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Nick Foster

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“Rethink something and to push back. Computers haven't really pushed back on us very much, they've been very kind of servile, but now they're in this sort of negotiation phase of computing, which I find really interesting. So a small group of designers who've been exploring.”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Thing I was talking about about focusing on what's different about this rather than just allowing us to make the perfect spoon faster or quicker. It allows us to think differently as a creative partner, as a way to sort of stimulate new directions of thought. And it's a very simple thing, and I'm sure the market share is zero. But it's interesting to me. And I think that is this little peek into the world.”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, I come at this from an art school background. I've mentioned art school twice as some sort of caveat for my answers. That's where I come from. Some friends of mine have been training AI models on images of spoons. Spoons, yes, spoons that we eat with every day and created a huge training set of images of spoons and then asked AI to create three new spoons. And that's sort of interesting. And they were kind of weird and distorted and asymmetrical, and they had weird blobs because of all the distortionary forces I was talking about. But what's lovely is they actually made them and they produced them and they found a silversmith in Italy to produce these spoons. And for me, that really epitomizes that.”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Which we're not. And then once we're honest about it, we need to see it sort of disappearing into the background and stop shouting about it so much and stop branding everything AI.”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Sounds remarkably like asking me for a prediction, but we'll go with I think it's like you say, when we stop talking about it, when it just becomes part and parcel, when it becomes embedded in the software that we're using, when we're truly honest about telling stories about the future, I use the example of ABS. When I was a kid, ABS breaking on cars was a big thing. Cars had little Chrome ABS badges on the back, and now it's just sort of standard. It's not even listed, and we certainly don't see ABS badges. So I think getting past the badging phase of AI and just saying, that's how computers work now. They work in a slightly different way. And it gives you all these other things. I think that we need to be honest about what people really do with their software.”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, the other option is to wait until it matures and then see if there's something you don't have to be part of the experiment.”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I would think it's mostly FOMO at the moment. Is a CEO feels like they have to stand up and say AI, AI, AI? Because if they don't, the companies like everyone else that I go to dinner with is talking about AI. Why aren't we talking about it? But I think that represents the experimental phase that we're talking about. I would hope that a smart CEO would say, we should look at this. It has the potential of big transformation. I think those could look like this. Let's explore that. But if it turns out not to be true in five years, just like moving to a different whatever server base or whatever it is that we thought was going to be a big thing that ended up not being, we might see a lot of companies going, do you know what? LLMs, not for us. It's not really how our business works. Doesn't make financial sense. Customers don't want it. We might move away from it. So I think at the moment we are in that space where it feels like you have to have some skin in the game and explore and experiment just to see if it's for you.”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“AI, we've got to do it. Fine, that's the sort of thing that CEOs say. But then what after that? Let's get into the detail. Let's talk about what we're actually going to do or excited about or fearful of.”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Necessity to doing that for secrecy, for privacy, for lack of distraction. But I think it does other futures work in an unhealthy way and it stops it being sort of integrated into the way of thinking. When you're in this sort of environment where the world is changing as quickly as it is, with these new technologies that have huge capabilities, I think it is everybody's responsibility, not just job, it's everyone's responsibility to start thinking in longer-term ways. Start thinking beyond the quarterly returns, start thinking beyond the one year, even two-year, start to release though.”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I think finding a way to encourage everyone you meet and all of your teams to have conversations about the longer-term implications and the longer-term futures that we're interested in, and encouraging people to think about things in the round rather than just getting trapped into one of these corridors of thinking, it's very easy to say we should do this because the data says so, or we could do this, I'm very excited about it, or we don't do this because it's scary. But I do think a well-rounded AI strategy for want of a better term is one that incorporates all of that. and also incorporates the views of everybody in the organization who's building it. I do have a problem with this sort of othering of futures work and labifying of thinking about the future. You're here and you make the products, we're over here and we're thinking about the future because I've been in those environments for 25 years. And I think that there's sometimes...”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“How do we take that? And somehow, I won't say democratize, but offer an alternative path that allows smaller companies, different organizations.”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, and they're mostly motivated by achieving the same sorts of goals too. And I think that's the challenge, is like, how do we build these systems that, by the way that they're built right now, require this huge amount of capital and resources to create energy resources, energy and everything else?”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think it gives it oxygen for sure to say, you know, we were right, we should have been more concerned about these things. I think the distribution of this work is something I know you're fond of talking about, the distribution of where this work is happening and by whom and what their motivations are is a question that we need to have more broadly. And the concentration of influence because of the amount of money and the amount of resources it takes to build these models, that needs addressing. I don't necessarily know an answer to that.”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So people go rowing for fun, even though an outboard motor is more efficient because it's donative act. I think one of the things that we're struggling with at the moment is thinking of things like AI as a compressive tool. And I think it's the same mistakes we made with labor-saving devices in the home in the 30s, 40s, 50s, and 60s. And the dream was that it would emancipate people, particularly women, from hard labor in the home. And all it did was just increase the expectations on women to do more things with the time that they had. They weren't off playing golf or having dinner parties, as the advert said. And I think we need to think about that more. It's like, if we're going to compress all of this stuff down and make it simpler, we don't get the afternoon off. Expectation is then that we produce twice as much”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, aside from the fact that we don't really know what the labour market will look like in 20 years because of the introduction of these technologies I think one of the mistakes again we make is the idea of thinking of these technologies as somehow compressive. There's a funny sort of academic term compressive or donative technologies.”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So we can take something like the transition from petrol cars to electric cars and we say, oh, that's a problem solved. Far from it, particularly if you're a nine-year-old boy being forced down a hole in Congo to dig up lithium or cobalt for these batteries. A problem and a solution only exists as far as you're willing to look. And I think thinking about the depth of implications about all of the things that we're bringing about on the world and the second and the third order implications of the things we're bringing about on the world is where responsible companies start to flourish is actually understanding that friction and complexity is part of business. You can't just streamline something and say point A to point B. There's joy in the mess and there's also responsibility in the mess too.”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, it comes from a mindset of viewing the world as a series of problems to be solved. And I've always found a problem with the term solution. We always have this companies name themselves so and so solutions or whatever. And I think it just, it's a very reductive way of looking at the world.”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But a lot of creative people saw that and heard that and said there's something interesting. And lo and behold, they lent into it and said, this is actually something new and it's a different thing. I wasn't trying to reproduce. And so you end up with grunge and rock and roll and heavy metal. And that birthed the whole new industry and a whole new art form. So I'm less interested in saying we have this problem. Let's throw AI on it. We can do it twice as faster with half as many people. I'm more interested in saying the world is a place filled with people, with lots of things we're trying to achieve. We have this new set of capabilities, what new things might it birth?”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The example that I tend to use is the guitar amplifier, actually, because it takes it away from sort of Silicon Valley Tech. And when the guitar amplifier was created, it was designed to reproduce the sound of a guitar or a voice louder. Obviously, what came with that was distortion, which is a bit like the artifacts we see with AI. And a lot of engineers said, that's a bad thing. We need to engineer that out.”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, that's a good one. I think there's a really weird thing going on at the moment that people look at the world as it is and thinks that's what it is. And then they apply AI to it as some sort of admin and fetamine. Just do what we used to do, but just faster and more efficient. But I don't think that's actually where we're going to end up. I think that's where we'll start because people see the world and they have their list of problems that they want to answer or address. And they say, oh, AI can do that in half the time or half the cost or twice as often, whatever it matters to you. The challenge for me is what new things come after that, what new jobs, what new ways of working, where creativity plays into all of this. I think that isn't what's being talked about enough. And I think we need to have that conversation.”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think we need to play with these things and we need to explore them in environments that we're comfortable with, not reject them and not say no, but just play with them, start to make sense of them and say, actually, there's something here there that either me or my team or my company or my society or my culture could benefit from and then start to make the big investments and run towards these technologies.”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There's the FOMO side of it, which every company feels like they need to put on their slides, like we're doing AI, we're doing AI, and I've seen 100 people on LinkedIn put AI designer now in their bios and whatever else. It feels like you have to do it. And it's because we're in a sort of whatever you want to call it, a Cambrian explosion of technology or whatever”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So think about it in somebody's backpack on a bus in a wet city. Seattle is where we are today. Think about it in those terms and suddenly it grounds everything and it normalizes things and starts saying, actually, I have 100 questions now. And it stops it being a fantasy land.”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And snake oil. We have a habit of talking about the future again as some other place occupied by other people, probably more heroic people than us. Whenever you see something like a future device or a new gadget or whatever, it's really helpful to start to think about it less about, you know, you always see these videos of somebody using VR to like fix a heart or build a city. But actually people just watch YouTube and play games on them.”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The people are also going to be existing with this technology. So I love to think about technology in sort of a mass adopted, ordinary everyday part of people's lives. And I think that helps ground the conversations. And it helps you lean on”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I've got a long lecture I can give on this, which I won't. But when I was a junior designer, I did a lot of the bombastic escapist sci-fi-inflected futures work because I thought that's what you were supposed to do. Then I would go home to my parents' sort of damp Midland house, go to the pub with my dad, and just think, what was that I was doing in London at the weekend? During the week, it doesn't make sense. And I think that it just started to not reflect my own experience of the world. And so I lent into this way of thinking that I call the future mundane, which is a way of thinking about either NPCs or background talent or extras. I think in the opera they're called supernumeries or something. But the people that exist in the background of scenes.”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But I also think if you say that your business is creating gods, you can register your company as a religion and therefore you get some good tax breaks too.”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, to that point, I'm interested in machine intelligence as opposed to artificial intelligence. And I think AGI is a sort of weird totem that sits out in the future whose definition is constantly evolving depending on what books people have read that week or what definition or benchmark somebody's given to it. So I think it's a sort of, it's a, I don't know, fool's errand, is that the right term to say we're aiming towards that thing? Because the question is, what is that thing? And then what happens the day after? And I think that it sort of doesn't take us anywhere useful. And I think the idea of separating machine intelligence from human or mammalian intelligence is they are fundamentally different in many ways. Human intelligence is bound together with experience and mortality and hormones and beliefs and all of those other things that these systems don't have. So I think treating them as their own thing allows them to stop being...”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Without wanting to get into a taxonomic hole here. Also, have you noticed how many people in Silicon Valley are now really interested in philosophy and the nature of humanity and suddenly experts on Descartes and things like this?”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I would love the reason I wrote this book, I could have written a book for other futures practitioners or an academic book. I've written a broad appeal book because I'm actually encouraging people to say,”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, unconvincing folks And I think that that exists, and we have to be aware of that. But I think the reason I don't call myself a futurist is because I think a lot of people that do call themselves futurists or show up on stages at events and give talks. There's a lot of snake oil stuff there. And I feel uncomfortable with it, so I don't want to be part of that cohort. So I think those people's work needs to get better. And when I say better, I mean more balanced, more honest, more open, more rigorous. But I don't think that will happen naturally because the audiences don't push back enough. They don't raise their hands enough. They don't maybe feel confident enough to say, wait, hang on a second, you've been saying this for 10 years. Where is it? What makes you so sure in that projection?”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think you've got a strong take on this they are rich but they're not geniuses there's this sort of position yeah of course”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“What do we need it for? What kind of worldwide might we leave behind? I think that that level of understanding and that level of respect for thinking about and talking about and doing work about the future just doesn't exist almost anywhere”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Sitting people down and finding space in the daily life to have that conversation about what are we building, where is it going, what don't we know?”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, the question is how do we start thinking about the potential for an unimaginable future when we have trouble even articulating what that is? Yeah. Yeah, I think it's a, I mean, that's a very hard question to answer, obviously why it's been asked. I think the challenge that we've got in articulating the future at the moment is that the present is so volatile. There's that Gibson quote that well-formed ideas about the future are difficult because we have insufficient now to stand on. And it does feel like that. And in the conversations I've been having around this book, it does feel like there's this sort of instability around us. And my argument to that is like, well, should we just stop then? I think that means we need to do more thinking about the future. And it doesn't mean to say we have to get it right, which is why I shy away from things like projections or predictions or prognostications.”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think you're right, and I think part of my job when I was working inside big tech companies was to do that kind of work with people or at least try and encourage them to think about, if you put this out in the world, people will use it in these ways. And you either need to mitigate that or be at least aware of it. And I think that the strange thing with AI is it feels like the public or the consumers or the real world is ahead of the technology in that regard. There is a lot of doubt and skepticism and a lot of dubious opinions about what is this and do I actually want it and I feel bad about it. And I think that the people producing these technologies have to come up to meet that. And again, as part of this sort of balance of thinking about the future from a could, should, might, and don't perspective, you need that sort of balance from all four corners.”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Adolescent apocalypticism, which is just being surrounded entirely by bad portrayals of the future or terrifying portrayals of the future that just become crippling, and it makes it really hard to sort of be hoped for or excited about the future.”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah. So the fourth corner that I call don't is that place of looking to the future and the futures that you don't like or you don't want to end up in. And again, religions and science fiction cinema does a lot of work in dystopia. Religions have places like hell and purgatory to try and steer you in the present, away from undesirable futures. I think we do have that in AI and in technology writ large, but it tends to be extrinsic. It tends to be from a position of critique. It doesn't happen enough within organizations. And I think we're starting to see a slight shift in that, I think, in some sectors where people are starting to understand the negative externalities of the things that they're creating. And they're starting to understand the second and third order implications of the things they're building. But I think that the challenge with don't futurism is if you spend too long in that space, or you only do it, it can become crippling, particularly for, we're seeing this a lot in our young people who have this term.”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Analysis paralysis. And again, for every, when you just think we've got the 50 scenarios in front of us, somebody will walk in and say, teens in Korea or something. You're like, oh, now we need to do another 10. So it just becomes this self-perpetuating mess of potential future scenarios.”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“More importantly than that, your adversaries, particularly in things like the Cold War, they might be deliberately deploying false data to throw your scenarios off course. So the competitive nature of future scenario planning becomes a problem. And I think that sort of where I stand with my futurism. I think, like I said, if you were to hire a company to do that kind of work, that's the kind of work that you would get. But it does sort of lack and it has the same sort of confidence like we've seen this whole terrain and it can just get very complex very, very quickly and not lead you to a kind of decision, just lots and lots of options.”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, the way I define my futurism is sort of the opposite of should futurism, which is looking at the future as a huge landscape of probability and possibility, sort of from the rand days of the Cold War, scenario planning and game theory, like when we're playing chess, you make a move and you figure out, oh, well, we could do that and we could do that, we could do that. So it becomes this huge terrain of multiple stories. And I think on a commercial level, it probably represents best-in-class futures work. And if you were to hire a strategic foresight partner, that's the kind of work they would do ingest just tons of data and build lots of, this might happen, this might happen. We think this is more likely, we think this is less likely. So that terrain of mites about the future is what I define here. The challenges with these ways of thinking are many. The first is that no matter how much data you pull in or how many opinions or how many weak signals you draw on, you'll never have it all.”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And sure enough, we know Ask Blockbuster, ask Kodak, these are companies that had very confident dotted lines striding off into the”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah. I mean, you're talking to somebody that used to work at Nokia. So, like, I've been around that kind of confidence, and our data says this, the market for this, the price is too high, the whatever.”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think that the over reliance on data and feedback to make your decisions just becomes crippling really quickly. And it can totally freeze your product, whatever it is. Because you sort of do a little test, you get a bit of negative feedback because people usually refer to. Reactor change in sort of negative ways, whatever it is And so you don't do it. And your product just becomes ossified and stuck in ice. And sometimes you do need to make that idea that veers away from that dotted line of where the data says we're going.”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And a lot of the things that we're trying to measure now, particularly things involving humans, are just naturally chaotic. So any kind of dotted line striding confidently out into the future is the story. And we need to treat them a bit more like that.”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I call it numeric fiction. My job as a designer is to make things and make movies and make prototypes. And I consider those stories about a future that we might produce or we could produce or we should or whatever. But I think the confidence that we attribute to numeric fiction and algorithms and data-driven futures is way overblown when placed back against reality. So, I think there's this phrase that a lot of people with MBAs like to use, which is skating to where the puck is going to be, the Gretzky quote. And it sort of might work for ice skating. I'm not a big ice hockey fan.”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, so should futurism is just defined by some form of certainty about the future. And I think that can come from two places. One is a sort of ideological position, either from your religions or the state of morality that you'd like to see in the world, and we should point towards there. That's the world we should build. I think that's sort of off to the side of what we're really talking about. The should futurism, I see played out a lot in business, is this notion of observing the world through numeric practices, creating models of how we think the world works. And then the sort of the temptation to project those models out into the future becomes almost irresistible and people do that. But the challenge that I have with should futurism is that once that solid line turns to a dotted line, it ceases to be data and it becomes a story.”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I think the problem with it as well is it assumes that everyone else has seen the same movies and read the same books. And I think that that can be an exclusive or excludes a lot of people from the conversation who aren't along with the memes or along with the language or along with the law”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“If you actually look into the history of that mobile communications was around long before things like Star Trek. Maybe the form factor was slightly influential and the development of the StarTack flip phone. That's hard to say. But I think we sort of muddy those things up and people are willing to overlook the hundred thousand false predictions in science fiction for that one moment when somebody held up a glass rectangle and went, oh, iPad. It feels like we have a habit of focusing in on the thing that was closest to the bullseye, but ignoring all of the millions of other things that were never so.”
2025-11-10 · On with Kara Swisher · What Everyone Gets Wrong About the Future of AI with Nick Foster · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Think so, but without wanting to get too into the law of it, I think The challenge that I've got is influence is one thing, being influenced by something you saw is one thing, but saying that the science fiction predicted those things is just a falsehood. And I think that also for something like the Star Tack flip phone, everyone said that's the Star Trek.”
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