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  1. “Yeah, I would say that, first and foremost, I'm inclined to agree with you, you know, which is people want good stories. You know, there will be some, if you were to look at the evolutionary movies over the last 50 years, there's certainly been changes in the vocabulary of storytelling, but the movies that are super successful have great stories, great characters you care deeply better, you're moved, you're excited, you laugh, whatever those things are. They may be slightly faster cut. There's clearly different music in the background. way higher quality special effects etc so there are certainly different storytelling vocabulary inside of them but fundamentally you know human beings are human beings they want to they want to be entertained they want to be moved they want to laugh they want to be excited etc so i don't think that'll change um i do think i guess i can say this because i did step away from one of those jobs when i was getting tool you know the the”

    2026-06-15 · On with Kara Swisher · Peter Chernin on ‘Backrooms,’ Sequel Fatigue, and Hollywood Mergers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  2. “And that, you know, people don't make comedies right now. There are so few comedies being made, both on movies and on television. I don't get that at all. It's not as if all of a sudden human beings woke up and said, I don't want to laugh anymore. They become self-fulfilling prophecies, which is people get nervous. They stop making them. And then all of a sudden everybody says, well, they don't work. Just point to a comedy that works right now.”

    2026-06-15 · On with Kara Swisher · Peter Chernin on ‘Backrooms,’ Sequel Fatigue, and Hollywood Mergers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  3. “So that I wouldn't say that this is all of a sudden. I think your point is correct, which they feel original. You know, they are, these particular movies have very young stars, young, well, not Backrooms doesn't have young stars, but is a young director. But Obsession queerly has young stars, or they feel original. Look, I think it's a mistake Human beings are desperate to be entertained. The major forms of entertainment have been around for centuries because they are appealing, horror, comedy, tragedy.”

    2026-06-15 · On with Kara Swisher · Peter Chernin on ‘Backrooms,’ Sequel Fatigue, and Hollywood Mergers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  4. “Yeah, you know, it's interesting if you're inside Hollywood a year and a half ago. People were really worried about horror. Horror got through a really bad year sort of a year and a half ago or so”

    2026-06-15 · On with Kara Swisher · Peter Chernin on ‘Backrooms,’ Sequel Fatigue, and Hollywood Mergers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  5. “With back rooms, is that this feels there's a sense of ownership of young people. This is our IP, this is our content, this is something that we built into success on YouTube that was made for us, was made by people our own age, et cetera. And you compare it to, look, I don't mean to say anything, you compare it to Star Wars, which came out the week before, which is 50-year-old IP, you know.”

    2026-06-15 · On with Kara Swisher · Peter Chernin on ‘Backrooms,’ Sequel Fatigue, and Hollywood Mergers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  6. “Yeah, there's none of that stuff. And so it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. They're not going to come. And I think the second thing that happened is they came to believe that it is fair to say that one of the roles of movie theaters, particularly in a world of ubiquitous television, ubiquitous screens, has been an opportunity to see big effects on a big screen, movies you mentioned. The problem with that is most of those big effects movies have been sequels and franchise movies and most of those original franchises are now 20, 25, 30. In the case of Star Wars, 50 years old. And it's a little bit, in my mind, fallacious to assume that the best product for young people are remakes and sequels to franchises that were originated before they were born. And I think that's one of the things that's really resonated.”

    2026-06-15 · On with Kara Swisher · Peter Chernin on ‘Backrooms,’ Sequel Fatigue, and Hollywood Mergers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  7. “My mind's sillyness to somehow assume that five, eight years ago, young people woke up and said, I want to go home and have family dinner with my parents. That's never going to happen. I think what happened, which made people think this, is, you know, Hollywood for decades made a wide range of movies for young people. They made youth comedies. They made horror movies. They made dopey action movies aimed at young people. They made movies with young stars. And I think that what has happened over the last five years is they stopped making most of those things. You see very few comedies. You see very few youth comedies.”

    2026-06-15 · On with Kara Swisher · Peter Chernin on ‘Backrooms,’ Sequel Fatigue, and Hollywood Mergers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  8. “Well, I guess I would say two things. One is clearly, to the degree any of us can remember being young, the only thing you want to do is get out of the house and get away from your parents and get someplace with your friends along with your friends, etc. And so movie theater has always historically been a good place to do that.”

    2026-06-15 · On with Kara Swisher · Peter Chernin on ‘Backrooms,’ Sequel Fatigue, and Hollywood Mergers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  9. “Hollywood does a number of things that are very smart. It's like no other, it's like any other business. They do a lot of smart things. They do a lot of stupid things. You know, the smart people are every single thing is an individual bet, and you better be very discerning about that bet. The less smart people are people who just want to follow whatever has been previously successful and who think that because something was previously successful, the next thing will be and or who are unwilling to take chances on original visions.”

    2026-06-15 · On with Kara Swisher · Peter Chernin on ‘Backrooms,’ Sequel Fatigue, and Hollywood Mergers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  10. “Look, the analog is after a big book has been a hit. Go find me a novelist. You know, it means nothing. It's meaningless. You know, 89, 95, 98% of all novels have no relevance for film. 98% of what's on YouTube. 99%. 99.9% has no relevance. And it's just a simplistic jump on the bandwagon. And somebody else was successful with this. Find me my success. And like anything in life, you need to be discerning. You need to be discriminating. You need to decide which ones are relevant underlying material, which is the relevant talent. Going to be very rare that that happens.”

    2026-06-15 · On with Kara Swisher · Peter Chernin on ‘Backrooms,’ Sequel Fatigue, and Hollywood Mergers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  11. “A producer is an extremely talented director. And I think Osgood was really sensitive about how to stand next to Kane without in any way imprinting his own creative vision on him. Just as there is support, there is someone who could help. You know, he was 19 years old at the time he was making this. And I think we were modestly sensitive in understanding how to manage that process.”

    2026-06-15 · On with Kara Swisher · Peter Chernin on ‘Backrooms,’ Sequel Fatigue, and Hollywood Mergers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  12. “Particular person Yes, and I think clearly our view was we were not betting on trendiness. Look, I said very clearly you're betting on a piece of IP, but you were also betting on the ability to convert that into a different medium. And a storyteller, a talented individual is capable of doing that. And I think in some ways, in my opinion, our most significant contribution to this film, because this is not a case of we carried, this guy is extraordinarily talented. And I believe has unmatched future ahead of him. What I think we did, which I'm very proud of, is figured out ways to support him without in any way compromising usurping his vision. So, you know, we originally got him a very talented producer and production company, Chris Ferguson. And I think Chris was meaningful. And then we brought on Osgood Perkins as a...”

    2026-06-15 · On with Kara Swisher · Peter Chernin on ‘Backrooms,’ Sequel Fatigue, and Hollywood Mergers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  13. “Every single meeting in Hollywood over the last 10 days has been find me my YouTuber. That's not the smartest thing on Earth. It's no different than saying, find me a sequel to something else. You know, it's worth noting we spent three years on this project. You know, we spent a period of time chasing and we spent a long time working on the script. We spent another year on production. And it's not just saying bet on a YouTube or it's not just saying bet on some, it's betting on a very specific piece of content and betting on a very specific piece of talent.”

    2026-06-15 · On with Kara Swisher · Peter Chernin on ‘Backrooms,’ Sequel Fatigue, and Hollywood Mergers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  14. “Extremely impressive, extremely, extremely impressive. And he, you know, he did all those early, he started doing those early YouTube backrooms videos when he was 15. And we optioned it and made a deal with him. I think when he was 17 or 18. But I think the other thing which Bear is saying is.”

    2026-06-15 · On with Kara Swisher · Peter Chernin on ‘Backrooms,’ Sequel Fatigue, and Hollywood Mergers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  15. “Impressive, and he did it as originally did this a 15 year old, is he took, originally Backrooms was a meme on 4chan. It was one photograph of, I believe, a furniture warehouse being deconstructed. And that was posted on Fortran. That became something people talked about. When he was 15 years old, Kane had a vision of turning that into a science fiction storytelling mode. And I found that to be really impressive because I think that he took something which was just a meme and a meme in some ways for alienation, for alternate universes, and turn that into a storytelling exercise. And I thought the ways he did that was...”

    2026-06-15 · On with Kara Swisher · Peter Chernin on ‘Backrooms,’ Sequel Fatigue, and Hollywood Mergers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  16. “Would say it's certainly good guessing, like anything else in life. Know, I guess you look at these things in two ways one is just look at the size of the audience and the engagement of the audience, which was quite extraordinary. But I felt from the very beginning that there was what Kane did that in my mind was”

    2026-06-15 · On with Kara Swisher · Peter Chernin on ‘Backrooms,’ Sequel Fatigue, and Hollywood Mergers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  17. “Yeah, I would say, so first of all, in terms of our early investments, we were never particularly focused on the leap from YouTube to the big screen. What I have felt is that over time YouTube and to some degree TikTok would As the incubator for a next generation of talent, similar in some ways to the way Roger Corman did 40 years ago, to the way MTV music videos did 25 years ago. You know, you have a bunch of very smart, talented young people making stuff. Like any other thing in life, half of it'll be garbage, half will be interesting, and 2% of it will be extraordinary. And I've consistently been interested in what that 2% is going to look like.”

    2026-06-15 · On with Kara Swisher · Peter Chernin on ‘Backrooms,’ Sequel Fatigue, and Hollywood Mergers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  18. “You know, I was attracted to the idea of a really young filmmaker. I was attracted to the idea of a piece of very organic YouTube content. And it just seemed cool to me.”

    2026-06-15 · On with Kara Swisher · Peter Chernin on ‘Backrooms,’ Sequel Fatigue, and Hollywood Mergers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  19. “So Chernin Entertainment is a 15 year old film and television production company ranging from Planet of the Apes to New Girl to Ford versus Ferrari, et cetera. But it's interesting when I did Planet of the Apes, people came to me immediately. It was the first movie we ever produced and said you should brand the company. You should become the next action producer. You should run the next big. And I said, yeah, that's a good idea, but I don't want to. I want to make a wide range of movies. You know, the next movie we made was a little searchlight movie called The Drop. We did a family comedy. We did some animated movies. And I've always been interested in doing a wide range of content. And Chernon Entertainment, which I guess at this point is produced, I don't know, 35 movies, has done a wide range of things. Backrooms is, by the way, is just a continuation of a wide range of interests.”

    2026-06-15 · On with Kara Swisher · Peter Chernin on ‘Backrooms,’ Sequel Fatigue, and Hollywood Mergers · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT