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“Well, thank you, Dr. Bruce Grayson. Thank you, Jeremy Renner, Dr. Mary Neil. Thank you, Harmony. Harmony and Gabrielle for sharing your experiences with us. Dr. Grayson's book is After a Doctor Explores What Near-Death Experiences Reveal about life and beyond, and it's available wherever you buy your books, wherever books are sold. Fascinating read. Go well, everybody. You can subscribe to the Oprah Podcast on YouTube and follow us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen. I'll see you next week. Thanks, everybody.”
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“And that brings me to the question I like to ask everybody all the time here on this podcast is how do you define a well-lived life?”
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“Well, I tell you, this is from the very first time I started hearing about them and just had the aha, that makes sense to me. That's how religion meets spirituality and also becoming aware of the army of people that have come before me. It helped me to not fear death Not fear death because I believe, as Whitman says. That whatever is there on the other side is going to be the big surprise that being born in this realm was. And so do you fear death?”
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“So, the title of your book After, as I started out talking about at the beginning of our conversation, has multiple meanings for you.”
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“Well, you know, all of this reminds me. I had read Song of Myself, I think, in high school or college. And then the very first time, Walt Whitman's song of myself, and the very first time I had an interview with somebody within NDE, their experience reminded me of what he says in Song of Myself. He says, All goes onward and outward, nothing collapses. And to die is different from what anyone supposed and luckier. Has anyone supposed it lucky to be born? I hasten to inform him or her it is just as lucky to die. And I know it. I pass death with the dying and birth with the new washed babe and am not contained between my hat and my boots. So when I went back and reread that, I thought. Walt Whitman must have had an Indie, yes.”
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“Good luck to you on that album. Great success, Gabrielle. Thank you so much. Thank you for joining us. Thank you so much for sharing your story. I mean, let me just say, you got a good man if he came over there and closed that little eyeball.”
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“I loved earlier when Jeremy was on Jeremy Renner, and he was saying love is the only thing you take with you. Love is the only thing you take with you. Do you have a question for Dr. Grayson?”
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“And after you're in your near death experience, I heard Gabrielle that everything just felt trivial after that. Tell us about that feeling. Oh my.”
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“So, what she's describing is what so many people describe to because what I've heard too, and you write about and after, is that words fail you. Words are a creation of this realm.”
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“There's multiple miracles that you have, I mean, first of all, Jesus waking your mama up and she wants to do laundry in the middle of the night. Let's just start with that one. I mean, listen, I believe in all of that. I know exactly what you're talking about when they like, gosh, I just feel like doing laundry and don't know why. And there you are throwing up in the bathroom. So tell us about the near-death experience. What did you see? What did you feel? Did you see Jesus?”
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“Yeah. But I thought what he said about the voices, so that's amazing. We have Gabrielle joining us from Natural Dam, Arkansas. She's a country singer who had a near-death experience two years ago just before discovering that you had a brain tumor. Welcome. Take us back to that night. Your mom found you in the room, bedroom, throwing up.”
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“Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. So, I mean, I think what Harmony was able to share, I don't know if a lot of kids have had that experience.”
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“God is the all-encompassing word, yes, yeah. And oftentimes when I pray at my table and there are different people from different backgrounds, I say, by all the names we call God in the universe so that it is inclusive of whatever that is to you. And it is. It is all one thing. It is all one being one existence, but whatever you choose to call it. Well, thank you.”
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“I think the beautiful thing, one of the other beautiful things that you've said here, and I have tried to be guided by that voice my whole life. Also, never had an Indie or near death experience, but I remember being on the back porch, my grandmother was washing clothes, and I was like four or five years old. And she said, you better watch me now, Oprah Gale, because one day you're going to have to learn how to do this for yourself. And I distinctly heard the voice say, no, you won't. Your life will be different. No, you won't. Your life will be different. And I remember that feeling and that voice is different than the voice that's just in my head. It's that goes on. And I have tried to be obedient to that voice. So when you said, Harmony, oh, there it is. Oh, there it is. Anytime I'm in a crisis and I'm thinking and what should I do, what I should do, I go and get myself still so I can hear that voice and go, oh, there it is and be guided by that thing.”
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“So, what would prove it to the scientist? Because I don't know what you need other than thousands of people who've experienced it.”
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“13 years old. Tell us hey, welcome, Harmony. How are you doing? I am doing so good. We want to know what happened. What happened to you?”
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“Welcome you back to the Oprah Podcast. Dr. Bruce Grayson is here shedding light on the greatest mystery of all time. What happens after we die? What you hear may surprise you or may inspire you. Harmony joins us. Harmony is in Los Angeles, a Grammy-winning songwriter and producer who also had a near-death experience at the age of just you were 13”
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“Thanks for joining us for this episode. When we return, Dr. Grayson reveals what it would take for scientists to believe these accounts of near-death experiences.”
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“Why is there such resistance to it? Is because the very nature of scientists and the medical field is to question what you don't know.”
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“It's my favorite conversation too. Thank you so much. Thank you for joining us. I've known Mary for a number of years. And what you don't see in this interview is as she say down-to-earth, no nonsense, orthopedic surgeon Who was very much making her career in this world by treating us our physical bodies. And yet she's been aware for decades. Yeah, I think that's so cool. So obviously, since you had the experience with Holly, who's in the ICU and completely out of it that you were telling us earlier in this conversation, and the next day you come in and she remembers a conversation that you had down the hall with a friend of hers and knows that there was a stain on your tie, you start to think differently about all of this. So, what do you make of all of this?”
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“Yeah, you can. The brain doesn't acknowledge it, but I can tell you I experience it. Through stillness, I can sit amongst the trees and literally become one with them. I mean, I can, you know, I know that sounds crazy, but I can. So I think that there is a way to do it. But I also feel that the density of the body keeps you from doing it. It's why I always do say, though, when people have loved ones that pass, Dr. Grayson, it's like now you have an angel you can call by name. Now you have somebody who's crossed over to the other side. Thank you so much, Dr. Neil. Dr. Neil's books are to heaven and back and seven lessons from heaven. We could listen to you all day because we love this conversation. We love this conversation.”
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“Looking out for me, that's one of the reasons why I've had a life that I've had because of all that's come before me and where are all those people with me right now. And I'm just wondering if you still feel him, you still feel connected to that, do you feel that sense of awareness?”
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“Yeah, I always say when you lose a loved one, tell me if you agree with this or not. But since I started hearing these near-death experiences and also know that I have a whole posse. I have a team on the other side. I feel them all the time.”
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“How did you now in human form, again, not in that loving, all connected space, come back knowing that your son is going to die and nobody else around you knows that so now you have to move to the world? And you weren't told when it was going to die, so you don't know if he's going to die next week or next month. And then years pass and he doesn't die. So you're thinking maybe that I didn't even hear that. Maybe that wasn't even real.”
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“And 10 years later, your son actually passed away. So this is what I was wondering, since you've been given that warning that your son is going to die, how do you live in this world of density for 10 years knowing that your son is going to die early and that's part of one of your assignments? How do you live not in fear every day? Or is it because you had that? Loving near-death experience, you know that whenever he passes, it's going to be okay.”
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“The other people, not just the emotions, but as Jeremy said, I was the other people involved and I was me and I had a complete understanding of what brought each of us to that situation. Yeah. Every time I've heard this, it feels like the truth to me because Know, I was raised very, very strict religiously, and the word you just said here resonated with me with such judge that when you die, there's going to be the judgment. And I remember the first time I heard someone talk about this on the show, I thought, oh, the judgment is actually the way you've lived and the feelings that you've created with other people, everything you've ever done comes.”
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“Inexplicable experience. At a certain point, ask that God's will be done. And I was immediately overcome by a very physical sensation of being held and comforted and reassured that everything would be fine, regardless of whether I lived or died. And, you know, I had four little kids. And I was told, you know, they'd be fine. And I was being held kind of like a baby and reassured and taken through a life review that was nothing that I personally could have imagined. It had nothing to do with judgment. And everything to do with understanding and love. Did you have a life review? You have a life review? I had a life review that took me through every one of the most painful, wounding, horrible experiences of my life. And I had an absolute understanding of everyone involved.”
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“I lost consciousness. It's a funny thing. I mean, I was never conscious and then unconscious. I felt like I was conscious and then more conscious, you know, alive and then more alive. And like you've already heard, there was a shift in time and dimension so that I could be underwater and still feel the weight of the water. I could feel the plastic of my boat. But at the same time, I began to have this.”
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“Jeremy said, none of us are aware of these experiences until someone opens our eyes. But my own experience began when I was whitewater kayaking in South America with my husband and friends of ours who own our Rafton kayak company. And circumstances were such that I went over a waterfall or a drop that was maybe 10 or 15 feet high. And when I hit the bottom, my boat became pinned or stuck in the rocks and the underwater features. And the boat and I were then completely submerged under eight to ten feet of water. Weight of the water and the force of the current was such that there was no way to pull the spray skirt out. So I was under there for almost 30 minutes. And while I was there, um,”
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“Absolutely. Thanks for being here with us. After this message, we're going to hear from more people who were pronounced dead and then came back to life. You won't want to miss what they say about what happened in between. I think it's so fascinating how so many people have a similar experience. Don't you? Stay with us. I thank you for being here with me on the Oprah podcast. doctor Grayson and I are discussing the remarkable insights in his book after a doctor explores what near death experiences reveal about life and beyond. So orthopedic spinal surgeon and two-time New York Times bestselling author, Dr. Mary Neal, joins us from Jackson Hole, Wyoming. Dr. Neal, you also had a near-death experience, I understand. 30 years ago, on a kayaking trip, what happened? Welcome. Yes. Well, first of all, thank you for having me on and thank you for having this topic because it's really important.”
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“All right, great, great. Well, I mean, I think for him to discover that this has been happening. To many, many, many people, in two-thirds of the cases you study, people say that they met people from the other side. I'm wondering because all these years, having interviewed certainly not as many people as you have, but interviewed a lot of people, it feels like the NDE is specifically designed for you. Some people experience what they've done to other people. Other people experience what people have done to them. I mean, it feels like there are commonalities, but there are also specifics.”
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“Well, I can't wait till your book comes out. I want to tell everyone that Jeremy's memoir, My Next Breath, and we see why it's called that, is available on April 29th. And I know all of the people who love and support your viewers and fans throughout the world are looking forward to reading more about your story, Jeremy. Thank you for taking time out for filming for. Mayor of Kingstone today to be with us. Thank you.”
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“I think that's a common reaction, isn't it, Dr. Grayson? It certainly is. Everybody who goes through this, they come back and the priorities for living have shifted.”
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“I also wanted to ask you this. You were just saying that you realize what matters and what doesn't matter and that bad reviews or whatever. And I just consider how devastating and demolishing to your physical body. you were able to put yourself back together and physically speak and physically move how has this experience affected your acting”
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“Well, as you've been listening to us, Jeremy here with me is Dr. Grayson, who's been studying near death experiences as a scientist for 45 years. So when you were saying in the beginning, you didn't even know there was anything to this, he's been studying it for 45 years and has talked to hundreds and hundreds of people in the field.”
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“For 30 years. It's a real thing. And I know now you've written a memoir called My Next Breath, Perfect Title, based upon what you've described. On page 75, you describe a part of your experience like this. I could see my lifetime. I could see everything all at once. It could have been for 10 seconds. It could have been for five minutes. It could have been forever. Who knows how long in that death there was no time, no time at all, yet it was also all-time and forever. What were you seeing and more importantly, what were you feeling?”
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“Well, so on New Year's Day of 2023, two-time Oscar-nominated actor Jeremy Renner was pronounced dead Dead after a harrowing accident at his home in Lake Tahoe, Jeremy joins us from the set of his hit show, Mayor of Kingstown. Jeremy, I'm so glad to see that you made it because I remember hearing that that day and feeling, oh, I can't believe. That had happened to you. So you've been listening to us. Thanks for joining us. What happened on that snowy day in Lake Tah”
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“Because Many people that you have studied have felt that connection to the oneness of all that we read about, that all religions teach about, but somehow when you go to the other side or go to the other realm, you become a part of that and you understand it differently. And that's why After is so profound, it's not just about the life after death. It's about how you choose to live.”
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“Wow, this was in 1994. I'm looking at the woman's face behind him. What is he saying? Have other people that you have studied talked about the similarities of reliving other people's experiences? The reason why that made such an impression on me. I actually got goosebumps when he said he felt everything that he'd ever done. I thought, oh, that makes sense. That is complete karmic sense that the life review would be that you feel everything you've ever done.”
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“And I remember him being on the show and saying that he used to be a really cruel person. Or I started the questions with like, I heard you used to be cruel. And he goes, Oh, that's pretty harsh, but he used to be a really pretty cruel person and was abusive to his wife. And yet he, in that near death experience, experienced everything he'd ever done to his, here's Tom Sawyer.”
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“And I, when we were preparing for you to come on the show, I mentioned to my longtime producer Terra, I said, I remember years ago, it was between 90 and 94. And the reason I remember it, because I was so struck by what he said, and it changed me. It changed the way I thought. So Tom Sawyer had had an accident where a car had fallen on him.”
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“And one of the first times I had a conversation with somebody about it was actually a gentleman that you talk about in the book after.”
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“Okay, many people you've interviewed use similar phrases like. During this experience, they knew everything and were part of everything, that there was no time. That the experience was more real than anything they knew to be real. There's also an overpowering feeling from all the people that I read about in your book and also in every experience I've encountered interviewing people. There's this overpowering similarity of people talk about unconditional love and that whether they're surrounded about by light or not, whether the light becomes religious figure for them or not. That there is the overwhelming sense of love and connectedness to everything.”
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“So, when you first started to talk about this or had the courage to actually mention things that you had experienced with patients and knew, were being awakened to NDEs, even when we weren't calling them that, you got a lot of criticism and ostracism.”
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“We don't have an opposing opinion here today because we're going to hear from people who've had this experience, but I have done shows and had multiple conversations where there are people in your same field. And scientists who say that this is some form of a hallucination based on chemicals in the brain that's causing these experiences. And I'm obviously sure you've heard this too. You've had to come up against this for many years. And what do you say about that?”
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“What struck me about the indie experience of so many different people you describe in your book is how similar they all are. So I've talked to people who experienced the whole tunnel, people who haven't experienced the tunnel and the tunnel of light. But what are the elements? And it's not just about the white light.”
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“In his latest book After A Doctor Explores What Near Death Experiences Reveal About Life and Beyond, Dr. Grayson suggests there's more to the human mind's experience beyond what we know here on Earth.”
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“In 1981 he co-founded INs, the International Association for Near-Death Studies, a group dedicated to research of this phenomenon. He's identified many universal experiences that surface through countless stories from people who were pronounced dead and came back to life.”
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“I was deeply impacted by every time I heard these stories. And over the years, I noticed that there were so many similarities in their stories that it actually got me wondering there must be something to this, right? So I'm excited to welcome Dr. Bruce Grayson to the tea house. Dr. Bruce Grayson is a psychiatrist, professor emeritus at the University of Virginia, and one of the world's foremost experts on near-death experiences, also known as Indie's. For nearly 50 years, Dr. Grayson's pioneering research has explored the depths of our relationship with death, life, and our understanding of consciousness.”
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“Hi there, everybody, and thanks so much for joining me here on the Oprah podcast and for watching us on YouTube, which is the place to watch everything now I hear billions of people all over the world are watching so many things. And I'm so glad you've joined us here. Here's a question. Have you ever wondered what happens after we die? I think if you live long enough, you actually start asking yourself that question. And I know we all have different beliefs on what lies beyond. And for some, they believe there is no beyond. We're asking today, what if science could help illuminate the mystery? What if science could do that? Okay. So I have always been fascinated by near-death experiences. I did more than 20 episodes of the Oprah Winfrey Show.”
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