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Peggy Johnson

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first: 2015-09-23
most recent: 2015-09-23
sittings or episodes: 1
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“Right, that at some point in the future is that this autonomous vehicles will not just transport people, but things, and they'll be kind of logistics and transit and extra network of the future. And I think Google clearly wants to be seen as an innovator and to have legging on that.”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think Apple certainly has ambition. They talked about what Jeff said at our conference, right? Cars and Ultimate Mobile product, mobile experience. I think Apple wants to design it perfectly And put it up on stage. And I mean, I don't think they have, it doesn't seem like they're not going to have the ambitions of Google where the car for Google is also a lot of data signals. I don't think that Apple's interested in the data signals, they're probably much more interested in the experience.”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Baking in a lot of autonomous features, and their cars are built to do kind of automatic software updates. So, just like a phone inside so they can kind of with a flip of a switch, they can put on these autonomous driving features. The traditional car companies Honda last week just got permission to test self driving cars in California. Toyota just put in, I think, or it was $50 million and just hired someone to lead up their autonomous driving. Nissan, like a lot of the big manufacturers are...”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Vast But things can change quickly. The big issue is kind of weather, which is interesting. They're testing in California partly because they're here, but also because California gives a very nice road condition. As far as I've heard, the science isn't quite there yet. The cars can't handle a snowstorm”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“When do you imagine these cars get on the road? I know they're driving around. I know they're trying various things and the regulatory issues are vast. The safety issues are vast. There's a lot of things to, but things can change quickly.”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Natural growth. I think so. I mean, they came out last night when they announced this and said it's not an alphabet company, so it's not spinning off as it's still part of Google X, but it could be. And everyone just assumed that it will at one point in Google Auto or Google Car will be. And Google X”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's a long end game. There's some theories about maybe perhaps around real estate, right? They have the company of sidewalk labs. Sorry this summer about fixing city problems and certainly autonomous vehicles are a huge part of the future of cities as at least how Google and Uber and a lot of different companies see that”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And they have, and this is my understanding as John is now brought on to be a business development to lead the business operations. There's a lot of speculation out there about what it may look like sort of an Android for autonomous vehicles. So Google kind of gives car makers here's your operating system, here's your kit.”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I mean, I think thus far they've had Sebastian Thoran was original and then Chris Rampson. They're both incredibly well respected engineers and they're engineers. And they're tech guys, and they're not necessarily they have no kind of background in business. Yeah, I tried to run over.”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Where Google doesn't have necessarily a hardware expertise, or they don't do distribution very well and kind of admit that. So in a sense, Google's had a big lead on this, and now everyone else is catching up. So I think there's a little bit of urgency and fire under their feet to actually do something.”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Sure. So he's a veteran. He's been around the industry since 1990. He spent some time at Ford, and then he was the CEO of Honda, the US. And then he's been the past few years been in this company called TrueCar. It's a digital platform for selling right. And he has a lot of connections to the car dealerships and distribution, something that Google would need, right? I mean, I think what's happening now, there's a lot of chatter in the industry about what Apple's doing, certainly a lot about what Tesla's doing in the car space. Apple has a huge advantage over Google and that they actually have Apple stores and they have distribution kind of built in and they have a better brand name.”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They have the Lexus. Yeah, and you can take over the manual, right? But they also have kind of the Koala car, which is the tiny little clown car. And that one's the version they built doesn't have a steering wheel, doesn't have brakes.”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right, I mean, I think Google's philosophy is more they want a fully autonomous vehicle where you step in, you press a button, it goes from point A to point B without you doing anything. Whereas a lot of the car makers and Tesla included are kind of introducing autonomous features. What's”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Let's talk about what you mean by self-driving car because there are cars that are old cars that are outfitted with self-driving properties where they stick a lot of sensors on them. And then there's these new cars. Explain the new cars and what they are.”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They did. They built, they have 25 of them out there now in California, and they're also out in Texas. And this is kind of another signal that they're getting serious about turning this into a proper business.”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, they've been doing the car for a while. I talked to someone today. Actually, it was like, well, before it was kind of been treated like a toy project. And it was still this kind of in the research lab and this fun thing that Sergei was working on. But this is kind of a signal. And they toy a toy.”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“At a social video now. Absolutely. So it's all these lanes. Some of them are pretty crappy little lanes. I don't know. And it's very unclear where they go and where you put your bets. Right. I guess we have no choice, do we?”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“From a production perspective now when we are making stuff, we say, okay, we're going to run this article and then we should do a video to go along with it. And oh, should we cut a social video? We should probably cut a social video. Have that one be 15 seconds shorter, but then we should have one that's just 15 seconds maybe for Instagram. Then we should have one that's a little bit shorter for Snapchat. And then it does end up getting a little bit labor intensive. And along the way, it can be very easy to let the story itself get muddled”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Probably Facebook. Probably Facebook. And I dumb myself down a little bit. Then Google, then possibly Snapchat, depending on my audience, and then Apple too. I'd have to be everywhere, which is really tiring and exhausting, I think, to do well.”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think I think it's probably a waste of publishers' time, probably, but there is no other choice. I think it's hard to find readers these days. And how do you capture them on mobile platforms and how do you capture their eyeballs and how do you keep them going? I think it's tough. I think the front page is dead, and the idea of the front page, whatever, digital front page or a real one. And so I think it's really going to be a tough to know where this is going to shake out. The web seemed to solve a problem, but, you know, and Google helped that by being the search mechanism, but now it's everywhere.”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Different prices to be on there because that's where all the traffic happened to be at that time. And then, of course, that dried up, but it was not, I have feelings of deja vu. So this was one of the things.”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They can't share when they're trying to share articles. I'm betraying my age, but AOL did this a long time ago, kept publishers. What did they call it? It was just their site. They just published onto their site.”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right, and I think, you know, Google is different so far in what we know about their approach to instant articles. But if you look at Twitter, Facebook, Snapchat, they sort of would have a vested interest in keeping you within their application. Where Google, you know, having mastered search is for many people sort of synonymous with this idea of the web. And people are using Google to search for news all the time anyway. And so I think it's really going to come down to not just who offers the fastest load experience and for publishers, like who gives the best share for advertising dollars. But I think it's also going to come down to how open is this experience. Because nobody wants to feel as though they're trapped in a class when they're trying to share articles.”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Okay, you can say it one more time. That's it. Platishers. Platishers. You know, there's like nine different systems. It's sort of like Betamax and BCR all over again. And the internet used to just be you just publish to a website, which is a really interesting”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Eyeballs are Except it's not, they're different. It's not like the internet where you just put it on the internet, which is one system. This is nine systems. And I think it's really interesting the fragmentation of these platforms, whenever the word you were just using, that you may not repeat again.”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The so no, my answer is no, because granted it does take some time for publishers to strike these content partnerships with companies in a way that is mutually beneficial. And sure, I mean, if you're formatting an article for a different platform in addition to your own, then obviously it takes time. But I think it comes back to what I said earlier, where more and more publishers are recognizing the value of putting their stories and their videos on just the places where eyeballs are, right? You look at YouTube, you look at Facebook, you look at Snapchat. And so if you're going to be doing that anyway, except it's not, they're...”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Or it's the most interesting because we just put up a video with lots of words on it and it worked better than another way to do it. There's tricks and stuff like that when you have to get people's attention as they scroll past you on the news feed. Absolutely.”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think they do. I think they do. I think a lot of people who, most of it is silly, but you know what I mean? Like, you can see the quality of what it is. I mean, I know I'm complaining, but most of the stuff that works is... You know, like a squirrel. There's a squirrel, there's a nut, there might be a cat and stuff like that.”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't know the answer to that, Ben, but I will say Pew put out a report earlier this summer that says four in 10 U.S. adults now get their news on Facebook. So if you look at it as like there's probably some truth anecdotally to people of a certain demographic or age group getting their news on Facebook versus Snapchat. I think they do.”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Now Geo actually has some great content. They have some great stuff, and I do consume that way. My kid is on Snapchat, so I use it. You continually try to Snapchat me, which I wish you would stop. I'm not. I'm never stopping. I'm never giving up. Well, I think what this would.”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I've done that thing where you like take a screen grab in the middle of a buzz feed video and then it tells you like what your spirit animal is and really really substantive stuff like that Nagio actually has some great content. They have some great stuff and I do.”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's absolutely different, Microsoft. And I think I'm hearing from the partners that I talk with that say they're seeing the change, they're noticing the change. One of them the other day, I happened to be at their offices and we had a conference call with Satya, a video call. He was in Redmond and I was on the East Coast and they had this great rapport going back and forth. And when the screen went dark, the gentleman turned to me and said, wow, that's the new Microsoft.”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I was delivering at a job on campus. I was delivering mail. And I happened to deliver one day to the engineering department. And the administrative assistants heard me coming down the hallway because they could tell it was a woman's walk. And when I came around the corner, they said, a woman, are you here to sign up? And I said, no, I'm just here to deliver the mail. And they thought I was coming down to sign up for engineering. And they said, well, Do you know anything about engineering? And I said, Yeah, I don't even know what they do, no one has ever really told me. They sat me down and talked me into changing my major. I changed my major the next day. Wow. So it's these serendipitous moments where your entire life changes. And it shouldn't be serendipitous should be.”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I mean, it's a tough one clearly, but I think just raising the awareness, which has been a big topic obviously over the last several years, but I just, when I look at my own stumbling into engineering, I mean, there weren't the programs like there are now the STEM programs, trying to get young girls by fourth grade to keep them on a math and science course. None of that was happening when I was coming up through grade school and high school. I had great math and science. No one ever said to me, have you ever thought about engineering? So I went off to San Diego State as a business major. Right. Thought that's what I should be doing.”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We'd already had a focus on diversity and inclusion. But we really have upped our game in that space. And I would say probably a week doesn't go by at our senior leadership team where we don't talk about some aspect of it. It is front and center, front and center, and we talk about, you know, better recruiting, better retaining. We talk about our products being more diverse and building the product from the get-go for the largest group of individuals. And we haven't always done that. And so we're definitely, what's the problem?”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The area of collaboration of you. We talk, obviously, we're both kind of in the same space. Our apps are running on Android, which has been good. We've had over now, well, between iOS and Android over 150 million downloads. I do have that phone system. Yeah.”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So we have a good relationship with Apple. We're just on stage with them. Again, I think we looked for areas of collaboration. And we were thrilled to be with them. Was it just last week? Yeah, earlier this week. And so...”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Absolutely. I like your word challenge for fighting. It's nice. I like it. It was challenged. I should do that with my kids. You're challenging me. That's a good word. I want to talk about a couple more things before we go. Apple.”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Everybody has their dreams, absolutely. And so if we can collaborate in some areas and maybe grow that collaboration. So we've had discussions about all sorts of things. I won't go into it here, but it's nice to be able to have them instead of being challenged and not being able to say. I like you.”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I think maybe what was working five years ago as time went on, you know, and with each of us having different ambitions, 10 years is a long time, right? So five years in, I think we just went back and reassessed and said, can we put this into a better spot And so we both sides feel good about where it is now. And it actually, again, just going back to how deeply I feel about relationships, I think if you can look at areas of collaboration, understanding there might be areas of competition, but if you focus on the areas of collaboration,”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“What's different? It did change. We each sell our ads, so we Microsoft now exclusively sell Bing ads. They sell Gemini ads. And they send now the commitment is at a minimum 51% of their traffic our way. But that's, you know, it could be anything in that range in between. But basically what it did is it gave really both of us a little more flexibility in areas that were at times a little uncomfortable.”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know, the relationship was challenged when I came in. And basically, you know, my team and I sat back and said, okay, it's probably better to write this than to let it, you know, fly off the reservation. We sat down with their team and we just work through things and we renewed our agreement with them. Write a chip.”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Relationship. I actually, so you know, I don't have any. Oh, yeah. Okay, you just got here. You just got here. Microsoft. But I actually very much enjoyed working with Yahoo, with Marissa and her team.”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, because I think we again people were doing both actions separate. They were saying, oh, I'm late for my meeting. I need to get an Uber. And so to put them together and to make their life more productive by not having them have to jump in and out of an app. Seem like the right thing to do”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Which is sort of a natural thing anyway, right? You're doing that anyway, you're looking at when your next meeting is. Do I have to get my Uber? But we've also partnered with him on some mapping assets that we have. It was some imagery acquisition.”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Because he stood up to regulation, he stood up to, I think, sort of a traditional way. We've always done it this way. And he says, well, we're going to do it this way now. And I like that. We've partnered with him in a couple ways. are integrating with him right now on office so it'll be great as part of your calendar if you've got a meeting coming up we can pop up a notice that says hey you're going to be late if you don't maybe book your uber right now and so we've”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Think it's all an equation, just being my engineering background, it's all an equation. If we can buy this now faster than we can build it, it's going to bring in, and we look at everything it brings in, right? That's conceit, isn't it?”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, basically, the economist from Yale said, yeah, I think there is. And when he says it, a lot of people went. But, you know, it's been rumored for a while and the valuations are paying prices. What do you do?”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Bit, a bit. And I think that You know, if that extends, it'll be limiting. Obviously, because I mean to not look at, say, what's going on in India or Israel, rather parts of all across China, is Look at WeChat. What's going on there? I mean, that's.”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I've actually in the last year, just as I've gone in as a Microsoft person. Now I feel like there's more of curiosity about Seattle, more curiosity about other innovation innovative areas around the world. And I think that's a good trend. I mean, it's not...”
2015-09-23 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Microsoft EVP Peggy Johnson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT