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  1. Thank you, Oprah. You know, you've done so much for people who read and who are searchers and seekers, and I value this opportunity to explain this to people.

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  2. Maybe in another level, is there another level to go to? I mean, I have a couple playing 11 from coaching. I have no intention of coaching again. Physically, it's too difficult for me right now. I do think that I'd like to help somebody else win that ring, another of my many guys that are coaching and like this.

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  3. That I'm going to die. Death is waiting us all and that the best thing to do is try and live this life the best we can and that everybody's trying to do their best and sometimes they don't even know it.

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  4. All of Montana. Well, no, it's flathead lake. There's a big lake up there. There's Lake Tahoe. It's a big lake. And it's serene. The summertime place

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  5. Well, I have a. Simple prayer that I use, O thou sustainer of our bodies, hearts, and souls, bless all that we thankfully receive It's a Sufi thing.

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  6. I think I had that feeling as a child watching the Spirit move through A group of worshipp There was something moving in this audience that was real. Steal it, right? It was real.

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  7. The unseen. I don't know. I think the I am that I am is the biggest definition that I have. Simple, you know, knowing I am that I am.

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  8. And that way you can overcome them or win the day or whatever at that time and feel good about the fact that you did without having to get down to hate or destruction. I'm going to destroy this guy. That type of attitude

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  9. I think the compassionate part of it, you know, I always think that Christianity is centered on love. Buddhism centered on compassion. Compassion in love, I have a very common denominator with each other. They're very common, and so it bridges that gap. And compassion is that deep inner feeling. of empathy, sympathy that goes along with seeing someone that, yes, we're on this battlefield or basketball court or whatever it is together. We're trying to better each one or best each other. I'm going to do my best. Even though I really care about you and care about your well-being, but I'm going to try and do it.

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  10. Well, this is something that we all get, find a point of tension that we go into. And it could be, you know, we get it all the time sitting in traffic. Why? Is this guy in my way? I'm in a hurry and, you know, whatever. There's no need to feel like your life's going to be destroyed by this single event that's happening right now. Just relax and breathe through it. And that's trusting in that moment.

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  11. So it was like that with Dennis, and I had watched him before. He's with the Detroit Piscans and Chuck Daly, who I admired as a coach, was an animated coach. And as he got animated, Dennis would become more animated on the floors like his energy source was right there. Feeding into Dennis's energy source. So I thought this guy, he sometimes can go over the edge. I better just sit back and become a quiet. And use that meditation practice while I'm sitting on the bench

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  12. And you understand that in letting it go, you let it... Go through. It's like a cloud passing through the sky. It's like a log floating down the river. It's there in your sight. It comes in your mind and then it passes right through. And it's the same way with a player. He has some aberrant behavior that's going on. And if you sit back and you just allow... It's happening, it's happening. Okay, now he's through, now he's centered again, now we're okay, now we're back on babe. And it was kind of like that.

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  13. One of the manifestos that I have, one of the books that means a lot to me is Zen Mind, Begin Begin Begin Begin Beginner Mind by Shunru, Suzuki, who founded the San Francisco Buddhist center. And he talks about when we try to control our mind, when we try to control our personalities that we're with, it's like trying to control a farm animal, a sheep, a cow in a pasture that's too small for it. And it'll break through the fences. And the same thing will happen in the other situations. You need to have a lot of space to move. You know, when you meditate, if you get obsessed with something, you'll break through your meditative state or your meditative practice and become focused on this unless you just let it go.

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  14. Well, I think the daily practice of meditation, I think the form of meditation fits my style really well. You're beginning your day with a quiet mind and starting your day in peace. It's kind of getting into a peaceful atmosphere.

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  15. I was once invited to a little conclave that Bill Bradley put it together and he opened it and there were seven couples there that were sharing ideas. He opened that by saying, I want you each to tell a story of your biggest... That turned into your greatest asset. It was amazing to listen to all the stories. My story was that story, obviously, sidelined, team playing well in New York, and having to sit out, and the consequence of that led me into greater understanding of being a player, not only that, but a relationship with a coach that probably spawned where I'm at today or my career.

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  16. For sure. And money is there. And we have a salary cap and everybody's trying to reach the maximum salary cap. And there's all these... Very many great pressures on these young men to really serve themselves because they're thinking it's my family, I'm looking after my group, my family, my mom, my dad, and you know, they want to provide. And you have to forget about the family, your contract, where you're going to be next year, the fact that you're not guaranteed, all these things have to be set aside and we have to be in the moment, you have to be now.

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  17. You know, I think those guys would have laid down and let me run on top of them or something when I first got. They were very, very receptive. There were hiccups along the way without a doubt. But as far as being willing learners with an open mind, they're very accommodating for me. And I'm very gracious and glad about that.

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  18. Game from I think they tolerated it, and I think the reason why they tolerated it, and this is one of the things I talk about in the book, is about being authentic and coming from who you are and what you think is important. I mean, you know, Oprah, I tried Tai Chi with the players. They were doing Tai Chi. We tried yoga. We tried a bunch of things that didn't stick. But what did stick was meditation. That was always something that was able to stick with these guys.

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  19. It wasn't totally dark, but I wanted them to get the idea of being able to do things that are just out of the ordinary, like Silence Day. Do you have a day of just silence? There's a lot of chatter and basketball, and rightfully you want players to be talking to each other and communicating with each other. But sometimes the practice that gets too verbose and guys are yelling and having fun with each other and teasing each other. So I tried to take things out of the ordinary and make them something special so they'd understand the difference.

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  20. We introduced it and we introduced it in training camp. And then day of games we started using it. And it ultimately became a process where

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  21. That's right, taught them how to hold their hands, where the shoulders had to be, the whole process of being an upright situation so that you're not slouched and you're not going to fall asleep. And they bought into it.

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  22. So we talked about mindfulness as being as much as we pump iron and we run to build our strength up, we need to build our mental strength up. We need to build our mental strength so we can focus, get one pointed attention, and so that we can be in concert with one another in times of need. When you come off the court, you've had a bad call, things going wrong for you, you sit on the bench, you take a breath, and you reseat yourself, you reset yourself, and you do that through this mindfulness. You just come right back in and collect yourself. So we practiced mindfulness is what you have to do.

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  23. And anything that would be a conflict of their religious beliefs, I didn't want to touch or get them upset about it. Is it interesting?

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  24. In sports, there are a lot of teaching moments where Players are either on the high side or maybe on the low side of what has happened on the court. And as a coach, you can always kind of bring them right back to the middle road. That was kind of what my process was. You're only a success for the moment you do a successful act. So these acts have to be repeated all the time. So your exuberance about one successful act or one successful game or one successful season is only a success at that time. You've got to repeat it or you've got to do the same thing again and again and again

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  25. Success is as hard to accept as Philly or sometimes, you know, because everybody wants a piece of it and they want to know that their effort.

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  26. Well, I had a fortunate relationship with Michael. I didn't buy into that part of his being. I stayed away from it. Never asked Michael for autographs, never had a relationship that had to deal with that, and actually had to ask him to cut back from what he was doing. I don't want you to be the scoring leader. The scoring leaders have not won championships, Michael. But I want to be the scoring leader. And I think I can still do it. I'll cut back on my scoring average. He volunteered to do that. So that was a relationship that we started out with that built.

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  27. We had a statement that we must have repeated so many times to the players. No man is an island. No man goes his way alone. What I put into the lives of others will come back unto its own. And those words sometimes are difficult for the boys to hear. So then I would say, do you understand what I'm saying? No man goes his way alone. We're in this together.

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  28. Well, the gentlemanager at the time, Jerry Krause. No one around here has one. Chicago has never won one. He wanted them to have a symbol of what the ultimate goal. Goal isn't about being the best scorer, being in the all-star team or anything else. The goal is about winning a championship. And to do that, everybody's got to sacrifice, give a little bit more of themselves in the process of bonding together and making this unit a cohesive group.

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  29. And it was a lot of fun. And the fun generated a lot of energy. We had a lot of very young players that all of a sudden started maturing, and Scotty Pippen and Horace Grant. And then suddenly I was given the head coaching job. And my job was to organize this group of players so that they were not just Michael in the Jordan Airs. His associating cast, so it was convincing him that these were really good players that you're with, you could make them better because that's part of what Stardom's all about is making everybody else a little bit better. And he can do it.

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  30. But good fortune. And I saw a team that was searching for an identity. Their identity at the time was the magic of Michael Jordan, who was astounding not only the Chicagoans here, but the rest of the basketball world with his prowess on the court. Everybody wanted clamoring, not just wanting, but clamoring to be part of this superb athlete's life. And I saw this intense drive to be a part of what everybody expected was going to be very exciting.

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  31. When I first came to Chicago Helper, I was assistant coach, and I was just moved into this assistant coaching level perchance by luck.

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  32. Wow, it's such a great community that you have when you play the sport, especially if you get to play it at a high level. There's this corra, the word exactly comes from that there's a spirit among this connected group, a connected group of people. And this spirituality is not about religion, of course, it's about the ability to incorporate other beings in your plans, in your system. And my best nature also elevates their nature. And basketball or sports does this. It does this for us as watchers too, as spectators. We see something that is a remarkable play and we want to see it over and over again because it brings an elevated spirit to us that this was not just an individual action.

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  33. enlightenment that we're seeking and here's a person that showed the doors to enlightenment was a man who they called Buddha and this statue is the symbol of what we're trying to attain

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  34. That's a big part. You know, my brother, who is four years old, is instrumental in my life. He was at college and he had run into some Buddhist teachings. I was taking a variety of religious thought. At the same time, and Buddhism was introduced to me, where there's no specific God. And the fact that there was a religion that was deeply spiritual that didn't have, say, a deity at the center of it. My family, they were very opposed to Buddhism because they felt it was idolatry that they worshipped a statue. Buddha, so I had that impression in my head of Buddhism when I first understood or heard about it. So, all those things I had to deal with as to what is really this all about? Come to terms with the fact that this is about

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  35. Yes, I still held to the idea of man coming to terms with one God. And then I changed my majors when I was my first semester of my sophomore year of college and began philosophy, psychology, and religion. And it opened the doors to the perception of. How many beliefs man has had over the course of his history? And what are things that actually have made sense to people as they've come through this corridor of trying to figure out their position in the cosmos?

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  36. End times, yea, though I speak with tongues but do not have the spirit of love, you know that's really what I think Paul was talking about. That's a great scripture. But yeah, the advent of the earth only being 8,000 years old and all that kind of 6,000 years old and was really something that I had to deal with, and then it opened the door of education for me.

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  37. Deeply upsetting because what you've believed is in your heart of hearts, you know, I was a good student of the Bible. I memorized 175 scriptures going through a catechism. My mother was a teacher of that.

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  38. Yes, going to college, being a biology student, having to study evolution, and getting those concepts that were opposed to my biblical fundamental beliefs.

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  39. Not really. I mean, those things I knew, you know, when I talked to my mother, for example, my mother would come to my bed and say goodnight sometimes and she'd be talking to me. And we get in these conversations like we talk about, you know, why can't we dance? Where can we dance? Well, you can't dance because really it's an awakening of your sexual being and that level of being a young person when you awaken that being sometimes people don't stop and it leads to pregnancy and other things. And so dancing becomes something that we don't condone. Everything blew open in the 60s, you know, in the late 60s. With the advent of birth control pills, all of a sudden chastity was not something that was Held as a mark of esteem Ways and experience was what people sought. And so it was really conflicting for a young person brought up in my age.

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  40. Filling my being and it was a question for me all the time as to, you know, am I pure enough? Am I holy enough? Am I sinless enough to accept this? So there's always this probing about your inner being and during those years.

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  41. Yes, you have this infilling experience. And you have to seek. It's like people pray for quite a period of time. And you really have to search your soul. Do I have anything in the way of mine being completely open to the spirit?

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  42. Sundays we stayed in our suits all day long, saw our Sunday playtime between morning service and evening service was relegated to things that were very quiet and allowed that day to be special. And it was really looked at as like a Sabbath.

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  43. Sundays were a totally different day, but my brother could smuggle in Chubby Checker and some stuff like that when I was young.

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  44. Very much so. Like, I remember some church people called up my mother and said, I saw your daughter she had on a pair of capri pants. My sister was in nursing school.

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  45. Is one of the many that you can name that came out of this. So it was a religion that was founded on a lot of spirit. I sat and listened to a lot of sermons and a lot of church meetings over the 17 years I was at home.

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  46. Let me say this about that before we start. My father's family were Puritans, my mother's family were Mennonites. They were both from families of people that were religious zealots in many ways. When the wave of Pentecostalism came through America in the twenties, they followed that. It was a new spiritual awakening in America. And a church called Assemblies of God Church and a church called the Church of God both became legitimate Protestant movements at that time. And they were believing in the infilling of the Holy Ghost and the Holy Spirit in your life, an actual spiritual experience. So there's a lot of outpouring of the Spirit in the church services that you go to. A lot of our music that we have in our modern day rock and roll came out of Pentecostal backgrounds. Jerry Lee Lewis, a pianist.

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  47. Yeah, I want to give people some confidence in trusting. Their own intuition in leading from the inside out rather than having to follow perhaps say Steve Jobs' leadership rules or whatever to know that you can incorporate what's part of who. You identify with and what you've been brought up with and allow that to come through you because I think authenticity is really what it's all about to be authentic.

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