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“Yeah, LinkedIn is the ideal, but you can also find me on Twitter if you're just trying to follow me, follow me on LinkedIn if you're looking for feedback, just tweet me.”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And then how listeners can help me? I mean, one is one you can build the most fulfilling career story and be your best, but also give back and pull others forward, whether that's through your Act three or whether that's just helping others. I mean, I think that would be the most fulfilling to me. I think feedback from your listeners to me on things they wish I would spend time talking about is incredibly empowering for my content because then I can deliver more meaningful content and it's very different from yours, but I think it's all around the arc of trying to help people gain forward and be more effective tech professionals. So I would love to hear from your listeners.”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'm building this brand around the skip because I'm so passionate. There's two outlets that people can easily connect. One is the podcast, which, you know, much like yourselves is available on Apple and Spotify and others. So I'd love for people to join my podcast in here. What I'm now moving my podcast to is almost like coaching calls because I have so many of them. I'm saying like, hey, 30 minutes, let me walk you through a problem and hear how I'm thinking about it, whether it's a transition discussion or compensation discussion, et cetera. And then the other one is this sort of newsletter that I have on SubStack, which is a bit of a mirror of the podcast. It's different forms of the same topic areas. So love for your listeners to connect with that. I think as far as getting in touch with me, LinkedIn is where I spend most of my time professionally. And so between Twitter and LinkedIn, my presence is relatively easy to find.”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Here's a problem I solved, here's the skill I built, here's the headwind I faced. Here's what I did to overcome it. Use I in the sentence. Do not use we. We will do good things. You are who we are thinking about your career. We're not looking for we. Master the story now. Understand the story. If the story sucks, you probably should be thinking through how to make the story not suck. But that to me is a very good career decision. And I think everyone is building their story today. I want to know that story. I want that story to be incredibly compelling because whether you promote it or not, that story is compelling, you'll be promoted in career. And that's what we're for.”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Ensure that the story you will tell about the work you're doing today. Is meaningful for your skip job So, if you sit down and you write down. In six months, in twelve months, in twenty four months, when I achieve or finish this role, Here's the paragraph”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The system can't see it. So I'm a huge fan of rebooting meetings first. So process first, then people, then product, then strategy is sort of the notion I make. And this is this first thing I always do.”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Like we're on version seven in my team. And so we're like, hey, version 7, every 90 days, these are the meetings, these are the discussions, this is how we organize, these are the attendees. And then here's how we make decisions. This is the cadence of the week. This is when people can work from home, hybrid, whatever it might be. And then I take feedback two months in, and then every three months we make another rev. And what it finds is that people then can plan and they can make meeting time effective. And meeting time is such precious time. It's the most expensive time in a company. So when I was in a startup, I couldn't imagine doing this. But now this is like my bread and butter as a leader. It's the process part. And frankly, for new folks that are new in leadership positions in a new company, it's the one thing you can do when you have low context. When you don't know how the product works, you can look at things with fresh eyes and see an efficiencies when everyone that's been in.”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“A little bit of this is just because of scale, but oftentimes we think a lot about the products and the features and the decisions that we're working on. And then we think that meetings are a nuisance or a must-have, necessary evil to be able to deliver. Sometimes I realize that at a scaled organization, the meeting operating system is as important as the products that we're building because it sort of speaks to how we scale and how we ensure we have the right degree of delegation, the right conversations, and then the right acceleration on the right decisions. So what's interesting is every quarter in my current teams and even in my past teams, I talk about our meetings like a product.”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And they've got gajillions of people using it and billions of installs. And so at some point, you kind of come to the conclusion that this is probably good enough. And then you see a product obviously built with a much smaller team. And you're like, huh, there actually is opportunities to innovate. And anytime you see a innovation on something that's mature as a product person, I think that's just fascinating. And I was just blown away at how they created something that's better than something I hold as a truism.”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The geeky answer in me is the Arc browser. Which I think probably a lot of folks are starting to use that you're a listeners. Part of the reason is, I think it's just great for folks that have hundreds of tabs. And if you work at a scaled organization, you just have lots of tabs. But I think it's also as a product guy. I thought Chrome was pretty good.”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'm always looking for people to break this sort of interview mindset. Everyone always prepares for interviews and then their entire conversation is predicting what you think you want me to say. And as a result, you can have high quality people that you dismiss because they weren't genuine. There's no way to answer that question without being genuinely opinionated. Because it starts with what is the thing that you think I want to sit here and then tell me why it's inaccurate. So when I break that wall, I'm testing, is this person authentic? Because sometimes I'm dismissing them because they gave me, they told me nothing new. But I don't want the interview process to penalize them. And this was my save question. I can't use it now that I've told everyone.”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Like the format of what's something that everyone takes for granted that you think is Essentially hogwash or inaccurate. You know, sometimes I'll ask a manager, look, you've managed hundreds of people in your career, what's conventional wisdom that you bet against, that you have found actually inaccurate. And you could do that for what do people think about AI that's inaccurate that everyone believes. You could do that for domains. You can do all kinds of things.”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'm a huge sports fan. So I have tickets to the Warriors and the Niners, and I am a big Bay Area sports fan. And Yannis is my son's favorite player. He's a basketball player for the Milwaukee Bucks. And they have this Disney Plus story called The Rise Story. And it's a story about his childhood and how he struggled to. Family show, and it's a great kind of zero to hero type thing. So I love that story.”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, and I think that marketing is a language of connecting products with people. And that is what a product manager does, but we often lack the language. We lack the thinking around how to explain it. And yet we spend all our time on data and features for the diversity of having both playbooks can make one just a much more powerful builder. So I agree with you. Marketing folks probably some of the best content at the least listened to. So maybe that's a plug for people to go back to those episodes.”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That was very powerful when I listened to it in my late 20s. And so I encourage all of your listeners to grab that one. It's not one that anyone normally would hit, but it's a fun story. It's a good ride. And, you know, I think maybe you'll get something out of it”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Two in both business books. I'm sorry, I'm going to come across boring, but one is a sort of a little bit of an old school book called Crossing the Chasm by Geoffrey Moore. I don't know if other speakers have spoken about this, but it's a book that Jeffrey Moore wrote, and it's a book that really talks about how to get your first product on base. So it's this concept of creating a beachhead. And so I like that concept. It's so marketing is something that we don't talk about enough in product. And then the second one is a book that none of your listeners have actually probably heard of called Leadership in Self-Deception. And it's a six hour audio that I highly recommend. And it's a story about a person who has hit a wall and who's getting all this feedback that they don't know what to make of. And it's around their mindset being stuck in a box.”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You know, many have asked me about this. I would say that I'll use the word and then I'll tell you I won't use that word. So it is around my passion around coaching and giving to others. But because I'm a product person, because I've seen success in building products, thinking about scale, thinking about community, I definitively plan to devote my Act three towards coaching and giving to others and lifting up those that with the right advice at the right time can change their trajectory. But scaling that and doing that in a way that is very authentic is really the hardest part and it's a product problem. And so that's what I'll devote 30 years to. And I look forward to that every day.”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Boy, if you're going to work on an Act III and you have 30 years, regardless of where you are economically, if you feel like you can take that off the table, if you can find ways to give however that means to you, however that translates to you is that content, is that volunteer, is that starting a company that is more mission-based, that is not my role. But I think that if you are able to do that for 30 years and be giving, you not only is that going to be more fulfilling than your Act I and Act 2, but it's tremendous for society, very empowering, and that's where I commend you because you're giving through your passion, but also making a livelihood. And I think that that's a very powerful blend that is hard to achieve in one and act two given constraints, and that's the liberation that act.”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Think that All variations here Come into two categories. One categories are ways to drive more scaled economics. I've made millions. My North Star is to now make it tens. I've made tens my North Star is to do hundreds. That's what drives people from it's not entrepreneurship, it's investing, it's not investing, it's private equity, et cetera. Whether we describe that as a bad quest or a good quest is a decision for your listener. The other arc is around giving. And Eastern philosophies that have been around for thousands of years talk about this as the sort of end state of happiness. I think that maybe to be provocative, I think that it's okay for you in Act 1 and Act 2 to not predicate yourself around the notion of giving to others because this is maybe the time on the planet where you need to take and you need to create”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And so, this is the reason why when you hit your skip, keep looking for the next skip is the point I'm trying to make. And I think you're an inspiration for a lot of folks who have seen you transition and realize is life after just being a tech professional entrepreneur, there's got to be ways to do more of this for all of your listeners. And I think it's never too early to start thinking through it. It's actually quite powering to think that you have such a long career. You can make mistakes and you can do some amazing things down the road.”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Your story is, I think, very inspiring because what you did is you said, I think the thing that I want to do is give, but I want to do it in my own way and I want to create something. But I want to do something that I think I can do for 30 years. And I want to do it and it has lots and lots of spokes to it. And so you reinvented yourself professionally, but you created a new North Star. My sense is for every one of you, Lenny, there's a hundred that could do that, that could do giving, that could do things that could scale, but that end up falling into what got them to be.”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Probably need to start working on that North Star now. What's the second thing? What's your career next look like? How do you ensure that you are always going to have something important and motivating to do with your career? Otherwise, you'll keep working because you're doing, but you'll be sadder. Or you'll find ways to create war when peace is needed. Or you'll spend money in an attempt to earn more. Or you'll find habits that are bad. And I really want us to have long, 60 or 70 year careers, not just 30 year or 10 year, which is why I enter this into the vocabulary out there.”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And the reason why they wouldn't run again is because there was like, well, what's next? I've achieved what I was looking for. And so I think this happens a ton is like your listeners are spending time focused on like, well, one day I will be X. I will be that vice president. I will have more money. I will have built something. I will have started a company. But they don't think about like what happens next. And when it happens and they succeed, they're North Star, their entire way of wiring their career themselves. It has been around like getting to that place. And I think that if you're going to get there 30 years in and you have a 60 year career, a lot of the discussion I've been having with myself and with others has been”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Fake rabbits. And what was interesting is the moment that the dogs, if they accidentally touched the rabbit, the sort of the tail, you know, because the machine broke, because these tails would go around faster than the dogs, which would then motivate the dogs to go around in circles. Sometimes the machines would break. The dogs would actually catch the rabbit. They were never run again.”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Through. So this Act three could be a thing And I don't think we talk about Act three enough. And what often happens is, and this is what I've been watching for people that are at my age, is they sort of succeed and then they become lost. And they almost go hand in hand. So when I was a kid and I was growing up in the Midwest, Entertainment was like going to the dog tracks and not even the horse tracks. We didn't have horses. So it was the dog, Greyhound dog tracks. And so people would, you know, bet on a dog and greyhound would go around the ring and then you would see, you know, I bet on number three and I'll make a buck or something. And the way that they motivated the dogs was they had these fake rabbits, which sounds kind of cruel and horrible. So I don't want the SPSA to come after you. But the point is that they'd have these like”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What I've noticed is that if you kind of break career as we've done in this podcast between sort of act one, act two, and act three, if act one is sort of learning and being that sort of builder and then maybe building the car and then act two is building the factory, act three is like what's after that. What do you do after that? And I think that Act three in the past wasn't as long as it is now before people would proverbially retire in their 60s when they used to actually physically work. Now, almost all your listeners sit at a desk all day. So they don't need to retire by any means. And health is getting better. You might see folks work until their 70s or 80s. So that means that their careers are, you know, potentially 60 years long. So even if you're 20 years or 30 years in your career, you're only halfway.”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, this is a story that I don't think is told very well right now, and partly because it's such a luxury problem. It's almost a little embarrassing to discuss it openly, as so many people struggle with so many basic needs going through layoffs, going through all these challenges. I mean, these are real issues. But I think that.”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You got it. You got it. Because I had a lot of feedback that I was dismissing, and then I had feedback from someone. I'm like, That person, I should listen to because they're giving me the feedback for the right reasons and they have the right language.”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I'm going to be doing this for like 30 more years. It's kind of worth it to figure out if they're right. If they're wrong, then you don't lose. And that's what kind of forced it. And then the tooling starts. Then you start talking through, you know, my self-awareness was strong enough that I was able to say, okay, now that I understand it, I had some peer feedback that helped bring it home from someone I trusted. So that was like a kind of a linchpin to this. These are tough, tough things to break through. And oftentimes they don't come nicely, I guess is the point.”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I got a lot of setback. I get a lot of negative feedback. I had a lot of abrupt challenges at work where folks would say, you know, you're not collaborating well. Your peers don't have the same level of respect as they should. And I was like, are you kidding me? That's not who I am. These things that are being said are completely wrong. I was like very much struggling. And that's when I said, you know what? I can struggle and blame others, but what if they were right?”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That I was as an entrepreneur very opinionated. About using small amounts of information to make decisions. And then I was very good at driving those things. And so when you become an entrepreneur, you're great at grit, you're great at opinion, you're great at being decisive. And then as an executive, you spend a lot of time making sure everyone has context. Everyone is heard. Your opinions are actually edited, collect for the collective for good reason. And it's not just to placate. It's actually to improve. But as someone who's basically been right a lot, That requires almost a complete. And you're like, well, that's not who I am. And I'm like, okay, you start with the sentence like that's not who you am. You're definitely doing it right when you hit your leadership.”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Didn't mean that I became a weaker executive, but it was my opinions that got me to be so successful. And it required me to rewire who I was as an executive. And that took a lot of time and a lot of energy. But it came from this realization. And then I started to apply it for other strength areas. And now every time I have a strength area in myself for those that I coach, I immediately talk through all the things that I bet you exist. And most of the time we're right.”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Absolutely. This exact thing applies to relationships. This replies to companies. This applies to a lot, and I'm so happy that I was able to learn about it. And frankly, it was a critical unlock for me because it took me, I was stuck on something for years. And I just could not understand how, for me, it was I was very opinionated about something. And then I realized being loosely held on my opinions.”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Things that were discarded are anomalies because there are artifacts of my strength. And often your managers are the ones that do the discarding. That was just a weird, that person, they were just into it. They have it out for you. They got reordered and they were upset. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Perception's reality. Talk to me about that. That might be it. That's what I'm looking for.”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, you don't need a coach. What you do need is to listen to contradictory feedback. So, what was the premise here is you're being told that something that you hold as your strength is actually in your way or a development area. Do not dismiss that. Recognize most likely you're doing it correctly. You just have gotten to the next level. So what I'm hoping the listener does is it goes back through all the feedback that they may even have and then looks at all the discard stuff. What's on the discard pile?”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And then they take a long time to process, and then the work actually begins, and then they solve and they go. And almost everyone, once they have the name in the face, they are able to solve, but the face and the name is hard when it's sitting in the shadow of superpowers”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You're strong politically, but your decision is are unprincipled. You're a structured thinker, but blue sky innovations are very tough. You're an amazing listener, but you're very weak to be decisive, right? So I can go on forever. And what I would say to you is sometimes even in a 30-minute conversation, walking into the room, just knowing what I know about the person, I can unlock their development area faster than anyone ever before simply because my secret is I'll bet you because of this person's world class here. These are the three things they're going to hit and they don't even realize it. Because it's their identity. This is what got me here. If you make me work on that, you will make me change my superpower. And I'm like, that's why you're stuck. That's why your career's plateauing. And then they get sad.”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And sometimes it could be more extreme. You know, great collaborators sometimes are very reticent to present their own opinions because they're so good at assimilating others. Or people that are amazing at growth struggle to be innovative. People that are world class storytellers struggle to get into the details. People that are very taste makerish. They are always the first to have point of view. They don't necessarily introduce change particularly often.”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You're getting some feedback from your peers that you struggle in collaboration. And the manager even sometimes is puzzled, but the individual will say, are you kidding me? My last five performance reviews told me that I was one of the best collaborators in the company. How in the world is that possible? And then what you realize is that, well, you're collaborating as long as people agreed with your point of view. As a leader, we're asking you to be opinionated. And because you just think you're an amazing collaborator using the exact same tool set. And it turns out that when you're dealing with senior people that may not even be in your function, they may not be product, they may not be tech, they recoil. But you're moving so fast because it's your superpower, you would never think that this needs to be rebuilt.”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“This came from my kind of notes as I was talking to a therapist on this. They talked about the shadows of superpowers. I thought it was an incredibly powerful phrase that everyone focuses on your superpowers, but no one ever thinks about what shadows they create. Shadows of superpowers to me is the story of a lot of executives. There's an adage that's thrown around, which is what gets you there is and what got you here. And it's sort of the tools that have made you successful today. You need to almost rebuild or relearn to get to the next phase. And I think both of these sort of speak to the same point, that oftentimes people have a great superpower. They go into a performance review. Person says”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They would learn more from that community than they will learn from managing one random person that they were attached to managing in some project that may or may not see the light of day, yet that's how our society is programmed. Our industry is like, no, no, go manage that person because that's going to make you closer to the top. Forget learning. And I'm like, well, learning isn't happening. Learning's happening in your community. Learning is happening in our communities in general. That's why I'm pushing so hard on this.”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I think that that would be my put because so many of the managers will say, hey, I'm an IC. Here's a greater one. I am not being told I have the next job. I just was told to become an IC and I was a manager. I feel like my learning opportunities are stuck, but this is a bad time to look for a job. They should be in your community.”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, we have enough members now. There's a LinkedIn area called the Skip CPO community. And you should contact any of the members that you know and ask them to join. My request and my requirement is that they are number one product leaders in their organization. And a company that's not early, but that's mid to late. And the reason being is those sets of problems tend to be the most similar. To be honest, I think this is not the only community that I want to be part of and help create. But this one happens to be the pre-existing one. I think there are lots of powerful communities that can be created, but this particular one is very much focused on the Skip CPOs.”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Built this trust and community building is interesting and powerful work. And so six went to 12 and then 12 went to 15. And now we have 28 members. And a lot of folks are interested in these types of communities, but I'm so worried about scaling it because it's the enemy of trust and authenticity. And so for all of you that are building communities, it's like treaty balancing act. But I do think that the goal is to find ways to take all of these sort of like-minded folks that are in these same situations and connect them together. And late stage chief product officer happened to be one of the ones that had some of the most substantial importance to me because of all the coaching I did for that group.”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Through how to navigate this crazy world of year one, year two of chief product officer. I think you would really gain. I know all of you, and I think you can be safe with one another. Why don't we spend some time together? So we did a WhatsApp channel and we brought a Zoom call. And this was during the pandemic, so you really couldn't meet up. And, you know, we started talking. We started talking every month. And people were so empowered by the fact that the problem they were hitting was not just them. It was, you know, my crazy CEO is telling me this. And the next person is like, oh, yeah, let me tell you what my person said. And then they would say, oh my gosh, that sounds worse than my situation. But then we would sit down and say, hey, the third person said, I actually kind of had this and now I've figured out a way out. And here's what I did. And you're like, wow, that's amazing. I'm going to try it. The next day they come back. They're like, it works. And we started to connect and we.”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, and it was funny. It's all kind of fun products. There was always a reaction to something. They weren't really intentional. As you open the podcast, really enjoy teaching and coaching. I learned just as much from coaching others as they learn, I think. And yet I couldn't really scale. And so I had this summer where I had just come off of being a head of product and I had more and more of my people I was talking to were also head of products. And what would happen is I would have these conversations and they would ask me a question. I would say, well, that's the same conversation I answered on Tuesday. And what you realize is it's a very lonely job. Being lonely at the top is not just an adage. And it's really, everyone's so busy now. It's like, how do you have time to connect and everything so single player? You don't really have community. And so I thought, well, what if I took the half a dozen people I talked to this month and I just said, hey, all of you are all interested in talking.”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Part of an active community where they can be very authentic and very safe. And sometimes it's hard to do that with your coworkers. And so you need to find another community. Unfortunately, those communities are not the easiest to find today. But I believe that the notion of community as a powerful propellant for learning is the critical ingredient. And hopefully many people are creating these communities so that new managers can find the right services.”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And then there's community, which I think whether it's within your company or outside of company, I think is the answer that we'll see more and more. I think community as a way of creating safety, having authentic conversations, feeling that you're not alone, that others are going through the same thing, and then sharing best practices is so powerful. And what social software has done is it has really empowered community. And now the tools are awesome. How many great communities have Slack channels or Discord channels or Zoom calls? And we do a lot of that in the CPO community that I create. And whether you're a new manager or whether you belong to a diverse group, whether you are new to a company, I think that all of your listeners should be”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think I may have come across kind of hard on managers And I think I kind of said, hey, your manager's manager isn't really doing much teaching, you know, find the right podcast good luck. And I think that that's a pretty soulless answer. So maybe the way I describe it is, well, I think learning is changing and there's the self-service tools that are getting better. And then there's the structured teaching. which I think is weak.”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“A lot of your listeners like to build and actually when a lot they talk to their managers, they're like, I don't know if that job is awesome. You spend all your time writing docs and telling your boss's boss what a justify resources and headcount. Like I just want to build stuff. I don't want to, you don't build stuff. So it's, I think there might be some of that I think that it's not perfect, but I think hopefully Builder and IC will become more synonymous”
2023-06-11 · Lenny's Podcast · Building a long and meaningful career | Nikhyl Singhal (Meta, Google) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source