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Nuseir Yassin
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“build 20 different companies that all complement and help each other. That's my vision. I think there's an opportunity for the next Virgin group. Because Richard Branson built an incredible ecosystem of, I'm going to take a boring business and I'm going to make it fun. And it's like physical stuff. My ambition is to build similar to Virgin, but I'm going to build products that bring people together in technology, media, travel. So, the way I envision the next 10 years is Nas Dali, Nas Hotel, Nas Io, Nas Summits, Nas Foods, Nas Venture, Nas whatever. I wonder about the NAS ecosystem where every business line helps the other. That's my 30-year vision. We're not building something to be acquired and put it on the LinkedIn. I'm building something that I believe has the capacity to live beyond my life.”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, I'm going to give you a bit of observation. I found out that the American way of building companies is very different than the Asian way of building companies. The American way of building companies tells you build one product, make that product really big, go on IPO and just like continue working on that product for the next 10, 20 years, like Slack. Slack is a one product company until it got acquired. Perfect, right? That never made sense to me. So I'm much more inspired by the Asian way of building it, which is build an ecosystem.”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There's a lot of power in that. There's a lot of influence in that. And that's much better than any YouTube video you can make.”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No. So I'm getting hosts. So now I have different hosts that get in the videos. I'm taking myself out of the video slowly but surely. My personal ambition is very simple. I want to do things that are life and death. That's it. I don't want to be selling Coca-Cola. I don't want to be creating furniture. I want to do things life and death when I'm 50, 60 years old. So what is life and death when you're 50 and 60 years old? Healthcare, right? hospitals, doctors, medicine, government, politics. That's it. In my opinion, nothing else is important. So the way I see my life is the next 15, 20 years, I'll be in the private sector. Great. Then I will have no meaning from the private sector. I'll have somebody to run it. Then I'd like to go and join a government, any government, and try to actually create life and death solutions. I think that's amazing.”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Guy, these are not communities, these are streaming content software. But are you part of, let's say, tech community in San Francisco?”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, there isn't enough advertising, and advertising based content creation is a flawed model. And I would dare say it's a fraudulent model. This is the model that has been working, but it will not work in the future. So I'm a runner. I start a community for 100 people. I create content for 100 people, and each one of them gives me 10 bucks. I'm already making a thousand bucks a month. So you can create new jobs. And that's where the future is heading, in my opinion.”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right. So when it comes to content creators, I mean, the average person has 11 or 10 different hobbies, right? You can create content about swimming and how much you love swimming. You can make educational content about running, how much you love running, painting, your country, you can make travel. I mean, here's the thing. For the majority of the internet, media has been created in Los Angeles and consumed globally. But there is no NAS daily in Libya. There is no NAS daily in Morocco. There's no Mr. Beast in Egypt. There's no Mr. Beast in Denmark. So these are all opportunities for local content to be created. In the future, there is a room for 195 more Hollywoods to be created, the days in which the whole world is watching Will Smith on TV and Tom Cruise for the 55th movie. Are done That's why we need content creators.”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“First of all, we are at 1% of the way there with how many content creators we need, similar to how many software engineers we need. We are at 1% of the way there because monetizing videos has been very, very new. So we're just at the beginning. Okay, we're not at the end. Second of all, when you say content creator, you think a guy with a model on a beach saying, hey guys, I'm here, come to visit this beach with my girlfriend. That is not what a content creator is. For every content creator can be in front of the camera, but there's 10 people that can be behind the camera. A video editor is a content creator, a scriptwriter, a researcher, a producer, right? A Discord community manager, Inasayo community manager. Why shouldn't we create those jobs? The world needs those jobs.”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That doesn't exist in Singapore, in the UAE. They're so intertwined. I have a business in Singapore. We all love Singapore, right? But the government knows everything about every business and works with every business, right? And so, like, yes, you can do that separation in America, but you really can't do that separation in many countries around the world.”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“With Russia, it's all relative to what you think is a non-no and what you think is an acceptable thing. So I have to make my own little sort of pompous. What's acceptable and what's not, my compass is very different from an American perspective compass. And that's what many Americans need to realize is that the world does not center around America and American interests. And then my compass, I just follow that.”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes. For me, that was a step too far. So I said, no, but we also had people from the State Department tell us, hey, why don't you make videos about China and how bad it is? In my opinion, first of all, we have one rule, which is we don't really discuss politics. We promote tourism. We promote nations, and we promote things that are a little bit not like geopolitical in nature. Second of all, with Russia, it's a little bit tricky. Don't forget that I'm from Israel. And for at least a billion people on the planet working with Israel is like a big no-no. And we've never worked with the Israeli government, to be clear, but one thing I've realized is that this whole what's taboo and what's not is very relative for you, Russia, is a big no-no, but for people in Saudi Arabia, they're like, Russia is our friend or people in Syria, Russia is our friend. And so for a creator in Syria, they're much more willing to vote.”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So last year's revenue for all of NAS company is $11 million, $7 million was for the production, the NAS daily. Then the $4 million, the majority of it comes from NAS Academy. And then now NASA is the newest one. It's two months old. So it's still starting, right? But I think by the end of the year, it'll be like a major revenue driver. And the reason why I like NASA is it's a scalable model. It's something that could get 10x bigger in a month, which is very different from NASA and NASA Academy.”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah. So NASA Academy is the same business as NASA. It's just two products. NASA Academy is basically cohort-based education of how to become a creator. It runs all on top of the NASA software and it's five months long. And basically from when you join until five months, we teach you everything that we know, right? Me and 10 other teachers, every person teaches you their specialty, they're all creators. And then you graduate and then you go on to get a job in the media space or to become a creator yourself. And what we think is going to happen is that there's going to be a need for digital universities to complement traditional universities, to teach engineering, content creation, and maybe entrepreneurship. Those are the only three things we want to teach. So it is an education arm. It's a profitable business unit, but it's still community driven. It brings people together.”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So at the beginning, it was self-funded. So we see funding was done by myself, but then I decided that, okay, this is going to get really expensive. I need investor money. So one year in, we went and raised $23 million total to achieve this vision.”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Exactly. So we've built monetization features to help you monetize your community. And we take a 10% cut from anything you do in the community. Simple.”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Exactly. And for me, scale is really important. Hundreds of millions of viewers are important because the more people that use your product, the better the world is. And that's what we believe. So now we need to figure out what scales, right? Technology brings people together and it scales. That's why we decided to build a technology company over the last two years and go back to my engineering routes and build NAS IO, which is a community management software. It's basically the infrastructure for communities. It allows you to start a community on the internet and monetize it and run it very, very easy. It's everything I've been doing for the last seven years, all the meetups and the communities I've built over the last seven years. I built the software to enable it. And we think technology and media both can scale and bring people together. And that could be a thing for the next.”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, so first of all, media brings people together. So we've decided to build a production house that creates stories and tells stories. This production house helps nonprofits, helps governments, helps big corporations to create content that brings people together, not Coca-Cola ads, but like deep storytelling. And I felt there's money in that. We could charge 50K to 100K for every video or every campaign. That's a lot of money.”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But I didn't want to fix a small problem because small problems build small companies, small companies very like five years, 10 years, and then they're changed. So I needed a big problem, right? And I needed a big problem that is fixable, but also unfixable at the same time. And so for me, the problem is division between humans. Israelis, Palestinians my whole life division. So it seems like one of the biggest problem in the world is there's not enough communities in the world that are tolerant and inclusive. So, and I felt that we could bring people together as a company. And I felt as a company that is a mission worth pursuing.”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“My face on top of that burger, and let's go, baby. Give me your money, right? But I'm not worthy. So I need to build an organization and I need the impact of 100 people to come and help me build this. Now, it took me three years, and I kid you not, after I finish making videos, it took me three years to understand what kind of company I need to build and what the point of the company is other than making money Three years of daily thinking. And so when a lot of people build companies, they look at problems and they try to fix them.”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“First of all, why should it not be about me? Not only because it's not longevity, but also because of my insecurities, right? Again, it goes back to your childhood full of insecurities as people like me are not worthy. They're not worthy. So if I was born and raised in Los Angeles, I could very easily have built this about me and made a Nasiria scene brand do a Hollywood route.”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So actually, at the early beginning of the first year of the journey, I knew two things. One, you cannot build a company reliant on your face because creators come and go every five years. Every five years, somebody's hot, somebody's not. So, my face is temporary. I must migrate from my face to a company. The second thing I knew is that you cannot build a business on top of social media. Impossible. And so this idea that Facebook will be my livelihood and I can build an empire for the next 30 years thanks to Facebook's algorithm is a dream that will never materialize. And so that's what I knew. So once I finish a thousand-day traveling, my number one goal is I must institutionalize what I've built and I must build it as a 30-year company, not a three-year acquire me retire kind of company.”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So I started to build a crew. So at day 400, I started traveling with my girlfriend. I found love through these videos. The best thing that ever happened. And then at day 750, I found an editor to travel with me. And so the first 750 videos I edited by myself, but after 750, I was like, okay, I'm going to focus on what matters, the script, and I'm going to get somebody to help me with the editing and the equipment. So that's three of us traveling around the world. And the last year truly became exponential, right? Things start slow, slow, slow, slow. Then you get the right help. Then it becomes exponential. You know, I was going from 10K a month in revenue and like, I don't know, day 600 or so by day 900 or 1000. I was making, you know, 50k a month and 70k a month in revenue. And so that's seven times more than I was paid in my job.”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Israeli governments or Jews or whatever for what they're doing. And I'm also critical of Israel, to be clear, but that's not the role of Naz Dehili. And if you want to change something, you must get resistance. You must. If you're not getting resistance, if you are pleasing everybody, then you are no more but a clown. Clowns please everybody. You cannot do any meaningful change on planet Earth without hate. If you don't receive hate, you're doing something wrong.”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, all media companies, for as far as I can remember, is only doing critical videos about Israel. It's making Israel look like it is the worst place on planet Earth, worse than North Korea. And my personal experience was the opposite of that. I mean, it wasn't rosy, but it wasn't as dark as they make it sound. So I felt like there's a need to balance the public view. There is a need to call for peace as opposed to instigate for more hatred and war.”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But it's 10,000 on Facebook views. So it's 10,000 three second views, which honestly means it's like 4,000 real views and 2,000 real people that care. So it's not enough to sustain anything and make any money. But for me, I was on a learning journey. So I needed to iterate as fast as possible. So I gave myself 24 hours to make a mistake. If I made a mistake on day 68, I could fix it on day 69, you know. And so I was creating, improving every single day until I became really good at telling a story in one minute and telling it energetically and making it in 24 hours. And that's when I hit the jackpot on day 270.”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, first of all, I traveled around the world, so I tried to get the local audience wherever I went. But my first 270 videos didn't really work. I was averaging like 10,000 views.”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“14 hours of daily work. It's not two minutes. It's not two hours. It's not five hours. 14 hours. It's a very well structured day, okay? Wake up at 8, upload yesterday's video, respond to comments for the first two hours, start the day at 10 or 11, 11 until 2 p.m. Start thinking of a video idea. I need a video idea today. I need to think of something. I need to script it. I need to find the person to make a video about. Two to six, that's when sunset is. I film it four hours, film, film, film, six to seven to eight, I go back to the hotel and I dinner and all that stuff, eight to midnight, I edit the video ready for hours to edit. And then I sleep and do this for 2.7 years every single day, no matter if it's a weekend, if it's Christmas, if it's your birthday, if your mom was in surgery, if your dad went to the hospital, it did not matter a video had to be made.”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So I was using my savings for the first two years because I wasn't making money from this, but I had a belief. I had a belief that if I could find one person to like my video, I'm pretty damn sure I could find 100. If I could find 100, I'm pretty damn sure I could find a million. And if I can find a million, I'm pretty damn sure I can find 100 million. Now, that was my first belief. My second belief was if I can get the attention of a million people, it is very easy to make a million dollars. I just need the attention of a million people. Views as a currency is more powerful than dollars.”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I was making more money than my parents combined at Venmo. And now I was like, I was doing nothing. And I could watch Netflix every day, but that's not why we are born. So they didn't like it. They didn't like it. But this is why I'm so lucky because they were like, you control your life. Go whatever you want. But my parents want the least risky way for me to live. I want the riskiest way for me to live. And that's where you get the clash. But luckily they were supportive and they just watched the videos. All I wanted from them was to watch the video, click like, click share. That's it.”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, yes. I got 75 new followers on this new page I started. And that meant the world to me. 75 people said, click, I'm going to follow your journey, my friend.”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“None of that people that look like me, people that have my upbringing do not believe they'll ever be influential. People that look like me do not belong in front of the camera, maybe behind the camera, if around the camera at all. But I didn't know this would be this big. I just was frustrated and I just wanted to see the world and tell the world what I see without filters.”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, so actually, I was like, I had like two days of training. Wow. I was like April 6th. I started downloading Final Cut Pro. Learned it for two days, April 8th. I quit, and then April 9th, I started quick, quick, quick jump from the deep end of the pool. That's how I think things should be done.”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So you're at Venmo, you're like, okay, I'm an engineer. I could go to another company, but I'll do the same goddamn engineering. And it's like, ah, it's not for me. And I wasn't the best at. And I wanted to find something I'm good at. And my idea was, let me just quit. And let me just figure out something to do. And I found travel to be incredibly meaningful. And I thought, if I travel around the world, I should document my journey. And if I have no job, I should not take a single day off. Taking a weekend off when you have no career, I mean, that's ultimately irresponsible. So I said if I'm jobless, I have to work every single day for the next 1,000 days. So I came up with this idea let me make a video every day that's one minute long and put it on the internet”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, you know, anger could be utilized in both ways, right? One, you can do it to destroy, but another is could be to like show what the opposite can be. And so for me, NAS Daily is building what I want media to be like. Now it's a lot more positive, but media today is incredibly negative and it focuses on twisting narratives and there's too much power in the hands of the few. And I think Nas Daily is my angry statement towards it”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Know everything I do in life is motivated by one thing. It's not the love for money, it's not the love for fame, and it's not the love for entrepreneurship. It's anger I'm so angry at the way the world is structured. I can't believe that we are okay with living in it. Are you okay with living in Israel where like one village is 100% Muslim and another village is 100% Jewish where there's literally self-segregation? How do you live in America where I was begging the United States to give me an H1B visa? Yeah. And then I win it by a lottery, like the visa system was sucked. The New York Metro subway system, like I was angry about, I was angry at so many things. I was like, I couldn't contain it.”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Honestly nothing. You want the truth? Nothing. I was overpaid, underworked. $120,000 a year. That opened my eyes. like what an effective organization looks like and what an ineffective organization looks like.”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Basically, me and my friends were one of the first to send a hamburger to see the curvature of Earth. Not really a space curvature of Earth. We called it space because it's more fun, and it did really well. It got a million views. It made us famous for 15 seconds exactly. And then it died. We're back to computer science.”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I was just fascinating with not forgetting things. I thought that if you don't record it, it's forgotten. And so I really started to get into videos because I thought there's something there with creating a video that could last for generations. So I dabbled with it, but nothing too serious. We made one video. It did well, but it didn't feel like you could build a career out of content.”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So when I was at Harvard, the social network movie came out, and I think everybody was inspired by the entrepreneurial spirit of a fellow Harvard alumni or Harvard dropout. We can build technology products. We can create something meaningful in this world. So I tried roughly 10 times every semester I was building a company. And almost all of them failed. But here we are.”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, so the question is why did I need to be at a tech company? Because I thought tech was the ultimate equalizer. You could be a Muslim Arab Israeli and still build a nice app and people could use it because they'll never know who you are and how you look like. Right, so I thought tech could hide my identity because my identity Let me hide my identity. If my product is good, you will use it and download it and give me money. While in other industries like finance, right, you have to be the culture, you have to be a bro culture, you have to be that, you have to be tall, you have to dress nice. And I just couldn't compete. But in tech, I could compete. That's why I went to tech.”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It was not a glass ceiling that you can see through. It was a concrete ceiling. Like there's just no way from here. Like you can't be prime minister or it's impossible. You can't be in the broadcasting. But it's not because there are laws against it, to be clear, like to be clear. I like Israel and I support Israel's existence and I want to make Israel better. It's just for me as a 17 year old nobody kid, I knew that I needed to immigrate to get the opportunities and the credentials then to come back and fix this stuff.”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Be then reality hits. You know, I was a Muslim, you needed physical traits that you can't control, like perfect eyesight, but also you need religious traits, unfortunately, at least in Israel. And I didn't have that. So that dream quickly dissipated”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know, we talk a lot about forced segregation, and that is a real problem between Israel and Palestine. But there's also self-segregation that we don't talk enough about, in which Arabs choose to live by themselves and they don't want a Jewish neighbor and a Jewish person doesn't want an Arab neighbor, a Muslim neighbor, because we don't have a shared history in a way. We don't have a shared background and experiences. And so now you end up with Israel, entire towns that are 30,000 people that are of the same ethnicity. And then next to us, there's a town that's Jewish, 100% Jewish. And it's just. It's crazy that this is the world we live in”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, first of all, this is a background I do not recommend to my worst enemy. Part of me wishes I was born in Denmark Great country, but boringly great, right? So not many people know this, but 20% of Israel is not Jewish. And I think this shows how complex the situation is. This isn't Jews versus Arabs. This is Jews and Arabs versus Arabs, Muslims and Christians. I mean, it is a complete mess. And ethnically, I'm Palestinian father, mother, Arab speakers, Muslim, but nationality is Israeli, which means you grow up without a flag. You know, if you can wave a flag and you're proud of it, you should feel lucky. I can't wave the Israeli flag, and neither can I wave the Palestinian flag because I never lived in Palestine and I don't feel that belonging that a Jewish person feels to Israel. So it's quite complicated to say that.”
2023-04-06 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · HIBT Lab! Nas Company: Nuseir Yassin · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT