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Nick Gibb

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first: 2023-10-13
most recent: 2023-10-13
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“Why did you find yes? Annoying you raised that. I can guess where it came from. Look, I have friends who write The Simpsons and it's the love actually episode and there's a scene of the House of Commons and one of the MPs who's dancing behind Benedict Cumberbatch character is me. I'm told by the writers they drew that character to look like me.”
2023-10-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nick Gibb One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I say that as an education minister, I'm always battling for more money. We've worked hard to reduce unnecessary workload on teachers and we've been successful. We've taken down by five hours. So I'm on their side, absolutely with you. And thank you for the rising standards that we're seeing in our schools as a consequence of those teachers.”
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“is that liberating the teaching profession, the academy's program enables them to do that, the free schools program, 600 schools set up by teachers of delivering wonderful results who've challenged prevailing orthodoxies to get those results.”
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“Shadow Education Secretary, but one of the things we have achieved over the last 13 years is that we have liberated the teaching profession to have those debates about how to teach, about what's in the curriculum, what James Callaghan called in the Ruskin speech in 1976, the secret garden. We have opened the secret garden for teachers to debate. And we are almost unique in the world now, people from overseas who want to discuss these issues say that in this country, the teachers are blogging, they're discussing, they go to these new conferences called Research Ed, founded by Tom Bennett, where a thousand teachers will turn up on a wet Saturday in September to debate evidence-based approaches to education. So that won't go away. Those teachers will continue to debate these issues, and no government now can stop that from happening.”
2023-10-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nick Gibb One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Wherever he has gone, he has wanted to deliver change and reform. And I think that approach to politics, that you're not in it for what's good for Nick Gibb for the next promotion, that you're in it because you want to improve the lives of people. That sounds sort of slightly pious, but actually most politicians do come into politics to try and improve our country, to make life better for people, whether it's the economy, the health service or education. And I think we've just got to make sure that that continues to be the motivating force for all the politicians that we select.”
2023-10-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nick Gibb One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I hope not. I mean, we do live in a democracy with all its challenges, but I think that public this is what I think people want. They do want politicians who deliver on the promise. And, you know, one of the people we've not mentioned very much is Michael Gove. I mean, working with Michael in opposition and then in government was when he was education. When he was education, shadow education sector and education was a real pleasure. I think politicians like him.”
2023-10-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nick Gibb One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It is about consistency of policy. And the advantage I had that I had prime ministers, David Cameron, Theresa May, Rishi, who were absolutely committed to the reform agenda. And so that meant that we weren't chopping and changing the policy as ministers came and went. And I think that is important, consistency policy, because things like reform take years. I mean, the multiplication tables check that we introduced, it became compulsory last year for the first time. I was working on that in 2012. We had to devise it. Because it's a computer-based, we had to pilot it, we had to consult. It takes years to implement policy. So what you don't want then is another minister coming in saying, oh, we don't want a multiplication double checks. And let's do a division check and starting the whole process over again. So I do think consistency of policy supported by the prime minister, supported by the Secretary of State, I think is key to successful reform in.”
2023-10-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nick Gibb One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's in his biography. He says that the policy was that if a minister of state is not going into the cabinet, and again, we discussed that earlier, then they have to go. So it's up or out. And he said it's a great rule, but wrong example with me, and that's why he brought me back to continue the education reforms.”
2023-10-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nick Gibb One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, and then he brought me back. So it's very funny because I got the call to go and see him. And he said, you know the phrase, bring back Matron, bring back hanging. Well, a lot of colleagues in the Commons have been saying bring back Gib. And so I'm bringing back Gibb.”
2023-10-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nick Gibb One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, so not just on this issue, on many issues. I'm not sure whether our media, you know, I love our debates on the Today program. I can't wait for the next one. But I'm not always sure that the media, it's really the newspapers really, I would say, they like to sensationalize matters. Everything is a negative story. And I didn't really feel that the media were treating this story as sensibly and fairly as they should. We were taking the only decision that could be taken. I was absolutely comfortable about the decision. And the idea that we would allow schools, given the evidence we had to continue to use rooms with rack that could collapse unacceptable, and that should have been the approach I think the media should have taken.”
2023-10-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nick Gibb One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There are 174 with confirmed rack, only 23 of them where children are at home learning through remote and we want, and only one or two where all the children are at home, but not for long. We're going to get those children into proper accommodation as a rapid business.”
2023-10-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nick Gibb One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So we sent in our surveyors to make sure that it wasn't some peculiar issue in that particular school that led the thing. And what they discovered was actually we now know you can't always see from the outside whether that particular piece of rack is safe. So we took the only decision that was safe. I have a zero and the Secretary of State has a zero tolerance in terms of safety. We want our school buildings to be as safe as airlines. You don't say 1% of airlines can crash. And we say the same thing, absolute zero tolerance.”
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“I do sometimes think the media is not as straightforward as it really ought to be. The rack issue, here's this concrete, you know, aerated, reinforced autoclave concrete. And it was used in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s in a lot of buildings around the country. And we've taken this issue very seriously. Over the summer, we discovered that some of these beams that We discovered actually that though they looked safe, they were not on one fell and then we had two more over the summer. So inevitably, the decision we had to take, and you would have taken the same decision, I'm absolutely sure. When you saw that evidence, we had to then tell the sector that if you have RAC that we previously said was okay to continue to use those buildings, we then said you're not. So there are 170.”
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“We haven't been working on it for that long. It's in a good state and we just there. But we do have, there are some issues about some legal issues we've got to grapple with. And it's got to be right. It's got to be the right guidance for schools and that they can use to support those young people.”
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“Yes, and I do that and in the department and we are working on transgender guidance and that transgender guidance will be great. It will be good. It will help schools navigate a very sensitive issue and it will support and help young people who are questioning their gender. We just have to get that guidance right. It's been five years.”
2023-10-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nick Gibb One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I just think these are issues that are not central to people's daily lives. And I know that people like to talk about these issues. I know people get very cross and angry about them. But I'm very comfortable in this government because I know there is compassion and concern and everybody in government wants to support young people who are questioning their gender in the best way possible, but also including their parents.”
2023-10-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nick Gibb One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And we do need to be respectful of young people or of any age who are questioning their gender. And we need to take various, that's distress seriously and do everything we can to be kind and supportive of those young people. And I still hold that view. What I'm not interested in is the sort of woke war issues. I'm not just not interested in those issues. They're not issues that worry the British people. They are 36th, if you like, on the list of people's concerns. What people are worried about are do they have a job? Is the economy strong? Is the health service good? Are their schools good? And those are the issues that worry me.”
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“Yes, of course, and we want any transgender child in a school. They need support. They need to be respected. And that is absolutely the current government's approach to those children. We're working as you are hinting at on some transgender guidance. There are sensitive issues. There are legal issues. There are a diverse range of opinions in society on these issues. But I do feel about...”
2023-10-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nick Gibb One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“My view is that I want to focus on reforming education. And that's why I've lasted so long as a minister. I just want to get our education system. Even though I've been doing it for 10 years, there's still masses to do. We've gone from 68%, no statistics, you said, but here we are, there's one. 68% of schools were good or outstanding in 2010 today is 88%. But I want that to be 100%. There should be no school nearby and local school that is in that 12% category. So there's a lot to do and I want to continue that. I think everybody lives.”
2023-10-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nick Gibb One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We took a view that we would get married, and then as soon as that election was done, we started booking the venues and everything else. And then we realized, of course, that you have to send out save the date cards. And at that point, we took the view that we needed to have what we call privately the great unveiling. And I did an interview with the Cited Times interview with Alice Thompson and Rachel Sylvester talking about our marriage. It was a wonderfully, they wrote a really lovely interview piece. They photographed Michael and I. And that was a way of, if you like, controlling the story and to letting people know, ready for the invitations going out for our wedding in November.”
2023-10-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nick Gibb One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, as soon as the law allowed. We had this thing, Michael and I, where we say, should we civil partnership, should we tell people, oh, the next election, after the next election? And I think we'd had a, if I was writing a biography at that stage, you would have been called after the next election. But it was during the 2015 election that we...”
2023-10-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nick Gibb One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Don't I don't know if they do. I mean, I'm very, you know, you ask these questions, Nick. I'm actually very comfortable with my personal history and with Michael. And I'm pretty sure Michael is very, very comfortable as well. And we took the decisions we took because we wanted to have our relationship, which has lasted for 36 years and hopefully more. And I think we took all the right decisions in those circumstances.”
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“I do, and I pay tribute to the bravery of people like that. I pay tribute to Tony Blair for introducing civil partnerships and David Cameron for allowing Michael and I to marry same-sex marriage. I also think there is a role for people like me who didn't campaign, who weren't open about our relationship, that we conduct ourselves. We can have a proper, loving relationship that I'm proud of, despite all the opposition in society to people having a lifestyle like we had. We did so quietly and discreetly, but I feel that Michael and I are in some ways role models for what a gay life should be like, and I am very proud of that.”
2023-10-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nick Gibb One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, it didn't actually because I felt it was about making sure local authorities were spending money, ratepayers money on the things that the ratepayers wanted. So I didn't really worry about it. But as the years went by and the fact that it did become totemic of an attitude to people that were gay, I did become very opposed to Section 28 and I was delighted when William Hagues took a view that we were going to not have that as our policy.”
2023-10-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nick Gibb One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, because you either, it's either a private matter or it's not. And if you tell people, then you're asking them to keep a secret. So it's simpler, simply to tell no one. And I never felt that I was misleading people because frankly, society was very different from what it is today. And so I didn't feel I was to blame or Michael was to blame. Society was to blame, if you like, to use that phrase because they had these views that if you were openly gay, you would not succeed in the professions. You would not be selected to be a conservative MP, to be a candidate. So I didn't really feel why society's attitude should determine the career path that I wanted to take. And I felt very strongly about wanting to take.”
2023-10-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nick Gibb One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I took a view. I knew probably my late teens eighteen nineteen that I was gay, and my own view was I think this is a perfectly valid natural way to be. And I was not ashamed of it and I took the view that I'm going to have a relationship and I'm going to, like everybody else has, but also I'm going to have a proper career and it's not going to affect that. So I did what I felt was necessary and I think Michael absolutely took the same view.”
2023-10-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nick Gibb One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We met in 1986, so we were both in my mid-20s, Michael in his early 20s, we met actually at a dinner of the Adam Smith Institute, the next generation dinner.”
2023-10-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nick Gibb One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think we did have good discussions on a Sunday lunchtime. Not always agreeing with our parents, I have to say. Also, I'm four years older than I know it's hard to tell, but four years older than my brother, I went to university and then came back, I think. Talk to Robbie about politics at university, and I think he found it fascinating as well, probably because of all our early childhood discussions around.”
2023-10-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nick Gibb One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We did have discussions at Saturday lunch, Sunday lunch particularly. We would have discussions around the table. Both my mother and father, I would say my mother's certainly a conservative, a member of the party. My father, I think he was a conservative, but he had quite a strong social conscience as well. He didn't think anybody should be living in poverty. He believed that everyone should be entitled to a home and hot water and everything else than food. And he had strong views about the issues that he was interested in. So there were discussions around the table, not necessarily about politics, but whatever it was.”
2023-10-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nick Gibb One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I will absolutely, and that's how I. I've stopped doing it in recent times, but I did that on every school visit, going to year six in a primary school, and ask children at their tables. And it's very interesting. In those early years, I was doing that, the hands that went up were fewer than I see today. Now you see every hand going up and even difficult multiplication table questions like 11, 11s, all the hands would go up. It's a dramatic change over those years.”
2023-10-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nick Gibb One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, no, but what she says is that she was trained in the 1950s in ways that actually she then had to undo and she used to tell me about hearing children to read every day. And then when I became an MP, I discovered actually that children are not heard to read every day. They heard once a week. And that's what led me down the track of finding out about phonics and meeting the Read and Reform Foundation. She also said that. That she taught her children their tables, multiplication tables, with one eye on the door, because it was not permitted when she was a teacher to teach the multiplication tables. That was regarded as grad grinding.”
2023-10-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nick Gibb One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“An academic, an American academic who was worried, he's on the center left of politics. And he was worried that because children from disadvantaged families who don't have that knowledge, the gap was widening between those children starting school compared with children who did have knowledge at home. They then get to school, who don't focus on teaching knowledge, they're teaching these other learn how to learn type skills. And the gap between those two sets of children widens. And that is what motivates me to make sure we have a knowledge-rich curriculum. Because the knowledge builds on knowledge. The more knowledge you have to begin with, the more you are quite. Why do you need knowledge? Because if you look at someone like Daniel Willingham, he makes the point that the working memory can only hold five or six new pieces of information at once. So if you're going to be a critical thinker or a problem solver to be creative,”
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“It was an exaggeration of the character. But I always say this was a semi-autobiography of Charles Dickens, who didn't turn out badly, did he, in terms of his ability to read and write”
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“Had this levelled again, this accusation is made. It wasn't easy implementing the phonics policy. We put in a test for six-year-old. That was criticized for a whole raft of professors from universities who say the very thing that you have quoted, that it's grad grind and it's boring. It isn't boring for the children. The children learn to read within weeks of starting school. The evidence is that teachers actually enjoy teaching it when they can see that their children are actually effectively learned to read and as a consequence we're going up through those in those league tables. We're now the fourth best in reading in the Polls International's study as a result of that.”
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“That's right, and he always said, understand what the problem is you're trying to solve, and then ask yourself, what do we believe? And I've always stuck to that approach. And by what do you believe, I mean, go out and find the evidence for what works.”
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“Absolutely, and I've had that accusation levelled at me countless times, but it's about the evidence, and there was a study done in Crackman, a longitudinal study over seven years that absolutely demonstrated the effectiveness of synthetic phonics versus other methods and the studies and the state. So it's about looking at the evidence, whatever the issue is, and the same applies to maths. How is math taught? You just look at the evidence, look at the high-performing countries around the world, Singapore, Shanghai, South Korea, Japan, and see how they teach maths in those countries. It's the same approach. And the advantage I have had, and really the answer to a question some moments ago about why have I survived so long, it is the fact that we've gone out and have had those five years in opposition spending time looking at the evidence, finding out the causes of the problem. You may remember Cecil Parkinson. He was a great friend of mine and a mentor.”
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“Fox is a traditional way of teaching children to read. You learn the sounds of the letters and you blend them into a word cat. There are 44 sounds in the English alphabet of 26 letters and it's the most effective way of teaching children to read. What has happened from the 50s and 60s in this country and the states is they use an alternative method that was felt to be simpler of look and say you repeat high frequency words over and over again. Now for bright children they can pick it up like that. But for many children who are not able, it was a real struggle trying to learn a thousand words on site compared with learning 44 sounds on how to blend them into words.”
2023-10-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nick Gibb One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, no, a slightly pejorative way of describing it. I would say knowledge rather than facts. What I did in opposition, I spent five years just visiting schools, trying to understand, challenging what I was seeing, reading about the subject, meeting people who had a different view from the prevailing orthodoxy, and I learnt a huge amount what I discovered from those visits was that the more progressive in inverted commas the school was, the worse their results. And then I needed to understand, well, what do I mean by progressive? What is this progressive thing? Is it just about phonics versus look and say? Is it just about setting and streaming versus mixed ability teaching? No, it's a lot more.”
2023-10-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nick Gibb One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Absolutely. And also, you know, at the time, there's a lot of unrest in schools, the behavior was appalling in too many schools, and that did let down children. And I do feel the sense of, and it's similar to the economy, I felt, you know, there are better ways of running an economy where people don't lose their jobs, where managers can manage the business. And I like what I heard Mrs. Thatcher say as a 15-year-old, a 16-year-old, that's what drove me into the Conservative Party and ultimately into politics. And then also similarly then, the same injustice applies where schools are not delivering the kind of education that parents want for their children.”
2023-10-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nick Gibb One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Because they had not been taught to read properly early on in their careers. And it's tragic. And as I visited schools from really 2003 onwards, and you would see children who you just knew, had there been in a better school? Had they been taught to read in a more effective way would not be having the problems that they had.”
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“I think it's a five-year-old no. 15-year-old? But yes, when I was in the sixth form, I began to see, because I've been to all kinds of schools in Canada, traditional primary school in England before we went, a grammar school, a school that had just gone comprehensive from being a grammar school, and then a very weak sixth form at the end. And I did see during that period the impact of the reforms and how the school system was changing.”
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“Seven schools because my father, civil engineer, moved house, we moved house to go with the jobs that he was doing because my parents didn't want to live apart. So, you know, I'm not saying it was a great thing, but it did give me a big experience of different kinds of things.”
2023-10-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nick Gibb One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“As you hinted at earlier, I didn't when I first came into Parliament. That wasn't my main issue. I was a child accountant, a tax consultant. I became interested in politics as a young person because of economic issues about how our country's economy was run. I felt very strongly that the free market was the right approach. I think I was appalled by the stagflation of the 70s and the trade union power that was destroying our economy. And that was what really drove me into politics. But I also went to a number of schools. I was at school between 65, 1965 and 1978. The Tony Cross and Reforms, Shirley Williams. And I saw firsthand the damage that was doing to our education system.”
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“No, because it's not if I were a different person, it wouldn't have, I don't believe there's any kind of prejudice. It's the fact that the way I wanted to live my life meant that I did not want to go and socialize, to go to the receptions, to go to all those things, because I wanted to be at home with Michael where we have a wonderful relationship. And I would have perhaps have gone had we been able to go as a couple. But that's on me. It's not on anybody else, on us rather.”
2023-10-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nick Gibb One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, I think when you live today, the post Tony Blair, the changes he made and the wonderful changes that David Cameron made to allow Michael Knight to marry, it's very different from what it was in the 80s and 90s, both in political life, public life, and in the professions as well. It was very difficult to be openly gay in those days. And I wanted to do well in politics and I wanted to do well at KPMG. And the same applies to Michael and his career. So it was impossible for us to be open about our relationship. But we were always very clear that we had a lovely relationship where we were not going to allow work and ambition to affect that and we weren't going to allow our relationship to affect our ambitions in our professional and work life.”
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“Back now, my husband, and the fact that for most of those 36 years until we married in 2015, our relationship was very private. That means that you don't go to dinner parties. And actually in politics, socializing, getting to know one another, prime ministers getting to know you. That is an important part of the political process. And I think that the fact that I haven't done that, you know, I don't get invited because we don't go as a couple. And if I am invited on my own, I don't want to go because I'd rather be with Michael back at home. We have a very wonderful relationship and I'd rather go home to Michael than go to a dinner party. And I think that might be a factor.”
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“Yes, always the bride's made never the bride. I mean, I guess the prime ministers have not seen me as somebody they want necessarily in their cabinet, but they're happy for me to plough on with delivering reform. I've often wondered whether what is the reason I haven't become an education secretary gone into the cabinet. I mean, part of it is also the fact that... I'm not a great socializer. Michael and I, we've been together for 36 years. Michael, how are you?”
2023-10-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nick Gibb One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, I think it is the seriousness to reform. I work very hard as a minister, not saying that other ministers don't as well. And I'm not particularly interested in the next job. I'm interested in this job and I want to see that reform implemented.”
2023-10-13 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Nick Gibb One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I think I take these issues very seriously, and I feel very strongly about education when I visit schools in the past, particularly in opposition, and I saw children who were just not fulfilling their potential. You saw you met bright kids, you said, I want to be a doctor, I want to be an electrician, and you realize they're in a school that will not deliver the grades that would help them to do that. And I felt a great sense of justice that if they had been in a different school, a better school, they would have been able to fulfill that ambition. And then you meet young children who are in primary school still not able to read. And that did strike hope with me. And I felt that I wanted to understand why that was. And by doing that research, by taking the issue seriously, I think that people in the House of Commons think that that is the right approach.”
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