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Peter Roskam

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first: 2019-04-01
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“The DNA of our two parties is completely different. The DNA of the Republican Party is suspicious of power, entrepreneurial, or not joiners and all of that. The DNA of Democrats is very collective. I mean, you know, it will.”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So she did. I commend Speaker Pelosi for that. I commend her for making sure she stood up as a co-equal branch when it came time to State of the Union and so forth. I criticize her on blinking on Representative Omar and this problem in terms of anti-Semitism and the equivocation and so forth. So she's handled a couple things well. Only one vis-a-vis her base, but she blinked and she got.”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It is a problem. And I acknowledge it. Full pause. I acknowledge it. I'm not dismissing it. It is now manifesting in some ways on the left, with very few group of people who are now defining what the left is the freshmen that have come in. And they're not playing sort of the traditional game either. So you and I don't celebrate.”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Year where it was basically, I'll see your three quarters of a million and I'll raise you a million five. And some of the Democrats on Capitol Hill was like, we're, and this is me saying this. We can't let Donald Trump have a win on immigration. That would be.”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There you go. You know, he's a controversial figure who in some ways creates opposition just by him being for something. And so I ran into this on the ways and means committee where I went to some of the Democrats on the committee and said, can we work together with you on tax reform? Because a bipartisan deal would have been better based on this whole argument that I'm making for the past couple of minutes. And they said, Peter, look, if Donald Trump is for this bill, I've got to be against it. That's my politics. So we're in this sort of environment that is Trump presidency that I would argue makes it particularly challenging. But be that as it may, look at the deal that he was, you know, that he put on the table in terms of the DACA students several months ago or last year.”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think they can be resolved. I mean, look, we've talked about Donald Trump a little bit in that, you know, he's a controversial figure. He would insist that.”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Look, some of the smartest voices out there, one of the smartest voices is Mario Diaz Balard from Florida, one of the guys who has been in the trenches on this issue. He has put together over the years various interlocking pieces of legislation. So for example, there's secure border funding that then triggers and moves into guest worker that triggers, then moves into H1B. So it takes care, it moves through in a non-shocking, overwhelming way, and it moves through and it has that level of accountability that you've raised as an issue. And I think that that's ultimately going to be our remedy. Do you think?”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, it's exactly what I'm not talking about. So if the comprehensive approach was so great, it would have worked because we've basically been having some version of discussion for the past 30 years.”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And they want a guest worker. They want, I mean, they do want it all. And they do want the people who are here with no documentation to be normalized in some way. And I said to them, You got to break this down and start with a secure border, not a wall. The wall wasn't even a thing then, but secure the border and then what happens? The drama drops out of the discussion, just precipitously it drops. And I've seen this in the polling. I've seen it in the focus groups that people can actually hear the next part of a conversation if they're convinced that the border is secure. Then take the next step. and then say, all right, let's go to high-skilled visas. The drama drops even further. Go to guest worker, the drama drops even further, and then say, all right, what do you want to do with 12 million people?”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No. That's not helpful. Look, I've come to the opinion that if you break this down, you can actually get to a good result. And here's. I have an independent recollection of being on a conference call with a bunch of Chicago business leaders. I'm on my cell phone. I'm driving out of O'Hare Airport and this is I'm in the leadership team with John Boehner and these guys are very unhappy with me that we're not getting the big immigration bill done. Peter, you've got to help Boehner get stuff done.”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's right Of energy. And you got other countries, you got Japan that's basically in a demographic death spiral. I mean, death spiral. That's a very strong. But a couple generations, they have nothing but trouble ahead of them. And we don't have to live like that. We can figure out we've got the advantage of this big. So what about this?”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We do, in some cases. And the Congressional Budget Office, for example, when they were doing a discussion of the big immigration package, part of what they did was they said, if you go the route, if you update as the big comprehensive immigration reform program, they made a dynamic argument within that saying this is the amount of activity that comes from these immigrants being normalized.”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, dynamic scoring presumes a change in activity as a result of a change in policy. Static scoring says you can change any policy and there's no change in activity. Now I'm persuaded by dynamic scoring. Your criticism is, hey, you guys sprinkle this stuff out like pixie dust. And I think that if you go, for example, to the tax foundation, who does good work, I mean, they're center-right, but they're doing robust work, they will tell you that all tax cuts don't pay for themselves and that some of them are stimulative. Getting rates down is stimulative and full expensing, the ability of small manufacturers or of manufacturers to write things off and capitalize on them immediately is hugely stimulative. But just a tax cut for the sake of a tax cut doesn't have the same stimulative effect.”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Other area in the country. You know, my attitude is hey, tall Memphis, Tennessee, toll all these places. And we're paying through the nose in terms of Chicago land paying for our highways. But I think that there is an opportunity as it relates to infrastructure. Quickly on dynamic versus static scoring. And now we're well. This is just so wonky. It's ridiculous. But you provoked me and you drew me into this.”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I think that this is the buzzkill of the trade debate. That's where I would put that as a very significant thing. But look, I think there's no question that our infrastructure is waning. And this is an area that should be a bipartisan area. It should be there's a level of consensus. Here's the big challenge. It is very easy for us to come up with, everybody likes to spend the money, but where we come up with the money is an interesting challenge. So you got a couple of choices. You can tax carbon, which is controversial. You can tax gas, which is controversial. You can tax mileage, which is controversial, not just from the ag community, but from the civil libertarians. Or you can toll things. Now, coming from a constituency that has more toll highways in the area that I'm from than nearly any.”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, listen, I understand part of the criticism and I accept part of the criticism and I would defend myself against part of the criticism too. There is an inconsistency that you've pointed out on the Republican side as it relates to the That's a fair point. I think the larger point that I've made is that the taking on of debt in this time was to do to get a tax code that was desperately in need of updating. And the proof is, I mean, it's working and the stimulative nature we have in economy. We were told by any number of economists for a long time that 2% growth was the new normal. We've learned, hey, you changed the regulatory scheme, you changed the tax structure and realign incentives and that get the capital flows coming back in. And you get real growth.”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, right. And so that's the point that you ultimately made. And I think that the. You take on debt, and it's a fair criticism to say we took on debt, which we did, but you take on debt to get something that is increasing in value.”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“An alternative to the affordable care act. It was a strategic mistake. When President Obama was in office, we should have, and we were in the majority in Congress, we should have moved through and created that. And because there's alternatives, the big challenge was there's not a conservative consensus on health care. And rather than driving a consensus, we didn't take advantage of it. If we had, we could have put that on the floor day one for Donald Trump, and I think you would have had a different.”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So I understand completely what you've just said. I think there is a, and hindsight is always 2020, I think there was an opportunity on the first stimulus bill, for example, right out of the gate to load that up as a real infrastructure bill, the classic, the typical understanding of infrastructure, roads, bridges, and so forth. And I am of the view that about 100 Republicans would have voted for that. I think that would have changed the disposition and sort of the trajectory of the president's domestic agenda moving forward. And I think in that case, success would have begat success. Now, as quickly as I point that out, I'm also quick to point out that the Republican mistake, in my view, when I was in Congress, was we never offered”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, there was a little bit of that, and I think some of that is there were people that were looking to me in terms of translation. I think that Those things are difficult to translate. So I had a perspective on Senator Obama with whom I served in the Illinois Senate, but now we're dealing with a different figure. And even though it was not that long in terms of time, a lot had happened in 48 months. And in terms of his disposition and his trajectory and so forth. And one of my criticisms of him as president was that I think he would have been better off to go back to that, back to some of those characteristics. And I didn't see that type of characteristics.”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“President of the United States So that's a big jump from representing Hyde Park to representing the whole country in 48 months. And so did I see that coming?”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh, I was surprised. I mean, this is not to be a criticism of them, but you never think that someone that you're interacting with on a daily basis is going to go on to be president of the United States within a very”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And it turns out that was really the issue and kind of an ease with which he was able to put his finger on what we actually had to deal with.”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Look, he was a good abstract thinker and he was able to get to an issue fairly quickly. As I've told other friends, I knew Barack Obama before he was born in Bethlehem. But look, there would be times when there would be an issue, for example, and everyone was sort of, you know, kind of cutting around the edges. And he'd say, you know what, isn't this really the issue that we're dealing with?”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The legislature is a small place, and you're physically present with one another, so you and I are sitting four feet away from each other in terms of a table today. And there are things, there's a restraining influence that comes as a result of just personal relationship as opposed to 435 members of the U.S. House of Representatives. I served out there for 12 years. There are people who were in Congress that sometimes I would see and I would think, are they a member of or was that the librarian in high school? You know what I mean? They're supposed to be wearing those little pins, you know. Yeah, most of them are wearing the pins. But my point is 59 members in the Illinois Senate, you're physically present for hours and hours. You're operating as a committee of the whole. You're amending bills on the floor. Importantly, your interactions are actual conversations. You're speaking to one another.”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's right. For which they were accused. That's right. So very serious things were going on. And so we were able to come together and come up with some compromise process. He pushed basically the ACLU and the defense bar. He pushed them. I pushed the police and the prosecutors. Together we were able to push everybody into agreeing to some compromises. It overwhelmingly passed the legislature. It was signed into law. And it's good stuff. And so I think that that's those are attributes that I think that we need more of. He didn't change my mind. I didn't change his mind. We weren't looking to change each other's minds, but we were looking to find common ground. Another word that is often disparaged is compromised. So, okay, look at it in the most favorable light and call it common ground.”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right, and here's the thing you know, you look at the judiciary committees in the U.S. Congress, and they're the most partisan committees. The judiciary committee in the Illinois Senate was the least partisan committee because all of us were lawyers and all of our colleagues hated us because we were all lawyers. But what was interesting is then Senator Obama and I were able to work together on some interesting death penalty reforms, for example. And this is a way that you're supposed to approach these things. He was an abolitionist as it relates to the death penalty. I was not an abolitionist, but both of us recognized there were some serious issues with the implementation of the death penalty here and some very annoying.”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Here's the odd comparison between these two very different men both came based on massive personalities. Both of them came to office. The Obama personality phenomenon we had not seen before in 2008. You were right in the middle of that. Only to be succeeded by Trump's personality. Now, very different personalities, but massive personalities brought both of those men into office. Now here's what's interesting. Neither of their personalities can swamp the boat. Neither of those men were able to come in and just dispatch and be dismissive of coequal branches of government. The Obama administration had to wrestle with Congress and the courts. The Trump administration has to wrestle with Congress, and the courts. And therein lies the brilliance of the founders. I mean, they absolutely, even though they may not have been able to anticipate.”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I can eclipse all this sort of stuff. And let me just make one observation. There's this odd comparison between Donald Trump and Barack Obama. And you didn't roll your eyes, but I know you're rolling your eyes in your head.”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In a democracy? Yeah, it is. And there's consequences to that. So nobody says that you get to do this into perpetuity. And nobody says that you're not the subject of discipline or a rough justice by your constituents. And don't I know that having gone through the election that I just went through? But in the great scheme of things, the system works. And so put this into a larger context of the rise of authoritarianism around the world and the restlessness that many constituents feel because they are not feeling heard by the folks that are purported to represent them. And then who comes over the hilltop? The strong man comes over the hilltop and says, hey, I'm going to.”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The effect of releasing a valve in this country, a pressure valve right out. And it is the way in which democracies tend to respond.”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Trenches of that, right? Yeah. So I think that there was my understanding of that time was the restlessness was from the Republican young Turks basically that were saying, hey, you're not even bringing your game here. And they were very critical of their leadership and were willing to come in and essentially flip the game board and say, we're not going to play your old game. And the irony is they were setting up a pattern that has now manifested itself in a lot of different ways. The new group of progressives who shown up are basically saying, we're not playing your game. The Tea Party members who showed up in 2010 were saying we're not playing your game. I would argue that there's a brightness, David, even to that, in that it has this effect.”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Own good. And I think therein lies a big part of the challenge. Jefferson was making a very strong argument there for incremental change. Take a step. Take a step. Take a step. And over a period of time, it creates more progress depending on where you want to go.”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, and look, I think that there's something that happens to people who enter in and are trying to fix things. And that is the process of trying to get something done can change them and shape them. So here's a historic example. Thomas Jefferson writes the Declaration of Independence. We all know in 1776, and he's obviously no stranger to the vision of the revolution, the big picture. What's interesting is 14 years later, so you can imagine 14 years of sort of grinding, grinding, grinding, Jefferson writes a letter to a guy named Charles Clay, who is a pastor. And I'll give you three lines from this letter. And I've checked it out. This is not a manipulation or out of context. Jefferson wrote, the ground of liberty is to be gained by inches. We must be content with what we can get from time to time and eternally press forward for what is yet to get. It takes time to persuade men even to do what is for their own.”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“and people who take this public square so seriously the challenge is how do we realign incentives so that people are incentivized to work together?”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Does create a different dynamic if you're a Republican and you're always looking over your right shoulder, and if you're a Democrat, if you're always looking over your left shoulder, it becomes troublesome. So in the same way that there are two views of the economy, and maybe we'll end up talking about this later, but these two views of the economy, zero-sum game in one sense and growth versus another, those are being litigated right now. Here's where our politics is, though. Our politics are such that it's all zero-sum game right now. So to your point, if you win, I lose in our current politics and we tend to reward sort of this spiking of the football and over characterization, you said something, I think a minute ago, and it was about incentives. And I think part of the challenge for you and I.”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“David and I had dinner before the night before, and we were talking about emerging democracies and work that we had done in Congress on this issue. But at the dinner, I said, David, as important as any subject matter that we're going to be talking about is what you and I are going to model before these students tomorrow and what they're going to see is two people who not just tolerate one another, but enjoy one another and respect one another and can find common ground to work together. And I am of the view that there is much more of that is happening much more frequently than that gets people's attention, number one. And when people hear about it, when the general public hears about it, they are greatly encouraged by it. There's almost a palpable sense of relief when I've been able to give examples of this to go and say, look, at a time when you think that the Ways and Means Committee is just clashing beyond belief, here's an example of...”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Know it's interesting, one of the people that I invited to speak at the seminar here at the IOP was Congressman David Price, Democrat from North Carolina.”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, that's right. So he was a person of great consequence. And I think he is a wonderful example to me of the type of disposition that we need in public life. In other words, people bringing a perspective and an urgency and an authenticity to what they're talking about. But then an ease with which people can interact with him. So at his funeral, many friends across the aisle came to speak at his funeral and to speak about these interpersonal relationships that they had with him.”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He had a turn of a phrase at just a very quick and easy way about him that there was a winsomeness, I think, that And it was a generational blessing to me in that I came to Congress and it's nice to succeed somebody who everybody liked. So when you're trying to get on a particular Oh, he's Henry's guy. Put him on the committee. It's interesting.”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, big personality. And I will say this of Henry. He was the same to his staff as he was to others. There was no, you and I have encountered a lot of people that can put on a public face and yet are very different people to their staff. Henry Ann DeLay, both of these guys were very generous to their staffs and magnanimous toward”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Was an institution by then for sure And an institution fairly quickly on the life issue, and then ultimately he carved out a reputation that was very strong in all things foreign affairs and came to chair the Foreign Affairs Committee and the Judiciary Committee, particularly during the big colorful fit.”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Freshman from Texas, and one, two, three, four in the Longworth building, and his name was Tom DeLay, and I interviewed with him, and he ended up hiring me. And I got a, I joined his staff about nine months into his first term and spent a year there and did typical stuff, legislative correspondent, legislative assistant, and then an opportunity opened up in the office of my predecessor, Henry Hyde.”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was a vote counter at a time when it was getting increasingly difficult to count Republican votes. And that's the whole Tea Party phenomenon had come along. And the game board had flipped in a lot of ways in terms of legislative expectations on the Republican side of things”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, that's right. I told the students this week, I said if you ever hear the phrase in a legislative body, I don't have a problem with that. You're dead. It's over. Keep working it.”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I did and I lost by one vote. Very good experience. I remember a student I went to high school with, I bumped into her on the quad and I said, I need your vote. And she said, I'm just not into that. And I let her walk away. Never, never did I underestimate the power of that. Yeah, you know, I”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“This is very important in my home, just without question. My parents grew up, they both had that personal faith in Christ, and they invited us as children to participate with them in that. And each of us, each of my siblings has made that our own.”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'm sort of a junior varsity episcopalian. I guess that's the best way to describe me. I'm not much of a denominationalist. I believe in the divinity of Jesus and follow him and that manifests itself in a lot of different ways.”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So these were a little episcopal school, All Saints School about 400 kids at the time, kindergarten through 12th grade. I think I was 22 or 23 and my oldest kids were 17, so you can imagine this. But they were bright. A wide range of kids, most of them born and raised on the island, some from the Indian diaspora, some kids from the States whose parents had chucked it and were living on sailboats. And what I came to reflect and appreciate was the interracial warmth there and the familiarity and the ease with which people were interacting, which is very different than coming from Chicago, which has, you know. Pretty clear lines and so forth. Yeah, that's right. Segreg”
2019-04-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 317 - Peter Roskam · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not amazing enough, but one phone call Mrs. Brady from St. Thomas called me up and I got me on the phone and two weeks later I was down teaching and it was really, really quite a fun time and I'm very nostalgic.”
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