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  1. “It's great to be here I know you've talked to a lot of really cool people, and it's nice to be here. Spend some time with you.”

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  2. “All right, so Phil, it's the ordinary Phil, P-H-I-L, and then Kogan, which is K-E-O-G-H-A-N. And my website is just my name, Phil Kogan.com.”

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  3. “Love notes. He would love this Muleskin diary because it's the same thing. But he wouldn't have to double transfer because It converts it into”

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  4. “I also use it for meetings. So every time I meet with somebody, I put the date, I put the time, my mother taught shorthand, I wish I'd learned from her, but I write down key elements of the meeting. A lot of times I can remember the pages. So I'll go, that's right. I met with Tim. When was that? Oh, yeah. We met in 16. And then I'll go back into the diary. Again, they're all chronological and I can remember roughly or I'll just look it up in my calendar. That's the easy way. But a lot of times I'll challenge my brain. I'll go, yeah, it was April and then flick through to that part and look at the notes.”

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  5. “Not a diary guy like that as much as it's more just ideas or sketches. I just came up with a new name for something that I'm for a brand that I'm wanting to explore developing. I just wrote down the name. It was a sort of free association and I arrived on this name and I was like, boom, I love this name. And then I went and looked it up and it was available. And so then I did a trademark on it. And then I started sketching with it. So a lot of times it's just fleshing out ideas.”

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  6. “Envelope icon and I can text it, email it, post it, whatever. And it's recorded on when you go back, it's all recorded back on your computer.”

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  7. “Back of the diary, and then every year if there's something that I haven't read or found in that year, like sometimes some really obscure things, I'll transfer those over into the next year. But now Molskin has this crazy pen that has a little camera on it that records everything you write digitally on paper, and then you can email, like you and I could be talking, I'm writing some notes just like your book there. And then I just tap the pen on a little.”

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  8. “Less than $100. Probably. The biggest impact for something less than $100 would be a Molskin diary. Molskan diary. Yeah, I've had, I've got them all lined up from every year since I've had them since 1986. So in there, in a very tactile way, movies, I have like lists in the back, movies, books, and then I write in the back the name of the book and then who recommended the book. And then I make a little note and then I tick them off. And then when I've read the book, I write to the person who recommended the book. And they were like, I recommended that. And I'll be like, yeah, you did. And then I'll tell them where and when.”

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  9. “And I love that I can five o'clock in the morning walk out into my dad's garden with this little microphone, plug it into my phone, and be standing there surrounded by all these birds. And you heard the quality. I just love it”

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  10. “And then beautiful Ingeneau glass and that sort of thing. I think you're crazy to travel without some means of capturing video or audio. I am amazed at what, without mentioning a name, but I'm amazed at what a smartphone can do. It blows my mind. The new phone that I have has two lenses in it, the audio quality is extraordinary. I just shot this project for Smithsonian in 4K. We're actually doing it in UHD. And there's a shot that I needed, and I was sitting somewhere where there's no way I was going to get a camera there in time or in the space where I was. And I pulled out this phone, set it to 4K, and we cut it in as a quick cutaway shot on my phone. I love that.”

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  11. “The cameraman that I've been working with for 25 years, every time I see him, he and I are big repurposers. So we would like, we love finding the best ways to repurpose things, new ways of doing things. And a big part of that is in technology. That said, I'm also old school. I also have had a mole skin diary that I write into that I've had for 30 years. So I'm kind of like, when you see the stuff that I travel with, I have like really old school, you know, paper and pencil. And then all the way through to the latest technology. So this film that we shot, La Ride, we shot was the first documentary ever shot on a Sony F55 4K camera that at that stage it never shot a feature of film. You know, the equivalent of Super 35mm in digital.”

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  12. “Yeah, you know, it's interesting. I get that question from people about what to pack, what to travel. I am crazy about technology. Like, I love technology so much. My first job I mentioned was a film camera assistant. And then watching my grandfather as a gunsmith and then being a camera assistant was great because you had to be so meticulous about looking after the gear. I was being enamored with what's the latest, greatest craze and what can you do with technology? A friend of mine says, isn't it great living in the future? And I totally agree with him. I think it's so important to keep up with the technology and just how you and I are sharing, oh, try this mic. This is great. And then I see your setup. And, you know, you keep learning all the time, right?”

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  13. “Audio on the road. A lot. Recommended to me by the guy who mixed La Ride, our film, really talented guy. He actually also mixed hidden figures. He's a passionate cyclist. And yeah, I just thought, well, if this guy says it's good, it's got to be good.”

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  14. “I mean, yeah, not a good idea. To try to make a movie while you're taking on the biggest physical and mental challenge of your life, not a good recipe for making a, that's just not a good thing to do. That death stage I was telling you about Took us twenty three and a half hours to finish. We had seven stages over 200 miles on those old bikes with no gears. I jacked my hip up for like about 15 months. I had like this crazy pain in my hip. I couldn't get rid of it until I got a standing desk, by the way. That's what fixed it.”

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  15. “And world class riders like these guys were world class, but nobody knew. If you were to say that, like if that was a headline in New Zealand that they made it, people, I mean, I just don't think in New Zealand people understand because cycling is such a complicated sport, I'm not sure if they truly understand the significance of how incredible that achievement is. And he's not in the sporting hall of fame, Harry Watson. I think he should be. If he was an all-black, if he was a rugby player, he would be. So Hubert Oppen, on the other hand, was knighted. Sir Hubert Opperman, he was a politician, he was instrumental in getting rid of the white Australia policy. He was, and there's statues for him in Australia. But in New Zealand, this guy who's from my hometown, there's nothing. And I'm trying now to raise the money to put a permanent fixture in Christchurch over one of the cycleways for us never to forget him. But the film is certainly helping.”

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  16. “Those four riders made it around France only forty two riders out of one hundred sixty eight riders made it. They made it with four against ten.”

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  17. “Went to Gallipoli, went to all these places in Europe to fight alongside Mother England in World War I. ten percent. Imagine that on ships they traveled to the other side of the world to fight. So everybody has lost relatives or has a relative who fought in the war. So the French people remembered the Anzacs, the Australian and New Zealand troops that had only been in France ten years before fighting in the trenches in northern France against the Germans. They remembered that sacrifice. So when the French people realized that this small, untested underdog team were taking on the best riders in the world and that they were going to ride around France, they got out on the streets and they cheered this underdog team. And they not only won over the public, they then won over the French press, and then they won over the other riders. And by the end of the ride, three”

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  18. “This was brutal. Single speed bicycles, marginal brakes, bikes that weighed twice as much as a modern bike does today, 132,000 vertical feet. The death stage, by the time they'd got through eight stages, they went from 168 starting in Paris to 100 after eight stages. By the time they finished the death stage, the ninth stage, the winning time in 1928 was eighteen and a half hours. It was two hundred and something miles and over twenty thousand vertical feet in one day over five major climbs in the Pyrenees that separates Spain and France. 18 and a half hours, the winning time. What was really cool about this story was this is 1928. This is 10 years after World War I. Nothing has or has had more impact on New Zealand than World War I.”

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  19. “See, I had the ride on my hat, and I thought if I just, you know, all I have to do is just change, you know, one, I just have to take out two letters, put an L there, and boom, I've got the same hat.”

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  20. “It's called Ler And I made another film called The Ride, not to be confused with that ride, which was Across America. I need to get more creative with the names, I think. It was the hat”

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  21. “2013 My ride with their ride in nineteen twenty eight match up old photographs, look for old footage and tell this story so that it isn't forgotten. It was like not like it was ever really known in New Zealand, but like that we tell this story.”

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  22. “22 stages where team time trials, but they refuse to give in. Press wrote him off, everybody wrote him off, and they decide they were going to race. And it's not like, you know, you could send out a tweet and say, hey, I'm looking for some riders. They just couldn't get it together. So they're four. At the starting line. And the sad part of it all is that this story has all been lost because they're gone and it started digging around, digging around. And I thought, you know what? The only way to, this story needs to be told because it's like these unforgotten underdogs. Highest attrition rate in Tour de France history in 1928 was brutal.”

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  23. “Low profile. So I looked at it and then I started doing some research and this is with my wife and I'm producer partner. And the more we research, the more we realized the 1928 Tour de France had the first English-speaking team that competed. And it was this one New Zealander and three Australians went six weeks at sea all the way to France with one set of rollers between them on these old heavy steel bikes rocked up there to the start line in Europe and the Europeans were like what the hell are you doing here? Where have you come from you guys? Do you not realize that we're the best riders in the world? The toughest sporting event on Earth, you're going to come here and try to school us. Who are you guys? And they were only four guys that were meant to team up with six other riders to make a team of ten like all the big riders. But the other riders didn't turn up. The sponsors fell through. So now they're over on the other side of the world four against ten and fifteen of the”

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  24. “Seventime New Zealand champion. So I read the book and then I find out that this guy, Harry Watson, used to go over to Australia and ride in these races with the best riders in Australia. And there was only one guy over there who could beat him and they would go back and forth winning races. But he would go over there and take part in these amazing thousand mile races, come back to New Zealand, not say a word to anybody, would never make it into the press. It would make it in the press that he won like a New Zealand championship. But nobody had any real idea that caliber that this guy was riding at. He had records that stood for like 50 years in New Zealand. And I just became so fascinated with the idea that this guy was the epitome of what we talk about when we talk about an understated New Zealander. Like you don't talk about your achievements. You don't show off about your achievements. Like he was the puppy that, well, he never actually grew up to be chopped off. He just went and achieved things and just kept it all real.”

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  25. “You know, I think one of the reasons that this project came about is I feel I'm open to anything happening at any moment. I believe in magic. I believe in not planning too much ahead. Being receptive to what might come tomorrow or who I might meet and being open to the possibilities that come from those meetings and books I read. And so I found this book at an airport. It was a tiny little book with some publisher that I'd never heard of written by some guys that I'd never heard of. And it said the first New Zealander to ride in the Tour de France in 1928, seven-time New Zealand champion Harry Watson from Canterbury, New Zealand. I'm like, hold on a second. I love cycling. I love cycling history. How do I not know who this guy is? I read the book in one sitting, and I know some professional cyclists. I emailed him and said, do you ever heard of this guy Harry Watson? They're like, Harry, who?”

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  26. “Guy who's 60 who wrote the script. We want the 25 year old kid. He's got this great idea. Well, yeah, sometimes that guy who's been writing for ten thousand hours actually might be able to offer you something.”

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  27. “Yeah, and now you can buy it off the shelf. My grandfather never patented it. But that was how his brain worked. And so I think because of that relationship, I have a tremendous amount of respect for older people who have so much to give. And age discrimination to me is one of the biggest crimes that we have where there's such a focus on young and this is the new thing and this is the new way and we need young people. I'm all about that because young is new and different. I'm all about that. But I'm also a firm believer that we are wasting a tremendous amount, a tremendous talent pool of people in this country who could share their wisdom and their life knowledge with young people who maybe have lost their way or where we tap into that resource. And yeah, it's sort of very sad to me. When I hear it and I see it, I see it a lot in my business. Oh, we don't want the...”

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  28. “Could look through his left eye. Close his right eye. I looked through his left eye and then had this outrigger sight that was offset by the distance of his pupil at the other end of the barrel, and he would be able to see and shoot. And sure enough it worked. My grandfather got up in the middle of the night, built it.”

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  29. “And he got me into it at a very young age. And I made the New Zealand under 25 team when I was at 16, I think, with him being my coach. But I spent a lot of hours watching him and target shooting is all about focus and discipline. You have to be so meticulous to be a good shooter, dropping your heart rate, feeling connecting with the rifle and really seeing clearly and making sure you pull the trigger. It's like there's so much involved. There's such a mental sport. Anyway, I spent so much time with him and I learned so much from him. I think because of that, and he invented an outrigger site, his friend went blind in his right eye, and he was on the New Zealand team. He couldn't see out of his right eye, and my grandfather had a dream that if he built an outrigger site, if he moved the site the distance of the pupil between the right eye and the left eye, that this guy, Mars Calligan could do.”

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  30. “Well, a lot of people do have guns. Hunting, and my grandfather was a sharp shooter. Actually, a number of my family members were sharpshooters in the war. But it was quite a big sport in New Zealand target shooting.”

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  31. “Of his middle school, and he was given a scholarship to go away to a college where there were a Catholic college in Christchurch, which was over the mountains, over the Southern Alps in New Zealand. For one reason or another, he wasn't given that opportunity and didn't get to go to that school, go to high school. He became a bike mechanic in his teens and very quickly put himself through becoming becoming an A-grade mechanic. and then worked as a mechanic up until he was about 65 and he was at the same place for many, many years. But my grandfather was unbelievably smart and never got to fully realize his potential academically, but he used it his intellect in other ways, and I spent a lot of hours with him in his workshop where he was a gunsmith. He would fix guns, he would bed guns. He was absolutely meticulous.”

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  32. “I left home pretty much at the age of 13 and went to boarding school and I haven't lived at home since then. And I've been independent for a long time. It forced me to grow up. And then I've been financially responsible for myself since I was 18. So I grew up, I feel like I had to grow up really quickly. And one of the reasons that I've set up so many adventures with my dad is because I missed a lot of time with him between 13 and 18. All those holidays through 13 to 18 in those really influential years, I had a lot of time with a grandparent with my grandfather. My grandfather was born in 1912. He was the ducks. I don't know what you call it in America, but he was the brightest kid in his middle school.”

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  33. “He's really good. And I personally wasn't surprised because I've listened to him for a long, long time. My favorite part of what he does is talking to people. I love conversations. A good story, you could be sitting around a campfire, and if it's a good story, it just works. And I think that's the real measure of somebody who is a good host.”

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  34. “You can see that in the ratings. I love John Stewart's style. I love Colt Bear's style. I was a big David Letterman fan. I love Carson. I'm sort of new to podcasts. So I've been listening to a lot of different podcasts. I was saying to you before, I love the piece you did with Arnold, you know. I like that you're so well researched with your guests and you draw stuff out and hit them with things that they don't necessarily see coming. Because I think preparation with a good host is so crucial. And I'll tell you who else is for a lot of people, it's surprising, and that's Howard Stern. He has a way of getting people to open up.”

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  35. “I just think that takes a real skill because he himself is so talented as a performer, but he has that ability to like step back and say, you're the star on my show, do your thing. He really has a way of having fun and relaxing. And I think he's got so much better at it too. I think when he first started, he was trying to find his way. And now he's sort of hit the sweet spot. What's interesting now is so many people are watching Colbert because he's got a much more of a political message and people are gravitating towards that more than they are the fun stuff.”

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  36. “Showcas And I see that a lot of times where, and it's finding that balance, defining the balance of really connecting with the person, but ultimately letting them be the guest and giving them the last say or the last word, I guess, you want to make them look good. You're focused on that.”

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  37. “I think where they make it about them, I think the best hosts, and again, this is only my opinion, the best hosts are the ones that can facilitate a conversation with the least number of words where you've done your research and then you basically are letting them go. Let them go, and you're there to just keep things moving, and you're there to make them look good. And the better you make them look, the better you are. Where I get turned off with some hosts is where they feel like they have to one-up the person that they're meant to be.”

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  38. “Well, because that's not a good feeling. And I've been in those situations. Where you feel like you're the most experienced in a team. And to be honest with you, I don't really like that. I really love looking across at somebody in a team that I'm on and going, man, they are so experienced and so much better. I've been working with 60 minutes sports and working with the people who produce 60 minutes and being surrounded by those storytellers. You know, you feel like you're 18 again and you're starting back at 60.”

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  39. “Yeah, I mean, the team that I work with, I'm lucky to be a part of a great team. And going back to your point before about working, I've been lucky enough that that's been my experience throughout my career, that I've been surrounded by people who are better than me at doing certain things. And as a team member, you want to try to match the level of their input. You want to be, you want to be known as a valuable team player. My grandfather always said that you could build a stereo system, but the stereo system only sounds as good as the weakest link in the stereo system. Same thing, I guess, with a chain, right? It's the same thing. And so you always want to be somebody who is higher up the chain who is really a strong element in that team, in that framework. But never the biggest chain.”

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  40. “Was a year, and he said, I'm going to give you a shot. And I remember I got shortlisted down to three, then to two, and then the less had this conversation as Movez. And then I just had to get sign up from Jerry Brockhamer and Bertrand Van Munster and Elise Augeneri and Jonathan Lippmann and the network and all the executives who were involved in the show. And they said yes. And then I had a shot.”

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  41. “And then we did a show together on Discovery Channel, and I worked with a cameraman who shot this adventure series. It was called Phil Cogan's Adventure Crazy. I was following my list of things to do before I died, shot all around the world. That cameraman was being considered to shoot amazing race. And they looked at his footage and saw me in his footage and then said, who is that guy? The EIC executive in charge of production on Amazing Race had worked with me on that show. And he said, oh, that's Phil. I just was working with him. And CBS was aware of me because I had been passed over for Survivor. It was between Jeff Bropes and I for that job. And a big concern again was that I was a New Zealander. And then finally, I remember I met with Les Muvez and he said, this is the second time your name has come across my desk in the last, I think.”

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  42. “Sounds really exciting In America, we got that's incredible. So, anyway, so there's a reason for me telling you that just because he was later at CBS, then I had this show that was set up by an Australian by the name of Peter Feynman, who directed Crocodile Dundee, and he was setting up FX Networks, and he took a chance on me to be one of the field people with that show. telling you Tom Bergeron hosted and I did that for four and a half five years so he took”

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  43. “It's a good story. I came to America when I was 23, 24. I thought I wouldn't get arrested because I had a New Zealand accent at the time and I was told nobody wants a New Zealand accent on television and this is the early 90s and they weren't wrong. And then a guy took a chance on me. His name was Jack Sussman, who is now at CBS. And he gave me a shot to host a show on VH1. And that opened the door. And then once I got in, because none of my credentials from before in New Zealand meant anything in America, not like today where you could be a host of dancing with the stars in New Zealand and then use that to leverage getting work here. They didn't understand, oh, what's the show? That's fairly interesting.”

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  44. “To her, it's not possible to do all of those things. Don't know. I mean, maybe she will, you know, could have found a way to do that. I don't know. So I wanted her to feel at that age. Yeah, okay. Go for it. Give it a go. See what happens. You know?”

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  45. “How's that? Like, if I was giving advice and she was about to make the choice that day or she was working out how she was going to do it, you could say, well, that's not really practical because listen, if you want to be a professional tennis player, it's going to take these many hours. If you want to be a photographer, it's going to be this. And if you want to be a wildlife vet, you're going to have to do this, that, and then, but instead, I remember making a deliberate effort to say that's great. How are you going to do this? Like, I wanted to understand what was in her head. She said, well, I was thinking I could work like on some kind of research project, and then I could train, I could work out a way to train, and then I could take photographs while I'm doing my work, and then I could fly to Europe and I could play, you know, in the circuit there. And then that would keep me really fit and focused and everything. And then at night, I'll work on my photographs. And then I'll go back and like she had a vision in her head about how she was. Who am I to say?”

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  46. “First of all, there are two kinds of lists, I think. One is the very personal list that you have that you might want to really keep secret, because I do believe sometimes when you put things out into the universe to other people, it can pick up momentum. And also I believe that sometimes if you put something out there, there are negative energy sometimes with some of the people that might hear something you're trying to do and knock you down because maybe they have their own frustrations or they have their own preconceived ideas about what's possible and they can put a black cloud over what it is you want to do. But I would say to my daughter, first of all, believe anything is possible and give it a go. I remember when she was nine, she said, Dad, I want to be a professional tennis player or a wildlife vet and photographer, professional photographer. Professional photographer, wildlife vet, and professional tennis player. The rational part of my brain is thinking.”

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  47. “And so, what my frustration is a lot of people who are in decision-making positions tend to be the least creative and the least visionary. They're much more about nuts and bolts and analyzing. And we would not have gone to the moon. We would not have done all the crazy things that we've done in this world if people did it based on what we knew at that time. We've done all these extraordinary things because some crazy people said, I'm going to give it a go and we'll see what happens.”

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  48. “Those people are in the cutting edge of they're like the pioneers of where we are at right now, trying new and different things. You know, the famous story of the guy who wrote up the idea for FedEx, you know, they all thought he was crazy, new and different, right? It was like, what do you mean? We're going to have these central packaging locations and you're going to fly everything. Like you're flying everything there and then you fly, but that doesn't make any sense. I think he failed too.”

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  49. “Get up there So I think that comes a lot from the way that we talk about it in our culture. Know because we celebrate success, but I think we should also just celebrate people giving it a go.”

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  50. “Our psyche, like just give it a go. And I meet a lot of people who have way more talent than me at doing a lot of things. And I'm amazed at how reluctant they are sometimes to step up and just, and I'll pat them on the back. I'll go, hey, you got this, dude. I'm prepared to give it a go, and you're better than me. Come on, get up there.”

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