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“Feel good. I'll make them feel killed. I can promise they'll go to heaven, you know. All right. This has been a great conversation”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Anybody wants to write a check? I'm here to talk to you. Just call me. You'll take their money. I got some ideas for you, Paul. I can make them feel great about it.”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Because So I hear Facebook's giving away money, out of guilt, out of sheer guilt for ruining the entire. Anybody wants to write a check? I'm here to talk to you. Just call me. You'll take their money. I got some ideas for you, Paul. I know some and I can irritate them into giving you money. I'm always trying to take their money as much as possible and make them feel bad about it so they feel good.”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I would take even one would make a big difference because I think, you know, as a lot of people are worried about the future of journalism and are investing a lot of great organizations, I've been looking at things like Report for America and others, but we're here and we have an infrastructure and we are hugely trusted. So this is a place where you can make big impact.”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“20 years from now, as innovative as we can be. I work with a lot of creative people that are all in the tech space, and we can't be afraid to be bold and to move into that space as much as possible. And my goal before I hang up my skates, whenever that is, is I would love to see us with more funding so that we're not lurching from year to year trying to figure out how to knit things together. You need an internet.”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I think in 20 years, you know, it's interesting. We do a strategic plan that we build on a three-year basis because for me, it's always hard to, I mean, I just look back three years ago and not to mention 13 years ago when I started and how much shifts. But I would hope a few things. One is that the principles around our content are intact. I think that's our guide star. I mean, we want to do important stories that are authentic and that make a difference in people's lives. And I would hope that people from now would not trade on that. I would also hope that as media continues to evolve, that PBS continues to be innovative. I mean, people don't know that we created closed captioning, that we were the first big media organization to use satellite broadcasting. Tech, we've been ahead of the curve every step of the way. And so I think we need to be.”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We have great conservatives. Here's cold water for peep's sake. Very good. Water for pizza's sake. Come Not less. Right. Anyway. And so if you had to pick PBS in 20 years, how would you look at that? What would you think it is?”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Situation before. So I just think it's just, I don't know. If I understood what fired it, I just don't know. But it is what it is. And so all we can do, and look, we have, you know, look buried goldwater for Pete's sake was a huge fan of public broadcasting. We have great conservatives. Barry Goldwater for Pete's sake. Barry Goldwater for Pete's sake. Come on. So, you know, he was very close to Joan Cooney, who founded Sesame Workshop. He saw, you know, I mean, there's a wonderful video of Fred Rogers on Capitol Hill talking about what he was attempting to do with this series. And I think if people really understood what we were doing, you know, then they would say, you know, maybe we should give you more money, not less. Anyway.”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Absolutely. We are using Protect My Public. If you're listening and you want to be part of a movement, go to ProtectMypublic and you can be part of it. You don't even have to do that. Just call or email your legislator.”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, you know, but I don't know. I mean, look, we live in this weird time, and I loved Gwen Eiffel. She was, in addition to a fantastic colleague, a great friend, and she used to always say, look, our role is to bring light not heat. And some people aren't comfortable with light.”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, you know, if you look back, I mean, people will take exception with front lines or they'll take, you know, they'll point at documentaries that we've done. There were some hearings, I think it must have been last year's go around where people were looking some of the independent film. We do a lot of independent film more than some of the stations that get recognized as being the home of independent film. We've always been. And if you show different people's perspectives, that makes people uncomfortable sometimes. Absolutely. That's the most liberal we get.”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Radio, probably a little bit radio more, but you know, look, I've talked to enough people who say, well, you know, you're awfully liberal. And I said, well, just point to me what that is. You know, tell me what that is. Because, you know, if liberal means that we really work hard to try to have lots of different perspectives, but I don't think so. And when you talk to most people, they don't see it. So I don't understand why we're a political pawn. And it's frustrating because I will tell you, Carrie, the amount of time and energy that goes into this every year to have to make this case is time that gets pulled away from other things.”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So the argument is yeah, go raise your own money. And then I point to the commercial market will pick it up. And I always say, really? That works maybe in the short term for a project or two, but on a sustained basis, who's there? And go to all the communities I'm visiting where the only remaining reporters there are television and radio reporters. And I think it really matters in this society.”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And they want to be reelected. And so if their constituents say this matters to me, then chances are not going to vote to wipe us out. But, you know, look, I am very sympathetic. There are lots of things that could be funded. And we could very easily fall off the table like the NEA and the NEH and all these other wonderful organizations. If people don't step up and say this matters, and I think that's the important thing. So”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know, are you really worried about this? Because you always go through this and it's all going to be okay, right? And I said only if people reach out to the legislators and say this matters to me because the two things that legislators care about is they do care about their constituents, three things. I think that most people come to Washington wanting to do right. You might agree or disagree with what right means, but I think most people have a larger idea of what they think is good for their community, right? So you assume that. The second thing is they care about their constituents. That's who they're representing.”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, what have you tried to zero out the, I remember Jesse Helms were involved in something. So what happens now is actually really important. And what I really worry about, because I just was talking to someone this morning who said,”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So in addition to using our own stuff, there are a lot of organizations that have really great content. Smithsonian, National Archives, NASA, all these organizations have really beautiful material and they always think, well, the teachers will come and they'll find our stuff. They're not going to do that. And so taking their stuff and doing for them what we do in broadcast, which is taking other producers' stuff and vetting it properly and vetting it and then putting it in the right context and putting it with lesson plans and offering it up is something really powerful. All of that is what the federal budget helps to fund.”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And you can pull out the right clips so that they can, you know, most classes are now wired with broadband so they can use it.”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Closet and you get the cart and you thread the film, and we'd all watch it with our heads on our desks. And, you know, but teachers today, really what they want to be able to do is use bits of content in the classroom. You know, kids are surrounded by media, and then they go into classrooms that a lot of times look like they did when you and I were in school. And so creating, you know, so if you look at this legacy of all this great content that we use, and I was always impressed when I'd see a teacher that would buy a DVD and then figure out the right place in the DVD to play the, you know. And so, you know, so everything's digitized. And we can also take the content and break it up. So rather than having 16 hours or 18 hours of Vietnam from Ken Burns or the Civil War series, you can take the curriculum that teachers are using in the classroom because the other thing, besides money that teachers don't have is time.”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I worry a lot, and my children are going to have disadvantages because we're in a remote part in Nebraska. But you're in our lives. And you make the difference to my kids. And if you mess this up, you were putting my kids at risk. And I just want you to remember that I think about that guy every day. Now, I've had. The point is, you know, one of our biggest advocates on Capitol Hill is Tom Cole from Oklahoma. He knows what we do. He also knows, you know, we do this other work. You know, we've been talking a lot about digital and all this stuff that we're doing for general audience population. We run a project called Learning Media. It is a broadband pipe into classrooms with educational assets. Now, what does that mean? So I don't know if you remember this. Remember a kid, and the teacher would want an hour off in the afternoon and they'd find the kid from the AV club with a pocket protector and he'd go into the club.”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Because I need to tell you something. And he said, You cannot screw this up. And I, you know, I said, Well, well, you know, I'm doing my little Paula thing and saying, well, you know, this is what we're going to do and everything. He says, no, no. He said, I want you to hear my story. He said, I am raising my children on the farm I grew up on.”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Priorities are a little different, and I knew my station in New York, but I knew it was very different than our station in Peoria or Nebraska Educational Television, which is a statewide network. So I went to Nebraska and they had a nice little reception for me. And this guy came in, and he was a farmer. And he had driven three hours to come to this reception. And he walked over and he looked me in the eye and he shook my hand and he told me that he'd driven three hours and he said, I came.”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And right now, the number that comes into public television public radio is 445 million. Small. Small. $1.35 per person per year. Can't even buy a cup of coffee in most communities. That's for both of them together. That's for both together. That goes into the corporation public water. Goes into the corporation. One piece goes to radio. One piece goes to television. And so, you know, the thing that has, and I made reference to this a little while ago, the thing that I think has been very helpful for public broadcasting is that there are a lot of people around the country that really count on us. One of the, really, it's truly a gift, actually, of this job is being able to visit communities. And I remember one of the very first stations I visited was Nebraska. And I was very focused when I first took the job of visiting parts of the country that I didn't know as well, and particularly smaller communities. I wanted to understand how the public television stations worked because although all the stations are similar, they're different.”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, what he's recommended with the administration has recommended is really eliminating the corporation for public broadcasting, which is a quasi-governmental organization, which is actually how the federal money flows from Treasury to our stations. And so it is an entity that takes in the federal appropriation. It makes sure that our stations are operating as they should as nonprofit public broadcasting entities. And then it distributes them out based on a formula. And so by zeroing out the money flowing to it, it eliminates the organization because you don't need an organization if you have no money to divvy up. And it would be an existential issue for probably a third of the stations in our country, largely in rural communities. And so what we have.”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And it should. And it should. So, you know, the president submits his budget recommendation this year as it has been for the last two years, the recommendation is zero funding for public broadcasting. And so where we start is... And it's a little more complicated because we actually, our funding is put forward two years in advance.”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That people understand. I can also give you a civics lesson on how budgets become laws. There was a children's show. That's it. That's it. So as you know, the budget belongs to Congress.”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The successor of Mr. Rogers' neighborhood. Oh, okay. So for years, we have talked to Fred's company about doing a new Mr. Rogers neighborhood. And there is no other Fred. And so Angela Santramura, who was quite inspired by him, had interned with him, had gone on to do blues clues for Nickelodeon. And she really spent time thinking about how could you reinvent Mr. Rogers so she did animate it. She did a little live action. And Daniel Tiger is Daniel Stripe at Tiger Son. And it's all social and emotional skills, everything from potty training to, you know, how to deal with anger. There are episodes that I've benefited from tremendously these last years. And it's the number one program very heavily streamed by the way. Yeah, interesting.”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Us what Fred Rogers knew. What are the most popular kids? Ours was Tinky Winky, and there were wiggles involved, and I think there was the magic school bus all the time. Yeah, those are all great. The number one...”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, I don't think so. I mean, the only place where I would say we have really thought a lot about different forms of content is with kids. And I wouldn't say twitchier or any of that stuff, but we do pay attention to what kids are watching because the thing with our kids content, you know this, is it's all based on core curriculum. We're focused principally on kids up to the age of eight. We work with experts that help us understand what are the things that kids need to know before they go into pre-K for the first time or any kind of formal pre-K because sometimes, you know, look, I go to communities where kids are like five before they actually enter a real school or as young as three. But, you know, there's skills that kids need to learn. There's social emotional skills. That's what Fred Rogers knew, how to deal with emotions and all that stuff.”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, it's just because the stories are so powerful. It's all personal stories. Is there a starting in there? Oh, yeah. We need to go. Big time. We need some Dolly. We need some Dolly. So that's great. So, but you're not necessarily thinking is change doesn't have to be twitchy or it doesn't have to be slower or faster. No, I don't think.”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And you should because it is, you know, he always says this is the best thing I've ever done, but it might be. I mean, it's just because the stories are so powerful. It's a personal stories in there. Oh, yeah. Big time. We need some Dolly. We need some Dolly. So that's great.”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'll say two words, Ken Burns. So people always clutch a little bit when you have the next big Ken Burns. And we have 16 hours of country music coming up this fall. So excited. It's going to be fantastic. Do you know how much I love it?”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But is there any length thing that's happened? You were talking about shorter films, but that's just because you want to show off your films. Do you have to change things? One of the things I was talking about when Mike went belly up. I was like, millennials don't need different content. They don't need snackable content. They don't need, they might like some content that's snackable, but it's such a terrible word. It's my least favorite word about all.”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's beautiful, right? No, we're going to be watching for Mars. I'm definitely going to be my show. Some British. And they're going to be an outfit. And people will love it. Yeah. You know, the other thing about content that we've spent a lot of time thinking about is the fact that we are local. And so this past fall, we did a project called Great American Read. The whole idea was to try to identify, really was to get people excited about reading and to talk about books, books that are meaningful to you. It didn't really matter what book was picked. It was just an organizing principle to get people excited. And the thing is our local stations could do stuff around it. You had book groups and all this other kind of stuff. And it was a simple idea, but I think more things that we can do that really leverage the fact that we actually have local media organizations that actually can bring people together. And I think that's an interesting way to think about how do you develop contact around it. And we have two projects that we're thinking about for the future that would fit into that.”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“May or may not connect Of course, they're online. Short film festivals online. It's a great I never will. And so Called no passports required That British drama thing just always works. That's beautiful, right? Do you think there's any era it's not going to work? And we're going to be like on Mars when you're watching.”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“In partnerships and in full disclosure, we have a partnership with Vox with a film we've done with Marcus Samuelson called No Passports Required. And so I think that part of what we're looking at is building partnerships with other organizations, not just the BBC around drama, but other types of media organizations.”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, well, a couple things. One is, look, we've been talking about different platforms. And, you know, the length of programs, you know, I love short film. In short film, you know, just has struggled forever because, you know, it's a broadcast. What do you do? You put a bunch of films together that may or may not connect. And it's just, it's always very unsatisfying. And, you know, we started doing online film festivals online. Of course, they're online. Short film festivals online. And the thing is, you know, I just think it's just, it's a format on yourself. I love short stories. And it is a great, it's beautifully done. It's a great use. But I think beyond that, you know, look, we want to continue to evolve the content that we're doing. And we want to create, one of the things that does make us different than anyone else is Netflix isn't local. Amazon's not local. I don't have $15 billion to spend on content. I never will. We've never been overfunded. Shock to everyone. And so, you know, we've always had to think a little more creatively. We do a lot of stuff.”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And then, last thing in this section, content, how much has it changed the content? Obviously, you're known for down nabby and the masterpiece theater stuff, whatever. Of course, I make jokes about antique roach show, but it's popular.”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Of course, devices and the devices. Yeah, but eventually. But eventually the cost will come down, and I think that perhaps games will drive some of it. I don't know, but I think it's a platform where”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Around art and art Educational ideas. In part of my side life, I'm involved with the National Museum of Natural History. And I think that as a media platform, it's huge. I think for museums it's huge. Because, you know, if you think about things like helping people understand the impact that we're having on the environment to be able to put you immersed into an environment, I think just creates a whole other, it just keeps a whole other experience. expensive though”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, Interviews online. And then really key. No, it was 100%. I think it's everyone's always down in beer. I'm like, no, this is going to be. I've spent a lot of time in the empathy labs at Stanford, all kinds of different things, stuff that Laura Lorraine Jobs did around art and around immigration. It was the most moving. It really is moving. If it's done correctly, you could see it being badly used or used for entertainment purposes in ways that are icky. But it also, oddly enough, I was talking to blanking on her name. She's an actress, but she was going to do Shakespeare in VR and thought it would be great. It was like amazing. And so there was like there were, there's all kinds of cool ideas coming around, educational ideas.”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“More heavily with other platforms, and VR is a place that she created some work out of a Syrian refugee camp. She partnering with Nova has done some great things looking at the disappearance of glaciers. And you can, you know, it's the most empathetic of media. So it's perfect for us because it's purely an immersive experience. And you can be part of something and understand a very different way through VRs. 100%.”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes. Yes. And so the power of the content itself is important. But for a very long time, they have thought about how do you extend the reach of a broadcast event into something that actually is more deeply felt. And so they were very early on in probably more than any of our other producers and putting content online and then putting full interviews online. And then really keeping a resource and look, for a long time now, people go online to look for stuff, but I used to get calls from congressional offices, think tanks, the White House, and everything looking for programs that have been on. So to be able to have that collection and full interview, she's very interested in transparency. So also if you see something and you're not quite sure, you know, the source of anything, you can go online and look. But she's begun to experiment.”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We do. I mean, I think that I'm proud of the news hours, so I don't want any news hour viewers thinking, oh, why didn't she mention the news hour? But the thing is that there are so few people truly in the investigative journalism space. Yes, 100%.”
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“Watch us, watch us. I do watch BBS all the time. Yes, I wouldn't say big, but we are making investments in that. And probably the person in public broadcasting that's doing the most interesting work in that is Rainy Aronson, who's executive producer of Frontline. I think frontline of all the series, people always ask me this question, which they always think is a softball. Like, what's your favorite program on public television? And they don't realize that you pick one and you put everyone else in therapy, right? But the thing that is, but it is the most important.”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think ours does Do I want to go? Yeah, right? I feel like that. I know, right? I just turn on the TV. You turn on the TV set. And it's like, what's there? Yeah, but then I just have cable people screaming at each other and I turn it off. Watch us, watch us. I do watch PBS all the time. So when you're thinking about the content itself, so that's the delivery systems. Obviously, it's going to be mobile. It's going to be streaming. It's probably going to be in lots of different devices and things like that as you move forward. Have you made a big investment in VR and AR or anything like that? Yes.”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There are a lot of people that really do rely on the fact that they can sit down and they go to a brand that they like and not all brands are equal. I'm not sure that. Every brand has the same significance. I think ours does. People know what PBS is, and they'll turn to PBS and they'll see something they like or don't. And then it's going on. But it's easier to do that than to think, okay, what do I feel like watching tonight? Am I in the middle of that series? Do I want to go? Yeah, right? I feel like that. I know, right? I just turn on the TV. Turn on the TV set. I was like, what's there?”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so, you know, we've had these endless conversations for years about this broadcast schedule even matter anymore. And actually it does.”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“streaming more than, and we build our streams for mobile, we build our streams, and mobile has obviously surpassed desktop as a way that over the top is really important. You know, I used to say that people always gravitated towards the biggest screen at their discretion. It's not the case anymore. I mean, you know it. You can sit in your living room or your bedroom with the TV set bolted to the wall, but you're watching on a pad. But the interesting thing about also the space that we're in right now is, you know, so much is on demand. But, you know, I've always believed, and now I'm starting to see articles with other people that believe the same thing I do, is it's almost too much and that people really...”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, you know, we're all watching the trajectory. And they're coming to kids, it probably is going to cross within the next couple months, as a matter of fact.”
2019-04-15 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT