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Nick Turley
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“We started, we set out to build a super assistant. That's how we talked about it at the time. In fact, the code base that we use is called SA server. It was supposed to be a hackathon code base, but things always turned out a little bit differently. And so in some ways, that is still division. The reason I don't talk about it more than I do is because I think a system is a bit limiting in terms of the mental model we're trying to create. You think of this like very personified human thing, maybe utilitarian, maybe, you know. And frankly, having an assistant is not particularly relatable to most people unless they're like in Silicon Valley and they're a manager or something like that. So it's imperfect, but like really what, you know, we envision is this entity that can help you with any task, whether or not that's at home or at work or at school. Really any context. And it's essentially that knows what you're trying to achieve. So unlike ChatGPT today, you”
2025-08-09 · Lenny's Podcast · Inside ChatGPT: The fastest-growing product in history | Nick Turley (Head of ChatGPT at OpenAI) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Maybe back up a bit. Now you think of ChatGPT as going to be ubiquitous product, again, about 10% of the world population uses every week. I think we have like 5 million business customers now. It's an established category in its own right. But really.”
2025-08-09 · Lenny's Podcast · Inside ChatGPT: The fastest-growing product in history | Nick Turley (Head of ChatGPT at OpenAI) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We've been working on it for a while. You can kind of view GPT 5 as a culmination of a bunch of different efforts. We have a reasoning tech. We had a more classic post-screening methodologies. And therefore, it's really hard to put a beginning on it. But it really is kind of the end point of a bunch of different techniques that we've been for a while.”
2025-08-09 · Lenny's Podcast · Inside ChatGPT: The fastest-growing product in history | Nick Turley (Head of ChatGPT at OpenAI) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Good about that. And yeah, as mentioned, it's faster. It thinks too, just like 03 did, but you don't have to manually tell it to do that. It'll just dynamically decide to think when it needs to. And when you think it just responds instantly. And that ends up feeling quite a bit faster than using O3 did. And then maybe the thing that's most exciting is that we're making available for free. And that's like one of those things that I feel like we can uniquely do at OpenAI because many companies, I think, if they have a subscription model like us, they would gate it behind their paid plan. And for us, you know, if we can scale it, we will. And that just feels awesome. We did that with 4.0 as well. So everyone's going to be able to try GPD5 tomorrow, hopefully.”
2025-08-09 · Lenny's Podcast · Inside ChatGPT: The fastest-growing product in history | Nick Turley (Head of ChatGPT at OpenAI) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Wrote a big blog post that we published Monday. And this thing is such an incredible editor. And compared to some of the older models, it just got taste, which I think is really exciting. And to me, that's something that is truly useful in my day-to-day. And there's a bunch of other areas. It's state of the art on health, which is useful when you need it. But again, the sort of the thing you can't really express in use cases or even, yeah, in use cases or data is sort of the vibe of the model and it just feels”
2025-08-09 · Lenny's Podcast · Inside ChatGPT: The fastest-growing product in history | Nick Turley (Head of ChatGPT at OpenAI) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“One way to look at that is academic benchmarks on many of the standard ones, whether or not it's math or reasoning or just raw intelligence, this model is state of the art. I'm especially excited about its performance on coding, whether or not that's SuBench, which is a common benchmark, or actually front-end coding is really, really good as well. And that's an area where I feel like there's a true step change improvement in GPT-5. But really, no matter how you sort of measure the smarts, it's quite remarkable. And I think people are going to feel the upgrade, especially if they weren't using 03 already. And, you know, the second thing, Elon Smarts, it just really useful. Coding is one axis of utility, whether or not you have coding questions or your vibe coding an app. But it's also a really good writer. I write for a living internally, externally.”
2025-08-09 · Lenny's Podcast · Inside ChatGPT: The fastest-growing product in history | Nick Turley (Head of ChatGPT at OpenAI) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'm so excited about LGBT5. I think for most people is going to feel like a real step change. If you're the average ChatGPT user and we have 700 million of them this week, you've probably been on GPT 4.0 for a while. You probably don't even think about the model that powers the product. And GPT-5, it just feels categorically different. I'll talk about a lot of specifics, but at the end of the day, the vibes are good. At least we feel that way. We hope that users feel the same. And increasingly, that is the thing that I think most people notice, right? They don't look at the academic benchmarks they don't look at evaluations. They try the model and see what it feels like. And just on that dimension alone, I'm so excited. I've been using it for a while. But it is also the smartest, most useful and fastest frontier model that we've ever launched. On Pure Smarts.”
2025-08-09 · Lenny's Podcast · Inside ChatGPT: The fastest-growing product in history | Nick Turley (Head of ChatGPT at OpenAI) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Is a type of capability that has been incredibly retentive. I've been really excited about what we've been doing in search”
2025-08-09 · Lenny's Podcast · Inside ChatGPT: The fastest-growing product in history | Nick Turley (Head of ChatGPT at OpenAI) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Was the simplest way to ship at the time? I'm baffled by how much it took off. I'm even more baffled by how many people have copied.”
2025-08-09 · Lenny's Podcast · Inside ChatGPT: The fastest-growing product in history | Nick Turley (Head of ChatGPT at OpenAI) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Just really want to jump to the punchline. Why can't we do this now? I always felt like part of my role here to just set the pace and the resting heartbeat.”
2025-08-09 · Lenny's Podcast · Inside ChatGPT: The fastest-growing product in history | Nick Turley (Head of ChatGPT at OpenAI) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“About 10% of the world population uses every week with scale comes responsibility. It just feels a little more alive, a bit more human. This model has taste.”
2025-08-09 · Lenny's Podcast · Inside ChatGPT: The fastest-growing product in history | Nick Turley (Head of ChatGPT at OpenAI) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I didn't know what I would do here because it was a research lab. My first task was I fix the blinds or something like that.”
2025-08-09 · Lenny's Podcast · Inside ChatGPT: The fastest-growing product in history | Nick Turley (Head of ChatGPT at OpenAI) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source