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  1. Exactly. And so I think this is good for her. I think the fight and working for it is really good for her and it will pay off in the later states.

    2016-01-24 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 25 - Patti Solis Doyle · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. But you know, we're saying, we're talking about this, and how Iowa, New Hampshire, poses some problems for her, but I think once you get past New Hampshire, I think she has such a following with minority voters and the calendar really favors her. There's no doubt in my mind that she's going to be the nominee. And she's always better in a fight than she is when something's handed to her. I mean, that was proven in 2008 when she fought to the death with your former boss. And she got better

    2016-01-24 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 25 - Patti Solis Doyle · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  3. Exactly. And it's a shame, you know, that this is the way our political system works. But, you know, I think she's doing, I think she's doing a good job. The electorate is just really, really angry. You can see it not only on the Republican side, but also on the Democratic side. They're mad at Washington. They're mad at institutions.

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  4. Exactly. Look, she's not, you know, Bill Clinton, he gets so much energy from the people at his rallies, at his energy when he's working a rope line. You can just see him light up. You know, she's tired. She gets tired. She does it. She does it dutifully. It's her most fun thing to do? No. Does she would she rather be looking at policy and going through legislation and working with a bunch of experts on how to, you know, improve the Affordable Care Act? Absolutely. This is not her favorite thing to do. It's a mean. You know, to an end, I guess

    2016-01-24 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 25 - Patti Solis Doyle · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  5. Short time in comparison to her husband at least. She's run two Senate races and then a presidential and now this one a second presidential.

    2016-01-24 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 25 - Patti Solis Doyle · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  6. Like I said, when she's doing her job, she's doing her job. That is her single focus and the people around her are doing the job, I think in campaigns. They're very big, they're very

    2016-01-24 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 25 - Patti Solis Doyle · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  7. I find very interesting is that when she's doing her job, when she was Secretary of State, when she was a US senator, when she was first lady, when she was actually doing her job, her polling numbers always went through the roof. I mean, there isn't anybody who doesn't think she is a very capable person at her job. It's when she starts running for something.

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  8. That's exactly who she is. She studies, she rolls up her sleeves, she makes sure she knows all of the different sides of every issue so that she can be prepared to debate it with you. She does her homework, and sometimes that kid in class who always gets the AIDS and is always prepared is not the most inspirational kid in the class, right? But man, do you want her running the country? Absolutely. She has a level of competency that no one else has in this field, both on the Republican side and the Democratic side. And in these times, we're in some very tenuous times. I think you want her there at the helm. Because, you know, I've worked with her for a really long time.

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  9. It's a good base for Bernie. And, you know, she is not a socialist. She is a professed practical progressive, right? But she's seen as hawkish. She's seen as tough. She's seen as a moderate by a lot of people. So I will pose some problems for her.

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  10. Exactly. And that's not because they had a strategy for her to be the inevitable candidate. She just became it because You know, there weren't a lot of other people thinking about running, and nobody likes it, particularly Iowa and New Hampshire. They like to kick the tires. They like to have a race. They like to meet the candidates. They don't like to be told who to vote for. I think Iowa in particular poses a lot of problems for her.

    2016-01-24 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 25 - Patti Solis Doyle · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  11. You know, it's so. I think she seems much more comfortable in her skin this time around than she did in 2008. And I think she's much more comfortable as a candidate. I think she's much more prepared for the rigors of a campaign. I think that nobody likes an inevitable front runner. It will chimer.

    2016-01-24 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 25 - Patti Solis Doyle · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  12. Postmortems, and that, where I was the brunt of the blaming, that I was not ready for. And that really hurt. It hurt more because it would have hurt regardless, but it hurt more because She and I had a very real relationship and a very real friendship and I felt like. She wasn't defending me, but she shouldn't have. She needed a run a race. I was a campaign manager. We were losing. We lost. I needed to go. I understood that. But the personal relationship made it really, really difficult.

    2016-01-24 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 25 - Patti Solis Doyle · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  13. I did not see it. Well, I saw that we needed to make some changes, and I was actually working to try and make some changes. I did not think that I was going to be the one who was going to be let go. But I was big enough and adult enough, and I knew that, okay, I get it. I got to go, that's fine. But then the... I mean, you lived through it too. There's a lot of backstabbing and a lot of blame games and all that kind of stuff.

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  14. But you know, the consensus was that she needed to have a moment where she told voters, I get it, I hear you, I'm making changes. I know, okay, I'm going to fight for this thing. And part of those changes was letting me go. And I was

    2016-01-24 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 25 - Patti Solis Doyle · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  15. Was it given that the I remember So, one of your very, very smart students at the IOP asked this question at the last seminar, or the question was, you know, how difficult is it to be a campaign manager? And what is your relationship with the candidate? Do you want to be the friend? Do you want to be the manager? Do you want to be? I think the worst thing is to be the best friend and the campaign manager. You are absolutely right. So yeah, I got fired. We lost Iowa. We won New Hampshire. To you guys. Don't worry, I don't hold any grudges.

    2016-01-24 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 25 - Patti Solis Doyle · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  16. Anything publicly about any of the And you know, as a woman, if my husband were having some sort of extramarital affair with another woman, I'm sure I wouldn't have very nice things to say about that person privately either. I mean, that's just normal. But she never, she never said anything publicly. And I think it's its own form of sexism to somehow Blame the spouse for what the husband did. I think that's its own form of sexism.

    2016-01-24 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 25 - Patti Solis Doyle · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  17. Well, first of all she may have I think you're referring to what she said about Monica Lewinsky calling her some narcissistic loony. I think that's the word. But she said that to a friend in a personal letter. It's not like she went on television or she said it publicly. She didn't say.

    2016-01-24 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 25 - Patti Solis Doyle · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  18. And so I don't. I never, what happened between them and their marriage is their business, but I will tell you this they love each other. You see it when I worked with them closely in the White House and in Arkansas and after the White House there is a mutual respect and admiration for certain, but there's also a lot of love. I mean, she you know, they hold hands. He just sort of puts his hands on her shoulders and she lights up and vice versa. They take long walks together. They have long conversations together. It's just a very good relationship how they manage whatever happened or didn't happen is their business and I never ever. So that gets back to the...

    2016-01-24 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 25 - Patti Solis Doyle · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  19. Look, like I said, what he did was very, very wrong, but I don't know, I've been married twenty years, and I first of all You would never want to and never expect anyone to understand what goes on between me and my husband in our home, in our lives and the decisions we make and why we make them.

    2016-01-24 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 25 - Patti Solis Doyle · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  20. That was awful. It was just awful. You know, Many of us thought about quitting after what he did, but when we thought about it, well now I thought about it, I thought she didn't do anything he is the jerk here. And why would I punish her by quitting? Why would I leave her? But what he did was absolutely unacceptable for many of the young women who were working on that.

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  21. Here's what I think about that. I think what Bill Clinton did In terms of infidelity was absolutely horrible, a shitty thing to do. You were there.

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  22. I did. But I wasn't the focus of it. I mean, she was obviously the focus of it, but she has been accused of killing her friend Vince Foster. She has been accused of, you know, Whatever she was accused of being during the Whitewater investigation where she made $100,000 off of a $10,000 investment, really nasty things being said about her. Very nasty things being said about her husband. You know, the press prying into their personal life, she's been through a lot, and it's been really hard. And so I think how could she not be distressful of the media at this point? I don't blame her in the slightest. So do I think that fed into it? How could it not, of course.

    2016-01-24 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 25 - Patti Solis Doyle · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  23. There are so many different between travel gates and whitewater and from the very beginning there was just a Know a general, I think, distrust. of what her motives were, but for me having worked for her, her only motive really was to pass universal health care in this country and to, you know, impact people's lives in a positive way.

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  24. I think she was because she was not your normal first lady, like we discussed earlier. She was someone who was working on public policy. She was not elected to do anything. And so I think she ruffled a few feathers that way. I think She's a very Tough smart, strong woman, and that put people off, but we didn't understand the absolute fury she was causing among the Republicans and conservative part of the Republican Party. I mean, they just did not like her. And she didn't serve herself well either, you know,

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  25. You know, in the beginning of the White House years, we were a little dumbfounded by it. Like we didn't understand really how she could be causing so much angst among the media because she do think.

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  26. No, I had a friend of mine, Richard Mintsteller, that But you know, as a 25 year old woman just out of college really trying to figure out what her life was supposed to be like, that kind of spoke truth to power. Yeah, why did I go to college to begin with, if not to pursue a career

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  27. How would your mom My mom was upset. She's like, What's wrong with having cookies and tea? She was upset. But I wasn't. I think it was a very much a generational. And I knew it was going to be a problem. I mean, you heard it come out of her mouth and you knew instantaneously. Were you there when she said it? I was. And you knew instantaneously. Did you tell her that?

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  28. Well, at that point, I had been around the campaign long enough to know that that was going to be a problem. You know, she had been off, that was just an off putting remark to many women who, you know, but was it to you?

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  29. Did she have So she, here she was, a woman who was clearly brilliant, extremely well educated, extremely strong, married, With a child and very much calling The shots in her own life, and I found that stunning. I have a great deal of love and respect and admiration for my mother, but her life was Working in the home, outside of the home only to make enough money to provide dinner for her family, but very much subservient to my father. My father called the shots, and here I was seeing a marriage for the first time where it was very equal. And that was very impressive to me

    2016-01-24 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 25 - Patti Solis Doyle · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  30. African Americans, Hispanics all together in one place working towards one goal. That was also different for me. I had grown up in a very I grew up in the little Mexico of Chicago, and when I went to Northwestern, yes, there were tons of different types of people, but I sort of kept to my own people. So this was a huge. But what impacted her?

    2016-01-24 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 25 - Patti Solis Doyle · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  31. Well, it was it was huge. I mean, let's go back. I mean, my parents didn't even want me to go to college. They wanted me to get married and have kids and, you know, be happy. That was their idea of pure happiness for a woman. When I went to Arkansas, you know, Mexican girls don't. Live outside their parents' house until they get married. So the idea that you're going to live in another state and work for someone, you know. That they didn't talk to me for like six months because they thought I was making the biggest mistake of my life. So this was a completely new world for me, completely, not only in terms of meeting all these other people on the campaign that came from all sorts of walks of life, different parts of the country Asians, you know, it just

    2016-01-24 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 25 - Patti Solis Doyle · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  32. Yes. World kind of. Yes, yes, yes. But, you know, she also did the traditional First Lady role. You know, she organized the state dinners. She picked the flowers. She picked the Christmas ornaments. She did all of that too. It wasn't like she left something undone.

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  33. Exactly, and that was really it turned people off, not just like. The media, but it turned people in the West Wing off. Like this has never been done before. So it caused some issues for us. But that's when we all sort of came together. You guys felt certain.

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  34. That's unprecedented. But what was more unprecedented is she took on the role of universal health care, a huge policy that the Clinton administration was going to take on. So she felt like, you know, she not only needed an office in the West Wing so that she can work with the rest of the staff because she was like a staff person. But also

    2016-01-24 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 25 - Patti Solis Doyle · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  35. There is. There's always a little bit of push and pull, but in this instance, it was much more pronounced because she was the kind of first lady that had never really existed before. You know, there's no real set job description for first. Did

    2016-01-24 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 25 - Patti Solis Doyle · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  36. As a website on paper. Exactly So the wall of pictures got some notoriety, and the campaign headquarters and then, um, I dubbed it Hillary Land, that little corner of the office, and then from there other areas of the campaign started, you know, there became Tippertown, there became plain world. That's where, you know, all the The scheduling logistics was. Anyway, Hillary Land really stuck. Throughout the White House years, because we became a very close knight. And we worked really well together. It was sort of like us against. The West Wing, the East Wing

    2016-01-24 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 25 - Patti Solis Doyle · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  37. So Hiller in the beginning Hillary land was this group of women and we were all women who worked for her in the beginning. and we were very, very close. I'll tell you the story so we all it started in ninety two in Arkansas and There were a few of us, there were three or four of us at the time, all women, and we had a very small section of the campaign headquarters, this vast campaign headquarters, a very little corner next to the scheduling operation, just the three of us. I think there were three of us at one desk because we were a small operation. And I started collecting newspaper photos of Hillary as she went on her campaign events. I'd clip the photos and I put them up on the wall that was next to our desk.

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  38. You were doing rescheduling. I was doing everything. I was the only person working for her. So I was doing her scheduling. I was traveling with her. I did her correspondence. I picked up her dry cleaning. I did everything for her for about six months until the campaign really started doing well and was able to raise more money. And she was actually quite sought after in the beginning of that campaign as his number one surrogate. It was two for the price of one, so she was campaigning as hard as he was, except for that caveat she needed to be home at night for Chelsea. And it was a great, great experience. And, you know, I tell people I started working for Hillary before she was Hillary Clinton, the icon. I started working for Hillary when she was a working mom, really. And so we sort of grew up in politics together.

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  39. I said okay, because, you know, I was new, I was young, I wanted to make a good impression. So I went and I from the get-go, I could tell she was just really smart, really strong, didn't take any shit from anybody, and was just like, Okay, here's what I expect from you. Here's what I'd like to do. I've never run in a national campaign before. Neither have you, so we're going to learn this thing together. And the most important thing for me is I need to be home for my daughter, Chelsea, at least four nights a week, and I need to go to her games. So let's start with that premise and work from there. And I'm like,

    2016-01-24 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 25 - Patti Solis Doyle · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  40. She's named Hillary. At that time, I don't even know what her name was And so I landed. I reported straight to David's office, and David said, You're going to work for the spouse. You're going to love her. She's great. She's a lawyer. She's really smart. And I was very disappointed. I was like, what? No, I mean, you know, I just didn't think that's where the action was going to be. I just didn't think I would get a good experience. I just thought I was being relegated. And I was very bummed out. David said, you got to go over to the governor's mansion and meet her. She's really anxious to start working with somebody on this campaign.

    2016-01-24 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 25 - Patti Solis Doyle · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  41. Was 91 now. Right. This is 91. I had no idea who Bill Clinton was, but I had worked with David Wilhelm on Daly's campaign. And David was really struggling to find people to move to Little Rock, Arkansas to work for Bill Clinton because nobody knew who he was, much less, you know, did they think he was ever going to be president of the United States? So he asked me to sort of suit up and I just jumped at the shot because, you know, it's a national campaign and I loved campaigns. The idea of leaving Chicago, I had never leftten on an airplane before that leaving Chicago was exciting to me. So I went and it just so happened that the day I landed, Bill Clinton's wife had been complaining that she didn't have any staff people to help her.

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  42. City Hall Which I very much enjoyed, but then daily ran for election, re-election. And I worked on that campaign. And that's when I really fell in love because I was able to marry what I felt was a calling for social justice and the game of politics, which was fantastic. I mean, when you're a young person and you're working 18 hours a day and you're working on adrenaline and you're working competing against another team and it's just a lot of fun and I thought wow this is cool

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  43. Exactly. And he's very well liked, and he's been doing the job for 30 years. What a great job he's doing. When I graduated, he really wanted to show me what he did. You know, he wanted to take me to rallies and canvassing and into people's living rooms and talk about their struggles because that's what Danny did and my brother Danny. He advocated for the people in our neighborhood. And so I went along, really not knowing what to expect. And I heard, you know, folks didn't have health care insurance. Folks couldn't go to the doctor when their kids were sick. You know, kids were getting shot at school. Kids were getting beat up at school. They didn't feel safe in their communities. And then he took me to a rally. And I got really pumped up. And then he introduced me to Mayor Daly and some of the people that worked for him. And I got a job working.

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  44. In the area where I grew up, and he's currently an alderman for the area where we grew up, which is a huge sense of pride for the whole family. But, you know, he just wanted to...

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  45. Yeah, so I graduated from college and like every kid who graduated from college, they're looking for a job. My brother had been a community organizer at the time. In that area,

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  46. He's a retired firefighter. I have a. A sister who worked for the CTA here in Chicago, I have many nieces and nephews who are teachers. One Marine who has served three terms in Iraq. We have nurses. We have and we have people raising families. We have moms raising families

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  47. Well, extremely personally, how can you not having a father and mother like I do? I mean, it's a, I understand, I'm also involved in politics, so I understand the rhetoric, and I understand the bombast, and I understand trying to win a primary. But for me, these are real people with real families and real stories and for them to demonize these people. It's just very hurtful to me personally and hurtful to my family who have gone through a lot to get to where they are and who've all contributed to this country in their own way.

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  48. Oh, my father cried and my mother cried. My whole family cried. It was a very momentous occasion. For him, it was a far, far trip from the streets of Monte Mexico, shining shoes to his youngest daughter walking down. Isle in a cap and gown.

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  49. But the daughter of Mexican parents, very traditional Mexican parents, they were like, you don't need to go to college. You could just get married, have some kids, and be happy. And I fought for that to go to college. I did well, and I graduated.

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  50. Very, yes, but it was a tough neighborhood when I was growing up, and so my dad was like, You're just not leaving the house. You're not leaving our apartment. You can go to school, come home. And that was it. So with very little else to do, I studied and I did pretty well and I got a full ride to Northwestern University. But that was even tough.

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