what happens online now cannot continue had to happen to our children and young people. Now, when you talk about people in my party, I've got to address the points that you've raised. When you talk about people in my party, you are talking about a handful of people. It's just passed through second reading without a vote. There are a handful of libertarians in my party who I don't think have even read the bill, who have taken the bill and made incorrect assumptions about it. They say that it impedes free speech. It actually enhances free speech. They make comments like I'm giving online platforms the power to take down content online arbitrarily. They do that now.”
2022-05-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nadine Dorries One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, actually, to be honest, I'm absolutely honest with you, none of that has even come into my consciousness. So there were two things really. It's always been about kids for me. You know, even as a nurse, even in my business, it's like my business, which was childcare has always been about kids. My role in mental health, hearing about the impact on children. And as soon as I got into this bill and realised that we could do stuff, some awful stuff happening to kids, you know, photographs being airdropped onto their phones of awful pornography.”
2022-05-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nadine Dorries One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Into their homes, into their bedrooms, on their mobile phones, and 24 hours a day pervasive and terrible influence on young people's lives.”
2022-05-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nadine Dorries One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And so I was in health before I got to this job. And one of my roles as a health minister was to receive the prevention of future death reports from coroners, which broke my heart. I would read reports from coroners about young people who had taken their own life because harmful algorithms on a social media platform had taken them down some very dark pathways on the social media platforms that they were on. You know, I'm a mum. I've got three kids. I mean, they're grown up now. They're all, you know, young adults, but it literally broke my heart to read some of this. I was the Minister of Mental Health. And so I spoke to young people and I heard constantly stories about how bullying no longer is left at the school gate, how bullying follows young people and young children home.”
2022-05-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nadine Dorries One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Okay, so when I arrived in the department, this is a bill that is being kicked into the long grass by many people who've gone before me in that department.”
2022-05-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nadine Dorries One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I know there are people listening to this who probably about to throw stuff at the radio. But he is the person who took us through Brexit. He's taken us through COVID. He gave us the first vaccine. He's taken us out of the pandemic. He's in the war. Thank you for the party political broadcast laboratory. Well, it's not, it actually underpins the reasons why I am such a loyal supporter of the Prime Minister. We have the right leader for some very troubled times. And I would not like to think”
2022-05-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nadine Dorries One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, but I cry. You're front, you cry. I know. I cry all the time because I actually thought I knew he would be a great leader”
2022-05-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nadine Dorries One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That was, you know, but because I know him, I couldn't see him ever doing anything that would make me, would sever my loyalty. Because fundamentally, you know, I know the Prime Minister well and Carrie and the kids. And he's a kind. Sometimes I think too kind, a kind person. I think it's kind to a fault, actually, sometimes.”
2022-05-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nadine Dorries One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That'd be it. Being a dog lover, yeah, yeah, there are many. Well, yeah, there are things. Of course, there are things he could do.”
2022-05-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nadine Dorries One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, actually, do you know what? I've never thought of it like that. But yeah, you're right. It was patronising and he treated me as though I was an equal. He treated all of my intake in 2005 as though we were, he didn't patronise this one little bit. And I think right from then I was kind of like, yeah, you're a decent bloke.”
2022-05-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nadine Dorries One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, when he arrived in Westminster, he couldn't have been more welcoming to all of us, to the new intake in two thousand five, couldn't have been more open, couldn't have been more friendly or helpful. I couldn't say that about David Cameron, George Osborne. I felt like I was expected to feel as though I was talking to greatness. I felt as though I should feel lucky to be in their company or that they were giving you their time. Whereas Boris wasn't like that one little bit. And right from the beginning, he kind of, there was a fundamental difference. He was a kind human being. And that's the thing.”
2022-05-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nadine Dorries One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There's a fundamental difference between there's a reason why David Cameron, George Osborne are not mates, but you're never going to see them at the dinner together. And there's a reason why... Yeah, so bias is completely different. Now, I think Barris had his own tough times actually growing up. And when I arrived in Westminster,”
2022-05-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nadine Dorries One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You put your finger on the pulse, and I think I did at the time. I think my frustration was the frustration of half of the nation boiling over at that point.”
2022-05-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nadine Dorries One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I think that was true, you know? So they were the ultimate posh boys. And actually, do you know what? I wish I hadn't used the word posh. I wish I'd used the word privileged because I just kind of became really frustrated with the fact that they weren't listening. They weren't listening to what even their own backbenchers wanted to say. And there was just stuff, you know, I didn't agree with that they were doing at the time. And I just, I think my frustration just boiled over. And actually at the time, you know, you might say what I said was aggressive. But, you know, some of your colleagues, you might have even been one of them, said to me, you've actually said something that's put a finger on the pulse of the nation. You've said what people are thinking at the time. So, you know, you criticise me for saying it, but other people said...”
2022-05-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nadine Dorries One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right to buy was kind of like right in my heart. That's what happened to me. That's what I experienced. That was what made the difference to my life and to my family's life. But, you know, I did grow up. I was working in the Royal Liverpool Teaching Hospital on A&E the night of the Toxter riots. I did see what were the Derek Hatton, the, I've got to call you what they called now, it was Momentum, it was militant. Outside holding banners saying, break the law, not the poor. You know, we did take over 300 admissions that night in through the doors. I did kind of work in the heart of those awful political times and I did also see what Margaret Thatcher did. Now, some people were saying, Margaret Thatcher did nothing for Liverpool, but she did a lot for the country.”
2022-05-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nadine Dorries One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Was something that Margaret Thatcher did. And she put her hand down into our councillor estates and she lifted us all up onto a ladder out of poverty. She allowed people like my mum, who and my dad, who had been paying council tax rent to the council for many years to just literally convert that from that day onwards into and to continue paying what was to the council their rent and to be able to do that and that became in effect a mortgage payment. They were given the right to buy their council houses. I know and the impact and the effect of that was amazing.”
2022-05-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nadine Dorries One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, I think one of the big opportunities for us when I was growing up, and for all of, you know, I'm still friends with the people I grew up on, on the councillor state that I grew up as a kid, that I would still say they're my closest, you know, heart-to-heart friends. And I think the one thing that changed for all of us.”
2022-05-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nadine Dorries One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, no, no. Let me address both of those points. So the first one was you're talking about 2008. Which was that kind of exploded me onto the public scene really, which was when I tried to reduce the upper limit at which abortion takes place legally from 24 to 20 weeks, I would still do that. I would vote for that in a heartbeat. So I think it's impossible the situation that we have in the UK where in one room, in a hospital, you will have a doctor's fighting to save a baby born at 24 weeks. And in the next room, you will have a baby being a boss at 24 weeks. I still think that's a bizarre situation. But I am also pro-choice. I also believe it is wrong that you have to have two doctor's signatures that a woman has to go and have two signatures to have an abortion up to a certain point. I actually think it's absolutely wrong that a woman has to explain why she wants to have an abortion. I think abortion should be just automatic for those women.”
2022-05-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nadine Dorries One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, yeah, it is, I suppose. But I grew up in heavily influenced by religion. I do believe in God. I do believe that there is to be, there has to be something else other than us. And I do believe in that. But I think I was probably much religious, more religious when I was younger. And I think probably religion was something that I was looking for answers in. Yeah, I'm definitely not as religious as I was, but I'm still a believer. I wouldn't describe myself as, you know, I'm not a churchgoer. I'm not, but I'm still a believer.”
2022-05-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nadine Dorries One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“If you're talking about politically, you know, don't forget I spent five years in opposition and I spent my politically active years in opposition while Labour were in power.”
2022-05-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nadine Dorries One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, and I've often thought that there are a number of things that happened in my young years. I think I had a pretty rough time. And there are a number of things that happened, and I think they've made me slightly. And I know that, and I'm apologizing for it all the time. I know it's made me slightly defensive. And I do try very hard to catch you.”
2022-05-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nadine Dorries One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So I think when you have unexpected loss in your life, because my brother then died, my only brother, my only sibling, died, in a road accident not long after. And so there were four of us growing up, and my cousin also took his own lives. So I had three unexpected losses in rapid succession, which I think they do impact on you and I think they make you defensive and I don't know why and I think they make you Yeah, always wary, always looking over your shoulder, always wondering, you know, even after the passage of time, you're always wondering what is going to come along and punch you in the face next. And even though nothing is because actually, you know, touch wood, you had your really awful times back then, you're still always waiting for life to come across and just smack you in the face.”
2022-05-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nadine Dorries One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, yeah, it was actually pretty awful, to be honest. So my parents divorced. My parents divorce my father and I we were very close and he was 42 and I went to I was I started my nurse training and I went to work and I used to do I was doing my nights seven nights on and seven nights off and so I went to work and my father put the milk bottles out and went to bed and then I got back seven days later I couldn't get in through the front door. The safety chain was on as I opened the front door. It was banging against the chain and the police came out to help me in and I could see his jacket was on the back of the chair where it always was and his shoes and the police went to the kitchen and I ran into the bedroom and I found him dead and he died just after I left work seven days earlier.”
2022-05-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nadine Dorries One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh, so I wouldn't want people to have to go back to what we experienced. But did the baby go with the bathwater? So I think it did. There is definitely an element of that community support. You know, my father-in-law was to be my father-in-law was dying and my mother-in-law had to go out and work. I'm talking about, you know, when I was a child and other neighbours would go in and they'd bath him and feed him and look after him so she could earn money just to put food on the table. I don't think that degree of community exists today. I don't think if someone wanted to die at home and another person had to work, that people would go in and do that today. But then nor would I want people to be in that position where they had to depend on others. Do that for them. So it's a bit of a double sided.”
2022-05-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nadine Dorries One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, so there was another side to the story, and by the way, just on the bookshops bit, so the major supermarkets are probably my biggest sellers. And thank you to James Daunt. So, yeah, there was, I wouldn't say it's a nostalgia, but we were all poor. We were dirt poor. And in those that kind of environment, communities do tend to pull together. So in our street particularly, there was someone who had a pan that fell off the back of a ship. And on a Wednesday night, which was a poor night, everybody would contribute something into that pan. And it would just be a scouse of sorts. And as kids, we would all go down to that house to have our tea. And that's where we, because it was cooked in one kitchen, in one big pan. People did really, really struggle.”
2022-05-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nadine Dorries One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And there was no cupboards under the sink. We had a wooden box for the dog to sleep in. I remember the rent man knocking on our door and my mum was at the sink and she grabbed me by the hand and we were just on the floor so he couldn't see us through the window if he looked through the window. And also, you know, going to the rent office with my mum and holding my brother's hand and watching stood head high with this wooden counter while she was pleading with the red man not to evict us and telling him she was going to get work and that we would be able to pay the rent arrears. And I remember the tension, I remember feeling the tightness in my chest as a six-year-old that we were in a really serious situation, something awful was happening.”
2022-05-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nadine Dorries One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It was, we were very poor. So my poor dad was ill and the benefit system wasn't as it is today. He was very poorly, didn't work. My poor mum, I remember having to try and get work. And I got some very, in fact, I was actually thinking one of the memories came back to me last night, some very vivid memories, particular moments during my childhood which were, I realize actually feed into the other bit of me, which is the author bit when I'm writing my books, like, you know, hiding from the rent under the sink. And I actually remembered another memory last night. So, where we lived in our block of flats, there was like a wind.”
2022-05-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nadine Dorries One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, look, everyone in Liverpool talks about three things: the football, religion. Religion Or politics. And you know, I'm talking about back in the days pre-derecaton. It was and all that went on in Liverpool. I mean, Liverpool was a troubled city, you know, when I was growing up. We had the Orange Lodge marches. We had, you know, there was just so much that was politically volatile happening in Liverpool that everyone took, I remember falling asleep on our floor with arguments raging about over my head, about politics. So it's imbued on you in Liverpool from the day you're born and it's a very unusual city as well because Liverpool doesn't face Westminster, Liverpool faces out across the Atlantic towards America bypassing Ireland. So it's a really kind of heady mix of politics.”
2022-05-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nadine Dorries One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, I've got a clip of Tony Blair the very first time I asked a question in the House of Commons. And as I stood up and asked the question, he lent to Jack's draw and he went, who's that? Because it was, and I've got that clip still because it was so unusual for someone of my accent and a female standing up on the Tory benches to ask a question. And so it was all of those things. There was a hell of a lot of snobbery in there as well. Working class. like proper working class from Liverpool at Tory, you know, it was kind of just unheard of, but I got it from the other side. It came from the opposition, like, how dare you be a Tory? You and your background, you're supposed to be on this side of the house. So I was in a lose-lose situation from the day I arrived.”
2022-05-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nadine Dorries One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“People having a go. Having a go, yeah. And that was before social media. And I think it was because I just didn't fit into that stereotype that this is what a politician should be like. And back in 2005, that just wasn't acceptable. It's even less acceptable now, I think.”
2022-05-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nadine Dorries One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't really know. Do you know, I am a politician now? Well, 17 years I'm a politician. And so I don't think from the day I became a politician that I've actually acted like one. And because, you know, I came into politics really at the end of my career. I'd been a nurse for 10 years in the NHS. I set up my own business, sold my business and found myself in the fortunate position of being able to do what I wanted to do. And politics was kind of like my hobby. So I became a politician and was very fortunate to have been elected as an MP. And I think because, I mean, if you look back 17 years ago when I arrived in Westminster, it started from the day I arrived.”
2022-05-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nadine Dorries One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, it's really weird. I don't recognise myself at all. And my family, and my friends don't recognize it. So it's bizarre. You know, I am a Gemini, so I sometimes think I like this split personality, the front public-facing one that people see and the one that, you know, all my mates and my family see. So it is a bit of an odd one, yeah.”
2022-05-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nadine Dorries One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source