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Norma Kamali

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first: 2021-02-01
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“And I see a girl walking towards me in the most amazing way. And I kept looking at it and thinking, oh my God, it moves so beautifully. I really love that skirt. And as she was coming towards me, that was my skirt. And she must have been 19. So clearly that skirt was purchased by someone, either handed down to her mother, to her, or sold, then given to a vintage store that then sold it to someone. That skirt probably had had several lives. And here I was seeing it. And I wanted to stop her, but I thought, no, that's not what you're supposed to do. You're just supposed to look at it. And I had chills. I was so moved by it. I'll never forget that moment.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Of all, yes, you have to work really hard. And the way you work really hard is that you're doing what you love it so much that you don't feel like you're working hard and that you have good relationships because the last thing you want to do is burn bridges and relationships at 75 and 53 years in the business, the one thing I can tell you is do not burn a bridge because that bridge is going to come around again. You're going to see All those people again, you cannot believe how everything comes round. But I also think, I hope I don't sound too crazy or woo-woo, but I do think the universe has a big plan for us. And you can call it luck, but I think it's even more than that. I think we do things because That's what we should be doing.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know, it's really interesting. I look at Norma Kamali almost as this other person, right? I think that Norma Kamali contributes to the fashion industry. I like to think people are comfortable in a casual lifestyle in their clothing because of maybe something I did with sweats. I'm like that little speck that gets things activated and then it becomes something bigger and much bigger than I am. I certainly don't want to have like My name on it to feel better. I just sort of feel that's pretty cool. I like that. I like that that's happening. I like that people are wearing sweats now at home. And everybody's saying they're going to never wear sweats again. Sorry. I don't believe you. I know you're going to wear sweats again.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Oh, totally. I mean, the industry has been fragile for a long time. And many changes needed to be made. And this only forced them to happen sooner rather than later. And talk about stressful. If you did not have a significant part of your business on e-commerce, you were going to get beaten up pretty badly. Fortunately, since Walmart, I did so well on e-commerce there, I thought, okay, my next collection, I'm focusing on e-commerce from now on. And so I have been, and my company, the big, big, big percentage is e-commerce. And we've really redefined ourselves as a company.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So I feel that I'm in the place where I can communicate and help educate what aging is about and whether it's a 20-year-old that feels like she's getting old or a 30-year-old, 40-year-old, 50-year-old, the idea of getting old should be part of the passage in a woman's life, not something to fear, but something to cherish because of the knowledge and the experience you gain in each of these decades.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, she's absolutely right. You know, anti-wrinkle, anti-aging, all of that just drives me and your mother crazy. Okay? I will speak for her.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, thank you very much. So we all have a different schedule. We all have a different timeline and one should never judge theirs by others. I am very fortunate that I did end up finding someone who is my soulmate. I'm happy that it was at this point in my life because honestly, I wasn't ready earlier. And I think the universe just is checking things out for us and helping make the right decisions like meeting your soulmate at 65.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The book is called I Am Invincible, and what I do is I share my life experiences through the decades. And so the goal of the book is to help women get With some tools and information and aging with power is sort of the headline of the book in that you can get better with age and that at 75, I love the fact that I'm so much smarter now than I ever was and that I do things now to serve my purpose in this lifetime, which is a very freeing experience.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I actually had a website in between 95 and 98 where I started to really kind of want to be because I was so comfortable with computers and because of the airlines and I understood what you could do with this kind of technology. I just wanted to jump right in right away. And of course it was way early. I do well when I'm doing a lot of different things because I find each of them inspires the other and keeps things very exciting. Remember, I haven't changed my job in 53 years. I've had the same job. And so when I'm interested and I see something is an opportunity that can use creativity and technology, I am super excited about it. I love VR. I love some of the amazing directions we can go in. This is a very exciting time, inventive time. This is going to be bigger than the 60s were.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so I remember when I was doing a t shirt designs for them, and I see 650 units and I said, I don't know, that doesn't seem like it's going to be enough. And they said, well, that's 650,000 units. And I was like, oh, okay. All right, I get it. And so the quality of the clothes was exactly the quality I wanted. The fabric was the fabric I wanted. And why so? Because when you order $650,000, you can get the quality you want and the fabric you want. That's a tremendous amount of power. My experience at Walmart was extraordinary.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I don't drive a car, so I'm not, you know, I'm like a New York girl, so I'm looking at this thing and I'm like, holy mackerel. So then I meet some really smart people. We have these great conversations and they want to have a fashion line for Walmart. And I said, I don't think so. I don't think that's a good idea. I'm just saying. And a little over a year later, I got a call from them. It appears that they did do a fashion line for Walmart and it didn't work. And somebody that was at that meeting said, we have to talk to Norma, but this time we'll come to see you. So they said, what is in your mind? What are you thinking about? And I told them that I thought that they should have The core of a wardrobe, like a trench coat, a white shirt, a black trouser, a jacket, all the basics.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, and he said, I'm going to ask you something, and I don't want you to say no right away. He said, I'm working at Walmart and I want you to come and meet me here. And I said, oh, I don't, I really don't think so. And he said, I know you would like this meeting. I know you're going to like it just for the experience you have to come. So I said, okay, I trust your judgment on that. So I get on a plane and then you take that little plane to Walmart, Tibetanville, and I go to my first Walmart superstore. And I am blown away. I have never, I mean, I'm a New York City girl.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'll tell you. So, first of all, when Halston made a decision to do a big box, I think it was pennies, it killed his career. And so, you know, word has always been you don't want to get involved with those because for your reputation, it's not good. But I love to meet people and listen to ideas and what they are offering. So if people approach me about something, I probably, nine times out of ten will have the conversation. I always learn something from it.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Affordable. So to me, value is also really important, that you're able to pay the rent and still have something you love. And, you know, the idea of somebody buying a $5,000 handbag and not having any money to do anything else is like insanity. So for me beautiful clothes don't have to be expensive.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, my philosophy has been the same all these years. So I was believing in clothes that felt good on knits clothes that you could wash and not dry clean, fun clothes, clothes that you could be active in. I've always I'm still that same person. I'm wearing sweats as we speak. to feel good in clothes. I don't want to feel uncomfortable. I don't even want to think about my clothes. But the most important thing is that it's not precious. You can wear it anytime. You don't have to hang it on a special hanger or it's going to get wrinkled. That to me is so not on the list of what I'm going to do.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Talks to the lawyer, the whole thing, and this is recent. So last week I said, this is what I want to do. I don't want to have negative conversations about somebody knocking me off. The only thing I care about is that she makes the dress in a good way. The way she's making it is so ugly and poorly made that what I want to do is drop all of the charges against her and I'm going to send her a pattern of the dress with instructions on how to make it. And I said, and you know what? Now she's not taking advantage of me. I gave her a gift and that's it. That's my attitude at this point about knocking off. I mean, it's just so pervasive though.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And the dress can be worn in a hundred different ways, it's easy care, and I have a whole video showing the way you wear it. And her whole website is this dress. The video she did of all the ways you could wear it, and that she is the creator of the dress. And she even came to my store to see what was going on, the whole thing. hear about this and she is a very small business and my CFO says we have to you know we have to put a stop to this she can't make these claims so he”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“To be honest, it's sort of a way of life in the fashion industry. There's a whole most of the industry Copies and for me, I've always thought I'm not going to get upset about it. I have another idea, so I don't have to worry that they took that idea. But when it comes to your survival in the business, that's when you start to get anxious about it. Now, you know, people still copy me. In fact, there's this young designer who in 2016 she opened, did a website and she based her website on a dress I designed in 1973 that I still sell called the all-in-one.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Rain slickers Fun ones, and they did a big ad promotion, everything, and they still hadn't gotten their shipment. And I was on my way home, and I passed a store on 14th Street like a Schlocky junk store. With a rolling rack outside of the yellow slickers, of my yellow slickers. And I said, What is happening with the distribution? Why are there no controls? And I remember I was told you're only a pimple on an elephant's ass, and that's how big their company was. And I thought, oh, okay, I think this is the time to. Hang it”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“As it got bigger and bigger, the quality control diminished. And that's not good for me, right? That's not good for my reputation. And then the distribution wasn't controlled. I remember Saxe was complaining because I did these big yellow slickers, right? They were really big with buffalo check, flannel buffalo check inside. These are...”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But I said, I don't need a lot of money. I just need my independence, and how can I maintain that? What can I do to maintain that, but still keep my brand in a good place? A walking away, as we all know, is a very important thing to do at the very right time. And it is the hardest thing to do. Those were the times that really saved me from really bad situations.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Easily, yes It became global. I had licenses in Japan, in Europe, in the US. I had 30 licenses for everything covering accessories. The whole deal. And that's when I really learned how to negotiate, how to manage a bigger kind of company. There comes a point when you get too much attention that you get scared and you think this is going to be the end of me because it's going to be too much. And so after six years of doing the collection with Joan's apparel, I didn't renew the contract. Now let me tell you, there was a lot of money on the table.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, I didn't know what to do, so I contacted Women's Wear Daily, who were very supportive of me, especially going out on my own. And they came to see it, and I said, how do I protect this? And they said, do not show it to anybody. We are going to introduce you to someone who will be a great partner for you to do a license with. So they introduced me to Sidney Kimmel, who had Jones apparel at the time, which was a hugely successful line for women going into the workplace. And we signed a deal in two weeks. We were in business. Then the brand, the name became known globally. It really just took off. In a huge way.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Or other places. And so Finally, I was doing a swimwear collection, and as I was doing the collection, I thought, I think I'm going to get sweatshirt fabric because I love to swim. And when I would swim, my brother had these sweatshirts from the Army Navy store, and I would put them on when I got out of the water. I bought gray sweatshirt fabric and I designed some cover-up pieces for swimwear. And then I thought, this is really beautiful. I did a dress and then I did a jumpsuit and then I did a coat and then I did a suit and I had 36 pieces all in gray sweatshirt. And I'm looking at it and I'm thinking, you know what? Somebody's going to make a lot of money on this. And this time it better be me because I can't have any more sleepless nights. We got to pay the rent. And...”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, so for my entire career, I would put in styles in the store and then the people from Bloomydale's would come in and I would see full page ads with my styles, but not with my name on it, but with Bloomydale's.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I had to come up with something, so I came up with OMO Norma Kamali. And I did find a space on 56th Street, and there was a space that I used as a sample room. And so that was really the turning point in my career.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“On board? No. Don't forget women didn't have businesses that I didn't know a woman who had her own business, never mind in the fashion industry. I knew women who were partners who had shops and things like that, but to have your own company and run it and design for it, that was sort of like I couldn't think about it. I just had to do it. And so friends invested their money in me and, you know, family, friends, anybody, anything that I could muster, I did. And I was so committed to paying everybody as soon as I could because what they did for me is they gave me a freedom that I so deadly. Desperately wanted.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, her husband knew somebody in the industry. And then I decided to reach out to people and ask for help and ask if I could borrow money. And that was my first okay. I better figure out how to do this.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And that I've left the business. She said well, then what do you need? And I was like, oh my God, I need everything. And she said, well, I'm going to get you some sewing machines. And so I realized that if you talk to people and tell them what you need, something can happen. But if you keep it to yourself, nothing is going to happen.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, he kept it going for a while. Obviously, it didn't stay for that long, I think maybe a year or two. And I really, I was so frightened and I'd never really told, I never talked to anybody about anything private or personal. And so I felt really kind of alone and a big lesson I learned was that being private and quiet is not going to get you anywhere. And I had had planned to meet this writer from the LA Times, which was one of a rare situation that I would ever meet an editor. And she really persisted and wanted to meet me. And my eyes were swollen, shut from crying, and I was so embarrassed, but I thought, I know where I'm supposed to meet her, but I don't have her number. So I went to meet her and she said, what happened to you? And for the first time in my life, I shared anything private.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, so if I wanted to leave and he didn't want me to leave, I mean, he literally contacted me to say, you owe me a swimwear collection before you go. And I was like, And knowing full well that I wouldn't have money and that I would have to come back. So I think he really expected that I would”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I had the $98 that I had on me. That was it. I had been asking around to see if I wanted to leave what would be the right thing to do, how do you handle it, and I had advice that you can't take anything if you leave. It's not, you know, that's not how you do it.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, I had $98 to my name. At that point, Eddie and I had already separated our living situation. I had got an apartment. I had a mattress. I didn't have furniture. I had my clothes and that was it. And it was definitely one of those moments in your life that you think, oh my God, what am I going to do?”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And then she leaves and I went to my cutting table. I didn't even say anything. I went to my cutting table and the ceiling over my cutting table just fell. And I said to myself, time to leave. And so I just left. I literally just left.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, clearly, this was not going to keep going in a good direction. And I think the turning point for me, you know, there's always that one thing that happens that's so horrific that you thank your lucky stars that it happened because you make the right move. And so I remember being in the sample room one day and this same sales girl that he hired back came in to tell me that she decided she was going to be the new designer and that she wanted me to make some of her designs and she described them to me. So I was just looking at her thinking this girl has definitely lost her mind but I just let her keep talking.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Hired her back. So it started, we started to have that kind of a not so great relationship. And we'd grown apart, and to be quite honest, I wasn't mortified that he was seeing other women. In fact, I was like, oh well, you know, that's the way it goes. What was happening was people were starting to realize that there was somebody else in the Kamali thing and that there was somebody who was designing the clothes. And at that time, it was very hard for men to reconcile a woman with power. And I wasn't, I was very, I mean, I hardly spoke. I was very quiet. But my power wasn't coming from me. It was coming from people's idea of me. And that was bothering him too. And I think part of the reason he was dating the sales girl was because he had some sort of issue with what was happening with me.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“His own social life? Yes. And he was going out every night. And then he started, you know, word would get back to me that he was with girls. And then he started dating the sales girl in the store that I had fired because she wasn't doing her job.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I was paying attention because it takes money to buy fabric, it takes money to sort of create the next thing you're going to sell. And that's probably where the differences between Eddie and myself came about because he was spending a lot of money from the company.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's correct. And the 70s started to be, especially in New York, an incredibly expressive time. There was such an energy and expression. It sort of was what London was in the 60s. This was now the next sort of energy. That was intensely exciting.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We talked about doing photos for a poster, but this was just another sort of we're going to take pictures. And she said, so I had it with me. So I put it on, and that's why. And I said, oh my God, I really, I couldn't believe out of all the suits she had for me that she chose that. But clearly, Suit is just the subtext to her beautiful smile, her just the aura she puts out, and I think the reason men love it is because she's not threatening at all.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So I asked Farah. Farah was a regular in the store in a just spectacular human being. And so she was in once and I saw her in the store and I said, I have to ask you, why did you choose that swimsuit? Because I hated it. I hated that swimsuit so much. I did six of them and I would do six to test to see how people reacted to see whether or not I would continue doing it. And I would do these tests. And I remember thinking, I don't know, I just am not sure about the suit. And don't you know she purchased it and I didn't realize, I didn't know that she did. And then she said, well, I had it in my bag and I was with my friend, this photographer.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think there is sort of a formula there that works because I always did what I felt was relevant and I never really allowed myself to be out there. I pulled back a lot. I didn't go to parties. I just really stayed sort of in the background.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, my personality has always been, even up till now, very, very private, I always felt intuitively that my clothes should be the star. My clothes should make people feel good, people wearing my clothes should be the celebrities and the stars. My personality is really not an outgoing personality. However, I attribute that decision, quite frankly, through the years to one of the reasons for my longevity. When you're the flavor of the month, people get tired of you and they want to see the next flavor of the month.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It actually was. And that's like 74, 75, 76 studio 54 opens, and the doormen are wearing my sleeping bag coat. And so people decided if they bought the sleeping bag coat and stood outside, maybe that would be a way they could get inside. And I did not dissuade them. So we sold a lot of sleeping bag coats during that period of time”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, first of all, sleeping bag fabric was different from fabric you went skiing in. Mine was sort of a khaki fabric on one side and the inside was flannel with geese and It was fabulous, and then I bought a ton of sleeping bags and just started cutting them up like a crazy woman making sleeping bag oats.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I loved camping and I loved doing the whole canoeing and going down the rapids. And so at one cold night when I was trying to figure out how I was going to get out of my sleeping bag to find a place to go to the bathroom, I said, I'm not getting out of my sleeping bag. It's coming with me. So I wrapped it around myself. And as I was wrapped in it, I thought, you know, I think I'm going to go back and make a coat out of this. And so the first sleeping bag coat was my actual sleeping bag. And I used every bit of it. I was very conscious of saving fabric and, you know, very, very careful about those things. And that pattern is still the pattern I use today for the Classic sleeping backcoat. And I've made the coat every year since.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Really big time partier. And he was very... The nightlife and money is being spent on drugs and being spent on things that are not business related and it became more and more difficult for me to get fabric and to just sort of do the basic things that you need.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, you know, when you're nineteen you're really still a child. It's just you're a child in a grown-up body. And by 1974, you know, our identity started to form and we were clearly going in different directions, which is expected, right? I mean, how do you not? I was so happy to have found something I love to do and I worked so hard because I loved every minute of it. It wasn't work. He was Much more social and outgoing. So there was sort of a difference in the way we looked at life and the way we looked at everything.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I did. You know, this is a time when women would not consider business as something they typically would do. It was okay to be creative in that space, but the business part of it, I never considered something that I want to have the responsibility of. And I assumed, like everyone else, that men were better at business than women. My world was that everybody believed it and assumed that that was the truth.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It was a little, it still was very unique in the design. It still was not typical of what you could find anywhere else. And prior to that, people only knew Eddie. They didn't know me. I was very much in the background, an occasional photo or something like that, but he really was the face of the brand. And then I started to get a little recognition. People wanted to know where the clothes were coming from. And so that was happening about that time.”
2021-02-01 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Norma Kamali: Norma Kamali · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT