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  1. Thank you for being enough of a psychopath to. Actually, just sign on to come into the Amazon rainforest in a suit. And a year ago, when you told me that you were going to do this, I truly didn't believe you. So for being a man of your word and for the incredible work you do to connect humans and to create dialogue and to do good in the world, and for all the adventures that we've had, thank you so much

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  2. Come to believe that again, back to that Christ wasn't a Christian, Muhammad wasn't a Muslim, and Buddha wasn't a Buddhist. That the game, the game is love. Compassion And the universe is chaotic and dangerous, and nature is chaotic and dangerous. But if this is some sort of a biological video game, our reality... The test is can we be good And we go through it every day. Can you be good to your parent? Can you be good to your partner? Can you be good to your coworkers? It's so difficult. And we see how people can cheat and steal and hurt and destroy. And the incredible impact that it has on the world, the returning exponential. Impact that one act of kindness, one act of good can do. And so. I see nature as God. I see the religions as different cultural manifestations of the same truth. Same creative force.

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  3. It's kind of a unifying theory if you think about it. I mean, all of the chaos of history and the wars and the chaos of nature, through technology and Organization, there's so many people, more people today than ever before, I think, who are so concerned, who realize that the incredible power like what Jane Goodall says about how you can affect the people around you, how you can do good in the world, how you can change the narrative of conservation from one of loss and darkness to one of innovation and light. Like we can do incredible things. We are the masters as humans. And I think that we're on the cusp of sort of understanding the true potential of that. Like I just think that more than ever people have harnessed this ability to do good in the world and be proud of it and just change the darkness into something else.

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  4. The brutality of nature is the chaos, and I think that. We are the only ones in it that are capable of organizing in the direction of order and light. So, yes, there are going to be hyenas. Yes, there's going to be war-torn nations and poor starving children, but we as humans have the power. To work towards something more organized than that.

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  5. It's not that easy, but it's kind of fun sometimes. And we're at a better time. Like when you think about like the Middle Ages, like even if you were a king, you still didn't have that good. You didn't have pineapples in the winter. You didn't even know what the fuck a pineapple was. We have pineapples whenever we want them. We can fly on planes to other countries.

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  6. And I'm so colorblind and race blind and everything else. I've lived in India. My friends are Peruvian. My family, we got Italian, Filipino, just everything. And so I'm so immersed in it that when I find it very jarring and disconcerting how much time we spend talking about different religions and just the differences in humans. I'm like, dude, we're talking about whether or not our ecosystems are going to be able to provide for us. We're talking about nuclear, what we're talking about, there's some pretty serious shit on the table. And we're over here arguing over shades of gray. It's so trivial. And that drives me crazy. And as does the outrage where it's like, no, you have to care. I've been criticized for not caring enough about that. And I'm like.

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  7. That's the thing. I don't, you know. My life has been the United Nations of whatever. Like I just every, to me, I just, I don't, that's the other thing. You go back to society and everyone's obsessed with race. To me, I'm like, look, leopards have black babies and yellow babies, one mother. Like they're all leopards.

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  8. Yeah, it would. But yeah, at the same time, though, like the Kurt Cobain value of that, if I died doing what I love to protect the river, I'd be so worth so much more a lot. Like we'd get the 30 million if I died tomorrow for sure. So we've already talked about this with my friends. I'm like, if I get whacked. Do the foundation, make the documentary, protect the river, protect the heartbeats, call it the heartbeats, jungle keepers the heartbeats. Know, be ready for it because these things do happen, people get pissed if you get in their way, and as many happy people whose lives were changing, there's also going to be some jealous, shitty, upset people who are mad that they can't make prostitutes out of young girls and keep destroying the planet. And so they might just erase you.

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  9. That is a dark question, but I think most likely I'll get whacked by lagers I think that lagers or gold miners will take me out. I don't picture myself going from animals

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  10. If I have a percentage of Siever when I would be honored. But I think there's only one Steve. I think that he occupied his own strata of just shining light. Everything was positive enthusiasm, love, and happiness and saved the animals and do better. And let's make it fun. And that was so infectious that it sort of transcended his TV show. It transcended his conservation work. It transcended business and entrepreneurship. It just through sheer magnetism and enthusiasm, he just, I mean, everyone knew who Steve was. Everyone loved Steve. We still all love Steve. And so it's just amazing what one spirit can do. So if anybody, you know, makes that comparison, I get really uncomfortable because to me, Steve Irwin is like just the. Goat. I'm okay with that

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  11. Or lead, it was lead poisoning. And it's like, oh, you know, a few million people died that way. And it's like, you want a good death. You want to staring down the eyes of a tiger or hanging off the edge of a cliff saving somebody's something worthy, warrior's death.

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  12. I don't anymore because I've come to believe that there is a benevolent. Spirit Creator. I don't think about my own death. We have a little bit of time here, and we clearly know nothing about what we're doing here. And it seems like we just have to do the best we can. And so I just doesn't scare me. I've come close to dying a lot of times. And I just don't think you don't want to have a bad death, first of all. You don't want to be a statistic. You don't want to find out. You don't want to try out, be the first to try out a new product. And oops, it crushed you. That's a terrible way to go. Or the people that used to, you know, in the gold rush, they were using mercury and they were all getting...

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  13. And there's that, again, there's that deep meaning of that here where we can be the guardians for good. We can hold that candle up and know for sure that we're protecting the trees from being destroyed. And it's that simple thing of just, this is good. There you go In society, I feel like everyone's always losing their minds and forgetting the most basic of fundamental truths. And out here, you can't really argue with them. When we needed water, it was like, shit, if we don't get water, we're fucked And that's to me, that's where the camaraderie comes from because no matter what, we could go to the most fancy ass restaurant, biggest, most famous people in the world. Doesn't matter. Still remember what it was like standing around in the jungle going fuck, we're scared, we don't have water.

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  14. Some animal that had never seen it until Times Square. And you could just imagine this dog with its ears back running away from taxis and just cowering from the noise. And it's just hustle and bustle and people are brutal and how much you want it for get in the car screaming over the intercom and just everything sensory changes and let's get home. Okay, let's go. You got a meeting. You got to get to the next place. You got to give a talk. You got to sign. Howdy, out here. When we finish up here, what are we going to do? We're going to eat some food, maybe go catch a crocodile, go walk around the jungle and I like it's slower. It makes sense.

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  15. You know, there's the losing the madness over the mountains. Nature has always, and for many people, been where things make sense. And to me, I think I'm a simple analog type of person that it makes sense that when it rains, you get in the river to stay warm and you wait for the dawn and you see a little tree snake and it makes more sense. And I think that the overwhelming teeming complexity that is inside the ant mound of society can be dizzying for some people. And I think that maybe it's the dyslexia. Maybe it's just that I love nature. Now, if I when I land in JFK, I I feel like a frightened animal. It's as if you released a

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  16. For me, it's comforting being out here because I find the rat race, the national narrative, the need to make money, the to worry about war, to be outraged about the newest thing that that politician said and what that actor did. And it just, there's always just this, just unending sort of media storm, and everyone's worried and everyone's trying to optimize their sunlight exposure and find the solution and buy the right new thing. To me, coming out here. First of all, I mean something out here because I can help someone. I can help people. I can help these animals. And so I find my meaning out here But also

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  17. And you know what the kid from Into the Wild learned right before he died in that bus that if you don't have somebody to share it with? Doesn't matter

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  18. Yeah, I mean, the first 15 years we were doing this, we. Would be times that JJ would be busy in town with his family, and I would for sheer love of the rainforest, I would have to come alone out here. And we didn't have running water. I didn't have lights. All I had was a couple of candles in the darkness and a tent, and I was 20-something years old living in the Amazon by myself. Your boat sunk. And yeah, it's incredibly lonely. I had to learn through experience because I thought there was a period, I think when you're, you know, you're young. As a young man, I had this thing I wanted to prove that I could be like the explorers. I wanted to prove that I could. Handle the elements that I could go out alone, that I could have these deep connective moments with the jungle. And it's like, I did that. And that's great.

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  19. and their deadly accurate. They can take spider monkeys out of a tree. And so their stories of lagers, and I've seen the photos of the bodies, of loggers who attacked one of the tribes, and the tribes hadn't done anything, but these loggers came around to bend. They started shooting shotguns at the tribe, and the tribes scattered into the forest. And as the logger's boat went around a bend, they just started flying arrows, took out the boat driver, boat, skidded to the side, and then everybody was standing in the river. You can't run. And the tribe just descended on them and just porcupined them full of arrows.

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  20. And they shot at him. They shot three arrows at him, and one of them actually hit him in the skull and put him in the hospital, and he got helicopter evacuated from his community. And so he's brave for surviving, but he's a lucky survivor. They are incredibly accurate with those bamboo-tipped arrows, and those arrows are seven feet long. So when you get hit by one, they come at a velocity that can rip through you. And the range on a shotgun is way shorter than the range on a longbow Talking about a couple hundred meters on a longbow

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  21. This is complicated because the anthropologist in me wants to Say that they have a historical reason for the violent life that they have. You know, they experienced incredible generational trauma some time ago. And because they've been living isolated in the jungle that has permeated to become their culture, they've become a culture of violence. But yet the contacted modern indigenous communities that we work with that are my friends that work here just the other day, we were speaking to one of them who was pulling spikes out of your hand while he was explaining that he tried to help them, the brothers, Los Hermanos. He tried to help them. He tried to give them a gift. What did they do? They shot him in the head.

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  22. And so, is it a human rights issue that we protect the last people on earth that have no government, no affiliation, no language that we can explain? We don't know what their medicinal plant knowledge is. We don't know their creation myths. We know nothing about them. And they're just out there right now with bows and arrows living in the dark, surviving in the jungle, naked, without even spoons. Forget about the wheel, forget about iPhones. They got nothing, and they're making it work.

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  23. And since that time, they've been out there, and it's confusing because in a way they're still running scared a century later, and their grandparents would have told them, you know, the outside world, everyone you see in the outside world is trying to kill you. So kill them first. So can you blame them for being violent? No. Is this river still wild because loggers were scared to go here for a long time, for almost a century late? That's why this forest is still here? Yes.

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  24. So, from the best I understand it, that At the turn of the century, industrial revolution. We had sudden immense need for rubber, for hoses and gaskets and wires and tires, and the war machine, and the only way to get rubber was to come down to the Amazon rainforest and get the local people who knew the jungle to go out into the jungle and cut rubber trees and collect the latex. And Henry Ford tried doing Fordlandia, tried having rubber plantations, but Leaf Blight killed it. And so you had this period of horrendous extraction in the Amazon where the rubber barons were coming down and just raping and pillaging the tribes and making them go out. And the uncontacted tribe said no. Had their six foot longbows, seven foot long arrows with giant bamboo tips, and they moved further back into the forest. Said, we will not be conquered.

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  25. They're living such primitive isolated nomadic lives in the modern world, and they're still living naked out in the jungle. It's truly incredible. It's truly remarkable. And I think that it's because they can't advocate for themselves, they can't protect themselves, it's sort of like, well, we can let them get shot up by lagers and get let their land get bulldozed while they hide. They have no idea that their world is being destroyed. But they're sort of the scariest and most fascinating thing out there right now in the jungle.

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  26. What I find most fascinating about the uncontacted tribes is that while me and you are sitting here with microphones and a light, somewhere out there in that darkness, in that direction, not so far away as the crow flies. There are people sitting around a fire in the dark, probably with little more than a few leaves over their heads. Who don't even have the use of stone tools. Who only have metal objects that they've stolen from nearby communities?

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  27. Each of these little creatures contributes to this massive orchestral whole that creates climactic stability on this planet and the Amazon is one of the most important parts of that in each of these little guys is playing a role in there.

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  28. Exactly. To me, After almost 20 years down here, the people here have become my friends, the Cayman on the river, the monkeys. When I fall asleep at night, I think about all the different heartbeats, all the different little creatures here that when they... Bulldoze this forest when they chop down these trees that they vanish, that we take away their world. And in that very evolutionary historical sense of remembering the primordial soup, it's like this little creature is surviving out here somehow and we have the chance to save it. And even if you don't care about the little creature on the pale blue dot.

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  29. We really are in the jungle. That's one of my favorite snakes. That's one of my favorite little aliens on this planet. Look at

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  30. Thank you, Mr. Snake. Go back up into the tree. We go, there you go, there you go. There you go. And then we can resume normal podcasting now

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  31. He's okay. He's just trying to back out. Yeah, they did release. Okay, this is what I'm gonna do. Going to say thank you, Mr. Snake

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  32. In the jungle, and then for everyone listening, as we're handling the snake that we found. That was crawling by us, like literally by our shoulders as we're talking, a bat flies through no joke eight inches from Lex's ear, like just zips past his head as he's holding a snake while we're sitting here in the jungle. It's just, we're just in it now. Now he's going to try and back up.

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  33. Just want you to try holding them and real gentle. Just be the tree and just kind of do the same thing you learned last night, just nice and gentle. Yup. And see, he's holding on to my finger right now. He's just going up. There you go. Perfect. Nice and easy. He's a little erratic. He's a little goofy.

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  34. Yeah, the snake just naturally knows to go look, you just put him anywhere near leaves, and he's like, I got this. He just wants to go right up into that tree.

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  35. And the snake just showed up at that moment. And this is a very active little snake who's out for a hunt tonight and wants to find something to eat. This is a blunt headed tree snake, totally harmless, literally a moving shoestring, super beautiful little animal. When you talk about aliens to me, this is an alien. Like, what are you thinking? What are you doing right now? What are you thinking about the fact that we are handled, being handled? These giant humans.

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  36. Yeah, just to describe this as we were talking here, it's just a sort of banded white and brown snake with this tiny little head about the size of my pinky nail. Two thirds of this snake's head is made up of its gigantic eyes. It's got a small mouth and it's It's about a third as thick as a pencil. It's basically a moving shoestring. It's incredibly, incredibly thin. The only thing I am thinking, Lexo, is that if we have Dan come and just do some shots

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  37. And also for everyone listening, the odds of that as we're sitting here doing this podcast that a snake would just be crawling by in the jungle might sound like something that would happen, but The density of snakes in the Amazon rainforest makes this a very unique experience.

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  38. About the snake. Harmless little snake. If you put your hand out, he'll probably just crawl onto your hand. Just be real careful with the fire. So look, I'm just going to put them like this Yeah, let's just snake safety. So he's a tree snake. Yep, nice and slow. Nice and slow, nice and slow. So you nice and slow. Just really slow. Just be the tree. Be the tree that he climbs on. This is like again, this is a snake that's so thin and so small. You go, there you go. Nice and slow. Just be the tree. Let him crawl around. So he's going to try and do all this stuff. Let me see if I can just calm them down for a sec. Let me just see. He's very active, little snake. So, see like the snake the other night? Okay, just caution. Look at this. I can see the light through his body To me, this is an alien This is this strange little life form.

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  39. Okay, let's just go right back into this. Look at this little beauty creation. Let's keep you away from the fire. Look at this little blunt headed tree snake. Such an incredible

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  40. I'm just going to move. I don't want you to move. I'm going to just. This is one of the most beautiful snakes in the Amazon rainforest. This is the blunt-headed tree snake. Snakes, I've been hoping that you would get to see this snake. I have been praying.

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  41. In the next Year and a half as you saw in your time here, there's roads working around the jungle heapers concessions. All the work that the local people are doing to protect this land is trying to be dismantled by international corporations that are subcontracting logging companies here. And really what we need is $30 million in the next two years to protect the whole thing. You've seen the ancient mahogany trees. You've seen the families of monkeys. You've seen the Cayman and the River. All of this is standing in the pathway of destruction. That road, they're going to come down that road and men with chainsaws are going to dismantle a forest that has been growing since the beginning. This is so magical. Do you see the snake over there?

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  42. It's interesting to me that the most Devastating Destruction of nature, the complete erasure of the rainforest, burned to the ground, sucked through a hose, spit out into a disgusting mercury puddle like the complete annihilation of life on Earth goes hand in hand with the complete annihilation of a young life It's like it's all based around the same thing. It's the light versus the dark. It's the destruction and the chaos versus a move towards order and hope. It is incredibly dark, and this region is heavy with it.

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  43. And so it's really a win win for the animals, for the river, for the rainforest, for people. It's biocentric conservation. It's just making everything better.

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  44. Becoming a trained ranger. Like last month, our ranger coordinator and one of our female rangers went to Africa for a ranger conference. And it's like, we're beginning to, this is someone from a little tiny village with thatched huts upriver. She went to Africa to talk about being a professional conservation ranger. And it's like that's changing lives. And her daughters then she's married to Ignacio, the guy. Their kids are going to grow up seeing their parents walking around with the emblem on and go, oh, I want to. And then people like Pico and Pedro and all these guys that work here are going to go, well, we have to protect this forest. And then they start getting fascinated about the snakes. And then they start caring about the turtle eggs. And then all of a sudden, they have a way of life. And nobody needs to go be, nobody needs to go steal anybody's kids to be a prostitute and a gold mine. That's horrible.

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  45. I think that we have. Rare chance. To do something against that darkness. I think that this is an example of local people who have Taken action, done good work, been good to the people that have visited. Harnessed a certain amount of international momentum. And now we're on the cusp of doing something historic. And so for the children in the communities along this river. Won't be being a prostitute in a gold mine. It'll be.

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  46. And that's what's been so exciting when he started this, when JJ started this 30 years ago, he had no idea. His father wanted him to be a logger. He didn't have shoes until he was 13 years old. He grew up bathing in the river. He had no idea that a bunch of crazy foreigner scientists were going to show up and Some guy in a James Bond suit was going to come down here with microphones and that all of a sudden the world would know that he was on this quest to protect this incredible ecosystem and all those little aliens.

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  47. If we did, if let's just say some company organization or if enough people donated it, let's just say we got that 30 million, that money would go directly into stopping logging roads, into creating a corridor, a biological corridor that connects the uncontacted Indigenous reserves with other tribal lands, with Manu National Park, with the Tambopata, which establishes essentially the largest protected area in the Amazon rainforest. And what makes this groundbreaking is that we're not doing this in the traditional way. We're doing this, take it to the people.

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  48. Me and my kids look at your Instagram often after dinner and they really want to protect the heartbeats. They really want to protect the animals and the rainforest. And so we do, we give $5 a month to jungle keepers. And it was to me that was so impactful because I used to be that little kid worried about the animals. And I saw how a few million raindrops can create a flood.

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  49. Just monkeys, birds, reptiles, amphibians, birds, mammals, this entire avatar on Earth world of rainforest that produces a fifth of the oxygen we breathe in the water we drink. This incredible thing, as far as I know, it's the most direct way to protect that. And so the fact that we've, you know, we have large funders who give us $100,000 to protect this huge swath of land. And that goes through things like this and through Instagram, it goes directly to the local conservationists who work with the loggers to protect that land before it's cut. But one of the most impactful things that has happened this year in the wake of our last conversation was that I got an email from a mother and she said, you know, I'm a single mom and I work a few jobs and I can't afford to give you a ton of money, but

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  50. If people donate to jungle keepers, what you're doing is you're helping. Someone like JJ, who's an Indigenous naturalist, who has the vision, who has seen forest be destroyed, he's trying to protect it before it's too late. You're saving Mahogany trees, ironwood trees, K-puck trees, skyscrapers of life.

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