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  1. It's on September 7th. It's this event where there are going to be more people from MSNBC showing up than I thought worked at MSNBC. All of us are going to be there. We'll be bringing our own sort of special flavor. You know, I do the Velshe Band Book Club where I interview an author of a band book every week. So I'll be doing that. So for those of us who like to watch us and want to get to know us a little bit, come on out.

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. And that's the worst part. The thing you just said about the number of kids who haven't been in school, Benjamin Netanyahu said in his speech to Congress and to the Senate, we want Palestinians to grow up, you know, understanding we should live in peace. Fantastic. That should be applauded. How does that happen? Means people actually have educations. They're in schools. There is nothing worse for creating your enemy than people being unhoused, being in a refugee status, being hungry. You're not getting close to your cause. I think we can share in Benjamin Netanyahu's cause that the people in that region should respect each other's self-determination. We're not going in the right direction on that one right now. God.

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  3. Who will probably say, Hey, we really like you. We want you to be the next president of the United States. We want you to make amazing history being the first woman, the first black woman, the first South Asian woman, but we do need something else. Just like the union leaders go to these candidates and say, we need something in exchange. They might go and say, we need you to take a different approach to this thing. And frankly, we're 40,000 deaths in. It's time for a different approach.

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  4. In Michigan and Wisconsin, and some down ballot races across the country that will depend on us having a more nuanced approach to the Middle East. And like you said, she's got an opportunity for a reset. She's got an opportunity for a new set of first impressions. And she's got a lot of backing from a lot of young progressive sorts who would not normally be Kamala Harris supporters, but are at this point.

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  5. Think there's an opportunity for some space here. I think she's got permission to do that for a couple reasons. One is Joe Biden, who is a remarkably empathetic person generally was not able to nail the empathy around Palestinians for whatever reason. It was a tough thing, and he got off on the wrong foot with this. Kamal Harris, I don't know how distinct her policy is. She was always quicker to be critical of things that the Israelis were perceived to not be doing correctly than Biden was. But she did seem to be more empathetic. But the bottom line is Biden is aware that his efforts to influence the Israelis has not worked. So now he, I think that gives her permission to say, why don't you try it your way? Why don't we play good cock, bad cop? I'll be semi-good cop. That's Joe Biden, and you can be a little bit more bad cop. Maybe. We'll see. I would like to think so because there are, first of all, the election may depend on it. There are a lot of voters in.

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  6. So in order to give him the political cover to talk about Trump in that speech, in the United States House of Representatives, he had to do some stuff for Biden. He said some nice things about Biden ahead of that. And I was wondering, is he going to get to the Trump part? And he did, of course. He gave Trump a lot of credit for the Abraham Accords, which they're not really a thing. They're trade deals.

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  7. That's where, and I, you know, I've heard that President Obama advised Joe Biden, don't get into bed with this guy because it never works. It never works. It'll never pay off. There'll never be anything that comes of getting to bed with Netanyahu. And that's what happens. I mean, Joe Biden, by all accounts, did the right thing by Benjamin Netanyahu after October 7th and Benjamin Netanyahu is, for all intents and purposes, going to stump for Donald Trump.

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  8. Is that falling out worse than JD Vance calling Trump heroin? I mean, they're all transactional, right? Netanyahu and Trump are transactional. They need each other. Netanyahu needs Trump to become the president of the United States so that America continues to fund Israel's weaponry and doesn't attach any strings to it. And Trump needs Netanyahu to help him with American voters. So it's transactional to both of them, and both of them have shown a remarkable ability to overcome personal differences to do that. I would say that Joe Biden gave Netanyahu a remarkable bear hug right after October 7th and showed remarkable support for Israel. And that cost Joe Biden to some degree politically. But he did. He did that.

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  9. First of all, are you supposed to be saying that stuff if you're like, you know, is there a national security issue with describing exactly how you got them? But yeah, yeah.

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  10. Long ago, in the 90s. Let's just be clear about that because for some reason there's this impression in the West that he's been in favor of that.

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  11. Worst thing to happen to Gaza is Hamas. There's no question about that. But you can hold, we're not squirrels. We can hold several thoughts at the same time that everybody there is entitled to safety and prosperity and self-determination, and it's our work to help them get to that. What you heard in that speech today had nothing to do with safety for Palestinians, self-determination, and peace. It was just about an attack on what he called barbarism, which we're supposed to mean anything that he does in Gaza is fine because it's all about fighting barbarism.

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  12. Generals want that deal. Israeli civilians want that deal. The Israeli military wants that deal. The hostage families want that deal. There are Palestinians who are desperate for this. There are Palestinians who think Hamas is the worst thing that ever happened to them. It brought terror on their homes. There are others who think Hamas got me out of jail in a prisoner swapped for hostages. It's just complicated. And for Netanyahu to say that if you don't agree with this, then you must be that. It's just not correct. You and I can both sit here and say what happened on October 7th was terrible. I've spent time in Gaza. I've been able to say.

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  13. For everybody to get up and clap their hands and to see Democrats clapping their hands for that stuff, there are some things that are always worth clapping your hands for, honoring people, a hostage that Noah Ghamani. Absolutely 100% worth clapping for. But he was giving a political speech for which Democrats were applauding. And I don't understand that.

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  14. Protests every day are led by hostage families. The families of the hostages are the ones who are saying, there's a way to get people out. We've had these deals on the table. It was May when Joe Biden said we've got a deal ready to go. Turned out to be premature. It may never come to pass. I hope it does. But that's exactly right. I think we all thinking people can agree. These hostages should not be there. They need to be released now. There's no question that there needs to be a conversation about what happens afterwards. And it does seem like there's an infrastructure in a deal for having that conversation. Ben and I have this talk all the time. It's not, he's not hopeful that it's all going to work out that we're going to solve this problem suddenly. But we can't throw up our hands and say we're not going to. And that jingoistic bumper sticker speech that Netanyahu gave that was literally a good and evil. You're right. It was very much a war on terror Bush-era speech, good versus evil. It's much more complicated than that. And for him to do that.

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  15. Civilian non combatants are not a fair fight. Israeli civilian non combatants are not a fair fight. That should never have happened. Not one of them should have died in this whole argument. He said at one point, You talked about Donald Trump, the assassination attempt, he said there is no place for violence, for political violence in a democracy. Coming from Yahoo, but

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  16. If you don't agree with what he's doing, you're actually the enemy. But he went beyond that. It's not just the enemy. You're an enemy of Israel. You're an enemy of civilization. He actually painted it as either you're with me or you're an enemy of civilization. It lacked all nuance. If you are the prime minister of Israel in this fraught moment, there is such opportunity for leadership. And he has dodged that opportunity at every chance that he's been given. There are hostage families in America who are protesting saying, why is he here? Why is he even here? I don't understand what this is for. Why is he here? We just need a deal. We just need our people released. That's all we need right now. You can deal with Hamas as you see fit because they can. The Israelis can. Masad can take out. They know who all the Hamas leaders are. They will take out every last one of them. And that's a fair fight.

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  17. It was an egoistic, cheerleading for war, entirely bereft of any regret for civilian-Palestinian deaths. Entirely bereft of any understanding as to you can for valid reason and good reason think that Hamas is the worst thing in the world for the Palestinians and for the world, but no acknowledgement of what do you think they're fighting for? You think there's random folks out there with no reason to be frustrated by years of what Gaza is? You know, maybe we're just disappointed because we expect there to be nuance where there is no nuance. He actually said in his speech that there's no context for stuff. It's like there's always context. That's just a ridiculous thing to say. But the idea that he can go out there and make what sounded like a State of the Union speech in which he just kept introducing guest after guest after guest and get these standing ovations from American elected politicians given that we are party to this war in which lots of civilians are dying.

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  18. It also ends for Hamas leaders, which is why they're also not motivated, because the protagonists to this thing will all cease to exist in some fashion if this war ends. But Benjamin Netanyahu at this point is as much a protagonist and an antagonist. And there was nothing about that in the speech. They were promising some conversation about the day after. There was no day after other than the fact that he said Israel does not want to reoccupy Gaza. There was no actual plan. A disappointing speech, disappointing to...

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  19. War, and Hamas probably should have paid much more attention to that prior to October 7th. Say, can we keep this as a military to military type of thing? But Benjamin Netanyahu has glossed over all of that. He introduced a hostage, a former hostage, which was amazing to see her in freedom because Noah Ghamani's face is somebody we saw on October 7th being taken away. But he didn't mention the fact that there are still hostages in there is because he's not actually trying as hard as he could be to get them out. There are deals on the table that he's not agreeing to because when this ends, he could end.

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  20. Think it's important to remember that speech is to shore Benjamin Netanyahu up domestically in Israel. I think the only person that mattered in an American audience for him is Donald Trump. Benjamin Netanyahu, like Donald Trump, if he does not continue to be the prime minister of Israel, is going to be in a lot of legal hot water. He'll probably be in legal hot water anyway. So this has become existential for him. I think something he said at the beginning of the speech really stood out for me. He said, this is not a clash of civilizations. This is a battle between civilization and barbarism. And this is a, you know, he did a really good job and this is why one can never write Benjamin Netanyahu off of making this seem not like a war in which tens of thousands of civilians, children, women have died and people have lost their homes. It's made it seem like the 39,000, 40,000 people who are dead are all Hamas soldiers. And, you know, he's got an argument. When he talks about Hamas and their soldiers, he's got an argument about why that's a

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  21. Now this becomes strategically obviously in your days in the administration you guys understood that you could see ahead you could see around those corners the corners are here now we're around the corner we know how this is going to unfold if we do not use the necessary influence that we need to getting out of the Iran deal was the most boneheaded thing anybody's ever done because now we have this war blazing in the middle east and and we can't pick up the phone and call Iran and say guys listen this is this is me and you let's let's just stop this right now we don't have that ability we use intermediaries it's bs why do we have to do that we had a deal i don't know that we'll succeed in getting back into it but that would definitely be something for joe biden to put his back into

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  22. Those world leaders respect him. People do respect him. They worry very much about Donald Trump as a president. And I think they will respect Kamala Harris. And I think Kamala Harris has a great opportunity to do a lot of right things on that front. But Joe Biden brought Heft and decades of experience to those issues where he didn't have to read in. He can use that in his final months of his presidency to do some of those things. You know, Cuba was an interesting thing that was unpopular, but people didn't understand the threat of an expansionist Russia at the time. They hadn't realized where, like all of a sudden, Cuba was really, really crucially important in a world.

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  23. Instructions from Trump has tried to stymie this. Israel Gaza is a place that he may be able to use this political moment to say I'm now not beholden to particular interests to move forward and put pressure on all the parties more so than he's been able to in the past. But I do think that Joe Biden's not going to go quietly into the dark. I think he's a potent and important force in the Democratic Party and in the world for democracy. I think there's a big role for him in the next few months.

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  24. Yeah, and the first one we'll see tonight is that not facing the pressure of ever having saying something correctly or misspeaking, I think, I hope helps him because I admire him. I think he will go down as a great president. And I would love to just hear that Joe Biden that so many of us have heard so many times, which is the free speaking free thinking, Joe Biden. I think it will enable him. Ukraine's not been an issue for him because generally speaking, other than a few isolationist weirdos in Congress, it is still generally speaking a bipartisan thing, despite the fact that Mike Johnson

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  25. And I have, you know, the thing about Mayor Secretary Pete is that he does come on my show. He goes on Fox. He will meet all commerce. And so part of our job is to shake him off his message, right? To hold power to account, because sometimes I've interviewed him when times have been tough or he's overseeing a few things that are really bad. He engages all the time. He engages all the time. And I think that's really important in this space that we're in right now. He's a great debater. He's got broad appeal. I think I didn't mention his name because I know he's on a show today. He's definitely an obvious and important contender.

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  26. People who are scared of Democrats or scared of maybe even a black South Asian president. I think Josh Shapiro is a really smart person. Sure, it probably solidifies Pennsylvania, which he won by a lot. On the other hand, not that much distinction between the two of them. They have similar backgrounds, so I don't know what it necessarily gets you, but I think he's very strong. I think the Roy Cooper conversation is very interesting. He's a lot older. He's 67 years old. But this is a guy who not only has won in a state that Democrats in North Carolina, Democrats can afford, you know, they would, it would be really good for them to put into play. He also has done it through appeal to the same things. He has gone all out on abortion. He is really seen as a leader on that. And I maintain that abortion will be the number one issue that drives voters this time around. So that combination intrigues me as well. I think she's got a lot of good choices.

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  27. Think they're, you know, folks are coalescing around a few remarkably good potential choices. The tricky one, of course, is Gretchen Whitmer, because she said she won't do it. But I'm curious to see what goes on there because Michigan is the swing state that is most winnable if all hands are on deck. Gretchen Whitmer and her statewide team have demonstrated that, that they know how to win that state if all hands are on deck. And for the moment, all hands are not on deck in Michigan. So I'm curious about that. I think Mark Kelly is a very interesting choice if you are prepared for the risk of losing a Senate seat. Mark Kelly, as a military man, as an astronaut, as a gun owner, as a person whose wife was shot in the head, a member of Congress. He's eminently qualified and would be appealing to those

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  28. So people need to remember this stuff is real. Like our police should not be shooting unarmed civilians who are not involved in violent activity with rubber bullets. No extra protection because we're journalists. We're not entitled to more protection than every citizen in this country should have. That's some bad stuff. And that was stoked by. I don't know who shot me and I don't know what was on their mind or what they saw in their scope. But we were in a moment, if you'll recall, where Donald Trump himself was stoking this idea of violence journalists and towards civilians who were thought to be unruly. Those are dark moments in our history that we could be headed back toward if we make some bad choices in November.

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  29. Like in my shin bone, which apparently is not a bad place to get hit. But you know, a lot of people got attacked by police that night. And one of them, a photojournalist got hit in her eye. She's now in hospital.

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  30. On this weird diatribe about sharks and batteries, they'll just pretend that he's something else. And so that's another lesson for Kamala Harris. Lean into it. Have some fun.

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  31. Where the K hive is in a funny good way leaning into where Kamala Harris does or says funny things, which she does a fair amount, they just ignore that he did that, right? They won't tell you that.

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  32. I wish I were that guy in Minneapolis who was in the middle of what Donald Trump said had actually happened. He's much better. He's a really good storyteller. And it does compel people because what they don't do is lean into his flaws.

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  33. Donald Trump told a story after I got shot with a rubber bullet in Minneapolis. He told months later he would tell the story at every rally about my getting shot, much more interesting than what actually happened

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  34. A lot of people, a lot of our viewers who say, I don't know why you guys are on about why this is a tight race, this was before Biden stepped out. Biden's going to win. It's going to be a Democratic blowout. And I say to people, I know this is terrible because it's two hours or three hours you'll never ever get back. But you should watch a Trump rally. And God forbid if you're close to one, attended to understand the difference. Understand the spiritual link between the attendee and the guy who would like to be seen as a spiritual guy, as a Christ-like figure. Just try and understand that because it exists in this weird way. So where Joe Biden would flub because his words would fail him or whatever the case was, Donald Trump forgets what he's doing and he just carries on about sharks and batteries and whether it's better to die by electrocution or by shark bite. It's just his coping mechanism, which by the way, I think people like us who are talking all the time also sometimes do. It's like I forgot my trainathon. I'll just tell you about something else. That's what he does. It's nonsensical, but it is fun.

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  35. I think that here's the thing, and again, this is more your territory than mine. I think ultimately that helps because it does fire her up. It does get her to talk about who she actually is, which Americans need to know. People are not intimately connected to people who didn't win the nomination last time around, right? And frankly, in this country, becoming vice president doesn't actually make people know you any better until the time that you run for president. So this is her moment. And the thing that you know that a lot of Americans don't know is this is what campaigns are for. Is actually what you do in a campaign. This is your opportunity to let people find out who you are. And she's got a lot of questions that she now knows needs to be answered and she can answer those.

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  36. And McCurby told them not to do it. Like when Kevin McCarthy is telling you guys this is a bad move for all the reasons you cited, for the things she's actually been elected by voters in the largest state in the country to do numerous times statewide, the position she's actually held as a United States senator, as the vice president of the United States. If that's a DEI higher, then I don't understand what DEI is

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  37. I mean, what have we learned that being critical of your country is a sign of love, being critical of your country is a sign of patriotism. And Kamala Harris should take this opportunity to embrace that, like to bring Democrats, everybody should have a flag in front of their house and flag pins and flag hats and all this kind of stuff. This is nonsensical, not grateful to my country, right? I don't think you should use that about Democrats. I don't think you should use it about Republicans. But this is where a guy like J.D. Vance will go with this stuff. You owe it to us to be grateful. You're ungrateful. If you don't like the fact that there are too many white men controlling the place, you're basically ungrateful. He's not as sophisticated as I think people thought he might be.

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  38. You'd think his life experience and his book and the movie made about his book should be. His arguments are a little weak. The Diet Mountain Dew stuff, the Everything's Racist. He also made a comment the other day, which is very telling, and it's about the point of the whole exercise, why you want JD Vance. He implied

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  39. This is the problem with people who people don't really know all that well, right? They think they know them because they've heard their name, they want an election, but a lot of people have not had a chance to actually listen to JD Vance. He's delivering on exactly what JD Vance actually is. He's a very smart guy. There's no question he's empirically smart. He's got a life experience, a life story that is remarkably compelling. But this is JD Vance. He's an opportunist. He's a grifter. He may have a thinner skin than Donald Trump, which is hard to imagine. This is actually who he is. He's not actually that good. And if Kamal Harris takes an opportunity to pick a vice presidential candidate, most of them that we seem to be thinking about right now are the kind who I would tune into that debate. That's a debate I think is worth having. JD Vance, the vice presidential debate based on the people that Kamala Harris is vetting as a candidate. But that's who he is. He's not nearly as substantial as...

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  40. Presidential candidate in there, too, which is saying something. I mean, there was a time when presidential candidate was a real thing. It wasn't sort of a gumball machine thing like it became in the Republican primary. So yeah, no, she's a real person. If you're at that level of arguing who's qualified for stuff, that might be interesting. If the Republicans were running someone who was actually good at being president the last time around, but people have to remember he lost his attempt to win re-election in 2020.

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  41. Then he went to Home Depot one time and bought a piece of wood. And I don't know what happened after that, but he lost. That was a manufactured attempt to talk about something. I don't know, supply chains or wood or I don't know what it was, but that's manufactured. I think what he doesn't recognize anymore is what non-manufactured looks like, what organic actually looks like. And I will, I am not the person who thinks that Kamala Harris was always going to be the best candidate for this. I will tell you something. There's some kind of groundswell happening that I did not anticipate. I don't know what it's about. I don't know how it came to be, but it's really there. Know if that, how would you would have manufactured that?

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  42. I was going to say, where's the insult there? And compare me to Taylor Swift any day of the week. That's wild that Ben Shapiro would even make that comparison because if he thinks those two should be compared, then Kamala Harris has got some sunny days ahead of her. I don't know what he means by manufactured stuff. I don't really know what that means. I saw Joe Biden step out on Sunday and I wondered what that's going to mean for the party and whether that's going to be a brokered convention and disarray and a whole bunch of people fighting for the job. And within days, this thing just changed. That's not manufactured. That's the opposite of manufactured, actually. There's something organic about what has happened here, which surprises me as somebody like you who watches us all the time. I did not expect to be having this conversation with you today about where we are. You want to call that manufacturer? Do so at your own peril. I will tell you about manufactured. Ben Shapiro used to be an interesting textured character.

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  43. Are we going after undecided voters? Are we going after people who are disaffected by Trump? Or are we going after Democrats who were not going to vote for Biden? Remember, in the last election, 81 million votes for Biden, about 81 million registered voters didn't vote. More people, almost as many people as voted for either the presidential candidates didn't vote. That to me is a screaming opportunity for Kamala Harris.

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  44. Seems Yeah, and one of the things we've seen in initial polling, there have only been a few and they're very hard to, you know, they're not enough to do anything with, but a couple of things. One is the spread between her and Donald Trump is similar to what it was statistically with Biden, but everybody's a little more enthused. So her voter is a little more enthused, and the people who don't like her are going to be a little more enthused. So that Mike increased turnout, which is a good thing for elections. But I think that the trick for her is not just swing voters in swing states, it's disaffected Democrats. She's not, she doesn't live on the center left. And she was not historically seen as that person. She's largely been a moderate. The people we're talking about as potential VP picks right now are largely seen as moderates who will appeal to older white men. So we have to just think about that. What does that mean in terms of energizing BASE is? What's the base? What's the coalition right now?

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  45. Nobody talked about it because they were just all focused on what Joe Biden was doing. So I'm not sure debates get you that far right now. I think she's got an opportunity. But smarter minds than I am are involved in that

    2024-07-25 · Pod Save America · Kamala Harris Starts Hot (feat. Pete Buttigieg) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  46. Who's going to be more provocative than Kamala Harris to Donald Trump? If she's got the attack lines, you could cause him to go on the defensive. I'm not sure it's worth it. I think Kamal Harris, here's another point. I'm not sure Kamala Harris fundraising is worth it. They're not having a fundraising problem. I think Kamala Harris needs to get out there, do those high energy rallies, motivate the base. She has an interesting thing in that she too has been prone to not gaffs, but sort of saying things that are a little bit unusual and she's a bit quirky. And the Cayhive, the internet has decided they're going to take that and lean into it. She's not even getting in trouble for the quirkiness. They're embracing it. She should just get out there and own that stuff. These young energetic people, the digital masses that are behind her, I think that's where she should live. I just don't know that these debates are worth it. That last debate, Donald Trump lied, I don't know, 30, 50 times.

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  47. I will say you know much more about this stuff than I do, but I would argue no. I think debating Donald Trump is a mugs game. I'm not sure it's worth it because he's so performative and he's such a provocateur. And look, Kamala Harris, we haven't seen her debate for a while. She was not top of her class in that. She landed one punch on Joe Biden last time, and it was a good one, but that was it. I'm not sure she should subject herself to it. On the other hand

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  48. Although there was one in Chicago just a few days ago, we may be able to have that discussion in a more nuanced fashion. We are not looking for a world without police and without policing. We just want a world in which we have better policing and that might actually be involved greater funding of police

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  49. Yeah, and the idea of funding police and reforming police, they're not opposites, right? I think most people will agree. One of the reasons why policing isn't where we'd like it to be is because we don't allocate the resources to training and the complexities that exist around policing that we should, right? Defund the police was just some bad branding. That was a naive, silly bumper sticker and it was an attempt from people to have a bumper sticker who unfortunately the real sentence would have been Will not pull you over anymore. You'll get something in the mail. They've just realized they don't want their first interactions with people to be what they are. There's a lot of space, and now that we're a little farther away from George Floyd in that rash of police deaths at the hands of police.

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  50. Effectively because he was playing defense the whole time. Kamala Harris now gets to play offense, and on that front, a prosecutor, the worst kind of person for Donald Trump, not just a prosecutor, a woman who's a prosecutor, a non-white woman who's a prosecutor, that's going to get under his skin. And when you get under his skin, or JD Vance's skin, as you know, because they're both awful thin-skinned, they react in ways that look pretty ugly.

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