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Nicolle Wallace

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first: 2025-06-19
most recent: 2025-06-19
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“I think she did. You're right about the content. I think she did something mean about me and Rachel on my first podcast. I think I don't know how to find her, but I'm sure it's there.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And just put politics on one network, you know, 20 hours a day. I think politics in people's lives, if you're at a baseball game and you're watching the game and you're talking about, hey, where did you get catcher's gear? It was, you know, 20% more at Dick's. And oh, my God, did you see the sign there? I mean, people talk about politics in the context of all the other stuff. And so I think there is something false and indulgent about the way we do political news. And I don't know how to fix this, but I do understand why people are going to podcasts and going to places where it isn't all politics all the time.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Which is, but the funny thing is, I mean, I grew up in the San Francisco Bay Area. There were tourists from all over the world there all the time. I live in New York. There are people from all over the world. I mean, I see MAGA hats in Manhattan periodically, not all the time. But the people of this country, I mean, this is the other thing with the podcast. I think it's a mistake to cleave politics out of our life.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And get you. I think that's right. I think it won't happen here. Yeah, and I think it's too big. And I think people are like, oh, come on. We don't want that. We wanted Trump. We wanted the gold toilet and the hot wife and the, you know, I don't know, whatever else they think he has. But I don't think it'll happen here, but I do think we have to be vigilant. We don't have any more time to mess around.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“In it. I tell everybody, and I try to do this myself, to just stay close to your people, you know, check in on all your people. Everyone in our own orbits is going through something with a sick parent or a kid that's struggling or a difficult transition, either, you know, kid going off to college. So just take care of your people. And then if you can sort of be sunshine to somebody or be the person that checks in with everybody, taking care of the things you can control is, to me, what has been advice that I was given and that I give out and that I try to practice every day to make everything else feel less overwhelming.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Twice, two or three times, right? So I think Whitmer is interesting. I think Shapiro is interesting. And I find them more interesting than politicians from reliably blue states because they do centrist. It's not even centrist. It's just more about the governing. I mean, I think the stuff Shapiro did of just getting the bridge back. People in their lives view partisanship as a luxury. In their lives, they want to be able to afford housing, school, higher education, if that's their kid's dream, baseball uniform. I mean, it's why they're the manual.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“On the Democratic side, it's funny. There are a lot that I'm not that interested in talking to when they call and they're like, so-and-so is free. I'm like, hmm, I think I'd rather talk to Tim Miller. But look, I think that Josh Shapiro is a very interesting governor, right? Like, I don't, I don't know that he's interested in stepping into the national political debate every day, but he's been any one, I think, with the biggest bipartisan majorities in Pennsylvania, which is a big swing state. I think swing state elected officials are very interesting. Yeah, I mean, swing state elected Democrats have won people that pick Trump.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Reminded me that Obama had immigration protesters outside the White House every day for eight years, and they only left when Trump won. I mean, you have to figure out how to appeal and excite a majority of the electorate and win before you can make policies that are better than the ones that your opponent is pushing. And I think that the Democrats have, they've not come up way short, but they've come up short enough to, you know, to lose twice.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So I resist giving Democrats any advice. I am sort of a guest in their coalition because they are on the side of democracy and there isn't another pro-democracy game in town. I am surprised that this is hard, though, because I think if you're a normal person who lives a normal life, who's at the grocery store, and there are some that are very good at this. I mean, I think Pete Butta Judge is very good at this. I think Amy Klovichar is good at this. I think Gavin Newsom has had a very easy time communicating what is wrong with disappearing people off the streets and deploying the National Guard. I think they need to just do. And I think that people rail against consultants. I mean, consultants aren't the whole problem, but if you're relying on them to figure out how to just do, that's the problem. And you have to be everywhere. They should be everywhere. They should be in every podcast that will have them. Because to your point, you're going to, if you win, you're going to represent everyone. I talked to folks close to Obama after the election.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So it's like I understand with the Republicans have done to themselves. I don't understand the Democratic Party that way. I have voted with them enthusiastically in 1620 and 24. And I can't imagine supporting a Republican because a Republican Party has moved away from small Democracy.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, this is where I can speak with experience about everything that's happened to the Republican Party. The Republicans have said more awful things about Donald Trump than I've ever said on my show in nine years. JD Vance called him America's Hitler.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And you talk to anyone under 20 and the whole fixation with identity is not where their heads are. There are soccer players or musicians or band members and they include gay, straight, trans, you know, I mean, that decentering is also how the next generation views identity. It's almost a relic of our politics to get wrapped around stuff.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Virtual elements to them. I think, I mean, you do a lot of live events. I think we should all be doing that. And I think we just have to make our chambers or our communities more inviting, pull more people in and visit other people's because I think the chamber itself is a comfort to some people and it's probably a better use of our time to visit others. Yeah, bring a pie, bring, you know, bring a ham.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“He's so smart, too smart. I think that Echo Chamber is another word for community. And I actually think you have to lean into your community. And I think that you have to make your echo chamber, your community more inviting, you know, like a baseball game. You can order from your seat or like a spa. I just think you have to make your community more appealing and you have to reach out and invite more people into it. I also think you should go visit other people's echo chambers. I don't think they should be so sealed. I think they should be more porous. And so I think that echo chambers get a bad rap, but I actually think they're communities that people form to make sense of the world and they have social implications. And I think they give people a lot of comfort. I think they became more hardened after COVID when people were really isolated. And so their echo chambers became their communities online. And I think we have to break down some of the”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I think whenever someone's using, well, so, I mean, SNL, I work for the Bushes, who Bush 41 was dear, dear friends with Dana Carvey. I mean, there was a real affinity, and Will Farrell had played W and there was a real appreciation for the role of humor. I think Trump might be our first president who's enraged by all of it”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, and be in different ways. And I think that's why I'm here. That's why there's a podcast. And I think that even during the Bush years, which feels like forever ago and there was no Twitter, but the late night shows were so, I mean, Letterman drove public opinion as powerfully as NBC Nightly News.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Oh, I think news engagement is up. I just think it's spread out over more. I've had more people are paying attention and I bet more”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, it's another thing that depends on norms, right? You depend on the character of the people that have trust with the audience. And this is to me the new moonshot. How do you make the content that goes around the world in a nanosecond, the content that isn't tear the society apart? I mean, you tell me, how do you do that”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“She doesn't like Nicole Wallace either. Let She was, I watched her every night at nine o'clock. I mean, she's one of the best to ever do cable, to ever do the news. And now I don't watch her anymore, but I thought her observations about where”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right. And I think that's why you and I mean, we could count them here you, the Atlantic, the New York Times. Yeah, right. I mean, there's, you can kind of one hand. Right. The news organizations that have, and that's why independent media is flourishing. I would say this, I am attracted to all of the independent media. I think without Trump, it would still be where all this is going. Megan Kelly did an interview with the New York Times and she was talking about the way the industry is that if you're and you're in the same position, that if you have this direct relationship with your viewer, your reader, your consumer, that in a lot of ways that's more pure. And I think that's right.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, it'll be, yeah, and we'll see. Yeah, we'll see. I mean, we'll see if that makes it harder or easier. I really don't know.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, you can count on one hand, the news organizations that have withstood the pressure. And I think so far we are one of them. And I would credit the leadership of our company.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It was his address, and he had this lovely young man who wanted to be a cop and he was a cancer survivor in his beautiful moment. And I sort of mixed up talking about how genuinely beautiful that moment was with a critique of Trump's treatment of the cops, which I shouldn't have mixed the two things. I regret doing it. But at the time and Maggat and the White House went crazy. They attacked me and Rachel. And I work for a person who, you know, protected me, had me on, you know, on the air feeling confident and as though my company would stand behind me. It's just a long way of saying, I think that I am ill-suited to talk about the business side of the industry, but well suited to talk about my own experience coming under fire from Trump and MAGA at my company. And I think you are, there are currents and there are movements and they're all pushing against the media, no doubt.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Which I thought was a boneheaded political statement. But it's true in this context, we are all only as protected as the people for whom we work. And you and I talked about this before. I mean, I am fortunate to work for someone. And this has been tested. I said something viewed as controversial by the MAGA write. And they came for me in a minute. Trump attacked me in the Oval Office. This was at his sort of political apex. It was in March of this year. Rob was a toddler.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“He's made a lot of progress. It's been five months. He's made a lot of progress. Now it's resulted in something Rachel focuses on every week and every day when she was anchoring every night. The people are not. Behind it. They're taking to the streets in historic numbers, but he has successfully moved the country away from democratic norms quickly and efficiently. And the only people really pushing back are the courts.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I mean, it goes back to what his mirrors are. Is he looking at the stock market? Does he care about that anymore? I don't know. So I don't know. This is where I really, you know, my discipline and mantras to not get too far ahead of the story. I think the warning was apt. I think he has successfully pursued all the paths that people like Tim Snyder and Ruth and others warned about. And I think the only question is how far does he get?”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, I think he's been successful at moving the country away from our democratic norms. And I think it begs the question, what else are you going to leave to the norms? They don't do any good when you have a wannabe autocrat.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, when I was on maternity leave, I wasn't reading the news every day. And I reread on tyranny and I read Ruth Benguiet's book. And I was like, oh my God, yeah, all this stuff is happening. And so when I came back, I had a little bit of that perspective and we had all these autocracy experts on. And what's amazing to me is that Trump has done so many of the things they warned. I mean, and he didn't have to. I mean, he won and Republicans swept both houses. So the thing about autocracy is you have to opt into it. You don't stumble into it. A country can stumble into it, but a leader can't. It's harder and less popular. So taking on the universities, destroying scientific research, destroying private law firms, ruling by intimidation, destroying the Department of Justice, taking over the FBI with political sycophants. I mean, these were all things we warned.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“More, as you said, folksy was where the party was heading. And maybe if she was a man, she would have defeated Donald Trump in a primary. You know, we just weren't, the party wasn't ready to sort of embrace her and elevate her, or she wasn't ready to run to take over the party. But I think that what happens in 08 is the party fractures from its past to its future.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“To the Republican Party It had become and where it was heading. And in terms of it could happen here was about something a little different. I mean, that was about the Republican Party sort of plunging into something darker than what we thought it was. But the voters obviously thought that was baloney and they thought that there was maybe nothing darker than the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and free trade that didn't help them. So, you know, that might be in the eye of the beholder. But certainly the celebration of someone”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“She became cartoonish. And I think that the lesson of Palin. Was that the party fractured in that moment, and we just didn't know it, right? So it fractured right between the top of the ticket and the bottom of the ticket. It was fractured between the nominee for president and the nominee for vice president. And that fracture played out in the campaign. And when you're on a campaign and it's so raw, you think it's about you. But it was really about the cleaving off of the Republican Party from its past, which was embodied by John McCain and his future, which was embodied by Sarah Palin. Now, the fact that Sarah Palin didn't grab the party's future and run with it is all about Sarah Palin. I mean, I think to this day, attacker advisors, like, I haven't seen her since 08. So she's been free of us for almost 20 years and has never mustered a successful run for anything. But she was on the night that the election was called for President Obama. She was the rightful heir.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, I think because I had visibility into the things that were happening in Palin's rallies, I wasn't surprised that that was surfacing in the base of the Republican Party. And Bush had warned about it, nativism and isolationism are these isms that are always under the surface and we have to watch out for them. But I think you're always impressed and surprised when someone confronts it at their own event And I think this is where the Republicans have lost their way. It's become this dysfunctional codependency where the base will tolerate increasingly craven activity. So Mike Lee sends a violent, hateful message after someone's assassinated. You know, it's become a dysfunctional codependent.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I was standing 10 feet away from him, and look, he disagreed with President Obama on the issues that meant the world to him on foreign policy. And it was like a very robust policy debate between two men who were in the same body, but believed in very different things. McCain was the first to rush out at that event. I was sitting like 10 feet away from him and correct his own support or when she impugned President Obama's sort of loyalty to the country and the Constitution and his character. And you just can't imagine that happening anymore, can you?”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, they've all laughed, they've all removed themselves from the arena, either because it hurts too much or it's too dangerous. Mitt Romney might have been the last one. And they've all removed themselves, Liz. They've all removed themselves or been removed by the base of the Republican Party from the arena.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“He would have, I don't know if he would have been surprised. I think he had. I think he was so complicated in part because he saw the dark and the light, but I think he would have fought against it.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Republicans like Republicans who are more popular because they're viewed as more powerful. And think about all of the people who say, nah, I'm not going to sound a grace note. I'd rather just be a dick. And that's what's really disappointing. Yeah.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, I try not to be surprised. Something happened to him. I remember Senator Lee used to be a normal Republican, and he has slowly drifted to something unrecognizable. I mean, he's drifted towards something not purely small Democratic over the recent years, but this is something. This is in your character. I think if you celebrate the murder of anybody. But I think when it's someone from the other political party, forget about all the damage you do with the sadistic celebration of the violence. Think about the missed opportunity to elevate yourself. It's like, it's a be graceful for 15 minutes. It hurts nobody. It might help you. Right.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's an atrocity. And it's a one party problem, largely. When the attempt on Trump's life broke, there was universal condemnation and relief that he was okay. And frankly, praise for how he handled himself in the moment. On the other side, there's what you just described.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They don't care and they don't care about these institutions. But I think Medicaid might be different. I think the result of this bill, according to CBO, is that 16 million people lose their health insurance. And I think if Bannon had prevailed in sort of the Bannon Musk clash over Trump's soul at the beginning, I don't think this bill would exist. But here we are. And I think that the consequences of this, the political ones will be felt a little bit in the beginning, but not really until people start suffering. And I think Trump is obsessed with, you know, not my voters, you know, or storm hits or those my voters. There's no way to protect his voters from losing health care. None. And so I think the politics are disastrous in the near term and the long term for Republicans.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Very unpopular. It's very unpopular. I think at the end of the day, there's nothing Republicans have defied him on. I mean, they confirm cash Patel and Heg says with bipartisan opposition.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Everybody that you don't know, and I think it's hard to, I have been amazed by some of the early reporting around individual deportations. Carol in Missouri, in an all red town, in all red county, and in all red state, Carol's deported, the town goes batshit to get her back. She's been released in Texas. There's some incredible reporting in the New York Times about local businesses who've had their workers deported and these MAGA bubbles inside MAGA states have hated it. And you're in California where Marines are, I mean, Jacob Severoff has spent the last two days with a Marine who fought for his country and has been in the streets since the ice raids started, saying, look, I was willing to die for my country. This is not American.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know, would have uncovered in a first term. Now it's just all out in the open. Maybe there's less that he's trying to hide.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Hospitality Correct. And I think the relief that I felt when I saw that he was not interested in deporting farm workers, I mean, these are people that I'm from California. Yeah. And they are so central to the economy, not just in California, but all over the country. But he is really at a policy level more erratic than ever. And maybe it's because there's not as much that breaks in terms of investigative journalism. He's doing it all out in the open. He had the crypto investors to the White House. You could imagine that being the kind of thing that the times or the.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But there don't seem to be a ton of stories like that where he seems to want to try to manage the news cycle in the middle of it.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think look, in some ways it's a relief, right? I mean, he used to watch Morning Joe and I used to watch too, just to see what was going to set him off that day. And I think he probably still watches, but he seems much more focused on self-enrichment unless a story is big enough to get under his skin. And the Elon Musk story looks so bad. The world's richest man who seemed indiscriminately cut funds that went to programs that kept the poorest people on the planet, the most desperate people on the planet alive. A fight between the two greatest villains at the pro democracy movement has ever seen in this country was a debacle. And he seemed aware of how bad that was. He seemed to try to get into that news cycle in a way that was more reminiscent of his first term”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“By the success. Look, I've been surprised by the lack of attention that he seems to pay to the things that he was obsessed with last time. He was obsessed with cable coverage of himself. He was obsessed with New York Times and Washington Post coverage of himself. He was obsessed with the stock market undulations. Now, other than the alarm bells that went off when he threatened to fire Jerome Powell, he doesn't seem to really ride the market, highs and lows. And I'm not on X anymore, so I don't see all of the sort of ebbs and flows anymore of MAGA world. But Trump doesn't seem as agitated by press coverage and market twists and turns as he used to, but he does seem to be aware of the political pressure bearing against him. And I think the fight with Musk is an example of that. I mean, he was aware of how bad that looked for both of them. They looked like assholes.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Does it matter politically? We'll see. I mean, I don't think you can get ahead of the story. And so I don't think we know.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, why? I mean, I think it answers a more important question about who's around him. And I think for people who, I was one of them, were constantly critical of the guardrails, people like H.R. McMaster, Dina Powell, or John Kelly, you know, how could they stay? How could they work for someone like that? They were there to keep Trump from escalating with Kim Jong-un, from a...”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think that he is choosing on popular things with more popular things right there for the taking. I don't think the shows of force are necessary. At the end of the day, the men and women of the National Guard are patrolling their own streets. That's a terrible story for Trump.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And their ideals and their values from the moment he was on that excess Hollywood tape through good people on both sides, through big, beautiful Bill, through all that, they've never abandoned him because he doesn't share their principles or policies. So if I were him and he had to decide Where to compromise, I would guess that Trump would feel most confident abandoning the elected Republican establishment.”
2025-06-19 · On with Kara Swisher · MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT