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Oleg Gordievsky

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first: 2008-02-10
most recent: 2008-02-10
sittings or episodes: 1
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“I would like to have a nice collection of the toiletries. On my bath, particularly good soaps and good shaving creams and good blades for shaving and so that type of things”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The final piece of music is very interesting because in 1990 only half a year after the liberation of East Germany, Daniel Baronboim came to East Berlin and organized a concert in the woods for the East Germans and played for them the old German music. It was a wonderful success until he had this piece what mood was there in the woods when that music was played.”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They would kill me here not abroad so it is here the dangers there are. So if they will try to kill me it will be here in Britain.”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, unfortunately I spoke only once to him. and he said something which was very hurting me. He said please don't make money on my death. and he meant that I should not make articles and books and so on On his”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Ermedi it's called it is a famous area and Arbarmadi means have pity with me and here the person is singing You can't forgive me, but at least I ask for pity.”
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“The wife who never loved me and also the work had been indoctrinated, and the children were under her influence, so I hadn't seen them in the last six years, six years at all.”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, the children in the car, which was very good. Very good because they deflected the attention, and they started to throw nappies to the docks, and the smell was sense of smell of the dogs was entirely disorientated. So the car started to go, but loud music was played in order to make me forget everything which was good. Then suddenly that music stopped, and Sibelius started to play Sibelius. I realized now”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There was a point where the Chechnica was five, six points on the border. One time they had shut off the engine, and I heard the docks snivic.”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And they said, Emmanuel, please let me out, Emmanuel. He let me out, and I started to walk in the direction of Leningrad. I went and the lay by which was nearby and turned out it was the only lay by and the whole road. From Lindra to the border, and that lay by I waited for several hours for the cars, and when the cars arrived at two o'clock, I put myself immediately into the boot of the car. There were several pieces like water. There was a”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“To tell you frankly, I escaped the surveillance three or four times because I need to buy the tick in advance. Then I had something else to do, ask a signal to send. And now everything was in movement. And so I slept well slept well, and next morning I brought total order to the flat, which Everything left money for the family. and left in order to shade the surveillance I had to run through the woods. So they could not find me, and there I caught train to Lingrad. Went to the bus. I was the only man in the bus, and I said to the driver stop He looked at me with great suspicion because they were all agents in the KGB in the border area. All”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So I put the book in water. It collapsed. They filled out. And there was wonderful text. Text was written by John Scarrett as if it was recommending me how to travel by car from Paris to Marseille.”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Alex of music is Beth Hoven and for me he was close because he was writing music which was really Central European music and I liked everything which was Central European.”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They went on holiday. Yeah, and then went to the little very cosy house in the Caucasian Mountains. And at that time I had to flee because I was the only opening for me when I was able to leave Moscow without being botched by anybody.”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, it was one week, one week before they were abacated from London, so they had to come and they came and they said, Oh wonderful shots were such attention paid to us, I said attention paid to them.”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They were brought to a house which looked like a spy cottage. Two very sinstered men came. I realized I was finished, I was finished. Only a few weeks left for me to”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“stiff up a lip. I thought I should be a courageous man, courageous, so I will go and I will regret it, but you will know that people, Russian people like me, they are dedicated to the Western values and is very important.”
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“This was how felt, but I didn't say them good to die for you, because it would be very immodest. Frankly speaking I was happening it was a trap I go to the trap so that it was a suicidal move by me.”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, they said you're the person who is the most experienced. You know your system, you decide you're free to stay if you prefer to go. Are you interested that I go? And they said Yes, we are very interested with what we'll say about England. I said, OK, you want me to die? All right, I will die for you. I will die for Britain. So I went, and as soon as”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I actually like modern and supermodern avant music, and people don't understand me because nobody likes avant-garde music. But for me it is like reading a book about which you never heard about. And here's something new, different, fresh. Just”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, she was wonderful character because he was very humane, but apart from it, he understood everything, for example he made the plan of the escape. In case I would be caught by the KGB Simple, clear, fantastic, and it helped because according to that plan I escaped.”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, to girls sitting all the time. Incredible how the service worked. And please come to the hotel. Such a such day at four o'clock and you will be met. There was my old officer from Denmark. He is now head of the British Intelligence Service.”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“the London was very simple. I went to the nearest telephone, and what I did hear Welcome Oleg in London. We've been waiting for you.”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, there was no doubt at all, because I was intelligent and educated enough to understand what it means. If I ever mention it I am finished.”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, she didn't. It was impossible. Homo Sercus Homos should run to the Guyview. There was no chance to cooperate with wife, who is the mother of your lovely children, but it is impossible to be on confidential relations.”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, because I had the feeling of duty. I have the feeling of duty towards the British. The British did so much in order to promote me, to help me, to explain things to me.”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It was impossible. We achieved so much that I became a very important source for the British intelligence, the most important source for the British intelligence. I wanted to finish soon because I was terribly tired, like three after three four years, then I will rest.”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“is an anti fascist, brilliant singer, She was fighting on the Allied side, her songs were so warm for the soul that nearly all are beautiful, and I found one, which I regard as the most beautiful and nicest of all of them.”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In the first two years there was no fear because I thought I'm fighting for freedom. And then in the last two years it was firstly rumors about leakage, leakage, leakage in the center from the center from Moscow, and secondly I started to obtain documents KGB documents, taking them out of the embassy. It was very dangerous because when I was leaving the embassy, when I was returning to the embassy I could be caught or searched.”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In Denmark I cooperated from 74 to 78 for years. It was of course all very full of adventure because we are hiding and the British were hiding from the KGB.”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Firstly, you're absolutely right. It was like coming from the gray dark, dirty environment of the Soviet Union into light color, beauty, you are right, but the impression all other people of the KGB, they all had that impression. So it was normal.”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It was a culture shock, it was the beautiful European city, with wonderful libraries, universities, colleges I was so deeply impressed that I started doing everything which I was able to do, like going to the library and taking bags, plastic bags of books because there was no limitation. I missed the joint free courses which were organized in Copenhagen book binding and languages and that and that.”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Birgit Nielsen, who is a fantastic singer, Sinks an added by Wagner, which one of the most profound and philosophical. complicated pieces. To choose to sing it and to sing like she does it is a great achievement.”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Because a KGB is not one organization. The KGB is a conglomerate. And I was thinking only about the intelligence service. And the intelligence service was relatively small. At that time it had probably only six thousand, while in the KGB there are half a million I was wanting to have a kind of a diplomatic job, but important diplomatic job with intelligence a kind of a contest.”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's a very good question, very typical for a Western person, what you are asking now. Because people don't realize that in each Russian university, there is one, at least one or several KGB officers attached to the university for all the time. As firstly the supervisor's behavior of the students are they loyal or they okay? And what are their potential professional abilities? And they the KGB actually, not the university, was sending the students to the jobs.”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“When I'm 43, it was the first demonstration of the German prisoners of war to the streets of Moscow. As the Germans they were so pathetic, they were so human. There was some normal people many people felt sympathy for them. It showed the Germans are like us.”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“A house as a little boy. We lived like all people in the cities in Russia. Two, three families in one apartment. It was father, mother, brother and me in one room, and a kitchen for three families and the bathroom, I think there was a bathroom, I am not sure, also for three families. It was alike.”
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“Further Schalapin is the most famous Russian singer, and he was a really Russian man. His voice, his behavior, his dignity, his pride, his So she re part of the Russian history and she sang both western Iris but many very good Russian songs and romances.”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In the west first it was a critical propaganda attacks on the West until when I was a boy about twelve I started to pick up Voice of America in Russian. It was very, very useful for me. This outside influences they formed me all the time. So that's why I became different. That's why it became so outrageous when I saw the Berlin Wall being erected. That's why I was outraged about Czechoslovakia. So it all influenced me.”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“At a low level of the KGB. And he was dedicated not so much to the KGB, but to the party. There was a cult of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. But my mother, because she was a housewife, she was not exposed to the influence of the official propaganda, and she was sometimes saying things which even me a child made shudder. It was sound normal Russian pleasant attitude.”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“is a man which was created by the regime of Stalin. And Homo Sarieticus has got a different Mentality, different behavior, different attitude to everything which is in the West it, distorted and unpleasant and very poorly behaved in nearly in all spheres of life.”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't remember exactly what she said to me because I was so excited, but I think she said, and how do you feel? Are you okay here now? I said, yes, I am okay. Thank you very much. And it was nice.”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“for 22 years I always felt that I was very close to the security service, intelligence service and the foreign office. But I was never in touch with the palace, and now I was in the palace, and the queen received me, gave me the decoration, spoke to me.”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, I made a telephone call to my wife. When I express my outrage, I knew the telephone was listened to by the Danes. They would immediately total the British about my attitude, And they will pay more attention to me.”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It was certainly the invasion of Czechoslovakia by the Soviet Union and other communist countries. It was so outrageous that I decided now it is the end. I now stop working for this criminal, awful regime.”
2008-02-10 · Desert Island Discs · Oleg Gordievsky · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source