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  1. Yeah, no, I agree. I agree. And, you know, getting back to the Nebraska Unicameral, one of the things I mentioned is you've got Filibuster rule that requires 17, you know, you can only take 17 votes to block things. There's 17 Democrats in my legislature. So really to get anything passed, we have to work with the other side to be able to get that passed. When we pass tax relief, we had 41 votes. Not a lot of Democrats voted for that. I would have loved to pass that bill years ago. Getting back to it takes time, but that's the process too when you're going to work through things. It's going to take time. It's not going to move as fast as maybe people want to do it. But I got to tell you, I tell young people all the time, if somebody old like me tries to tell you about the good old days, they're full of it. These are the good old days.

    2022-06-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 492 — Gov. Pete Ricketts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. I feel like we're in the 60s again. We'll get through it. We just got to get to the 80s. 80s were the best music decade ever. We'll get there. And it'll get better. I mean, politics has always been messy. It's oftentimes been divisive. And there are things maybe contributing to it like social media. It's a new tool. We got to learn how to use it better. We will over time.

    2022-06-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 492 — Gov. Pete Ricketts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  3. Prior to the Civil War, we had a center from South Carolina nearly beat the death on the floor of the U.S. Senate, a senator from New Hampshire, right? That doesn't happen today. We had the 60s, a very divisive time.

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  4. Lucky, I mean, we had. Well, okay, David, the people who die at the Capitol, you need to dig into that, right? Because a lot of them had heart attacks on site, right? I mean, I went through the five people went died. Some of these were all, I think they were all health-related issues. The one officer who died, I'm trying to think of what the circumstances around that was. In any case, I get your point. But the point is, but here, like, look.

    2022-06-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 492 — Gov. Pete Ricketts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  5. Call him out to his face. Jefferson lied to him. Said, no, that wasn't me. I'm like, look, politics, they used to publish under pen names to personally attack each other. You know, Alexander Hamilton, Raymond Burt shot, you know, had a dual Hamilton dies because of it. At least nobody's dying right now, right? And we had.

    2022-06-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 492 — Gov. Pete Ricketts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  6. Well, I think one of the things we got to remember is put in perspective, politics in this country have always been messy, right? Winston Churchill. We did have a civil war. We had a civil war. Let's go back to our founders again. There's a great book, Founding Brothers, that talked about how Thomas Jefferson started a whisper campaign against George Washington. George Washington found out.

    2022-06-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 492 — Gov. Pete Ricketts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  7. Yeah, and that's where it gets back to I'm a Federalist, right? I believe the states ought to, again, 10th Amendment, if it wasn't spelled out for the federal government, should go to the states. That means when states manage things, sometimes they'll be managed well and sometimes they'll be managed poorly. And the voters of those states are there to hold officials accountable for how they're running the government. In Illinois' case with what you were describing, that's up to the voters to say then, hey, we're going to demand accountability and put their own solutions in place to address those sort of issues. So that's where I think the states need to manage it. If they need to manage it better, they should manage it better.

    2022-06-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 492 — Gov. Pete Ricketts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  8. For a death penalty that involves years and years and years. And multiple appeals processes and so forth and multiple judges and so forth. So it's a very extensive process to actually get to the point where you're actually carrying it out. So I do believe that in Nebraska we're doing it the right way. And again, it's up to the judge and jury to make that decision. It is something that I think is appropriate for the state to have that authority and 68% of Nebraskans agree with me.

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  9. Is when Pope Francis. But yeah, 2,000 year history of the church, and so relatively recent, right? So I think there's plenty of people with Catholic theologians who have supported this. So from a Catholic standpoint, one of the things we also believe is you need to follow what your conscience says. And for me, you ask me, why do I believe so strongly in this? I believe that this is part of defending public safety and specifically our law enforcement officers who risk their lives to go out there to protect us. And this is one of the ways that we help support them and back them by saying, hey, if you kill a police officer, then one of the things that you're going to be facing is a death penalty. And certainly we want to make sure it's something that is implemented only in the rarest of circumstances and in Nebraska it is. And it's up to you. There's a huge amount of process that goes behind actually carrying out a penalty carrying out this.

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  10. Yeah, so if you look at the Catholic Church, right, you can go back and look almost universally, the church fathers and church doctors, St. Augustine to Robert Bellermain. All believe the state should have the authority to have the death penalty to protect public safety. And so the recent changes in the Catholic Church's philosophy are very recent out of a nearly 2,000 year history.

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  11. So, I mean, it's just like it's got pros and cons like anything else. It only takes 17 votes out of our 49 state senators to block any legislation. So it does take longer to develop that consensus to get to the point where you can get filibuster-proof majority.

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  12. Any system, it's got pros and cons I am told, and I have not worked with other legislatures, I am told we're less partisan than the other state houses. I was asked in our little roundtable earlier, whether it was more efficient. It's not. It's actually less efficient. It takes longer to pass bills. But that's not necessarily a bad thing. I mean, it's a bad thing when it's my good bill that's getting delayed, but it's a good thing when somebody else's bad billets get delayed. I know how that worked.

    2022-06-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 492 — Gov. Pete Ricketts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  13. And now I like to buy party, right? Yeah, we're nonpartisan, right? Yeah. So it's a one house legislature. 49, we call them state senators. And we are the only one of the states. But the island of Guam, I understand, has a unicameral too.

    2022-06-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 492 — Gov. Pete Ricketts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  14. Going to support you. We love you. It's a baby. And we don't punish people for other people's crimes, right? That's not how our system of justice works. And that's still a child. And that child is, you know, God doesn't make mistakes. So that's a beautiful child and we'll support you through this and we'll help bring that child along.

    2022-06-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 492 — Gov. Pete Ricketts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  15. We should do all we can to protect those preborn babies. I also know that there's things like ectopic pregnancies that are never going to be viable, right? Or that, say, for example, a pregnant mom has cancer and she needs chemotherapy. Well, you should still treat the mom. And if the baby dies, that's a tragedy. But you're not trying to kill the baby. You're trying to save the mom. And that's how I want to let approach this and let doctors and moms take that step to figure out what's the best for the mom and manage it that way. But I want to protect those people born babies. And if Roe vs. Weight is overturned, I have said that I'll work with my Speaker of the Legislature to see what we can do to do more to protect those pre-born babies.

    2022-06-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 492 — Gov. Pete Ricketts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  16. Well, I think that's an unfair characterization. No, I'm just asking. I don't mean to mischaracterize it anyway. So I do believe that life begins a conception and that, you know, these are pre-born babies.

    2022-06-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 492 — Gov. Pete Ricketts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  17. No, no, no. But I was just commenting on how often Thomas Jefferson thought we might do it. Yes. I share the same faith in the institutions you do, David. But I do think it's also part of our culture and our philosophy of, hey, we defend our rights. I mean, even if it's a philosophical defending of it, we do defend our rights individually. And I think it's an important part of our country and why we defend our rights, how we think about it.

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  18. We were But it is kind of shocking how often Thomas Jefferson thought there would have to be revolutions, right? I mean, the Tree of Liberty need to be watered with the blood paraphrasing, the blood of tyrants and patriots is what he said.

    2022-06-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 492 — Gov. Pete Ricketts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  19. About one other go back to Thomas. Read Thomas Jefferson, you know what he say the I wish Thomas Jefferson would be interested too what we're going on right now

    2022-06-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 492 — Gov. Pete Ricketts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  20. Well, again, it gets back to if you're sending to a responsible 18 year old, it's not a problem. It's the people who are going to abuse it, which is where it gets back to the mental health, which is why we need to go back to the root cause.

    2022-06-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 492 — Gov. Pete Ricketts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  21. Well, I think that's part of the founding and philosophy of our country. And I think that is what sets us apart from other countries. And I think that's why we hold our rights more dear. And it was radical at the time. And it's still not universally accepted around the world. So I do think it's an important part of who we are as Americans to remember that our rights came to us from God and that our Second Amendment right is there to protect that.

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  22. You could go read Thomas Jefferson, though. He was pretty clear. He thought the government's tended toward tyranny. And that's why you think

    2022-06-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 492 — Gov. Pete Ricketts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  23. Well, I also think that it gets back to why did our founders put the Second Amendment into our Constitution? They did it because a radical idea at the time, right, that our rights come to us from God, not the government, there are rights and there are rights to defend. And that's why they put the Second Amendment in there, that we would be able to defend our rights. It's part of who we are as a nation to be able to say, hey, these rights are ours individually, not the government.

    2022-06-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 492 — Gov. Pete Ricketts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  24. But again, if you are a federally licensed firearm dealer at a gun show, you do a background check at that gun show. So again, what you're talking about is private sales between individuals, what you're talking about. Because it's not between, again, if I'm a company at a gunshow and I'm selling a gun, I still got to do a background check

    2022-06-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 492 — Gov. Pete Ricketts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  25. Doesn't infringe on it. If you go to a store to buy a gun, you have to go through that. So what you're talking about is expanding it to. You're my dad, you're going to sell me a gun. How are we going to, how is the government going to interfere with that? Because that's what you're talking about now. It's private sales between individuals, what you're talking about.

    2022-06-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 492 — Gov. Pete Ricketts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  26. Well, first of all, if you're going to be a recreational shooter, that's one of the things that you use it for. If you're going to be going hunting hogs, for example, in Texas, you use a semi-automatic rifle there as well. So, I mean, there are uses that people have for it. And again, this is where I think we need to be focused on what is the root cause and not trying to take away rights from people who are law-abiding citizens, who the vast majority of gun owners do the right thing. Now, does it mean we can't do more around educating gun owners about securing your firearms, make sure they're locked up in a safe and all the good best practices that go along with that? We should do that.

    2022-06-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 492 — Gov. Pete Ricketts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  27. We certainly have. I think when you have a constitutional right, the bar is higher to put those restrictions in place. Doesn't mean there's not more things we can do to take a look at. We have laws, for example, that if you have mental health problems, you're not supposed to be allowed to buy a gun. When you buy a gun, you're supposed to go through a background check, right? You go to a sporting good store and you buy gun. You're supposed to go through. They're required to do a background check on you. So, I mean, that's where, again, I think we need to look at some of the root causes because if you do have somebody that is going to be at risk for this, that's where we need the public and law enforcement and educators and everybody to step in and try to be able to be more preventive so that we can stop the people who are going to be at risk for this without taking away the rights from people who are law-abiding citizens who are going to do the right thing.

    2022-06-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 492 — Gov. Pete Ricketts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  28. Well, I think that, and of course, we do have laws that restrict how you can purchase guns, but it's also our Second Amendment right. It's in the Constitution. And while we have laws protecting our breach rights, the First Amendment, you can't fire in a crowded field. Exactly.

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  29. Again, we have to do the investigation in these, but you look at the parkland, for example. That person had been, the cops have been called 45 times and the FBI twice on that person. So there are, I think there are signs out there when somebody's going to do this. We need to educate the public. And again, those are the...

    2022-06-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 492 — Gov. Pete Ricketts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  30. Well, the guns are a tool just like anything else. They can be used well or poorly. And that's where I give back to, let's get at the root cause. And I think there's an analogy here with sex trafficking. Sex trafficking is something that happens all over this country. And we need to do more from a law enforcement standpoint, but we also need to be doing more from a participation of the public to be involved looking for the signs of it. It's one of the things we do in Nebraska is teach, for example, emergency room docs to look for the types of tattoos or teach the general public that, you know, be looking out, especially at rest stops and gas stations for someone who doesn't have control of their phone or their ID. Those are signs. And then there's 800 numbers we post on all these places as well. Call in and notify the authorities about this. So to combat sex trafficking, we do need to involve involvement of the public to be educated. And I think it's the same thing with regard to how do we be more preventative with regard to finding people who are going to be at risk for doing these kinds of things.

    2022-06-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 492 — Gov. Pete Ricketts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  31. Homicides Anywhere else. But I think we got to get to the root cause, which is if we're talking about mental health care, we need to do more with regard to that. And that's one of the things we've been doing in Nebraska, trying to open up lines of communication between educators, mental health professionals, and law enforcement. We need to be more preventative. One of the things we've done in Nebraska is establish our system of care, which is a, again, we're trying to be more preventive with mental health care, especially targeting children, trying to get to children so that we can keep them in school, not take them in our homes, not do really invasive inpatient type treatment, but get it early on so that they don't have to be pulled out of school and provide, for example, triage lines so that if you can't get to a clinic, we can be able to get some help on a home, on a phone line or a Zoom call with a mental health professional. We're investing in just this last legislative session, we had another $5 million to try and encourage people to go into behavior.

    2022-06-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 492 — Gov. Pete Ricketts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  32. Well, I think that, I mean, first of all, you know, this is obviously a heartbreaking tragedy. I mean, as a father of three kids as well, it is, you just look at those stories and your heart just breaks and our prayers go out to those families. And we do have to do an investigation of both this and what happened in Buffalo as well. I think generally speaking, we need to go to the root cause of this. And even though we don't know in this particular case, because we have to do the investigation, Stanford University has done studies on this that show that these shooters have mental health issues.

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  33. Yeah, absolutely. I think there's things that we as a society have said, there's certain basic things at a certain basic level we want to provide. I think where we get into trouble is when we allow for scope creep where those things just keep getting bigger and bigger and we don't understand we have to make trade-offs when you do that. You can't keep affording every, you can't keep paying for everything.

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  34. So providing that backstop, I think, was something that was important. But I think also thinking about, well, then we've allowed it to expand to do things that was never originally intended to do. And now, as we know, it's financially unstable, right? Depending something's going to have to be done about it at some point in the future that we're going to put more money in or some sort of reforms are going to have to be made.

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  35. But basically, the problem is, we've allowed it to expand where people are trying to make it that that's all they do, and we're trying to do a lot more things with Social Security was never intended to do. And by the way, when we put that system in place, I think there were 23 workers for every one retiree. No, I understood that it's put pressure.

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  36. I think providing a basic backstop in Social Security to be able to help people is not a bad idea. I think the problem is insurance.

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  37. Yeah, absolutely. It's part of how we do think there's role for going to provide assistance to people to help them up. Now, one of the things we've also done is we've established a program called Snap Next Step, where we take our job coaches from the Department of Labor. Offer them to our families on Snaps. Be able to help them get a better job. And we've been able to help a lot of families get that next best job so they're less reliant on SNAP and some got off Snap entirely. That's the way government should work. Say, hey, we know you need help. Let us help you, but let's also help not be dependent on that forever. No, are they required to require?

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  38. Where people apply for food assistance or energy or whatever, but the SNAP program, supplemental traditional assistance program, is one of the ways you can apply. Otherwise known as food stamps. In August of 2014, before I got elected, people were weighing on average twenty three minutes to either phone calls answered. That means some people wait a lot longer. What does that say to our customers about how we feel about them?

    2022-06-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 492 — Gov. Pete Ricketts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  39. Well, one of the things I did run it on was running government more like a business. And I'm kind of getting your question here. Republicans and Democrats will argue over the size and scope of government. If you want to really boil it down, that's kind of what we're asking. What should government do? But there are things we agree it should do. And those things we should do really, really well, right? We should be operationally excellent. We should be really doing a great job of providing services. We should reply the same lessons that businesses use every day to do a great job of providing their services to government, to make government run really well. And so that's one of the things that I campaigned on, and that's one of the things we've done as I've been governor is really improve the level of service we're providing for people. To me, it's about like, obviously as a Republican, I'm more on the side of, hey, we should be looking at what are the government's core functions and not getting in the way of the private sector as they're trying to do things and that sort of thing. And we've done a great job, frankly, of improving level services. I'll just share with you one example. We have an economic assistance line.

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  40. You get to do fun stuff. Now, I got to say winning the World Series is pretty darn fun. But, you know, Tom was the one who really was the architecture of that. Obviously, we were on the board. At some point, I did get off the board. I can't remember exactly when. But Tom was in the architecture for that. He did a fantastic job. And as governor, you get to have the same kind of impact. You can make changes that actually result in real world changes.

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  41. All the action at the end. Yeah, the day job. But it was good. I got all the end, right? You know, for me, being governor was more impactful because as governors are a great job.

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  42. Tom did a great job. It's a classic example of leadership, right? He set out from the first day saying what the goals were, right? That we were going to bring a championship to Chicago, that we were going to be good neighbors, and that we're going to fix up Wrigley Field. And that's what he set out to do. And that's what he's accomplished tremendously successful in all those accounts.

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  43. Well, not quite because we did form a board that consisted of a siblings. So he reported to his siblings. And while he had his own successful business company where he was the head honcho and CEO, I don't think that board was as tough on him as his siblings were as tough on him. So there's, right? Like the people who've known you all your life, they may not think you're all that.

    2022-06-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 492 — Gov. Pete Ricketts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  44. Well, so Tom actually brought this idea to me in the fall or summer of 2006 while I was running for Senate. And I said, actually, I said, I love the idea, but I have no time to help you, right? I'm busy all focused on this. And so Tom didn't really want my help anyway. So he's like, fine with that part. I think he wants.

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  45. Yeah, absolutely. Brooke and Laura are great parents. But again, it's about, it's a difference between what you want at an individual level and what kind of policy you're trying to make at a state level. Now, obviously, the Supreme Court made it a moot point, but that's where I was coming from on the policy side of it is what do we think is going to give kids the best chance?

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  46. Licenses issues of licenses, but typically because somebody, either a judge or a religious institution, says, yeah, these two people got married. But where does the state really have involvement in marriage? Well, two things really, property, dividing property, right through divorce or death or whatever, and which again, to me, that's not a big issue. We can handle it through contracts or whatever. And I don't get too twisted up about that. But then it's also what happens to children. And I believe that the best opportunity if we've got a child is to put them into a home, and this is on a grand scale on average, not to say there can't be parents who are good about this, but I think the best opportunity is to find a home where you got a man and a woman. Now, other people are going to disagree with that, but that's kind of.

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  47. And I love her kids. They're awesome kids. When you think about, but this is where I think in a lot of folks have trouble distinguishing between the things that you think are personal versus what are the public policy implications of what we're doing. And when I think about, when we're thinking about like, what is going to be the best arrangement? So what does the state have of involvement on this? Because historically, a state has not gotten involved in marriage, right? Historically, it's been a religious institution thing. But where the state has, well, the state is...

    2022-06-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 492 — Gov. Pete Ricketts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  48. Several conversations about this, right? So, I mean, this was a tough conversations. And I love her wife, Brooke. She's awesome

    2022-06-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 492 — Gov. Pete Ricketts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  49. My friends were still my friends, and the world didn't end. It was okay. Here's the thing. If you don't take risks, you will.

    2022-06-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 492 — Gov. Pete Ricketts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  50. Well, I'd say a couple things. And I think, well, first of all, my daughter Margot, who was seven at the time, came up to me and said, Daddy, I know you're very sad that you lost the election, but we're glad to have you home. How are you going to feel bad about that? And the only thing I learned is that, you know, the son came up the next morning. My wife was still my wife. My kids were still my kids.

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