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Nick Ganju

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first: 2014-11-19
most recent: 2014-11-19
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“Certainly, I'm about us page of ZocDoc. But more importantly, if you need a doctor, it really is the best place to find a doctor. So ZocDoc ZOCDOC.com. For myself, I don't have any shrine to me on the web anywhere. I've got a LinkedIn page. You can find me on LinkedIn page, I suppose.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I mean, it's just like figure out a market need, like anything that you have in your day-to-day world, that sucks. Is it hard to find parking or is it movie theater dirty or whatever? And just try to solve that problem. I think that's a great way to get started. You'll learn a lot. You'll do something, you'll create a website where it shows you which movie theaters are dirty and you'll realize, wow, I can't like there's no revenue from this website. I can't make any money telling people what movie theaters are dirty. But then that's a learning by itself, right? And, you know, and you come away from that and you're like, okay, I need to think about things with actual revenue opportunities. And you'll do that iterative process. And you'll flop a bunch, but that's fine. That's the learning process. And it's the school of hard knocks. And you're going to learn a ton just doing that kind of stuff.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“If you spend five years doing it, you will have learned like 35 years worth of career progression and life skills in those five years of just risking and failing and risking and failing. So even if it's a total flop, the person that you come out at the end of it as is far ahead of if you've just gone and worked at a big company.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Sure. I mean, I guess it would go back to these. So I'd say certainly when you're young, do the things, do the entrepreneurial things, because those are the things that will get you, right? You'll learn the most by far. And so I did, like I said, I did two startups in my 20s. And neither one was a great hit. But the amount I learned in one year of doing a startup was like seven years of working at a big company. And so, you know, when you're young and, you know, if you just finished college or whatever and you've got this, you know, you've got this freedom and you're not encumbered with a spouse and kids that you have to pay for. And you can live on ramen noodles and all this stuff. That's the time to go and take this entrepreneurial risk because even if everything you do is a complete flop.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I don't know really. I guess it's not like for the basic chords, it's really like anything we'll do. For example, a D major chord is just, you know, it's three of your fingers, your index middle, and fourth finger, and then you have to put them on the bottom three strings of the guitar on the second fret, third fret, and second fret. And so you just have to, you know, it's just that, right? It's not more complicated than that. There's no specific form that you have to do when you approach the guitar or whatever. You just got to slam your three fingers down on those three frets, on those three strings, and you'll play a D chord. And so at that level, you just need to know which fingers to put on which strings where. And it's not, you know, it's not an intense sort of... Form exercise or anything.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And it doesn't feel like work or rehearsal or practice. It's just each one, I just have to practice one new chord. And over time, over the course of a year, you'll learn of.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so within a few weeks, you can already start playing simple songs. And then twist and shout, for example, to go back to the Beatles is just three chords, three easy chords. And so you can play Twist and Shout in a week or two really well. And then what you do is as you learn each new song, pick a song with one extra chord in it, right? So this next song has the same three chords as Twist and Shout, but one minor chord in it. And so now, right, so now you're learning that new song, you're leveraging 75%, you already know because it's the other three chords, and you're only picking up one new chord. And so then as you play new songs, just add one new chord each time.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I wouldn't have guessed that. Yeah, because I think, well, for a couple reasons. It's probably not the easiest to play in terms of like, I mean, you know, it's kind of hard to hold a chord. And obviously with a piano, you can just plunk the keys. But the second you get over the hump of learning three or four chords on guitar, you're off to the races, right? Because you can play so many pop songs with just three or four chords on guitar.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“To make it not. I would do a business case and say I can train this many people. No. I think that Probably the guitar is the easiest.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Let me see. If you find, let me think, I like across the universe a lot. So, if you find like you can even see once you understand music theory, you can even see which ones were written by whom. And so you can see, like Paul McCartney always plays this, he always puts the four minor in his songs, and that's sort of a music theory term. He's a big fan of putting the four minor in his writing. And so when you hear a four minor come up, you're like, oh, I bet this one was written by McCartney. And then you go look. And so I like across the universe, which does have a four minor in it. I like something. That one's by, I think it's by George Harrison. And Let me see. What are some other good ones? Certainly, like the more psychedelic ones, like Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds is great. I am the Walrus is great. And yeah, there's really no end to”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But the Beatles early stuff was like that. It was really simple and kind of about chasing girls and stuff And then later on, they got really, really sophisticated. And there's a lot of lovely complexity to the music. And as you know, I'm a big, you know, I play music myself and understand quite a bit about music theory, which is, again, getting sort of mathematical, but really understanding why things sound good and why discord sounds great here and this kind of stuff is all, once again, math and not complicated math, simple math. But I love music theory. And those guys were the kings of that.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I love the Beatles a lot. And I think that the more I listen to them, the more complexity and sort of stuff you discover as you listen to their stuff over and over, which is great, right? A lot of pop songs are just really simple and the first time you hear it, you've heard everything there is to hear.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't know, maybe the Jersey Shore people were. The sort of people that are famous for being famous Not the people that have actually contributed”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't know. I guess It was a tough one. I guess you could see he was very rough on his own employees within Microsoft. And I think that. At a younger age, I was also very abrupt and sort of fit to susceptible to bouts of anger and whatever. And I think I've come a long way at this company to be a lot nicer. I had a couple startups in my 20s, and I think I was very sort of mercurial in those startups. By the time I had started ZockDoc and sort of ironed all that out and it's much better to manage, be nice for someone you're managing.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“He's intact, right? He is slash was a computer nerd. I'm a computer nerd. He built an immense and one of the greatest software companies, greatest technology companies ever, and something that I aspire to do. And then not only that, but then. Sort of the second chapter of his life, he's now gone and done all this great philanthropy. And it's something that I would love to follow in his footsteps on that when retirement time comes for me, is to go and give back and do these philanthropic efforts.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But I love getting TS and I love a lot of important things that people misunderstand. And I've just furthered that with the example I just said was that not all negotiation is a zero-sum game. I think getting to yes is a great exposition of that.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“For all you listeners out there Go into a negotiation. Try this out. It only works when there's not a preset sort of reference point, right? Like if you're like, how much, you know, how much I'm going to sell you my used Toyota and how much should it be a ballpark should be five grand? I can't be like 100 grand, right? It just sounds stupid and like rude, right? So it only works really when there's not a good expectation from either party.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“If I hadn't done that, the final price might have been $25 an hour. And since I threw out that huge number, it's like screwed up your brain now and the final prices is instead going to be $40 an hour because I've done the anchoring thing. And so that's a great one.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so, right? And so now when we settle on a final number, it's going to be much higher than it would have been otherwise. And that's just a cognitive bias. And now, like you said, you use these to your advantage. This is a situation which I can use that to my advantage. So the final.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Let me see what's a big one that I think another big one that everyone has is anchoring, and I certainly had that before, which is in a negotiation when it's not clear what the price for something should be, you should just throw out a huge number. If you wanted me to be your mentor, right, your math mentor, right? And so what should an hourly rate be between you and me? Like, I have, like, I have no idea. I've never taught for a living. And so we have no idea. You and I. So in that silent moment when you and I are like, what do you think the price should be? I'm going to blurt out $1,000 an hour. That's what I'm going to say, right? And it's not because I think I deserve that. It's because now I've anchored the conversation. Saying a huge number like that.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, sure. I mean, I think all of these things were things that are very innate in everybody. And so I think at some point I did have sunk cost fallacy. At some point, I did have loss aversion and these kind of things.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We paid for it last week. So now we're going to go to the indoor court and we're going to play. And you're like, but the outdoor court is far nicer and it's empty. Why don't you go play there? And they go, well, no, because we've paid for this one. And so it's a sunk cost fallacy, right? And this is a cognitive bias, right? You should do the thing that is most like, you know, you should play tennis on the most pleasurable court then. It doesn't matter if you paid 50 bucks a week ago for the less pleasurable court. If the nicer court is open right now, you should play in the nicer court.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And the indoor courts are this uncomfortable white lights or whatever. And so what happens is in April, it'll be a beautiful sunny day. And the people will be playing on the indoor courts and the outdoor courts are empty. And you say, well, why are you playing on the indoor court? You should go play outside. And they're like, well, we've already paid for the indoor court.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, yeah. Yeah, my favorite story of sunk cost is there's this tennis club where you can rent, where the outdoor courts are free, but the indoor courts you have to rent and you have to rent them ahead of time. You have to rent them like three weeks ahead of time. And you have to pay like 50 bucks for the court for an hour or whatever. And this is a real case. I forgot where it was. But in March or April, and the outdoor courts are generally considered to be far more pleasurable because you're outside and it's warm and whatever, sunny.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And then with a six, you won $100,000. Now would you play that game? So it turns out that most people wouldn't play that game, even though the numbers are the same, because the fear of losing that much money. Right, sort of insurmountable. And so people have these, even though you should play that game, right? And a large business would play that game and even a rational actor would play that game. And so people have, so that's a cognitive bias called loss aversion, right? Like losing $100. You feel more bad for losing $100 than you feel good when you win $100.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, assuming you have the bankroll. But let's say each time that you roll that die, instead of One through five losing $1 and six gaining $10. Let's say that each of one through five, you lost $10,000.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there's a huge slew of what a psychologist would call cognitive biases that humans have. And what they are things that make a human For whatever reason, like, you know, evolutionary reason, it makes them averse to something that they shouldn't be averse to or irrationally evaluate things. And so I'll give you an example. We can go back to gambling again Let's use the same example. So if it was $10, if we rolled a die and each time we lost, each time it was one through five, you lost a dollar. And if it was six, you won $10, then you would play that game. Because over time you would be positive. But if each time”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, it's like an illustration, maybe, that I'm not self aware that today I need to, you know, today I should do something to de-stress because my stress levels are high. And certainly I do get there are certainly are days when the stress levels are high, and I don't think I am self-aware enough to have, okay, today I should meditate or whatever. But I certainly read a lot. I think I try to rid myself of cognitive biases. It's something that is extremely nerdy thing to say.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I do brush my teeth. On the days I remember I brush my teeth. I think that I'm very fortunate in that every day has a different set of challenges. And I kind of have the whole company is part of the stuff that I'm concerned with.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's an interesting question. I suppose I don't really have any rituals. I just get up and get ready and go to work. I think that”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, handshake method. And then the handshake grip. And then the other thing is people just don't have any conception of how big a role spin is in the game. And so it's a very light ball, and Spin has immense effect on the ball And so your normal looping forehand is supposed to have a lot of top spin on it. And so every ball should have spin on it. And, you know, depending on what you're trying to do, if you're trying to slice it, if you're trying to side spin, if you're trying to top spin, if you're just hitting it flat, then you're sort of forsaking an opportunity to do something tricky with it would screw up your opponent. And so learning how to hit the ball would spin is, I'd say, the second biggest thing.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I mean, you don't want to cover a large portion of the paddle with your hand because then your backhand will just hit your fingers. But yeah, that's essentially the right idea. Okay, people can Google it.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, yeah. Number one is the grip. So a lot of people just hold it atrociously. Just hold the ping pong paddle in whatever way they were first inclined to do it. And the general way, there's a couple of holding it, but the general way you're supposed to do it is it's called the handshake. And so you sort of extend your hand like you're having a handshake. You're about to shake somebody's hand and then you put the handle in that way. Sort of hard to explain. I think I get it.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Then they started saying, oh, only you can afford lessons. The guy that came and found me in the ping pong place was like, he ran into me at the bar of, there's a bar in this ping pong parlor. And he said, yeah, not everyone can afford the lessons. And I was like, he's like, I was like, how much did you spend on these drinks? And he had bought a round of drinks for four or five of his friends. And he was like, this is $40. And I was like, the ping pong lesson I just took is 35. And I'm not drinking. And I haven't bought any drinks. So I'm going to come out of this ping pong place spending less than you have. The first thing I did was that and started with proper form. And then practiced a lot when people weren't around.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We got it working. And all of a sudden, you know, ZocDoc started working. All these antiquated softwares were effectively communicating with us. And then those naysayers are like, oh, you didn't say you were going to do that. We thought you had to strike up partnerships with all these software companies. You didn't say you were just going to get the software in reverse engineer it. And it's like, well, I didn't say I was or I wasn't, but if you're thinking so inside the box and then when somebody thinks outside the box and gets something done, you know, you should learn from it. You should be like, oh, that's slick. You shouldn't be like, oh, you didn't say you were going to do that. That's not fair. It's not, and that's another sort of illustration of like, I'd say, you know, positive attitudes versus negative attitudes. So I took these lessons. So I took these ping-pong lessons. And then they go, oh, you didn't say you're going to do that.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Oh, you'll never get like, you know, there's practice management software that exists out there. And they said, you know, you'll never be able to integrate to these third party practice management systems because they're too antiquated and, right, that they're not going to release a new version and some of the companies are, you know, they're not even developing those things anymore. And we went and we just went and reverse engineered some of the existing ones just by literally getting copies of the software and deconstructing the file structure and really reverse engineering it.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Okay, so the first method. Sure, sure, sure. So the first thing was, and by far the most important thing was I went to the ping pong parlor by my house. And it took lessons. And so, right, and that was, and then at the end, so I was taking lessons once a week from there. And that, of course, just catapulted me in my skill level. And what would happen was at the third or fourth week one of my coworkers came into that ping pong parlor and saw me taking lessons.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, so first of all, I don't think that's an interesting sort of way to put it. It never occurred to me to say like, oh, I'm humiliating myself if I didn't do this. And maybe that's a sort of mentality that's, you know, maybe that's illustrative of the mentality, right? I wasn't, until you said that now, like two years later, it never crossed my mind that the humiliation of defeat or how humiliating that would be. And so, you know. Maybe it's just more constructive to just think about to focus on the positive of when you're going to win and not fret about the downside.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then in another 30 days, I beat those two people. And so in six, I said in 30 days I'll beat everybody. But in 60 days, I beat everybody but two people in 30 days. And then 60 days I beat everybody.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I practiced and practiced. And in 30 days, I had beaten all but two people at the company. And because this is like the long tail of at the end of the Bell Curtis, there's going to be people that are exceptionally good. And getting Mathie again, I know. I don't know.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I proclaimed it out loud And I photoshopped the highland, there's a highlander, I don't know if you remember that movie. There can be only one. Yeah, so like, you know, there's a like, he's like, there's a photo of him with the sword in the air and the lightning is striking the sword. And I replaced the sword of the ping pong paddle. And the lightning is striking the ping pong paddle. And I wrote there could be only one. But, you know, but.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But the story of the ping pong was that we got, we purchased two or three ping pong tables for my office Two years ago. And I was the worst player. I had never played ping pong in my life. I'd played like five times in my whole life. And I was the worst player out of everybody. And everybody was laughing and they were like, ha ha, because, you know, it's always fun to screw the boss, right? So the boss sucks at ping-pong, ha ha. We're all beating the boss ping pong. And so I got motivated. Let's say I got motivated. It's a good adjective. And I threw down the gauntlet and I said, okay, I'm going to beat everybody here. I'm going to beat everybody at this company in 30 days.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Sure, sure. This goes back to what you were saying about older people wanting to learn something. I play guitar and people say, well, I wish I had started a guitar when I was a kid so I could play. And I said, well, I started it when I was 28. And so, you know, still young, but not, you know, I wasn't like a 10-year-old and ping pong. I learned when I was 36 and I'm 38 now. And I thought that would be it's another interesting thing. I think people limit themselves as to they think they can learn or it's almost like an excuse to not have to try to learn something, right? Oh, I'm 36. Like I can't learn ping pong now. I'm too old. And it's just, it kind of makes it easy to say it's easy to not try to double down and actually learn something because you can just kind of cast it off and say, oh, I'm too old to learn new things.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's a good sort of lesson where you don't take yourself too seriously, right? Like it's like you're going to just things are going to happen. And the more you stress out about life is not going exactly the way I planned, the more unhappy you're going to make yourself, which is not to say you shouldn't try to do things, but you should certainly try to shape your life and all this. Don't take it too seriously or don't stress out too much when things don't go exactly how you planned.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, it's just like, you know, in the beginning, I mean, it's sort of obvious symbolism, but in the beginning, there's like a feather floating around the end. There's a feather floating around, and he's sort of floats around, right? Like he kind of, I forgot the exact story, but I think he's running. Oh, I know. There's a football field, and he kind of runs through it because he's running, he's fleeing from something, and he runs bash on everybody. So then they kind of like, oh my God, we got to get that guy to play football. And then he plays football, and then he goes to college because he plays football at the end of college, like some army recruiter just hands him a flyer just at random and says, like, you should join the army. And he's like, okay, I'll join the army. And so he's just kind of floating around on the wind there. And I think it's...”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So going back to what I was saying about if there's a 10% chance of something failing, well, then you should spend 10% of your time before doing it, deciding if it's going to fail or not. And so really getting that discipline about doing enough forethought and like sort of reflection up front.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And then, you know, how to measure anything, which is what we talked about before, which is about being outcome-based and being, you know, getting these measurable outcomes, saying I'm going to lose 10 pounds as opposed to just saying, oh, I'm going to try to lose weight. And this is a great book because people often complain that they can't measure something. How many people like our site? Do people really like our website? Well, how do you measure that? Well, it's measurable, right? You can do a survey. You can ask people. You can just look at conversion rates. How many people actually do something on your website as opposed to just look at it and run away? And so this book is, you know, I found is quite informative onto how to think about measuring things that you might have thought were intangible historically. And it also goes into these kind of ideas about why it's valuable to measure.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And if it's simple, they're going to stay and book an appointment. And so it's all very well and nice of us to scoff about that. That user didn't know how to use our homepage. And we can be haughty and scoff about it. But then we just didn't get that appointment, right? It's our job to get people to book appointments. And so there's no room for being haughty about that. We need to make it accessible to everybody.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The book that I love, which helps reinforce that sort of culture, that user friendly culture here at ZocDoc, is a book called Don't Make Me Think, which is a book on usability in it. And it's sort of a simple book. It's like 100 to 150 pages, lots of illustrations about good user interfaces and bad user interfaces in it. So it's kind of an easy read, but it is a treatise on why we should make usable interfaces and not just how we should make them, like what sort of user interface sort of patterns work or don't work, but also why we should do that. And this is the reason about ZockDoc, right? If you go to the homepage, people discovering us for the first time, they go to the homepage. And if it's complicated, they're just going to leave.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And then a good software company has the attitude of if they don't know how to use something, it's our fault because we did not make the software intuitive enough. And we didn't make it simple enough for people to use And you see Apple is a shining example of that where they really go out of their way and do extra work. The engineers do immense amounts of extra work to make it easy and simple for the user. And they're rewarded in the market.”
2014-11-19 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Ep 45: Nick Ganju on The Majesty of Ping Pong, Poker, and How to Write Hit Songs · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT